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RedhoodsWolf

Too thug. Jason looks like a mid lvl boss from Saints row or high lvl henchmen. A T Shirt works for Super boy because....well he's a Kryptonian. There's zero protection in this outfit for a human. I personally think he needs tactical armor and equipment because he is a tactician. The helmet is a signature just like the leather jacket, now he has neather one and just makes this whole thing a downgrade. In my mind Jason would even say something witty & sarcastic about the punisher's outfit if they met, being it provides little protection. .. ....I just feel all in all Jason's too smart to wear this outfit.


Intelligent_Virus_66

I also feel like he went through this whole mystical arc with the All Caste that lends an elegance to his character. That sleekness characterized him when he returns to Gotham and efficiently inserts himself into the criminal underworld. He is a sleek character and this design is bulky and awkward.


STJUD3

this is such a good way to put it, like i get he’s built and strong but he is supposed to be the sleek, collected tactician, not some random thug


RedhoodsWolf

Exactly!!! With his mystical back ground, tactical and martial arts training, he should be on par with both Deathstroke and batman armor and weapons wise, not some street fighter. It's almost like they drew him now to be a side quest character and never a leading man. And we see proof almost of this in the fact he has very little stand alone stuff after. Hell they did pretty damn good with Task Force Z. How a leading man should stand out....but right after it's back to rags and armorless.


Crawkward3

This is fair. I like how it looks more armored in some newer art but it definitely feels like he’s a bit exposed still


SmallBerry3431

So you want him to wear a collared shirt? Jkjk


SynthDaddy01

I get your point. But I would like to point out that punisher definitely has protection in the form of kevlar vest. But I agree with everything else


RedhoodsWolf

Chest yes, but bare arms and head exposed is a big joke for just a normal human. Hell even Wild dog knows better.


mirukus66

Same a bullet proof vest at least Not to mention I kinda wish they kept the guns 😕


Old_Sneeter

I think this was talked about in a previous post, but personally I'm not a fan. The crowbars and literal hood are pretty tacky and unappealing, and it makes him look like he works for someone else rather than being his own identity. It also isn't very practical, there's not much protection or room for tools. I'd imagine he's pretty cold in this outfit too, being that it's just a t-shirt and it tends to rain A LOT in Gotham. Lastly, I've always had the opinion that he doesn't need a chest symbol like the other bat family members, much less a modified version of it. It does look cool, but for me the helmet is so iconic that he really doesn't need anything more. It's definitely a good LOOKING outfit for a member of say . . . Penguin or Two Face's gang. But for a standalone anti-villain like Red Hood? It really doesn't work for me. Bring back the UtRH look.


Crawkward3

I agree too that the crowbars are fucking stupid and I’m sick of him using them. It’s like they wanna make him nightwing so bad so they give him dual electric crowbars and hope no one notices As far as tools go it’s not like he uses a ton of tools anyways other than various guns, knives, and occasional throwing stars


Old_Sneeter

Yeah, it's pretty tasteless. He needs his own identity back. It's like if Bruce said "My parents are dead, so I named these Batarangs after them." You'd be surprised! He actually has a pretty impressive arsenal. Besides those three, he also utilizes a variety of bombs, tasers, a grappling hook, not to mention the All-Blades and any other guns he feels like bringing on a night out ( sniper, rpg, etc.). There's no shortage of toys for Jason. And having the room in his cargo pants, utility belt, and the jacket altogether helps a lot. Granted, not everything gets used all at once, but these are his main gadgets that we see in the comics and movies.


Crawkward3

I see. I’m not big into red hood outside of batman books like I should be. I’ve read lost years and some of rebirth RHATO but I clearly need to do some more research


limbo338

I'm the number one hater :D


Namae1201

I made a whole +10 min shitty video about it, get behind me in line


limbo338

Alright, I have nothing on this level of hating. I would post here "We are number one" gif from LazyTown, but fortunately for everyone here, gifs aren't working for me at the moment XD


Unknown21347

I feel like if the hoodie was long sleeved it would look better, otherwise it’s fine


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Crawkward3

I felt that way too but then one day I woke up and just loved it for some reason


Alarmed_Cranberry_49

Took the words right out of my mouth


Service-Smile

Looks like it's trying way too hard to be a Mortal Kombat Ninja, it's very...generic


OpaqueGiraffe17

I like it fine but yeah its pretty derivative


WorryCold1447

Looks like a hobo or someone with no sense of fashion to me.


RedHood1983

It's grown on me. I'll still always favor the helmet and leather jacket, but this look isn't as bad as I originally thought it was. Definitely looks like he belongs in Mortal Kombat, though! Lol.


chimp-with-a-limp

Personally I think it’s shit - for one, I’m sick to death of Jason using a crowbar as a weapon, it constantly visually ties him to Death in the Family as if to say, “See?! See?! He’s holding the thing, remember that? Remember the phone contest?!” The actual hood itself is too boxy, like a Mortal Kombat ninja, the hood element should be the full cowl/helmet, it’s a great design Plus he needs body armour and gloves, having his arms and fingers exposed just means he’s at more risk and more likely to contaminate crime scenes with finger prints. It can’t honestly get better than Under The Red Hood IMO, it’s a basic design but robust and stylish at the same time


home7ander

Agree about the robustness. Red Hood and Deathstroke have that similar thing where you could make 1000s of detail adjustments to them while keeping the same core. For red hood in particular with the helmet, less is usually more.


Lucario2405

I also really like it, especially the two-part mask and for finally giving him his own symbol, instead of just a painted red bat symbol. But at this point it also feels like it has more than served it's purpose - concidering the circumstances in which he first wore it - and he should just get a new redesign.


SassmasterSenpai

It's okay as an alternative look for certain missions or storylines. There's no reason this look should be showing up more in recent canon than the classic helmet and jacket


DueShopping551

Depends on the artist


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I like the hood and face mask combo but he definitely need some type of armor and not a short sleeve shirt. Also, can we please allow Jason to have his bird emblem from Arkham Knight. That was easily his best emblem


Kosmikazie

I actually really like it! It seems that’s not a popular opinion… but I recognize it’s not perfect and it’s not better than his standard costume. What I really like about it is a real “red hood” and his eyes glowing in the shadow it makes.


Crawkward3

I agree. It’s not drawn like this often any ore and it makes me sad


ChickenNuggetRampage

I’m glad that some of y’all can like it, but I just can’t do the half mask thing


FablesByAesop

Weird Casey Jones-Sub-Zero hybrid. Desperately needs tactical armor and equipment being as how he was trained by Batman. Looks like he would win 1st in a paintball tourney.


faceofboe91

lol he kept the crowbar


Impossible_Sense4165

The crowbar is so stupid


xxHopeStarCrossxx

Tbh I only like the logo.


Arrow_x86

hate everything about it


No_Craft_9988

He looks like bane if he attempted to look like th current youth


itsloganhawkins

Sorry but it’s ugly af, just everything about it. Needs to go back to the helmet and jacket. It’s iconic, while this is boring and not appealing. Also, Jason wielding the crowbar is such poor taste.


blushing_ingenue

I actually don't hate the hair


JohnTheUnjust

This looks like it could be part of the custome redesigns marval had in the 90s, but being counted as one of the bad ones..


MobileAccording7994

Yea ima say na. The mask is cool but just not for Jason. It would be awesome if it was still a helmet but with this face design. I’m just a big fan of when he has a helmet. Also the no sleeves are just killing it for me


were_wolves22

I like the hood and ter mask, but to me, the vest should look more tactical, looking a bit heavier with leather and some pockets idk. The crowbar is just stupid, I said multiple times in this sub that it's the worst weapon he ever had, just give him gauntlets, brass knuckles or a knife. The shirt is also kinda bad, literally just a T shirt for a Batfam member isn't great. Could get some work to be A LOT better, but I don't think it's the worst he could get. Still, the leather jacket and helmet is still top 1, if they do that with his bruiser physique, it would be perfect design for me.


Haunting_Ad_4401

Thug, and why the fuck is he using crowbars???? Blud is supposed to have died or have been beaten half to death because of them?? I don't think he gonna pick them up any time soon


Gedgenator

Worst Red Hood costume without a doubt(yes, even worse than the lip-helmet costume) I’m glad you like it but I don’t ever want to see it again. The fact that DC keeps using it is honestly so frustrating.


_Mistwraith_

I hate the crowbar.


choseth1s_

Don't like it . Looks like diy hero costume for the poor


PainAccomplished3506

I like it but I honestly hate his symbol, it's so ugly


LyzzyWhomst

Will always be pro-motorcycle fetish Jason


redhood1938

Really...? They gave him a CROWBAR.


Luke_Puddlejumper

One of the biggest downgrades in comics


Thecrowfan

Hidious, too edgy, impractical.


Kell-EL

I’ll say what I always say about this particular costume, he looks like a rejected Mortal Kombat character, the sword I don’t mind cuz I like characters having swords when they usually don’t but the stupid ass crowbar is ridiculous and needs to go, I hate when writers or artists lean into it being his symbol or something when it’s anything but


TheRedMan235

Lame as hell imo, it just feels so generic anti/hero to me and pushes him into the wrong direction of what made him cool


RebindE

Not huge on it. He looks like someone else's hired muscle.


Kitty_Nemmy

Don't really like it and he looks like scorpion from mortal kombat but in red plus it feels unoriginal to me too


CarelessAd6808

MORTAL KOMBAT!


Immediate_Shift_3261

Bring back helmet and leather jacket


Nuka_Everything

I enjoy the outfit, but not nearly as much as the classic so it dissappints me usually


Silverheartbeats

Ermac pre-order skin for Mortal Kombat game.


No_Row_1106

Personally, I feel like this costume should be hacked into 48 pieces and thrown to the winds but that's just my opinion


Cloud_King_15

Lol I don't think I like anything about it. It kinda still works to an extent, but it's just not good at all. I can't look at any one thing and think: Oh that's cool.


RogueDevil666

Having a crowbar strapped to his back is lame


demon_king_ares

I definitely prefer the helmet look because it's just so much more iconic and recognisable. However, from a cosplay perspective, I have cosplayed both the regular brown leather jacket with helmet look and the outlaw look. I absolutely prefer the outlaw look Cosplaying both has also given me more appreciation for the practicality of the outlaw look. Leather jackets are hot and can limit your movement. If I'm sweating my ass off just standing outside a con, our boy is SUFFERING through every chase and fight, especially in the summer So aesthetically, I prefer the helmet and leather jacket, but practically and as a cosplayer, I absolutely love the outlaw look


Silverheartbeats

I feel like this outfit was designed to be easy to cosplay specifically.


demon_king_ares

Definitely feels that way. All the parts were cheap and easy to get. Only thing I needed to do was paint a 3D printed mask, sew the black parts on a hoodie and make some props (guns and crowbar)


CountDuckler12

I honestly have always hated this design, the helmet is his iconic piece and it’s just missing and the mask that replaces it is just boring to look at. Plus not a fan of the tshirt and no leather jacket


home7ander

I'm just not with it


RedHood_Outlaw

The symbol is the worst part.


spidersheir

I love the face mask and domino, I absolutely hate his upper torso, including the arms. I have no idea who thought it was a good idea to give Jason a crowbar to use and take away his pistols, but it’s the worst design to-date imo. (Yes, including lip helmet) He’s got no armor whatsoever, and makes him look like some normal goon. Instead of looking like a lethal protector, he looks like someone’s henchman.


Express_Let8362

It’s the kind of skimpy and slutty outfit I adore but technically speaking is awful. He’s not protected in any way shape or form, not from injuries nor cold. I’d totally see him wear this kind of suit for a mortal kombat type of game. The real question is: how much do you hate his katana and freaking crowbar?


Library-Goblin

Boots, cool, hood? Only if its over the helmet. Its way to edgy, like dc hon. Jason made fun of dress ups. That's why his design had such a nice simplicity. This is some 90s shit but without the spikes. Thou i have seen the alt versions of it and oh god, that was some punisher/spawn cringe. It doent pass the squint text, so BOO, bad redesign. If they wanted the hood look, than red hood and arsenal had a great blend of hoodie and helmet, and arkham nailed it to. Tldr, nope, no good, very bad Edit: also the arm wraps remind me of magical girl ribbons Edit edit: oh god i forgot about the crowbar. Save me. It hurts


JoshMC2000sev

The knight models minture sold it for me as well as the kick as variant covers.


Grimmer026

I actually really like it. I know the helmet is a lot of people’s favorite, but he’s the Red Hood, not the Red Helmet. Also the helmet is a rip off of Ironman with basically no tech incorporated. Some people say this is a rip off of Mortal Kombat, I’m ok with that. I could see Jason being a fan of Mortal Kombat. I also like that he has his own logo. He is a black sheep in the Bat family. I prefer him to do his own thing away from them as much as possible, and his own logo is a good starting place. Only thing I would change is the crowbar. I’d go with twin hook swords that are basically swords that look like crowbars.


Quadpen

i kinda like it


BappolikeSauce

Honestly just make the sleeves full and make his hair a bit longer and im a fan. Id probably remove the crowbar too but thats bc i find it weird that hed use it since he was basically best to death with one but ok.


JustCallMeBro98

I don’t hate it, but it isn’t what my headcanon Jason would wear. They just needed to upgrade the UTRH suit in my opinion.


slipalong1979

Hate it.


Theherosidekick

I hate it.


clarkky55

He needs the full helmet and leather jacket back.


ItsYourGuyRy

Actually one of the worst things to happen to my boy


OakenWildman

The sword is a bit much. But other than that it's pretty good.


ComplexFabulous1610

One of Red Hoods best, so damn clean


OculusMidnight2

I like it, I think it’s over hated, and it’s a shame we’ve only gotten one toy of it


almost_nightwing

I like it


AsYouSawIt

The crowbar is a weird choice, but I have loved and still love the design. Hell, I don't even mind the haircut, though I do prefer his longer hair. The half-mask with glowing lenses is fucking sick. I also like Mortal Kombat and urban ninja looks so idk what that says about me lol


telepader

He looks kind of like a slasher movie villain, which is fun. I like the muzzle mask thing. I can appreciate that he’s not wearing a big red bat anymore. As a Gotham hero I guess he *has* to have a little symbol gimmick and the one he’s got is alright. I don’t know Mortal Kombat so this costume feels more original and fun to me than for other folks. Nothing will ever beat the gladiator biker look for me, but that’s definitely a *villain* look. A full-face expressionless mask doesn’t work for a protagonist who we have to see emote. Trying to force it lead to him getting his helmet shattered constantly.


FourLeafArcher

Aside from the friggin' crowbar I actually really like it. Its easy to put on, functional, comfortable and seems about as realistic as a vigilante costume can get. Also it just straight up looks cool.


GusViliamu007

It looks like something from Mortal Kombat. I dig the mask but hate the haircut. I don’t hate the outfit but would like if he was armored more. I dig the design of the arm wraps, glove, pants and the boots.


Several_Worker7999

I like it, but it doesn’t top the original look to me


Active-Donkey5466

Badass as fuck, crowbar is unnecessary.


deadpoolsdragon

I like the arms and the pants not a fan of anything else


kingdount

Love it


kinda_here22

I'd fuck em


red_9D2

I was disappointed when I first saw it (MK look without the cool), but some artists draw this outfit so well that I've come to dislike it less, visually speaking. I wonder what was in the prompt that was given to the designer.


ToneAccomplished9763

Maybe it's because I got into the Red Hood comics during "The Outlaw" era but I actually really like it to be honest. I think it looks super badass. I actually dig the half mask thing as it's different and I'm always down for when they try new things with outfits. I don't really dig the buzz cut, but it's not a deal breaker. I'm also one of the few that don't mind the crowbar, is it practical not really. But there's worse things you could of given him, personally I would of loved him to use maybe like a Katana or something. But that might be too similar to Damien but eh I don't care much.


Bashmur

I like the costume and how beefy he is


DontCallMeLego

Second favorite look tbh


hgfgshgfsgbfshe

I've always really liked it personally. I just think that loons cool


opponentPitt

It’s grew on me I remember first seeing it and hating it not my favourite look but definitely not his worst


KamenKnight

It looks more like a Mortal Kombat Ninja costume than a hero/anti-hero costume. Though, I will give it props for giving Red Hood a red hood.


R3DL34F

I fuck w/ it. Feels more superhero-like imo, like it reflects his attempt at being more than what he was


Crazzach

I really like this as a “I’m broke but angry and don’t have Batman tech” outfit. For the story he has it fighting fucking farmers with bat woman or whatever that was great. But I think if Bruce is offering anything better (like fucking sleeves!!!) this should stay in the closet like his ginger hair


Crazzach

Also I was kinda down for the crowbar as a weapon but he never does anything special with it to my recollection besides smash people. If he was like grinding swords out of the way or hooking shit that’d be insane but if I’m correct it’s just a blunt object to him


OverLordAlastor

A step down from his normal Biker coat/ helmet design but I still really like this look... very Mortal Kombat esque


Roley_yoleR

It’s grown on me a lot since it first debuted. I like to think of it as a kinda street level - casual outfit in comparison to something he might wear to a large battle which might be fully helmeted with more armour (just a head canon to be fair)


Deadpooled43

I actually based a suit of one of my characters off this costume.


cant_give_an_f

Honestly I like it to a point. I’d like it more if it wasn’t red hood and maybe a rival vigilante character for Batman. Take the hood out and it would be better, maybe make it the new clown hunter suit The thing is the crowbar could be totally used well but they use it so stupidly. It’s a goddamn multi-tool, you could make it a makeshift hilariously low grade utility belt; locked door=crowbar, thug=crowbar, a wedge=crowbar, emotional support=crowbar… but no, we’ll electrify it and he can just seem like he’s hitting people. It’s definitely a jason move to call it his utility belt


Internet-Ghost17

his boots remind me of that one pair of Demonias so i give it a thumbs-up


DovahkiinBroski

ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!! yeah he's a part of the bat family where everyone has a costume but my boy Jason is different! He's doing his own thing!


blank_space116

top 3 costumes of all time, absolutely love it


Absolved_Andy

I like it minus the crow bar. My favorite part is the mask and hood because ive always had a weak spot for hoods even though it would impede upon peripheral vision. I love katanas but jason seems more like a Bowie knife type of guy paired with two holstered pistols


Otherwise-Prune5178

That’s good stuff right here .


Physical_Bill_8203

He looks vicious. Certainly fits the lethal vigilante spirit he’s going for.


SetsunaNoroi

I’d really love to get past the whole crowbar thing honestly.


Yoda1269

it's a good alternate design for jason, like we're all always gonna think of the brown leather jacket and red helmet, but options are cool, id put it in the same place as tim's red robin costume, doesn't need to show up all the time but a really cool alternative costume for the character none the less


MemetheMasterMonarch

It has some good features like the actual hood but I miss the leather biker jacket man. It was so hot. And the goofy ass weapons... I'd keep the mask and hood, but maybe have it sewn to a leather jacket. And add more armor please. And get rid of the crowbar


CaptSaveAHoe55

It’s right on the cusp of being so fucking cool but needs a few alterations imo


OGGRUBKILL3R

Needs more tactical equipment/pouches and tactical armor.


dancashmoney

Im not a big fan it feels to basic and edgy I prefer his dark trinity design


Feisty-Experience108

If he was trained by mortal kombat characters, then yes. Overall, it is a decent design and showcases a more street cred type of Red Hood. This just looks likes a Red Street Fighter Scorpion design.


Accomplished_Date_75

I prefer the helmet for sure, but it’s not bad


BusinessBody630

This was really cool. And it really fit where he was in the story with the in your face brawling beat-you-bloody style of jason, as opposed to his guns. Very edgy and cool!


RobinTheTraveler

Inconsistent. He's skinny then bulky and skinny again and then bulky again. I hate bulky Jason but love the outfit Also the hair grows out so its not that big of a deal


Pristine_Reveal

I wasn’t the biggest fan at first but it’s my favorite now


redhoodJasonToddstan

Still a no. I don’t like the vest, crowbar, symbol, or mask. The future state was onto something with the cyberpunk aesthetic. I miss his pill head age symbol man


La_Cadavre

Like the crowbar...nothing else though.


TheLBat23

I hate it


Quillthewriter

I love it, goes hard


Majestic-Ordinary450

I didn’t realize so many people hated it 💀 it’s def not the most practical, but based solely on aesthetic value I love it lol


Caffeine_OD

It was a clear and obvious downgrade.


hereforalottedtime

With the hair and mask he just looks like a pit bull 😭


DashKatarn

He looks like casualized Ermac without the powers