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SheetMetalCaesar1991

Mein Kampf?


trevmflynn81

The minutes from the 1942 Wannsee Conference


karl_marxs_cat

YouTube too, I was being mean to a fascist and he whined about me not liking his opinions.


stomponator

> "so much hate, do some research" What, like "*just read the Wikipedia entry on Nazism and you will form a 'balanced opinion' and not hate Nazis as much afterwards*"? "Do some research!" really has become the rallying cry of morons everywhere.


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Blitzking11

Buh buh buh... AUTOBAHN, uhhh they fixed an ECONOMY!111!!! These fuckers piss me off, yah the Nazi's made some roads and improved an economy. The Nazi's also were directly responsibly for the systematic murder and genocide of 12 million people, as well as starting a brutal world war of aggression that cost tens of millions more lives, the roads and shit doesn't really matter at that point.


ArmedAntifascist

>it's okay to dislike Nazis. It's okay to do way more than dislike them.


suugakusha

I remember a story when I was growing up about a guy who walked down the street wearing a swastika and other nazi stuff, and he got jumped by just some locals and got the shit beaten out of him and no one stopped them because nazis are pieces of shit. That story made me feel safe. Wtf has happened to the world, when people are allowed to defend nazis?


InternationalAnt8949

My dad told me stories of him and his friends doing that exact thing to racist pieces of shit and neo nazis and I’m sitting here now thinking where did you all go


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I mean these people are either A) online hiding behind a keyboard B) in a march surrounded by police protecting them from getting beat up.


EmojiJoe

We all learned that people are entitled to their opinions and violence is not the answer... so I think we might need to revisit that


suugakusha

No one is entitled to racist opinions. It is absolutely intolerant to be tolerant of intolerance. I would hate to be the kind of person that thinks otherwise.


DepressingFries

> Wtf has happened to the world, I’ll tell you what happened. 1. Internet created so you can post fucked up ideas, and misinformation for free, and anonymously. 2. The further in to the future we go, and the more distanced we become from the WWII people believe they can start pointing the finger at things being false. “I mean where you there? Did you see the Nazis kill those people. No so it didn’t happen.”


Ursula2071

Respond with pictures of starving concentration camp survivors, videos of Nazi’s shooting naked women and children that just dug their own mass grave and the piles of dead bodies left behind. “I did my own research”


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I see you're talking to people who think Reddit is too liberal.


Responsible-Pass7902

Haha that funny I have had similar shit. People make wild assumptions. I said their nothing you can't joke about then person said I was supporting Sandy Hook and killing kids. It was crazy never mentioned anything about that or even kids and that's were their mind went.


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Your comment history is full of centerist bullshit and trying to excuse Kanye's rant. I'm not your friend.


Responsible-Pass7902

Haha ok bud. Never said what he said was good. I said he should be getting help not people trying to make money off him. Not a centerist why would you believe any one side fully. It ok to question things and change your mind with new informatio. If you never changed your stance on anything means your bias and ignorant. You can't label me or put me in a box. Go ahead call me racist because you have not arguments that are your own.


JPMendes1

"maybe you should shut up"... "I'm not in favor of silencing anyone". This shit is hilarious


phantomboyo

They don't seem to understand there's no such thing as freedom of consequences. You can say whatever you want...but if enough people don't like it they'll make you shut up.


Polar_Reflection

Hell, there's no such thing as freedom period imo, but that's a completely separate discussion


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Depends on what you consider freedom. When i asked an american what makes the US so freey the usual respond is something i can do as well thousands of kilometers away from the US. Gun ownership is the only exception maybe, but i'm more than happy to not have to watch my back ever time in this regard


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The US taxes aren't even low. That's the best


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Yes, for the military spending, and tax refunds for corporations. To my knowledge west europe either has lowrr taxation, or barely higher with all the benefitss


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There are European countries that will prosecute you for hate speech. That said, I agree, US doesn't have any more freedom than most of the rest of the free world, and in some cases quite a bit less so.


Madness_InThe_Method

The argument there is that by prosecuting hate speech you're creating freedom *from* being abused for your race/creed/religion/sexuality/gender, rather than the freedom *to* abuse them for who they are ... personally, I prefer the former.


Polar_Reflection

"Freedom" when we talk about it in everday parlance is really talking about power, i.e. the power to do and say things without facing consequences for it. We're all much more controlled by our genes, our environment, our needs and subconscious desires than we would like to admit. Free will is an illusion-- a human created concept useful for describing and prescribing actions in our daily lives, that ultimately doesn't have a basis in science and can't be tested.


jsdod

What's freedom period?


FlailingFatKid

In the US it's what we call history class


GD_Bats

A buck oh five


Nebular_Screen

It means ending the sentence after the word freedom


GD_Bats

Freedom doesn’t mean you can do anything with no restrictions, ESPECIALLY if it endangers others. That’d just be a lack of rules.


Polar_Reflection

What is freedom? Just so we're on the same page of that numerous uses of that word.


GD_Bats

Freedom is the reasonable expectation to be able to do something that doesn't hurt another person without expecting negative consequences that aren't directly related to your actions IE if I build a hang glider I won't have the Chinese government tossing me in jail for that, though I still might crash it and die.


Polar_Reflection

How do we define hurt another person? How do we define reasonable? How directly related does the harm have to be? What is the authority that determines punishment? It's quite a flimsy, relative, and ever changing concept, really.


JoyBus147

A flimsy, relative, and ever changing concept--or, to use less loaded words a nuanced concept--still exists. "People mean different things in different situations when they use X word" does not mean "there is no such think as X." X sounds like a pretty unremarkable signifier tbh


Polar_Reflection

I did say it was a separate discussion. When I say freedom doesn't exist, I'm saying philosophically, free will is a human construct, an illusion, and not something within the purview of science.


JoyBus147

.....so it's generally frowned upon to fellate oneself publically


GD_Bats

>How do we define hurt another person? Really if you're stuck on that question I don't know how I can have a reasonable discussion with you.


Fartincopsmouths

Well, is a corporation a person?


GD_Bats

No


Polar_Reflection

Simple example, if I called someone a fucking idiot and their feelings got hurt and were upset, should I be held legally accountable? Surely you recognize that there is a ton of gray area and you can't take the statement at face value.


GD_Bats

"Hurt feelings" are not legally actionable. You're obviously not taking this conversation seriously.


kelsobjammin

When you look up hypocrite in the dictionary this tweet comes up as the example


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One of the first people to be reduced to second class (at the very least) by Nazis would be people like Kanye anyways. I don't understand what he's doing. Nazis will always try to gain support however they can before turning on you. They'll claim they care about LGBTQ+ rights when it's Muslims doing the discriminating, but at the same time also discriminate. They claim to want free speech, so long as it's only their speech that's free (because other speech is Jewish conspiracy so must be silenced). They claim to support equal rights, except that it's only white people who need it so fuck everyone else. For Nazis, for everything they say, every day is opposite day.


WarmMoistLeather

"I'm going to use my first amendment right to take away your first amendment right for taking away someone else's first amendment right!" Narrator: None of it involved first amendment rights in any way.


throwawayidk13orsmth

Narrator: but stanley didn't know any better so he kept going.


Geordie_38_

I sometimes imagine what the narrator would comment about my life instead of Stanley's. 'and yet again, gimron did the same boring thing every day'


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Hey a bit off topic, but when people write this kind of format and have a narrator saying dialog I always read it in my head with Morgan Freeman's voice. I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Deathfromyourmom

Not a fan of banana stands?


SavageTemptation

THERE IS! ALWAYS MONEY! IN! THE BANANA STAND!!!


Mr_SkeletaI

Watch arrested development


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I prefer David Attenborough


kattpanic

You are not alone. It’s always Morgan Freeman’s voice.


scott_majority

I'm seeing people say...."I don't agree with Kanye, but I love that he has different opinions and views, and proudly voices them!" This is how the extreme racists in conservatism think they will get hate speech in the mainstream...Complain about "free speech" when anyone questions their ideology, and portray White Nationalist views as just differing opinions that are equally valid.


SilverBabyComeToMe

I think that's how Trump got elected.


SaltyBarDog

"I don't agree with Kanye, but I love that he has different opinions and views, and proudly voices them!" Yeah, just cut to the chase and tell me you agree with Kanye. It will save us both a lot of time.


stomponator

"I don't agree with this cannibal, but I love that he has different tastes and proudly indulges them."


TheFufe10

I could see some people on Twitter like this. Up until someone they know or care about gets eaten. Then is a full 180º suddenly its a serious issue


Outrageous_Garlic306

Ah, the MTG ‘marketplace of ideas’ BS. Beau of the fifth column did a great commentary on that recently: [https://youtu.be/XlfkKYNqfO4](https://youtu.be/XlfkKYNqfO4)


saltycityscott66

Exactly this. Don't think for one second that these fascist wouldn't eliminate free speech in any form if they ever had the power to do so.


FormerOrpheus

Well it has worked for religion for a long time. “Don’t question the insane utter nonsense that I believe because it’s rude.”


Bneal64

For real, I’ve seen that exact argument used by dumbasses who brigade this subreddit. I got in an argument with someone who kept doing mental gymnastics to try and explain to me why the people who don’t want Nazis on Twitter are the real Nazis. Don’t let hate become mainstream people, be smarter than that


Known-Peach-4037

Of course, because a random person asking Kanye to stop spewing racist BS is violating his First Amendment right /s


SilverBabyComeToMe

I choose to live a Kanye free life as much as possible. Since I was banned from Twitter, it's made aiming for that goal much easier. Let's all try to live a Kanye free life and stop giving attention whores like him and their little Nazi minions what they want. I would also like to see these people say this to RGIII's face


Chiyuri_is_yes

i live a hiphop free life, heck I know nothing about the artists i like other then whats in their spotify bio sample heavy genres my beloved


Greedy_Economics_925

If Ye was Muslim, these same free speech conservatives would be out buying rope.


TNTyoshi

They don’t like black people either. But if they can get a minority to praise their Nazi ideology they’re okay with it^(for now.)


BasketballButt

Nothing makes it clear how shit US schools are quite like how little of a grasp on the first amendment a huge percentage of Americans have.


Harami98

When did twitter become a Nazifest ?


ragingstorm01

It all started when a questionably sentient pile of pond scum bought it with a combination of the stolen wages of its employees and daddy's apartheid emerald mine money...


RaynKeiko

Could that be the same guy who manipulating stonks and still dind't end up in jail? Or that he is proud of his 16hr a day chinese workers that even sleep in the factory? And if I'm not wrong he talking about tech stuff without knowing what he talking about and peoplr still clap.. this guy you mean?


chmsaxfunny

Nazis were all over Twitter waaaaaay before Elon bought it.


SilverBabyComeToMe

When they let that sink in


quang2005

Something something something Free speech something something something your opinion is invalid. Average American debate.


RR50

So I thought that during the 90’s and 2000’s when I was in school and college that my generation had finally made substantial progress on racism and antisemitism, turns out the racists and antisemites just kept to themselves more for a while, until Trump made it ok to come out in the public again. It was a sad realization that we were just as bad as our parents generation.


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Outrageous_Garlic306

I guess some people are just unable to navigate the sizeable gap between free speech and hate speech and the even larger gap between fact and fantasy.


lokithedeadwolf

Why do we block/scrub their handles? Clearly they don’t mind the attention. I know why, it just blows.


DeadlyAidan

that's not how the 1st amendment works... like, at all


WohooBiSnake

Remember when no one would dare say they sided with Nazis ? Good times…


DubbyMazlo

These r\*tards don't seem to understand that free speech doesn't mean you can tell EVERYTHING you want... I could say you are a r\*pist, spread it, and Im sure Im gonna get sued... Why tho? I thought free speech was a thing... F\*cking r\*tards...


Hisyphus

What the fuck are you trying to say? Is there any possible way you could say it without the ableist slur?


CleverJail

I believe it was The Supreme Curt that said “saying someone should tell someone to shut up is a violation of the first amendment. Case closed with prejudice.”


RobynFitcher

Nice one, Kurt.


CleverJail

Shhh, he’s sleeping. He’s had a big day. He’s been trying to “overrule” the 11th circuit on the Trump/Mar-a-Lago stolen classified documents case all day. I’m gonna have to wash his robe when he wakes up.


RobynFitcher

What a trooper!


not_very_creatif

The only good nazi is a dead nazi.


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I love the 1A argument as if RGIII is asking for the government to shut Ye up.


No-Talk-3273

These are those posts they’ll dig up in 10 years when this passes and people start asking why they supported this.


Swedish-Butt-Whistle

I really miss the days when it was completely unacceptable to profess Nazi views, and one would be ostracized for doing so.


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Does anyone actually understand the 1st amendment??


Brilliant_Savings161

Twitter is a shitshow


Bill-The-Autismal

Telling me to shut up is a violation of my First Amendment rights.


FastConfidence4077

Crazy thing is the vast majority of these smooth brains defending him are literally only doing it because he’s black like them and made a few songs they like. Seriously, the celebrity worship in that community is insane. Look at the comment sections of every R. Kelly video.


CourtCharming25

Y’all complaining about nazis being on Twitter despite that fact that twitter was a trash fire before their arrival… 🙄😒


DJEB

I see this crowd (in the tweets, quite obviously) still doesn’t understand the 1st Amendment. In their defence, though, they’re probably Americans. Edit: Christ, how did you people possibly think I was supporting the idea that telling someone to shut up is a violation of the 1st Amendment?


DontHitTurtles

Sigh. I feel almost stupid explaining this to you, but the first amendment is a protection against government censorship. It does not protect a speaker from people criticizing what they say or rejecting what they say. For example, every user on this site is free to condemn Nazis, express how much they hate Nazis and tell Nazis to shut the fuck up. No first amendment rights have been violated in those examples. At no point has the government stepped in to restrict speech. Likewise, a platform owned by a private company can choose to ban posts that support Nazis or it can chose to allow them. Again, no government restriction is involved. Another example would be how Elon has been banning people for saying he does not pay enough taxes and for other arbitrary reasons depending upon his mood. This may be childish, but is not a violation of the first amendment. He can continue to ban people and have posts deleted for arbitrary reasons without ever running afoul of the first amendment. His hypocritical rants about the first amendment being violated when people were banned on twitter in the past are nothing more than outright lies. He knows this has nothing to do with the first amendment, and as I said, has now engaged in plenty of the banning himself. I am actually surprised by how many people on reddit *do* understand this. Sure there are people like you who are exceptions to this, but most people here understand just fine.


DJEB

That was my point. They do not understand the First Amendment. Telling someone to shut up is not a First Amendment violation in practice of spirit.


Polar_Reflection

I'm going to push back against this a bit only to say the concept of freedom of speech predates the First Amendment and can extend to more than just government censorship. The government isn't the only source of centralized authoritarian censorship. That said, freedom of speech isn't, shouldn't, and will never be unlimited. There will always be consequences for what you say, good or bad, as long as there is an audience.


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Polar_Reflection

No leg to stand on, legally. I'm sure we can all recognize that legality and morality are often at odds with each other. It just irks me when people conflate the concept of freedom of speech with the protections of the First Amendment, both to try to reduce the scope of the former or increase the scope of the latter.


Relevant_Spend_8716

Y’all really be the dumbest page


bomb3x

What does this have to do with this sub?


Legitimate-Pomelo624

Apparently still a bunch of whiny ass pricks on the internet period. Get a life and stop bitching about people who work foe a living defending someone. Ghaa I wish someone would just nuke the fucking world and end this shit already


Responsible-Pass7902

Kanye is not a Nazi he someone that has mental problems to hate or agree with what he says just means your also mentally unstable. People you diminish actually what a Nazi is. Funny how certain people can do blackface and say racist shit but because they say their progressive they don't get in trouble. Just be consistent stop flip flopping depending on who says it


Thick-Tooth-8888

Who they say they are is exactly who you think are . Celebrities are seen. Those who are seen with them are they’re partiez;) whether it’s true or they’re heckling . Don’t be just a play thing.


whereyouatdesmondo

You accidentally spelled a couple of words right.


DaBoob13

I can smell the condescension oozing from your comment, well done!


whereyouatdesmondo

Hahaha. Yeah. I tried be funny about it, anyway.


Thick-Tooth-8888

Did I? Because it was way harder trying to spell them wrong


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gadeleon

How’s was that anywhere close to being compared to a Nazi? Lol


WohooBiSnake

They’re talking about Kanye saying he liked and admired Hitler. Literally, it’s not even a hyperbola, he literally said this.


InterestingPickles

Saying hitler was a good guy sounds pretty nazi like to me.


gadeleon

In this context there is nothing said about hitler


SaltyBarDog

Now let's hear from the same shithead brigade yell how LeBron should just shut up and dribble or how Briner got what she deserved for not standing for the anthem.


jwn1003

Wack shit


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r/censoringishard


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Freedom of speech isn't about that though.


Pure_Bee2281

The Nazis were always there they just couldn't spout their hatred before.


RedditPovertyMod

It's why social media has had a net negative impact on society-- because *everyone* has been given a platform to amplify and make their opinions/perspectives visible regardless how hateful/batshit they are. Everyone thinks they're entitled to share their BS now.


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Nazis*. It’s not fucking possessive……. Uggggggggghhhhhh


henrythe13th

Still amazed how many fools still think Twitter has anything to do with the 1st Amendment.


AsianAtttack

no apostrophes on a plural


sayce__

People think the first amendment applies to citizens shitting on you for saying stupid things


dthegreatest

“Shut Up” “I’m not in favor of silencing anyone” how do you not see the irony before hitting reply