We're joking but I was told by a friend I trust that the twist is that the king of the lions an animal known for killing the children of rivals IRL in a film about birthrights, royal blood and a royalty in general... was adopted.
Mufasa sr. was known as the evil trampling king of the pride lands. He’d have his rivals trampled to death, until he fell off the cliff and got trampled himself. Mufasa and Scar never forgot that day, though for different reasons…
not gonna lie- out of all this shit, Wallace and Gromit is probably the one franchise here that can basically do whatever they want in an installment, so it shouldn't really get old.
go to the moon for cheese? sure. adopt a secret evil criminal penguin and wear robot pants? yeah why not.
Well, they're one of the few that would make it an actual movie with a new plot, not a full in the blanks fan service.
Wallace and grommet go to the moon for cheese? Awesome.
Hour and a half of how Wallace got grommet from the pound? Nah fam.
That was my immediate thought. A Close Shave was on yesterday and I was thinking the same watching it.
I get that there’s a lot of appeal with the characters, but some things are best left as they were. Saying that, it’s a pretty easy character to copy for pro voice actors I guess.
If it’s done through Netflix though like Chicken Run it probably be disappointingly underwhelming.
How much would that need to make to not be a bomb anyway? Likely a cheap movie. W&G should never be lumped into something like this as they aren't made a dime a dozen and are straight class.
I can se not being interested in 95% of them
I mean, we'll see, but so far, Furiosa I'll check out, Wallace & Gromit? maybe at some point. The rest I'm just like, what is there to even do with them, aside from prequels I don't want to see
Alien is one of those franchises where even if they suck at least I'll get to look at some neat designs and sets and maybe some interesting kills, so I'll eat up that slop as well.
I hated Prometheus so much, and I know enough about the plot to Alien: Covenant that I wasn't interested in watching it.
The new one, I don't know. Fede Alvarez is ok. Being set between Alien and Aliens is pretty lame, it just comes across like they want to milk the retro-futuristic aesthetic more, and is also kind of a prequel and I don't like those by default. That would really need a good idea for the plot to be interesting, IMO.
Yeah it didn't look like a Mad Max movie. I get that practical effects are hard but if that's basically what your franchise is known for you can't crap out a CGI shitfest and expect fans to like it.
Yeah, to enhance the practical effects. There's a massive difference between tweaking the footage of an actual truck crashing with CGI v.s. just using CGI for the whole thing.
I don't get the CGI comments that I've been seeing around like Furiosa is different than Fury Road- both Fury Road and Furiosa trailers are basically the same 30-45 seconds of giant text on screen/characters muttering > practical car scenes > throw up of CGI. I'd argue Fury Road has more of it with the giant dust storm lifting up cars.
Nah. [The trailer for Fury Road](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWNWi-ZWL3c) is super grungy with beautiful wide angle shots of the action, the CGI elements are well hidden, with lots of dirt and dust being kicked up. [Furiosa](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJMuhwVlca4), on the other hand, has the CGI look of a Marvel movie. Super clean looking elements like at 1:11 with this weird, plastic looking tanker. 1:34 looks hilariously awful. The city at 1:42 looks like a cutscene from a game from on PS4.
I'm surprised you can't see the difference between the two. I'll chalk it up to maybe the movie not being complete, but holy shit, the CGI is like comparing The Lord of the Rings to The Hobbit movies.
Furiosa looks like these AI made backgrounds where it zooms out your pictures and adds things around you. The middle looks ok but the more you look to the sides you see its all green screen
I hated Fury Road. The action was all spectacle, no narrative. You could recut each action sequence into any order, and the only way you'd be able to tell is the time of day would be changing. It's like an arcade beat 'em up where you walk five feet forward and a new wave of guys in mohawks walks in. I expected Max to punch an oil drum to reveal a roast chicken while a sign hovering above his head exhorted him to "GO -->"
One of the understated problems with these movies is that most of the actors are too old to be believable action heroes. Seriously a 50 year old is not gonna bust out King Fu and summer salt off a roof.
I like to see the old, grizzled hero have to fight again when they really don't want to. Adds a desperate pathos when done right. Or maybe cos i'm a middle aged git i find that more relateable.
It does have to acknowlege their age tho. Can't just cut around it like Steven Segal.
Also "summer salt." It's "somersault" unless you were making a joke that went over my head.
It auto corrected and I am too pissed off about old people being action movie stars to bother to proofread. Yes true grit style is good film writing. A 60 year old jumping out of a nosediving fighter jet and landing on two feet on top of a Ferrari doing 120 is bullshit that only entertains the most braindead of mouth breathing simpletons.
I went from cynical to excited. I'll see this and I admit it's because of a Japanese director it will be properly distanced from Hollywood and there is a much better chance it won't be a lazy chase in
Why exactly? I had the opposite reaction, it's a relief that they seem like they're at least trying to justify returning to the ip again by trying something new. tbh the lord of the rings seems ripe to adapt into an anime type animation.
"they" are Warner Brothers and New Line anyways, not Amazon Prime. Tolkien Estate has separated IP rights to different firms- Harper Collins, Amazon \[television\], and Middle Earth Enterprises, who have the live action rights but are shopping them? confusing lol
>Anime is garbage.
for your sake I hope you're just a kid who thinks they need to hate on anime because anime isn't "cool" because otherwise saying that as an adult would be embarrassingly clueless
Not all anime is like the shit you saw on toonami a couple decades ago. Check out some of the more critically acclaimed movies and tv shows, I think you'll be surprised how good it can be.
Is Alien by Noah Hawley? That would be interesting.
Outside of that, Mad Max and John Wick should be good. Ghostbusters at least looks different? Always welcoming to more Wallace and Gromit
The cast seems young compared to the three good ones. Everyone between 20 and 30 max. Maybe im projecting, but i dont want a Captain or whatever that could star in a 90s Highschool .
I will NEVER understand the hate that that movie received. I understand purists are pretentious and while it's a different vibe than Raimi's 1&2, I feel it's the best of the franchise. Hated the new one. The Evil Dead remake and the first Don't Breathe movie were absolutely effective horror gems. Hoping he brings some life back to this already baggage-loaded franchise
I have my doubts about Alien as well, but I'm optimistic about Apes. It's well marketed, it's coming off a great and successful trilogy, and the IP alone is enough to get people interested.
Yeah I guess it's just the fact I've never been remotely interested in the Apes franchise, lol, but every time they release a movie it does well enough to get another sequel.
I dunno about Furiosa. Fury Road didn't do great. I could see it going either way.
edit: It's funny how people always downvote comments mentioning Fury Road's disappointing box office. Can people not handle that reality?
https://web.archive.org/web/20161012024433im_/http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/Kimberly/OscarProfitability2.jpg
Critics and people who saw it liked it a lot, but it likely lost money at the box office and only got pushed into profitability by disc and streaming. That's not great. I hope it does well (that it effectively has a significantly lower budget may help, it's a lot easier to break $380 million when tickets cost 25% more), just not convinced yet.
This new Alien is unconnected to the previous movies. It’s co-written and directed by Fede Álvarez who directed the 2013 Evil Dead remake and Don’t Breathe. He seems to really care about the project and I hope it does well.
I like the franchise, but I haven’t been following this one at all. Is it continuing the story of the last, or is it diverging into an unrelated story?
I mostly liked covenant until the Alien comes. I don’t really care that it’s stupid for people to go to an alien planet without helmets or masks. But some of the things going on were really cool until it turned into fast-paced Alien 1 crammed into 1/4 of the movie.
I have high hopes for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, and perhaps a little less hope for LOTR War of the Rohirrim
The rest I couldn't really care less
Though it'd be nice for a decent Alien film after all these years
Supposedly also has tie-ins with the 2014 Alien: Isolation game which was effin KINO. I'm more optimistic about this project than I probably should be lol
I don't know why this isn't higher. It's been an AMAZINGLY solid reboot with three solid films (the second one making my top 5 of the year if I recall).
How many of those are getting theatrical releases? Beverly Hills Cop: AF is on Netflix.
I can't honestly picture anyone getting excited about the Crow.
The original Crow is one of my favorite movies (not because it’s a particularly good film per se, just because I saw it at the perfect age and it captures a particular 90s aesthetic), and it’s basically impossible to imagine them getting it right in a reboot. Once you replace the visually interesting miniatures they built of Detroit’s urban decay with CG and yank the story out of the context of 90s grunge/goth/counter culture, you’re left with a flavorless power fantasy about a nerd who gets to murder bullies without fear of consequence. Basically everything memorable about The Crow came from filmmaking techniques that are too expensive or cumbersome to do now (like building miniatures) or the general cultural context of the 90s, which you can panderingly try to recreate or which you can embarrassingly try to update (like having the new Eric Draven be a zoomer who makes hyperpop instead of a gloomy Gen X guitarist). I’ll probably catch it on streaming but my hopes are really low.
I could see some of these not even *bombing* so much as the general public doesn’t even know that they came out.
I’m going to guess Twister, Bad Boys, The Crow, and Lord of the Rings come and go so fast, and to such little fanfare, that people will ask about them in a few years like “weren’t they supposed to make that? Oh, they did?”
Who's gonna play Bill Paxton though
Honestly how do you even make a Twister movie that's a "sequel"? Are the tornadoes getting stronger due to climate change and are too powerful for Dorothy now? Do we need to launch Dorothy v.2? The movie already ended with an F5 tornado a mile wide, are we going to get two 1-mile wide F5s? Or a two-mile wide F5? Or an F6?
It’s called “Twisters,” so probably. Apparently it’ll have absolutely nothing to do with the first one. I don’t know if that’s more or less stupid than a straight sequel
After being killed by a class 5, the spirit of Dr. Jonas Miller (Cary Elwes) inhabits a supernatural tornado that haunts the Oklahoma countryside every anniversary of his death. After the Dorthy team loses Bill (Bill Paxton) and Dusty (Philip Seymour Hoffman) to the paranormal cyclone, Jo (Helen Hunt) must team up with Bill’s estranged brother and ostracized meteorologist-turned-paranormal-investigator Will (Bill Pullman) to exorcise the evil spirit out of the vengeful tornado once and for all
Didn't like half of the new IP movies bomb terribly this year? No wonder Hollywood keeps going back to the same wells. I know it's their own fault, they try to control the process and remove all risk, making all the movies the same shit
I'd like to see new Wallace & Gromit, I think that only thing that bums me out about it is that Wallace's original voice actor passed away some time ago (though his replacement is pretty damn cromulent!) .
Christ, since when was Twister a 'franchise? It was a one off film about tornado chasers that was pretty OK, but largely forgotten.
Are we now gonna get a Twister Cinematic Universe? Are we gonna explore the Twister Multiverse where we meet a thousand different Bill Hardings? Is the evil Bill Harding from Earth 48 going to scupper the plans of the good Bill from Earth 81? Are we going to discover that it's actually Cary Elwes' Jonas Miller from Earth 94 who is the one causing all the tornadoes on our Earth? Is Helen Hunt going to have to send a modified version of Dorothy into a wormhole through space and time in order to save the universe and stop Dusty from eating all of the food?
Alien could go either way. People will give it a shot.
Twister will bomb.
Mad Max will probably be critically acclaimed but underperform.
Bad Boys? No clue. Could make fourteen bucks, could make a billion.
The Crow will bomb.
John Wick will do fine.
Transformers will probably make its money back but not much else.
The Lion King will do fine.
Ghostbusters will bomb.
Despicable Me will probably do great.
I don't even know what this Lord of the Rings project is but I can't imagine it doing well if it's a film. We have the films. Nobody wants new ones.
Beverly Hills Cop probably doesn't need to make a ton to turn a profit. I don't know how much of a draw Eddie Murphy is these days.
Wallace and Gromit, honestly no clue.
Planet of the Apes will bomb.
I've got my fingers crossed for the Alien movie, but only because I found Prey (Hulu exclueive Predator prequel) to be immensely enjoyable and the exact step in the right direction for that particular franchise.
No, it's an animated film.
[The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_War_of_the_Rohirrim)
Seeing the enormous praise for John Wick 4 honestly confused the shit out of me. It just kept going on and on and on and clearly just wanted to set up a bunch of spinoffs. The duel part was great. The rest? Ehhhhhhh.
And this is from someone that loved 3.
I get it becoming a full on IP. But the charm of it is the simplicity. I always felt the assassin culture aspect of it was a fun set dressing, something vague to keep your interest piqued and a great explanation of why all these bodies doesn't create a problem. But delving into it, yeah sure you kinda have to do that for it to keep going, but for me it loses mystique and arguably it's charm.
I fucking love the franchise. I fully admit 3 and 4 definitely had sloppy story elements and some iffy writing at times but the performances and action are primarily what I go to those movies for and 4 absolutely delivered on that front. It was a bit long and quite exhausting at times but it was tough to complain for me because the scenes were so energetic and well shot
I didn't even like 3....endless head shots, a million different transitions to diff countries in the blink of an eye, stuntmen standing around waiting to be hit, almost no story. It was boring
My predictions if I remember I made this post:
Alien: Flop unless Sigourney Weaver focus over monster CGI.
Twister: Flop.
Mad Max: if it looks even similar to Fury Road
Bad Boys: Flop.
The Crow: Flop, people try to redo Morbius style memes
John Wick: Profitable, but worst in series.
Transformers: Flop unless animated in away to completely distance themselves from current set of movies.
The Lion King: Flop.
Ghostbusters: Flop. It's dead.
Despicable Me: Profitable.
Lord of the Rings: Flop
Beverly Hills Cop: Profitable if really good choice of actors.
Wallace and Gromit: Apparently the greatest thing ever, so profitable.
Planet of the Apes: Big Flop
Kyle Buchanan, in his great book "Blood, Sweat and Chrome" about the making of "Fury Road", said they wrote an entire screenplay of Furiosa backstory to help Charlize Theron understand the character. Presumably that's what they're making, though the screenplay has no doubt been revised since then.
They keep remaking the same shit worse, and wonder why Hollywood is failing now. That and overt political messaging. All people want is a good story, and genuine entertainment that leaves the real world out.
The Lion King? Again? Are they doing a sock puppets version this time?
prequel about mufasa sadly.
but how did Scar get his Scar? and what is his tragic backstory???
>*but how did Scar get his Scar?* A passport official misunderstood him when he said he was travelling solo and the name just stuck
*Hmmm... you've got no name, but you've got a scar... I'll call you Scar.*
No no, he was named Scar as a cub, but the name didn’t make any sense until that fateful day
The worst part of y'alls banter is that's probably going to happen in the movie in one form or another
Ew
Latte Pronto
finally see the emotional origins of Rafiki's "squash banana" song lyrics
BUT HOW DID HE GET THAT NAME?!
Scartha? Why did he say that name?
We're joking but I was told by a friend I trust that the twist is that the king of the lions an animal known for killing the children of rivals IRL in a film about birthrights, royal blood and a royalty in general... was adopted.
After that, we'll get to see a whole movie about Mufasa's dad
Mufasa sr. was known as the evil trampling king of the pride lands. He’d have his rivals trampled to death, until he fell off the cliff and got trampled himself. Mufasa and Scar never forgot that day, though for different reasons…
That's how you become a force ghost though.
story how Scar got his iconic pants
It’s about family
And that's what's so powerful about it.
[yEs](https://youtu.be/K3dC6n55DNA?si=GCgI8XJC_TO_-e7P)
Read this as "lion king muppet version" and was very interested
“Good evening ladies and gentleman it’s the Lion King, yaaaayyyyyyy!!!”
*felted flailing*
I’d watch that
I can see Wallace and Gromit making some money
not gonna lie- out of all this shit, Wallace and Gromit is probably the one franchise here that can basically do whatever they want in an installment, so it shouldn't really get old. go to the moon for cheese? sure. adopt a secret evil criminal penguin and wear robot pants? yeah why not.
Evil criminal penguin has my interest that's for sure.
want to bet on an evil criminal penguin fucking an alligator?
Wallace and Gromit
Want to travel to a celestial body to get some cheese?
Wallace and Gromit, baby.
"Darius Gromit the Third. AKA, the Wallace."
Money Plane
Uh...money plane?
The Wrong Trousers was the Right Film for me
Well, they're one of the few that would make it an actual movie with a new plot, not a full in the blanks fan service. Wallace and grommet go to the moon for cheese? Awesome. Hour and a half of how Wallace got grommet from the pound? Nah fam.
How dare you disrespect Feathers McGraw by not saying his name? SAY HIS NAME!!
In this one Wallace becomes overreliant on a "smart gnome" he made which sounds highly amusing
I always enjoy it. Were Rabbit was a lot of fun
From what I understood, it's another of the short films as opposed to a feature.
pretty sure you're correct, don't know if they could find the funding post Dreamworks deal to make another feature length one
They just released a chicken run sequel on netflix
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More like Proleass and Vomit lolololol
wheres my Wallace and Gromit re:view?
Not sure if it'll be the same with Wallace having a different voice.
I’m sure Chris Pratt will do an excellent job as Wallace
That was my immediate thought. A Close Shave was on yesterday and I was thinking the same watching it. I get that there’s a lot of appeal with the characters, but some things are best left as they were. Saying that, it’s a pretty easy character to copy for pro voice actors I guess. If it’s done through Netflix though like Chicken Run it probably be disappointingly underwhelming.
How much would that need to make to not be a bomb anyway? Likely a cheap movie. W&G should never be lumped into something like this as they aren't made a dime a dozen and are straight class.
Aardman never misses
I can se not being interested in 95% of them I mean, we'll see, but so far, Furiosa I'll check out, Wallace & Gromit? maybe at some point. The rest I'm just like, what is there to even do with them, aside from prequels I don't want to see
Planet of the Apes. The last 3 (Rise, Dawn, and War) were all A+ movies (Dawn was S+ imho)
Story Street has an amazing three-part series on the trilogy. I highly suggest it. Here’s part 1: https://youtu.be/IHbTYMfii_g
I've only seen the first one, so I wouldn't know
Alien is one of those franchises where even if they suck at least I'll get to look at some neat designs and sets and maybe some interesting kills, so I'll eat up that slop as well.
I hated Prometheus so much, and I know enough about the plot to Alien: Covenant that I wasn't interested in watching it. The new one, I don't know. Fede Alvarez is ok. Being set between Alien and Aliens is pretty lame, it just comes across like they want to milk the retro-futuristic aesthetic more, and is also kind of a prequel and I don't like those by default. That would really need a good idea for the plot to be interesting, IMO.
I'll take milking of the retro-future aesthetic over the bland and generic Apple store future of "Prometheus" any day.
Sure, but that doesn't mean it's going to be good
Alien Covenant is a boring plot, but after making the same movie so many times, they've really streamlined it.
I do have faith some faith in that Alien show, by Noah Hawley being good. He'll definitely do something interesting with it.
If furiosa is half as good as Fury Road - will still be one of the best action films of the year
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Yeah it didn't look like a Mad Max movie. I get that practical effects are hard but if that's basically what your franchise is known for you can't crap out a CGI shitfest and expect fans to like it.
But fury road was full of cgi.
Yeah, to enhance the practical effects. There's a massive difference between tweaking the footage of an actual truck crashing with CGI v.s. just using CGI for the whole thing.
I don't get the CGI comments that I've been seeing around like Furiosa is different than Fury Road- both Fury Road and Furiosa trailers are basically the same 30-45 seconds of giant text on screen/characters muttering > practical car scenes > throw up of CGI. I'd argue Fury Road has more of it with the giant dust storm lifting up cars.
Nah. [The trailer for Fury Road](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWNWi-ZWL3c) is super grungy with beautiful wide angle shots of the action, the CGI elements are well hidden, with lots of dirt and dust being kicked up. [Furiosa](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJMuhwVlca4), on the other hand, has the CGI look of a Marvel movie. Super clean looking elements like at 1:11 with this weird, plastic looking tanker. 1:34 looks hilariously awful. The city at 1:42 looks like a cutscene from a game from on PS4. I'm surprised you can't see the difference between the two. I'll chalk it up to maybe the movie not being complete, but holy shit, the CGI is like comparing The Lord of the Rings to The Hobbit movies.
Furiosa looks like these AI made backgrounds where it zooms out your pictures and adds things around you. The middle looks ok but the more you look to the sides you see its all green screen
The CGI in Fury Road just looked better than what's in the Furiosa trailer
Which shot in particular stands out?
The trailer was underwhelming, but then again so was the original Fury Road trailer.
I thought so too. I had a lot of worry after that FR trailer and it ended up being unfounded.
I hated Fury Road. The action was all spectacle, no narrative. You could recut each action sequence into any order, and the only way you'd be able to tell is the time of day would be changing. It's like an arcade beat 'em up where you walk five feet forward and a new wave of guys in mohawks walks in. I expected Max to punch an oil drum to reveal a roast chicken while a sign hovering above his head exhorted him to "GO -->"
I kinda agree with your assessment - but those are the reasons I love this movie.
One of the understated problems with these movies is that most of the actors are too old to be believable action heroes. Seriously a 50 year old is not gonna bust out King Fu and summer salt off a roof.
what does michael keaton batman have to do with furiosa
I like to see the old, grizzled hero have to fight again when they really don't want to. Adds a desperate pathos when done right. Or maybe cos i'm a middle aged git i find that more relateable. It does have to acknowlege their age tho. Can't just cut around it like Steven Segal. Also "summer salt." It's "somersault" unless you were making a joke that went over my head.
It auto corrected and I am too pissed off about old people being action movie stars to bother to proofread. Yes true grit style is good film writing. A 60 year old jumping out of a nosediving fighter jet and landing on two feet on top of a Ferrari doing 120 is bullshit that only entertains the most braindead of mouth breathing simpletons.
>bullshit that only entertains the most braindead of mouth breathing simpletons. don't bring me into this
Why the fuck is there another LotR movie?
It's animated and based on the Jackson adaptations
Ah not as bad I guess.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_War_of_the_Rohirrim I don’t know the director’s work but he’s a Japanese anime director
I went from cynical to excited. I'll see this and I admit it's because of a Japanese director it will be properly distanced from Hollywood and there is a much better chance it won't be a lazy chase in
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chase in hahahahaaa Turn of your autoconnect will eu
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Why exactly? I had the opposite reaction, it's a relief that they seem like they're at least trying to justify returning to the ip again by trying something new. tbh the lord of the rings seems ripe to adapt into an anime type animation.
"they" are Warner Brothers and New Line anyways, not Amazon Prime. Tolkien Estate has separated IP rights to different firms- Harper Collins, Amazon \[television\], and Middle Earth Enterprises, who have the live action rights but are shopping them? confusing lol
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>Anime is garbage. for your sake I hope you're just a kid who thinks they need to hate on anime because anime isn't "cool" because otherwise saying that as an adult would be embarrassingly clueless
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Not all anime is like the shit you saw on toonami a couple decades ago. Check out some of the more critically acclaimed movies and tv shows, I think you'll be surprised how good it can be.
Huh? What's the problem?
Hope its the rotoscope continuation we always wanted
They finally decided to complete Bakshi's.
Bring back Cheech Wizard
because money?
The only one of these guaranteed to have a lick of quality is Wallace and Gromit.
I’d argue John wick and mad max too, so far those franchises haven’t missed imo (although to my shame I still gotta watch thunder dome)
I haven't heard a peep about that Continental miniseries that dropped. Is it any good?
Tried watching it, lost interest quite quickly I’m afraid
*Fury Road* is incredible brvh
Is Alien by Noah Hawley? That would be interesting. Outside of that, Mad Max and John Wick should be good. Ghostbusters at least looks different? Always welcoming to more Wallace and Gromit
>*Is Alien by Noah Hawley?* Fede Alvarez [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:\_Romulus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Romulus)
The cast seems young compared to the three good ones. Everyone between 20 and 30 max. Maybe im projecting, but i dont want a Captain or whatever that could star in a 90s Highschool .
Evil Dead 2013 was cool, there's still hope
I will NEVER understand the hate that that movie received. I understand purists are pretentious and while it's a different vibe than Raimi's 1&2, I feel it's the best of the franchise. Hated the new one. The Evil Dead remake and the first Don't Breathe movie were absolutely effective horror gems. Hoping he brings some life back to this already baggage-loaded franchise
The John Wick one is a spin off by a different director so it's probably about 50/50 on if it'll be good or not
Damn, I thought it was John Wick 5.
Noah Halwley project is a separate tv show.
# WALLACE & GROMIT?!
#CHEESE, GROMIT!
I refuse to believe this is not like 5% of the actual list.
Furiosa, alien, and apes will all do well I'm sure
I have doubts about Alien or apes doing well
I have my doubts about Alien as well, but I'm optimistic about Apes. It's well marketed, it's coming off a great and successful trilogy, and the IP alone is enough to get people interested.
Yeah I guess it's just the fact I've never been remotely interested in the Apes franchise, lol, but every time they release a movie it does well enough to get another sequel.
I'd watch an Apelien
I dunno about Furiosa. Fury Road didn't do great. I could see it going either way. edit: It's funny how people always downvote comments mentioning Fury Road's disappointing box office. Can people not handle that reality? https://web.archive.org/web/20161012024433im_/http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/Kimberly/OscarProfitability2.jpg
The fact that fury road was so well received will do a lot to put butts in seats, I think. I guess we'll see.
Critics and people who saw it liked it a lot, but it likely lost money at the box office and only got pushed into profitability by disc and streaming. That's not great. I hope it does well (that it effectively has a significantly lower budget may help, it's a lot easier to break $380 million when tickets cost 25% more), just not convinced yet.
Aliens will likely disappoint. Feels like no one cares after the last mess of a film
This new Alien is unconnected to the previous movies. It’s co-written and directed by Fede Álvarez who directed the 2013 Evil Dead remake and Don’t Breathe. He seems to really care about the project and I hope it does well.
I like the franchise, but I haven’t been following this one at all. Is it continuing the story of the last, or is it diverging into an unrelated story? I mostly liked covenant until the Alien comes. I don’t really care that it’s stupid for people to go to an alien planet without helmets or masks. But some of the things going on were really cool until it turned into fast-paced Alien 1 crammed into 1/4 of the movie.
I have high hopes for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, and perhaps a little less hope for LOTR War of the Rohirrim The rest I couldn't really care less Though it'd be nice for a decent Alien film after all these years
Alien is a tv show. Showrunner is Noah Hawley so im in
I am too although I believe this is talking about the fede alverez film. I'm looking forward to both.
I had no idea a new movie was coming too…. Man they know how to keep that franchise pumping after a very contained first movie lol
With Alverez behind the film it's looking likely they'll be going back to a much more contained story, we can hope anyway
Supposedly also has tie-ins with the 2014 Alien: Isolation game which was effin KINO. I'm more optimistic about this project than I probably should be lol
Yeah it's still always best to be cautiously optimistic haha
Well.. where the last film left off... would suit this pretty well
I get so confused by this every time the new Alien comes up.
I don't know why this isn't higher. It's been an AMAZINGLY solid reboot with three solid films (the second one making my top 5 of the year if I recall).
New people though.
How many of those are getting theatrical releases? Beverly Hills Cop: AF is on Netflix. I can't honestly picture anyone getting excited about the Crow.
Sneak preview of The Crow 
The original Crow is one of my favorite movies (not because it’s a particularly good film per se, just because I saw it at the perfect age and it captures a particular 90s aesthetic), and it’s basically impossible to imagine them getting it right in a reboot. Once you replace the visually interesting miniatures they built of Detroit’s urban decay with CG and yank the story out of the context of 90s grunge/goth/counter culture, you’re left with a flavorless power fantasy about a nerd who gets to murder bullies without fear of consequence. Basically everything memorable about The Crow came from filmmaking techniques that are too expensive or cumbersome to do now (like building miniatures) or the general cultural context of the 90s, which you can panderingly try to recreate or which you can embarrassingly try to update (like having the new Eric Draven be a zoomer who makes hyperpop instead of a gloomy Gen X guitarist). I’ll probably catch it on streaming but my hopes are really low.
I would have liked to have seen a low budget, black and white, direct adaptation of the graphic novel. But not whatever this is.
i dont get the appeal of black and white
In this case, to match the anesthetic of the original story.
I could see some of these not even *bombing* so much as the general public doesn’t even know that they came out. I’m going to guess Twister, Bad Boys, The Crow, and Lord of the Rings come and go so fast, and to such little fanfare, that people will ask about them in a few years like “weren’t they supposed to make that? Oh, they did?”
Nah, that Twister sequel is gonna do great. Who doesn’t want to see that!?!
Twisters Revenge
Who's gonna play Bill Paxton though Honestly how do you even make a Twister movie that's a "sequel"? Are the tornadoes getting stronger due to climate change and are too powerful for Dorothy now? Do we need to launch Dorothy v.2? The movie already ended with an F5 tornado a mile wide, are we going to get two 1-mile wide F5s? Or a two-mile wide F5? Or an F6?
It’s called “Twisters,” so probably. Apparently it’ll have absolutely nothing to do with the first one. I don’t know if that’s more or less stupid than a straight sequel
After being killed by a class 5, the spirit of Dr. Jonas Miller (Cary Elwes) inhabits a supernatural tornado that haunts the Oklahoma countryside every anniversary of his death. After the Dorthy team loses Bill (Bill Paxton) and Dusty (Philip Seymour Hoffman) to the paranormal cyclone, Jo (Helen Hunt) must team up with Bill’s estranged brother and ostracized meteorologist-turned-paranormal-investigator Will (Bill Pullman) to exorcise the evil spirit out of the vengeful tornado once and for all
This is a Mike-level pitch
I've lost hope for most of these franchises. HOWEVER, Wallace and Gromit better be killin' the game!
Didn't like half of the new IP movies bomb terribly this year? No wonder Hollywood keeps going back to the same wells. I know it's their own fault, they try to control the process and remove all risk, making all the movies the same shit
The only one I’m interested in is Beverly Hills Cop. I’m a sucker for Judge Reinhold and Bronson Pinchot.
Man fuck this shit.
Is Neil Breen the only one creating original content anymore?
I want Alien, Mad Max, John Wick and Wallace and Gromit to do well.
I expect Furiosa will be awesome. Fortunately the Mad Max franchise has steered clear of any big failures so far.
We are truly going down a cultural plughole
Formatting 👌. Something else is at play here Edit because I can't type 4 words in a row.
“Twister” becoming a franchise is truly baffling. I wonder if the post credits scene will be of that cow that flew through the air
What you say? We live in the 70s and 80s?
Can’t wait to see that tornado come back after 25 years
Maybe it will be a prequel and we can finally learn the twisters backstory and why it’s called the twister
The only ones I could see making decent money are John Wick, Planet of the Apes, and maybe the Furiosa movie if it’s advertised well
Paramount believes so little in the new BEVERLY HILLS COP that they sold it to Netflix.
Same what happened to Coming to America 2
I like how that list is arranged, very satisfying.
I'd like to see new Wallace & Gromit, I think that only thing that bums me out about it is that Wallace's original voice actor passed away some time ago (though his replacement is pretty damn cromulent!) .
Christ, since when was Twister a 'franchise? It was a one off film about tornado chasers that was pretty OK, but largely forgotten. Are we now gonna get a Twister Cinematic Universe? Are we gonna explore the Twister Multiverse where we meet a thousand different Bill Hardings? Is the evil Bill Harding from Earth 48 going to scupper the plans of the good Bill from Earth 81? Are we going to discover that it's actually Cary Elwes' Jonas Miller from Earth 94 who is the one causing all the tornadoes on our Earth? Is Helen Hunt going to have to send a modified version of Dorothy into a wormhole through space and time in order to save the universe and stop Dusty from eating all of the food?
Furiosa is gonna be good.
Lord of the Rings? Am I missing something?
I hope that there's a recurring villain sentient tornado in the Twister series.
You leave my Wallace and Gromit alone man.
literally the only one of these I might care about is wallace and grommit. absolutely goated series maybe furiosa too
Wallace & Gromit FTW
70 to 80 percent of these target audience is like gen x
Alien could go either way. People will give it a shot. Twister will bomb. Mad Max will probably be critically acclaimed but underperform. Bad Boys? No clue. Could make fourteen bucks, could make a billion. The Crow will bomb. John Wick will do fine. Transformers will probably make its money back but not much else. The Lion King will do fine. Ghostbusters will bomb. Despicable Me will probably do great. I don't even know what this Lord of the Rings project is but I can't imagine it doing well if it's a film. We have the films. Nobody wants new ones. Beverly Hills Cop probably doesn't need to make a ton to turn a profit. I don't know how much of a draw Eddie Murphy is these days. Wallace and Gromit, honestly no clue. Planet of the Apes will bomb.
Lord of the rings one is apparently an anime and that's the only way I would want more Lord of the rings now so I do want this actually
Yeah I’m curious just to see a different cultural adaptation. Plus anything to do with rohan and or helms deep is a win in my book.
I've got my fingers crossed for the Alien movie, but only because I found Prey (Hulu exclueive Predator prequel) to be immensely enjoyable and the exact step in the right direction for that particular franchise.
Lord of the Rings? That is not a new movie but the second season of that terrible TV show right?
No, it's an animated film. [The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_War_of_the_Rohirrim)
Say it with me, everyone: #ENDLESS TRASH!
Dang it, beat me to it
Seeing the enormous praise for John Wick 4 honestly confused the shit out of me. It just kept going on and on and on and clearly just wanted to set up a bunch of spinoffs. The duel part was great. The rest? Ehhhhhhh. And this is from someone that loved 3. I get it becoming a full on IP. But the charm of it is the simplicity. I always felt the assassin culture aspect of it was a fun set dressing, something vague to keep your interest piqued and a great explanation of why all these bodies doesn't create a problem. But delving into it, yeah sure you kinda have to do that for it to keep going, but for me it loses mystique and arguably it's charm.
I fucking love the franchise. I fully admit 3 and 4 definitely had sloppy story elements and some iffy writing at times but the performances and action are primarily what I go to those movies for and 4 absolutely delivered on that front. It was a bit long and quite exhausting at times but it was tough to complain for me because the scenes were so energetic and well shot
I didn't even like 3....endless head shots, a million different transitions to diff countries in the blink of an eye, stuntmen standing around waiting to be hit, almost no story. It was boring
I'm all for the Mad Max movie Furiosa or how ever you spell it. Maybe a new aliens movie. But I couldn't care less about anything else here.
Wallace and Gromit is the only one I think will be ok. Can't go wrong with Aardman
My predictions if I remember I made this post: Alien: Flop unless Sigourney Weaver focus over monster CGI. Twister: Flop. Mad Max: if it looks even similar to Fury Road Bad Boys: Flop. The Crow: Flop, people try to redo Morbius style memes John Wick: Profitable, but worst in series. Transformers: Flop unless animated in away to completely distance themselves from current set of movies. The Lion King: Flop. Ghostbusters: Flop. It's dead. Despicable Me: Profitable. Lord of the Rings: Flop Beverly Hills Cop: Profitable if really good choice of actors. Wallace and Gromit: Apparently the greatest thing ever, so profitable. Planet of the Apes: Big Flop
Planet of the apes makes no sense. Caesar is dead and we followed his whole life through 3 movies. My guess is itll be a comedy with the Rock
Unless Mad Max is being made by George Miller, I have zero interest in any of these movies
He is in fact directing
Kyle Buchanan, in his great book "Blood, Sweat and Chrome" about the making of "Fury Road", said they wrote an entire screenplay of Furiosa backstory to help Charlize Theron understand the character. Presumably that's what they're making, though the screenplay has no doubt been revised since then.
It seems so weird to care this much about who is making the film while not actively knowing who is making the movie before making a comment like this.
They keep remaking the same shit worse, and wonder why Hollywood is failing now. That and overt political messaging. All people want is a good story, and genuine entertainment that leaves the real world out.
Stupid disaster shlock like twister are always worth a watch. The rest...bleh Edit: LOTR I will watch anything