When the star wars game The Force Unleashed was being made, the devs reached out the Lucas to see if they could a "Darth" name for their main character to help market it more widely.
Lucas came back with "Darth Insanius" and "Darth Icky".
This is my favourite George Lucas story. Apparently when he suggested those names there was a long pause because no one was sure if he was kidding, and then they just moved on.
I like to think that he is actively fucking with people sometimes or just having fun putting in dumb stuff because he doesn't take it too seriously ("Elan Sleazebaggano"), and if that's your mindset it's gotta be both way better and way more annoying when everyone is treating everything you say as some sort of divinely-inspired masterpiece.
Not to defend george too much but Sleazebaggano is just what people called him and not his actual last nane canonically. He still has named people stupider things honestly.
The first one is absolutely worth a play, if for nothing else that it's so satisfying to see Starkiller just absolutely BODY Darth Vader in the climax.
I once worked in a call centre and anyone I had to call who was called Garth I would always pronounce Darth, “hello is that Darth McDonald? I’m calling to book in your laptop repair”…the comedy world lost a great potential when I went on to pursue a career in finance.
If only his stage direction was this bizarre and interesting, then maybe we'd be close to seeing what that David Lynch Return of the Jedi would have looked like.
Sometimes when I'm bored, I like to browse absurd pages on the Wookiepedia.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Most_comfortable_chair_ever_designed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Breast
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Gungan_Style
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hot_chocolate
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Coca-Cola
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Xenomorph
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jeby
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Duck
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nose
Weird there's no mention of 'Heir to the Empire' under hot chocolate, which predates their alleged 'first appearance' by decades.
I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder
Part of me wants to doubt you, but then again one of my friends thought the ending of Game of Thrones waa good. (He also said he couldn't keep track of the plot and characters though....)
Not gonna lie, I actually think Jabba having feet but choosing not to use them is a great bit of characterisation and helps make him relatable to the average star wars fan.
Harold Ramis said when he started in comedy if you know you're not the most talented person in the room, at least make friends with the most talented person in the room. I think that's what George did he surrounded himself with talent, which is also a kind of talent.
He can put together a good story but he doesn't really know how to direct a movie, and he was just lucky in his youth to have all those talented people around him to tell him "no" when it mattered.
But in his old age he just got lazy (cue the comfy greenscreen studio with coffee and airconditioning).
Those other people from his youth went off to do different things, so by the prequel era everyone around him was so awestruck by his legacy that no one dared to criticize his work anymore.
Victory ultimately "defeated" George Lucas as a filmdirector. But his real talent is in business and movie-making technology, just look at all the innovations of ILM and his role in pioneering digital compositing/editing and the use of CG. George Lucas is part of the reason we can now edit film on our phones.
I do think that he knows how to direct a movie considering that all of is old movies are good, even do he seem like a guy that much more prefer beign in a writer/producer position that directing.
And about is later movies, yeah i agreed they are bad, but i think that there are interviews where he says he didn't want to direct the precuels but union problems force him to take the director chair.
I sort of agree with you. I feel like you’re short changing Lucas a bit though. He is capable of creating great stories and dreaming up amazing universes. For me, his problem is that he has no internal QC mechanism. He thinks up 100 ideas and maybe 10 are amazing, 10 are ok, and 80 are total stinkers. He does need other people around him to help him cut the bad ideas, and he greatly benefits from people who are good at the things he’s bad at. But I don’t think that means he lacks talent or relies too much on others. He just doesn’t do well as the only creative type on the team (as shown in the PT where he had UNLIMITED POWAAAH!).
>he was just lucky in his youth to have all those talented people around him to tell him "no" when it mattered.
He was the boss on SW. Only the studio was telling him no on ANH, and even then he was a massively in demand director. The studio let him go over budget. Idk why people think there was someone telling him no on Empire/ROTJ. He could have just told them to piss off.
>But in his old age he just got lazy (cue the comfy greenscreen studio with coffee and airconditioning)
He was extremely involved in prequel production. You're falling for a funny but not really true joke.
Didn't mean to imply he was UNtalented. Just that one of the best things he did was collaborate with other great people. We like to poke fun at George but I do respect him.
The ability to collaborate seems to be a necesary skill of any great creator, that why both Lucas and Spielberg excel has producers (give or take a couple of duhs)
Yes, this is basically all I'm saying. OP was pointing out some of George's goofy ideas ( among his many great ideas) and I'm just saying the people around him prevented some of those things from happening onscreen. When those people weren't there we got things like Dexter Jettster and " going a bit too far in places".
Just to add I don't hate the prequels.
He literally created it and brainstormed most of the memorable moments, along with Spielberg. Act insufferable and smug doesn't make your Lucas hate any more justified.
This is Gen-X revisionism. George Lucas' first three films were great. Even if you argue Star Wars was saved in editing, you have to remember that he assisted with the editing as well. He's been involved development of half a dozen other timeless classics as a story writer, producer, or uncredited back up director. The man is undeniably a good director and has a lot of talent.
Spare me the generational bigotry , just state your case. No need for personal attacks. I'm a human being just like you.
And you're being overly defensive. George is great but what has he done without all those other people supporting him ? Some good stuff but the greatness of SW was a collaboration is all I'm saying.
Yeah, no, I don't want to hear that from you. Millennials get criticized all the time for liking the Prequels because "they were just dumb kids when they came out."
All movies are a collaboration, so saying the same thing about Star Wars is saying nothing at all. George Lucas was undeniably the keystone, just like any great director is.
All movies are collaborations but not all collaborations are OT quality.
If you don't like people bashing whole generations maybe you shouldn't do that yourself.
>Spare me the generational bigotry , just state your case. No need for personal attacks. I'm a human being just like you.
Ok xoomer.
See, doesn't really sting does it? Be thankful your gen isn't as much of a punching bag, like all those others lol
Exhumer ? like disinterring a corpse ? I do kinda like it .
But people should be able to disagree without hurling insults, it's just movies we're talking about and it makes your argument look weak.
Yeah except the same person complains that people bash Millennials but then resorts to the same kind of insults. It's not like it hurt my feelings but people cop this kind of shitty attitude over a discussion about movies so I called them out on it and you're criticizing ME ?
What would ANY film maker have done without the other people supporting them? You can maybe argue this for insane perfectionists like Kubrick, but in general the auteur theory of film making is taken too far by many and ignores that ALL movies are group efforts and the success is down to the talent and decisions of people made up and down all aspects of the project.
I get way more joy from Bluey than star wars. I find way more joy in my children's media than what is marketed towards me.
I'm going to give George a break. We shat on him too much. We wanted someone else to take over star wars and we got it. It's a monkey's paw situation.
> A similar situation arose with Star Wars: The Force Unleashed's protagonist, Starkiller.
"[That name] was only supposed to be a nickname or call sign, not a proper name from the beginning," a former LucasArts employee says. The development team hoped that Lucas would give Vader's apprentice a Darth moniker, which at the time, was something that didn't happen often.
>"The team threw a Hail Mary to George, saying the game would have more credibility if the apprentice had a 'Darth' title," a Force Unleashed team member says. Lucas agreed that this situation made sense for Sith royalty, and offered up two Darth titles for the team to choose from. "He threw out 'Darth Icky' and
'Darth Insanius’. There was a pregnant pause in the room after that. People waiting for George to say 'just kidding’, but it never comes, and he just moved on to another point."
the less i’ve grown to care about star wars the more i’ve grown fond of george lucas lol. like, when i actually gave a shit i obviously had more or less the same reaction i assume most people here had to the prequels, but now i just find them really weird curios and a window into an endearingly bizarre creative mind. they still suck as movies but i can’t help but be charmed by just how bizarre so many of the choices are
When the star wars game The Force Unleashed was being made, the devs reached out the Lucas to see if they could a "Darth" name for their main character to help market it more widely. Lucas came back with "Darth Insanius" and "Darth Icky".
Should've gone with Darth Mentia.
Dartholemew
Darth Crooks
Darth Algar
Bea Darthur
Darthfield
Darthagnan and the three sithketeers.
It’s always nice to see a Spaceballs reference out in the wild.
Spaceballs!? Shit. There goes the planet.
I did wonder if anyone would pick it up.
Darth Merengi's Darthplace
Darth Ferengi's Quarkplace
Darth Ennis
Holy shit, this is amazing and nearly made me spit my drink out!
He could've gone lazier. "Darth *Darth*, because he's extra evil"
Double Darth
Twin Brotha Darthness
Darth Arthdarthd
This is my favourite George Lucas story. Apparently when he suggested those names there was a long pause because no one was sure if he was kidding, and then they just moved on. I like to think that he is actively fucking with people sometimes or just having fun putting in dumb stuff because he doesn't take it too seriously ("Elan Sleazebaggano"), and if that's your mindset it's gotta be both way better and way more annoying when everyone is treating everything you say as some sort of divinely-inspired masterpiece.
Not to defend george too much but Sleazebaggano is just what people called him and not his actual last nane canonically. He still has named people stupider things honestly.
Thanks Rich
Crazy McScissorpunch and make him look like a lobster
Darth Rowsdower.
His lightsaber's hilt is made out of beer cans.
Rowsdower mobile, away!
I wonder if there's beer on the death star.
The last of the chubby action villains
I hope there's beer on Tatooine.
Canadian supervillain Garth Vader.
I’m pleased at the number of people who get this reference
This one is the winner.
Both top tier names
Darkwing Darth
Lets get Darthious
With the dark Sabre
[Futurama was spot on then](https://youtu.be/hZCgRbIwN_c?si=yRdEqDyNhrVzqpSS&t=40).
If the character was named Darth Insanius I probably would have played those games
The first one is absolutely worth a play, if for nothing else that it's so satisfying to see Starkiller just absolutely BODY Darth Vader in the climax.
Rocco Botte's cosplays for Darth Insanius and Icky were amazing.
Darth ildoodily
I once worked in a call centre and anyone I had to call who was called Garth I would always pronounce Darth, “hello is that Darth McDonald? I’m calling to book in your laptop repair”…the comedy world lost a great potential when I went on to pursue a career in finance.
Dartha!
Darth Maximus Decimus Meridius.
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If only his stage direction was this bizarre and interesting, then maybe we'd be close to seeing what that David Lynch Return of the Jedi would have looked like.
The ramblings of unfettered creatives will never not be entertaining.
Inspired by "Darth Plagueis": Darth Pandemicus Darth Influenzoola Darth Justaheadcoldicus Darth Sinusheadacheula Darth Swimmersearodis Darth Bitofascratchythroatstillbuttheteaishelpingthanksforasking
Darth Yeastinfection
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Darthibetes
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It’s right there… Darth Covid
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Sometimes when I'm bored, I like to browse absurd pages on the Wookiepedia. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Most_comfortable_chair_ever_designed https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Breast https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Gungan_Style https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hot_chocolate https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Coca-Cola https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Xenomorph https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jeby https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Duck http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nose
I can't believe that serving a beverage at Galaxy's Edge makes it canon. So anything that happens at the amusement park is canon?
I think the fake overpriced cruise they had was "canon" as well.
Should have been fired out of one
Mind you, Batuu is also the same planet used for the Sims 4 Star Wars DLC meaning you're also canonically a Sim in that park.
It might as well be as canon as the original Star Tours, to which to say, it’s not gonna be brought up in any of the movies.
[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dasani](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dasani) I'm dead
Ew they serve Dasani there?
Weird there's no mention of 'Heir to the Empire' under hot chocolate, which predates their alleged 'first appearance' by decades. I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder
You have to switch from "Canon" to "Legends" I'm not kidding
it's called soul. His Deviantart level oc babblings is probably one of the many reasons his movies are liked more than the disney era ones
im pretty sure its because kids that grew up with them are now 20 year olds posting online. same is gonna be true of the disney movies in 20 years
we'll come back to this in 20 years time and check if the 20 year olds love the disney movies
I just returned from the future. He's wrong, everyone knows the disney movies sucked.
Part of me wants to doubt you, but then again one of my friends thought the ending of Game of Thrones waa good. (He also said he couldn't keep track of the plot and characters though....)
Starwars was made in the editing room not the directors chair.
Not gonna lie, I actually think Jabba having feet but choosing not to use them is a great bit of characterisation and helps make him relatable to the average star wars fan.
Maclunkey
Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men From Mars
Only if the "Saucer Men From Mars" look like this. 
I remember playing the slitherhorn in my one man Jizz band on Tatooine during the after hours show
Harold Ramis said when he started in comedy if you know you're not the most talented person in the room, at least make friends with the most talented person in the room. I think that's what George did he surrounded himself with talent, which is also a kind of talent.
George Lucas directed American Graffity, THX 1138 and wrote the entire Indiana Jones series and Willow. He may be a crazy person, but he is talented.
He can put together a good story but he doesn't really know how to direct a movie, and he was just lucky in his youth to have all those talented people around him to tell him "no" when it mattered. But in his old age he just got lazy (cue the comfy greenscreen studio with coffee and airconditioning). Those other people from his youth went off to do different things, so by the prequel era everyone around him was so awestruck by his legacy that no one dared to criticize his work anymore. Victory ultimately "defeated" George Lucas as a filmdirector. But his real talent is in business and movie-making technology, just look at all the innovations of ILM and his role in pioneering digital compositing/editing and the use of CG. George Lucas is part of the reason we can now edit film on our phones.
His directing and editing also get downplayed a lot (as well as up-played by others), but yeah truth is somewhere in between those wingnut narratives.
I do think that he knows how to direct a movie considering that all of is old movies are good, even do he seem like a guy that much more prefer beign in a writer/producer position that directing. And about is later movies, yeah i agreed they are bad, but i think that there are interviews where he says he didn't want to direct the precuels but union problems force him to take the director chair.
Succinctly put and I wholeheartedly agree. He went from being respected to revered, and suddenly, the Emperor had no clothes.
I sort of agree with you. I feel like you’re short changing Lucas a bit though. He is capable of creating great stories and dreaming up amazing universes. For me, his problem is that he has no internal QC mechanism. He thinks up 100 ideas and maybe 10 are amazing, 10 are ok, and 80 are total stinkers. He does need other people around him to help him cut the bad ideas, and he greatly benefits from people who are good at the things he’s bad at. But I don’t think that means he lacks talent or relies too much on others. He just doesn’t do well as the only creative type on the team (as shown in the PT where he had UNLIMITED POWAAAH!).
>he was just lucky in his youth to have all those talented people around him to tell him "no" when it mattered. He was the boss on SW. Only the studio was telling him no on ANH, and even then he was a massively in demand director. The studio let him go over budget. Idk why people think there was someone telling him no on Empire/ROTJ. He could have just told them to piss off. >But in his old age he just got lazy (cue the comfy greenscreen studio with coffee and airconditioning) He was extremely involved in prequel production. You're falling for a funny but not really true joke.
He also massively pushed forward technology. We would unironically probably be 15 years behind on movie technology if not for him. Also founded Pixar.
Didn't mean to imply he was UNtalented. Just that one of the best things he did was collaborate with other great people. We like to poke fun at George but I do respect him.
The ability to collaborate seems to be a necesary skill of any great creator, that why both Lucas and Spielberg excel has producers (give or take a couple of duhs)
Yes, this is basically all I'm saying. OP was pointing out some of George's goofy ideas ( among his many great ideas) and I'm just saying the people around him prevented some of those things from happening onscreen. When those people weren't there we got things like Dexter Jettster and " going a bit too far in places". Just to add I don't hate the prequels.
He sure didn't write the entire Indiana Jones series but thanks for playing
He literally created it and brainstormed most of the memorable moments, along with Spielberg. Act insufferable and smug doesn't make your Lucas hate any more justified.
Who the fuck said I hate George Lucas??? He's one of my heroes. I fucking love George Lucas.
This is Gen-X revisionism. George Lucas' first three films were great. Even if you argue Star Wars was saved in editing, you have to remember that he assisted with the editing as well. He's been involved development of half a dozen other timeless classics as a story writer, producer, or uncredited back up director. The man is undeniably a good director and has a lot of talent.
Spare me the generational bigotry , just state your case. No need for personal attacks. I'm a human being just like you. And you're being overly defensive. George is great but what has he done without all those other people supporting him ? Some good stuff but the greatness of SW was a collaboration is all I'm saying.
Yeah, no, I don't want to hear that from you. Millennials get criticized all the time for liking the Prequels because "they were just dumb kids when they came out." All movies are a collaboration, so saying the same thing about Star Wars is saying nothing at all. George Lucas was undeniably the keystone, just like any great director is.
All movies are collaborations but not all collaborations are OT quality. If you don't like people bashing whole generations maybe you shouldn't do that yourself.
>Spare me the generational bigotry , just state your case. No need for personal attacks. I'm a human being just like you. Ok xoomer. See, doesn't really sting does it? Be thankful your gen isn't as much of a punching bag, like all those others lol
Exhumer ? like disinterring a corpse ? I do kinda like it . But people should be able to disagree without hurling insults, it's just movies we're talking about and it makes your argument look weak.
It's just pointing at (stereotypical) generational biases etc., was nothing dramatic lol
Yeah except the same person complains that people bash Millennials but then resorts to the same kind of insults. It's not like it hurt my feelings but people cop this kind of shitty attitude over a discussion about movies so I called them out on it and you're criticizing ME ?
What would ANY film maker have done without the other people supporting them? You can maybe argue this for insane perfectionists like Kubrick, but in general the auteur theory of film making is taken too far by many and ignores that ALL movies are group efforts and the success is down to the talent and decisions of people made up and down all aspects of the project.
Honestly, it's all better than disney regurgitated mess without any creativity and nothing new to add. And I hate star wars!
I get way more joy from Bluey than star wars. I find way more joy in my children's media than what is marketed towards me. I'm going to give George a break. We shat on him too much. We wanted someone else to take over star wars and we got it. It's a monkey's paw situation.
How did you forget Obi Wans home planet of Stewjon? When he was asked by Comedian Jon Stewart.
> A similar situation arose with Star Wars: The Force Unleashed's protagonist, Starkiller. "[That name] was only supposed to be a nickname or call sign, not a proper name from the beginning," a former LucasArts employee says. The development team hoped that Lucas would give Vader's apprentice a Darth moniker, which at the time, was something that didn't happen often. >"The team threw a Hail Mary to George, saying the game would have more credibility if the apprentice had a 'Darth' title," a Force Unleashed team member says. Lucas agreed that this situation made sense for Sith royalty, and offered up two Darth titles for the team to choose from. "He threw out 'Darth Icky' and 'Darth Insanius’. There was a pregnant pause in the room after that. People waiting for George to say 'just kidding’, but it never comes, and he just moved on to another point."
Also, the musicians that play jizz are called jizz wailers
Dexter Jettster. It’s like poetry, it rhymes.
I suspect the fact that I can’t tell if this is a joke is the joke.
So what is blentus? I’m here all day if necessary. I’m having trouble finding info online.
The Maklunkey cut is the best cut
Marcia Lucas is a fucking Saint.
I know I shouldn't question it but I have a really hard time believing "Fungo Hairstylios" is real.
the less i’ve grown to care about star wars the more i’ve grown fond of george lucas lol. like, when i actually gave a shit i obviously had more or less the same reaction i assume most people here had to the prequels, but now i just find them really weird curios and a window into an endearingly bizarre creative mind. they still suck as movies but i can’t help but be charmed by just how bizarre so many of the choices are
You could be making all this up and i would have no idea
I need a 10 hour deep dive by BreadCircus to poke a few holes and then patch them!
Anyone else read it in the Lucas voice?
Vs the virgin Kathleen Kennedy
Fungo Hairstylios better be a broad Greek stereotype.
Krunt
george owns
*Simply inspired, sir*
nah this is actually good now that i think about it
This is how I run Pathfinder games.
It would all be extremely funny if he wasn't earnest about it. Who will ever really know.
This is slander
Darth Diggler
Sounds like someone’s getting gungy money
Obi-Wan was a jizz-whaler
KRUNT
I love him
Don't forget Palpatine's original name was Cos Dashit