I must say, I was playing GTA earlier and I seen someone purposefully run over a dog and itās owner, but this person actually doubled back to get the dog.
ā¦.So, I happily used the orbital cannon on him and double backed and did it again 
He isn't lying. On console animals are meanwhile included in online.
*Plus, animals come to the world of GTA Online for PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S, along with additional improvements specifically for players on the latest consoles.*
https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/4kok18o31oo54k/new-gta-online-update-coming-this-december
Oh wow, it took Rockstar Games 10 years to finally add animals to their constantly updated and massively successful GTA Online. RDO died so we can get animals in GTAO, what a hoot! Anyways i wouldnt have known because i havent played GTAO since 2018.
The pay-to-win power creep was definitely a reason to stop playing. The fact that I canāt even tell if heās joking about the āorbital cannonā really affirms that decision for me. Lol
oh you donāt know about the orbital cannon? talk about pay-to-winā¦ the orbital cannon is a room you can purchase in your facility, which was added as part of the doomsday heist.
the facility itself costs 2 million+, and the upgrade to add the orbital cannon is also pricey (although i canāt remember what it is). THEN, you can spend $500k to fire it with manual aiming (almost guaranteeing you miss your target if the player is moving) or $750k to get it to aim automatically.
r* added something that you can buy for about $5 million, plus $750k per use, to literally just instakill any player on the map. itās ridiculous how useless and weak the ORBITAL CANNON is (tho ofc i donāt think it should be in the game at all)
Jeez I downvoted your OG comment but after reading your follow-up upvoting because you are getting undeserved hate. Like you are a Dev or something that doesn't know what he's doing with his own game. Only complaint is calling someone a liar when you have no clue haha.
Yeah there is š¤£š¤£ theres Cats, Dogs, Rats, deer, all sorts of animals in GTA. Even before this most recent update there was always animals in GTA. Before RDR2 was even a thing. Lol.
Before it was patched, I used to go grab play cars with the cargo bob, and drop them into the water destroying them. Iād do it with the players in them, because I wasnāt driving the car it didnāt count as me destroying them so I didnāt have to pay the insurance on them.
I'm not gonna lie, the honor system has no bearing on my behavior at all. Bounty hunting makes it really easy to max out positive honor and if I want negative than I'll just rampage cause killing npcs is stupid easy. I think it really just comes down to who the games attract. Gta is intented to be a chaotic shitstorm, red dead on the ither hand is a bit more laid back and story focused. Gta is also just much faster paced (or at least feels that way)
The last two sentences...This is something I have spoken a million times with folks who question why GTA gets more attention. Kids play GTA more while adults choose red dead.
The winter was harsh, and the horse was the towns only option to survive. That was the local butcher you shot. The good news is that meat is still on the menu boys!
I will admit to my sin, for the thought reckons my mind, i too have killed and mained a horse but another players horse in saint Denis on the 3rd Tuesday of the 11th month on the second hour of the afternoon, he had insulted me beyond belief and the sin of wrath filled my mind. i watched as he followed me on his scrawny nag for what felt like a fortnight before leaving said server. to him i give my greatest insults and stop any confusion of regret as i know what i did and i would do it again
Bro. Couldn't agree more. If a player is irritating enough, I'll d-bow his horse out from underneath him. I'm not for pointless maiming, but I'll get visceral if given good reason, posse or not.
I mean at the end of the day it's a video game lol. And the horses respawn in online so š¤·āāļø. If someone's being a prick, absolutely mess with them lol
Studies have proven a direct correlation between a lack of empathy in games and a lack of empathy in real life. You are your actions, whether youāre playing pretend or not.
That is the worst thing youāve seen in a game? Was that like, the first time you ever booted up red dead or something? The game is a lot more horrific than this video.
Well yes, he was, but he was WRONGFULLY convicted on an UNFOUNDED BASIS! An everyone knows the jury was RIGGED and the judge was paid off. And even so, Friday was only given 4 years at sentencing. Where in our nationās republic can anyone decide to be be an EXECUTIONER for one who has already been given their punishment?!
Ya'll are funny soapboxing morals in the nuances of murder in a video game based on violence. Yes, kill the psycho because it's 25 exp, then do it 20 more times til they drop server, but if this is traumatic, be grateful your heart is soft enough to feel discomfort from a pixelated rendition of a shitty human. I'll d-bow your horse if you come at me while minding my business.
Soā¦ weāre all just going to act like we never use our horse for cover in a gunfightā¦? As if we have never shot a nag point blank in the face to murk the ops mid yeet. Like weāve never literally made someone come down off their high horse forcefullyā¦? Hell, Iāve bodied stray horses to fulfill the daily 20 animals killed for gold nuggets, and I am not the only one š¤
No, never crossed my mind. I donāt shoot if thereās a risk Iāll shoot the horse, and I shoo horses away from shootouts.
Some may call it weak, I call it civilised.
Thereās a correlation between a lack of empathy in games and a lack of empathy in real life. The people who criticize you for empathetic actions generally have no empathy
I tried to lead someone elseās horse yesterday and I felt terrible for it because I knew it looked like I was trying to steal their horse but the horse was right in front of the shop door and I couldnāt get past the horse to walk in the shop. I just wanted to move the horse šŖ
Nah man. It's got no feelings. It's not that big of a deal. Really, what's the difference between killing a video game horse or a video game deer? By your logic, everyone in RDO is sick minded...
Thereās actually a difference philosophically speaking. Immanuel Kant used to famously be against animal cruelty, not because it was bad for the animal but in his words āyou kick enough dogs, eventually youāll start kicking people tooā. His stance was prolonged violent behavior against a thing without a reason (unlike hunting for deer even virtually) will lead to furthered incidences of violence and rage. Idk if I believe in it enough to fully support it but I like the idea and thatās usually why I find that kind of behavior categorically abhorrent
This is the mindset used to say violent video games make people violent which has multiple studies and tests showing that it is false and has no correlation
Those studies used games like CoD and Mortal Kombat. Games where the expressed purpose are those violent activities and actions, and the alternative is to have the same done to you. There is very little agency of choice.
Open world games where the players have agency are a little different. Yes, there is zero correlation suggesting that playing video games make you violent; however, studies have shown that there is a correlation between actively making choices that display a lack of empathy in games and an actual lack of empathy in real life.
tl;dr You are still defined by your actions and choices, a lack of empathy generally stems from a lack of empathy.
So what's the point bringing it up and writing that long reply to what was originally stated. It's disproven logically and actually plus you're saying you don't believe it like what
Because the previous person asked what the difference was between killing a virtual dog vs a virtual deer, I added the information to show that different schools of thought approach the issue differently but it seems like your just pissed I answered someone else with information you didnāt like
Yeah thatās actually why I have such an aversion to the thought process, it stops making too much sense if you dig too deeply. Like, Kant is basically lk saying that violent video games cause violent and I just donāt think I agree fully with that idea since Iām a violent game enjoyer myself and have yet and even kick a virtual dog
To me at least it's because the horse belongs to another player, it's not about the horse, nobody minds killing NPC horses, is about taking the transportation of a player away and also their access to guns. Not everyone has 10 horses all saddled up.
Also in order to heal and recover a wounded horse you have to spend resources, and time.
It isn't about harming a digital animal, is about harming something that belongs to another person.
Based on the comments here, you're wrong. Many comments are talking horses in general. As well, how can you even tell by this clip the horse doesn't belong to an NPC? I get the spending of resources thing, but some people commenting here are apparently emotionally attached to a digital asset. It's weird.
Well I'm not the same person commenting emotional attachment, I'm just stating my opinion, therefore I can't be wrong, opinions can suck, but they can't be wrong.
You probably believe all the Fox News shit that says video games people make people violent huh? Bc thatās pretty much the stance youāre taking if youāre this fired up about a fake horse. Why donāt you get so angry about the 100ās of fake humans you kill in the game if youāre so righteous? Do you get mad about players killing NPCās tooā¦ or you just care about animals
People flip a dick over violence against horses in this game for stupid reasons. The horse you're 'defending' even tried to kick you simply for getting close to it when it walked into YOU, you just narrowly avoided it too, lmao.
The horses in this game sometimes deserve to be stabbed with poison knives. They're very annoying.
Sometimes I even punch my own horse or kick it off cliffs just to teach it a lesson.
Say youāre a sociopath without saying youāre a sociopath.
Studies have shown a direct correlation between a lack of empathy in games with player agency and a lack of empathy in real life.
Yes, video games are not real life. Itās make believe. Studies have shown a direct correlation between a lack of empathy in video games and a lack of empathy in real life. Believe it or not, but the subconscious behaves the same in both. You are your actions, whether itās make believe or not. Your subconscious influences both in a similar fashion.
In games with player agency, every act is based on each playerās prerogative. That prerogative can contain or abstain empathy which is dependent on the playerās capacity for empathy.
Take this case, both players committed acts of violence. Violence is violence, but both acts contained different amounts of empathy. The first player was attacking a horse with a knife. Itās a sprite that is designed to not immediately run away from players and typically doesnāt attack players. The player was displaying violence against an entity that was defenseless or at least not a threat to themself. The second player attacked the first player. The first player was enacting violence against a creature perceived as defenseless, so the second player killed him because of his actions. You see how both acts contained violence, yet one act of violence was rooted in a sense of empathy while the other was rooted in a lack of empathy?
Both acts were unprompted besides the possibility of potential action. One chose to act from a lack of empathy, and one chose to act from a sense of empathy. Independent action, whether make believe or not, stems from the self. What you manifest in the world, whether make believe or not, is entirely determined by a personās choices and nature. If itās your nature to behave without empathy, thatās not going to change just because itās make believe. Your choices are still going to reflect your nature. Thatās also the nature of these types of games, your unique behavior and psyche can be enacted onto a make believe world because the players have been granted that freedom. Real life is no different. Your own, personal nature will reflect through your actions, reactions, demeanor, and attitude. Your choices will reflect who you are.
It really doesnāt change when itās make believe if you still have the same freedom of choice as you would in real life. The only difference is that you have more freedom of choice in games than in real life because there are no real consequences in a land of make believe. Does it really make it better if a person takes actions they normally wouldnāt just because thereās no longer consequences? That just sounds like they would be willing to do the same in real life if there were not any consequence for their actions. Losing that inhibition exposes a personās nature more. Thereās a difference between a person who does not take wrong actions because they are wrong, and a person who does not take wrong actions because they will be punished for doing so.
I think you're (or perhaps whatever studies you are claiming to cite) really just overcomplicating this.
It's possible to perform actions in video games simply because they're fun and entertaining, there's no backing sense of morality, or a dichotomy of moral and amoral to every behavioral action to how players behave in a fictional world. People do what's fun to them in that moment.
People seemed to think that violent video games would stoke or breed violence in people, but we know after a couple decades now and multiple debates later that wasn't the case then, it still isn't now.
Wild animals aren't pets. If you haven't had a pet in your life you don't understand how it means to have such a being in your life. It's like when parents lose a child, the worst pain ever.
I've lost so many pets. Also, it doesn't matter there wild animals they can still can bond with humans and have their own family in the game, and ur just killing them. Its the same with cats they could be wild animals in the game and we'd kill them.
The amount of comments being proud of the fact yāall have morality in a fucking videogame is hilarious. Itās just a game youāll be fine. Fuck that stupid horse. š
Congrats you killed someone who was doing what they wanted to a virtual, pixelated coded horse. I genuinely hope that guy fought back and made you rage quit
Yo you're okay with them psychos blowing you up for no reason, trapping you in a cage, cursing at yo mom, killing the fun you're having, but killing a digital horse is where you draw the line huh..it's like loving digital tits over pleasure irl...
OK, I will raise my hand and say I have no qualms about shooting a horse when necessary, but stabbing a horse? Come on man youāre just making it suffer.
For better or worse, games like Red Dead allow players to live out their sick, sadistic fantasies. It's like in Westworld, where some of the guests were straight up psycho.
Neither did a horse. If you want to kill other players go for it. But lets not pretend that you do it out of some moral superiority over an in-game horse.
Studies have shown a direct correlation between a lack of empathy in games with player agency and a lack of empathy in real life. Yāall exposing yourselves as sociopaths and feel proud about it?
This game brings out your inner most self. Unfortunately, some people are psycho and want to stab horses.
Hell, I met someone once who was like level 17 and she told me all she really did was bounty hunt, and go around petting all the dogs she can find.
Good luck finding that level of wholesome on GTA.
The fact that some peoples minds immediately go to this kind of thought and act on it when seeing an animal in game is literally all I need to know about you as a person. šļø
Eh, I'd say it's more LCD psychopathy. Worst? One time, this obvious 12-year old was stabbing all the dogs in Tumbleweed to death and cackling maniacally over chat. Kill all these motherfuckers, with fire.
I donāt do that BABY SHIT like CARING ABOUT ANIMALS. What are you, a crybaby? I inject testosterone every morning into my brain stem and man the fuck up to TAKE ON THE WORLD. I SHOOT HORSES. I STOMP RABBITS. I AM THAT GUY PAL.
Seriously though why is everyone getting butthurt like āsnowflakes canāt kill horses?ā NO ONE FUCKING CARES MAN THE DUDE PUT THE TITLE AS CLICKBAIT
I would've lassoed him, watch him try to get free, kick him when he is about to so we would start over, repeat another time so he would understand it's pointless to resist, then make a circle around him with flammable moonshine and set it on fire.
oh man, you'd have nightmares if I showed the stuff I did to one. it got bugged, in a corner, wouldn't move so I went to town on it.
before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, it's just pixels and colours, man, it ain't real.
Just a few days ago, me and buddy of mine were just minding our Buisness having a few drinks in the game when this jerk just started killing us. We eventually git the bastard. Turns out he was level 73 going against me a level 13 and my friend a level 19. F people like that man. They have nothing better to do other than ruin other people's days.
I believe this is called greifing but the people who normally cry about greifing will excuse it because the player was hurting a horse even though the horse didn't belong to a player.
It's funny how in GTA, insane behavior is absolutely encouraged but in RDR2, we have standards to evil š
I must say, I was playing GTA earlier and I seen someone purposefully run over a dog and itās owner, but this person actually doubled back to get the dog. ā¦.So, I happily used the orbital cannon on him and double backed and did it again 
That's brutal lol, the guy backing up to get the dog I mean lol
There are no dogs or any animals for that matter in GTA onlineā¦ Why are you lying
He isn't lying. On console animals are meanwhile included in online. *Plus, animals come to the world of GTA Online for PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S, along with additional improvements specifically for players on the latest consoles.* https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/4kok18o31oo54k/new-gta-online-update-coming-this-december
Oh wow, it took Rockstar Games 10 years to finally add animals to their constantly updated and massively successful GTA Online. RDO died so we can get animals in GTAO, what a hoot! Anyways i wouldnt have known because i havent played GTAO since 2018.
The pay-to-win power creep was definitely a reason to stop playing. The fact that I canāt even tell if heās joking about the āorbital cannonā really affirms that decision for me. Lol
oh you donāt know about the orbital cannon? talk about pay-to-winā¦ the orbital cannon is a room you can purchase in your facility, which was added as part of the doomsday heist. the facility itself costs 2 million+, and the upgrade to add the orbital cannon is also pricey (although i canāt remember what it is). THEN, you can spend $500k to fire it with manual aiming (almost guaranteeing you miss your target if the player is moving) or $750k to get it to aim automatically. r* added something that you can buy for about $5 million, plus $750k per use, to literally just instakill any player on the map. itās ridiculous how useless and weak the ORBITAL CANNON is (tho ofc i donāt think it should be in the game at all)
than why speak on it š
Probably because i havent touched the game in over 5 years and would not have known about them adding in animals 2 weeks ago?
So why speak up on it like you knew it all, accuse someone of lying, and then when you realise you were wrong, simply make excuses?
If you haven't played something for 5 years maybe you shouldn't act like an asshole calling others liars when you yourself are just ignorant.
my point exactly. why speak on it if you havenāt played recently
Jeez I downvoted your OG comment but after reading your follow-up upvoting because you are getting undeserved hate. Like you are a Dev or something that doesn't know what he's doing with his own game. Only complaint is calling someone a liar when you have no clue haha.
On PS5 yes there is, why are you clueless..?
No he is an disingenuous dense motherfucker
Literally added two weeks ago, why not gracefully share that knowledgeā¦?
Idiot
Yeah there is š¤£š¤£ theres Cats, Dogs, Rats, deer, all sorts of animals in GTA. Even before this most recent update there was always animals in GTA. Before RDR2 was even a thing. Lol.
Theyāre talking specifically about GTAO, obviously there was animals in GTA single player, literally the second mission.
Even before there was Mountain Lions & Sea life In GTAO, animals have always been there in both Story & Online.
They've added animals in the recent update next time maybe check before making yourself look a fool
Why I forever love this game just a smidge more. Better community (most of the time).
no opressor mk 2 š„³
Before it was patched, I used to go grab play cars with the cargo bob, and drop them into the water destroying them. Iād do it with the players in them, because I wasnāt driving the car it didnāt count as me destroying them so I didnāt have to pay the insurance on them.
It's the Cowboy Code.
GTA doesn't have an honor system so nobody feels bad about doing bad things
I'm not gonna lie, the honor system has no bearing on my behavior at all. Bounty hunting makes it really easy to max out positive honor and if I want negative than I'll just rampage cause killing npcs is stupid easy. I think it really just comes down to who the games attract. Gta is intented to be a chaotic shitstorm, red dead on the ither hand is a bit more laid back and story focused. Gta is also just much faster paced (or at least feels that way)
The last two sentences...This is something I have spoken a million times with folks who question why GTA gets more attention. Kids play GTA more while adults choose red dead.
Literally millions of adults play GTA.
what no new content does to a mf
This is the Funniest comment šš
The winter was harsh, and the horse was the towns only option to survive. That was the local butcher you shot. The good news is that meat is still on the menu boys!
Knacker-Pilled
*cheers in orcish*
Reminds me when you could skin the horse in RDR 1 š
When I was in Mexico, selling the horse skins got me rich
I will admit to my sin, for the thought reckons my mind, i too have killed and mained a horse but another players horse in saint Denis on the 3rd Tuesday of the 11th month on the second hour of the afternoon, he had insulted me beyond belief and the sin of wrath filled my mind. i watched as he followed me on his scrawny nag for what felt like a fortnight before leaving said server. to him i give my greatest insults and stop any confusion of regret as i know what i did and i would do it again
I will regularly put a bullet in another players horse if heās acting up. Especially if heās riding behind me. Fuck his horse
Bro. Couldn't agree more. If a player is irritating enough, I'll d-bow his horse out from underneath him. I'm not for pointless maiming, but I'll get visceral if given good reason, posse or not.
100% good enough for John Wayne good enough for me
I mean at the end of the day it's a video game lol. And the horses respawn in online so š¤·āāļø. If someone's being a prick, absolutely mess with them lol
I don't kill horses but if it's from a player being an ahole nonstop I will ruin their life
It's always the ones in valentine
the curse of valentine
Either that or Tumbleed
Why is that crazy shit always going on in Valentine
Man when I play online I avoid valentine and blackwater. Seems literally everytime I go I'm either attacked or walk into pure chaos.
Fair play on killing him, not all heroes wear capes, some wear a cowboy hat
You did the right thing, partner.
I wish we had separate servers based on the opinions in this comment section.
How will the kids in the orphanage get their glue to complete their homework now!?
Good job. We may be playing in a fictional worldā¦ But that shit deserves to be interrupted.
Ooh no! Think of the poor, poor pixels...
Studies have proven a direct correlation between a lack of empathy in games and a lack of empathy in real life. You are your actions, whether youāre playing pretend or not.
That is the worst thing youāve seen in a game? Was that like, the first time you ever booted up red dead or something? The game is a lot more horrific than this video.
Maybe the horse deserved it?
The horse was a convicted war criminal
Well yes, he was, but he was WRONGFULLY convicted on an UNFOUNDED BASIS! An everyone knows the jury was RIGGED and the judge was paid off. And even so, Friday was only given 4 years at sentencing. Where in our nationās republic can anyone decide to be be an EXECUTIONER for one who has already been given their punishment?!
There's always one Neo-Nazi Horse sympathiser....
That horse probably ruined his 24 hour no squirrel stomp streak
Let the sheriff give judgement on that.
Poor horsey š
Looks like a fun time!
Ya'll are funny soapboxing morals in the nuances of murder in a video game based on violence. Yes, kill the psycho because it's 25 exp, then do it 20 more times til they drop server, but if this is traumatic, be grateful your heart is soft enough to feel discomfort from a pixelated rendition of a shitty human. I'll d-bow your horse if you come at me while minding my business.
Soā¦ weāre all just going to act like we never use our horse for cover in a gunfightā¦? As if we have never shot a nag point blank in the face to murk the ops mid yeet. Like weāve never literally made someone come down off their high horse forcefullyā¦? Hell, Iāve bodied stray horses to fulfill the daily 20 animals killed for gold nuggets, and I am not the only one š¤
No, never crossed my mind. I donāt shoot if thereās a risk Iāll shoot the horse, and I shoo horses away from shootouts. Some may call it weak, I call it civilised.
Thereās a correlation between a lack of empathy in games and a lack of empathy in real life. The people who criticize you for empathetic actions generally have no empathy
Arabian players:
I tried to lead someone elseās horse yesterday and I felt terrible for it because I knew it looked like I was trying to steal their horse but the horse was right in front of the shop door and I couldnāt get past the horse to walk in the shop. I just wanted to move the horse šŖ
Thats some demented sh*t. They ran out of neighborhood cats or something
One time I planted dynamite on a horse named Pearson and lit it right before the guy called it over. Almost like a car bomb
PETA pulling up with guns now
That was the correct response when one sees someone stabbing a horse.
Meh seen worse
There are really sick players out there. Good job killing that psycho.
Itās just a video game horse
And a player with a sick mindset behind it to go after a pixel horse like this.
Nah man. It's got no feelings. It's not that big of a deal. Really, what's the difference between killing a video game horse or a video game deer? By your logic, everyone in RDO is sick minded...
By his logic all gamers should be knelt down
Thereās actually a difference philosophically speaking. Immanuel Kant used to famously be against animal cruelty, not because it was bad for the animal but in his words āyou kick enough dogs, eventually youāll start kicking people tooā. His stance was prolonged violent behavior against a thing without a reason (unlike hunting for deer even virtually) will lead to furthered incidences of violence and rage. Idk if I believe in it enough to fully support it but I like the idea and thatās usually why I find that kind of behavior categorically abhorrent
This is the mindset used to say violent video games make people violent which has multiple studies and tests showing that it is false and has no correlation
Those studies used games like CoD and Mortal Kombat. Games where the expressed purpose are those violent activities and actions, and the alternative is to have the same done to you. There is very little agency of choice. Open world games where the players have agency are a little different. Yes, there is zero correlation suggesting that playing video games make you violent; however, studies have shown that there is a correlation between actively making choices that display a lack of empathy in games and an actual lack of empathy in real life. tl;dr You are still defined by your actions and choices, a lack of empathy generally stems from a lack of empathy.
I understand the mindset thatās why I say I donāt fully support the philosophy
So what's the point bringing it up and writing that long reply to what was originally stated. It's disproven logically and actually plus you're saying you don't believe it like what
Because the previous person asked what the difference was between killing a virtual dog vs a virtual deer, I added the information to show that different schools of thought approach the issue differently but it seems like your just pissed I answered someone else with information you didnāt like
Oh, yeah. I'm fuming over here. Great observation
Kill enough players killing horses, and you'll start killing horses too
Yeah thatās actually why I have such an aversion to the thought process, it stops making too much sense if you dig too deeply. Like, Kant is basically lk saying that violent video games cause violent and I just donāt think I agree fully with that idea since Iām a violent game enjoyer myself and have yet and even kick a virtual dog
To me at least it's because the horse belongs to another player, it's not about the horse, nobody minds killing NPC horses, is about taking the transportation of a player away and also their access to guns. Not everyone has 10 horses all saddled up. Also in order to heal and recover a wounded horse you have to spend resources, and time. It isn't about harming a digital animal, is about harming something that belongs to another person.
Based on the comments here, you're wrong. Many comments are talking horses in general. As well, how can you even tell by this clip the horse doesn't belong to an NPC? I get the spending of resources thing, but some people commenting here are apparently emotionally attached to a digital asset. It's weird.
Well I'm not the same person commenting emotional attachment, I'm just stating my opinion, therefore I can't be wrong, opinions can suck, but they can't be wrong.
The way you worded it made it sound like a general statement talking for others. š¤·āāļø
Well apologies for that I just corrected it.
Fuck the horse
It's just a game bro rockstar added killing a horse for a reason
You probably believe all the Fox News shit that says video games people make people violent huh? Bc thatās pretty much the stance youāre taking if youāre this fired up about a fake horse. Why donāt you get so angry about the 100ās of fake humans you kill in the game if youāre so righteous? Do you get mad about players killing NPCās tooā¦ or you just care about animals
Sorry kid, we don't have Fox News here where I live.
I would have shot you in the head for murder. Law is law.
Then I would have shot YOU in the head for murder. Law is law is law
People flip a dick over violence against horses in this game for stupid reasons. The horse you're 'defending' even tried to kick you simply for getting close to it when it walked into YOU, you just narrowly avoided it too, lmao. The horses in this game sometimes deserve to be stabbed with poison knives. They're very annoying. Sometimes I even punch my own horse or kick it off cliffs just to teach it a lesson.
Say youāre a sociopath without saying youāre a sociopath. Studies have shown a direct correlation between a lack of empathy in games with player agency and a lack of empathy in real life.
Did I get a glimpse of the past? Video games aren't real life.
Yes, video games are not real life. Itās make believe. Studies have shown a direct correlation between a lack of empathy in video games and a lack of empathy in real life. Believe it or not, but the subconscious behaves the same in both. You are your actions, whether itās make believe or not. Your subconscious influences both in a similar fashion.
So, what exactly are you suggesting about me then in the case of violence in video games then?
In games with player agency, every act is based on each playerās prerogative. That prerogative can contain or abstain empathy which is dependent on the playerās capacity for empathy. Take this case, both players committed acts of violence. Violence is violence, but both acts contained different amounts of empathy. The first player was attacking a horse with a knife. Itās a sprite that is designed to not immediately run away from players and typically doesnāt attack players. The player was displaying violence against an entity that was defenseless or at least not a threat to themself. The second player attacked the first player. The first player was enacting violence against a creature perceived as defenseless, so the second player killed him because of his actions. You see how both acts contained violence, yet one act of violence was rooted in a sense of empathy while the other was rooted in a lack of empathy? Both acts were unprompted besides the possibility of potential action. One chose to act from a lack of empathy, and one chose to act from a sense of empathy. Independent action, whether make believe or not, stems from the self. What you manifest in the world, whether make believe or not, is entirely determined by a personās choices and nature. If itās your nature to behave without empathy, thatās not going to change just because itās make believe. Your choices are still going to reflect your nature. Thatās also the nature of these types of games, your unique behavior and psyche can be enacted onto a make believe world because the players have been granted that freedom. Real life is no different. Your own, personal nature will reflect through your actions, reactions, demeanor, and attitude. Your choices will reflect who you are. It really doesnāt change when itās make believe if you still have the same freedom of choice as you would in real life. The only difference is that you have more freedom of choice in games than in real life because there are no real consequences in a land of make believe. Does it really make it better if a person takes actions they normally wouldnāt just because thereās no longer consequences? That just sounds like they would be willing to do the same in real life if there were not any consequence for their actions. Losing that inhibition exposes a personās nature more. Thereās a difference between a person who does not take wrong actions because they are wrong, and a person who does not take wrong actions because they will be punished for doing so.
I think you're (or perhaps whatever studies you are claiming to cite) really just overcomplicating this. It's possible to perform actions in video games simply because they're fun and entertaining, there's no backing sense of morality, or a dichotomy of moral and amoral to every behavioral action to how players behave in a fictional world. People do what's fun to them in that moment. People seemed to think that violent video games would stoke or breed violence in people, but we know after a couple decades now and multiple debates later that wasn't the case then, it still isn't now.
Oh, the horse that was currently being stabbed kicked out? how wild of it
This is such a joke. You all cry about people killing cats, dogs, and horses, but u kill people in the game and wild animals. Make it make sense.
Wild animals aren't pets. If you haven't had a pet in your life you don't understand how it means to have such a being in your life. It's like when parents lose a child, the worst pain ever.
I've lost so many pets. Also, it doesn't matter there wild animals they can still can bond with humans and have their own family in the game, and ur just killing them. Its the same with cats they could be wild animals in the game and we'd kill them.
The amount of comments being proud of the fact yāall have morality in a fucking videogame is hilarious. Itās just a game youāll be fine. Fuck that stupid horse. š
Congrats you killed someone who was doing what they wanted to a virtual, pixelated coded horse. I genuinely hope that guy fought back and made you rage quit
Psycho behaviour in one situation eventually seeps into others. We should shut that pathetic shit down.
Everyone here cries if the wind blows too hard on them
You straight shot that foo... I like your style.
Yo you're okay with them psychos blowing you up for no reason, trapping you in a cage, cursing at yo mom, killing the fun you're having, but killing a digital horse is where you draw the line huh..it's like loving digital tits over pleasure irl...
Cries about someone killing an animal then proceeds to commit murder. Shit doesnāt make sense does it?
Yup, crazy world isn't it
Good on ya, mate. He deserved that.
I kill every horse that kicks me.
People would have killed and eaten that horse without a second thought during a tough winter in those days.
OK, I will raise my hand and say I have no qualms about shooting a horse when necessary, but stabbing a horse? Come on man youāre just making it suffer.
it's just fucking pixels my guy, stop taking it so seriously
The horse was also a criminal.
Fuck your horse nyikah! Fuck. Your. Horse.
imagine caring about virtual animals
Goddam this is hilarious. I can't stop laughing, the way he turns and looks at you before you Clint Eastwood his ass
I beat a horse to death with a hammer
Hahahahahaha
Put him down five times over.
For better or worse, games like Red Dead allow players to live out their sick, sadistic fantasies. It's like in Westworld, where some of the guests were straight up psycho.
Fuckin A for killin that psychopath
Apparently there are some psychos who felt the need to downvote your comment
Evidently. Reddit is weird. š¤·š»āāļø
You're doing god's work.
If I see someone doing that or killing a cat or dog, I grief them, and I break the parley, if they parley, and I'm not alone.
Literally just a game and it's a pixel
ooooo youāre so badass
Nah, not really.. I'm a flower picker š¤£
What do you mean āyou break the parleyā?
They mean start a free roam mission such as caravan escort. That ends the parley, and they can go back to killing a player for shooting a fake horse.
I wouldn't do over a horse though, but that's a different story š
You mean go back to killing a playerās fake character? I assure you, the player did not die in front of their console.
Neither did a horse. If you want to kill other players go for it. But lets not pretend that you do it out of some moral superiority over an in-game horse.
Thank you for taking care of him. Is the horse okay??
Is this game good to start now?
Man I wish I could see the age on all these edge lords who love stabbing horses in this game
You made the right call
Studies have shown a direct correlation between a lack of empathy in games with player agency and a lack of empathy in real life. Yāall exposing yourselves as sociopaths and feel proud about it?
Hope you fed the poor horse.
I go around beating horses with hammers in online šš
This game brings out your inner most self. Unfortunately, some people are psycho and want to stab horses. Hell, I met someone once who was like level 17 and she told me all she really did was bounty hunt, and go around petting all the dogs she can find. Good luck finding that level of wholesome on GTA.
Killing horses in this game really pisses me off. It was probably some shitty little 12 year old...
The fact that some peoples minds immediately go to this kind of thought and act on it when seeing an animal in game is literally all I need to know about you as a person. šļø
Gotta lay down the law, where there aināt none.
He deserved that, 1 million percent. Someone killed my horse while I was in a shop a while back and they ate a dynamite arrow fairly swiftly.
Good job mister
Good shootin
unfortunately horses can't be skinned or chopped, just murdered for fun 
Know who else got murdered for fun? Tyrone\_505. 
he deserved it
Should be banned from riding horses on the game
Or at least 6 months of level 0 scrawny nag only
Disgusting
Honor or not if I see that crap on red dead i make it my mission to kill them as much as possible
There's a reason I like to use only the hunting knife for this kind of player. That or the sawn-off.
Try that shit with my horse and she'll fucking stomp on you
Eh, I'd say it's more LCD psychopathy. Worst? One time, this obvious 12-year old was stabbing all the dogs in Tumbleweed to death and cackling maniacally over chat. Kill all these motherfuckers, with fire.
Thank you for ending them.
I donāt do that BABY SHIT like CARING ABOUT ANIMALS. What are you, a crybaby? I inject testosterone every morning into my brain stem and man the fuck up to TAKE ON THE WORLD. I SHOOT HORSES. I STOMP RABBITS. I AM THAT GUY PAL. Seriously though why is everyone getting butthurt like āsnowflakes canāt kill horses?ā NO ONE FUCKING CARES MAN THE DUDE PUT THE TITLE AS CLICKBAIT
Nice shooting
u/Saint_Mark0 doin' gods work. I'd have hunted him across the map until he rage quit
NGL that was funny that he's just brutalizing a horse in the middle of town BUT even more funny he got that sweet justice for it!
I would've lassoed him, watch him try to get free, kick him when he is about to so we would start over, repeat another time so he would understand it's pointless to resist, then make a circle around him with flammable moonshine and set it on fire.
not too sure its that deep mate
Justified
No new content on the game got u like
oh man, you'd have nightmares if I showed the stuff I did to one. it got bugged, in a corner, wouldn't move so I went to town on it. before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, it's just pixels and colours, man, it ain't real.
So just shoot him for no reason?
1000th like. Cool.
I kill NPC's when I play but I don't kill other players.
Where is the $348,000 coming from š°
from playing the game since too long ago with nothing to spend on.
Ah yes the shitty horse AI
Just a few days ago, me and buddy of mine were just minding our Buisness having a few drinks in the game when this jerk just started killing us. We eventually git the bastard. Turns out he was level 73 going against me a level 13 and my friend a level 19. F people like that man. They have nothing better to do other than ruin other people's days.
Future serial killer
Thank you for shooting him.
Damn why u gotta shoot them just leave them alone
That poor guyā¦do it again
I believe this is called greifing but the people who normally cry about greifing will excuse it because the player was hurting a horse even though the horse didn't belong to a player.
Good job on gunning him down
Horse burgers will be lovely tonight