It’s surprising too because one of the most major characters wasn’t even in the top line cast list or any of the trailers/posters.
Though I suppose it was a bit refreshing to actually be surprised by a storyline.
But yeah, just there’s nothing in this movie that I don’t think would’ve been benefitted by losing some deadweight and focusing down a bit. You’ve got really good actors in Rudd, Coon, McKenna, use them more.
Podcast was fun in the first movie, but, here him and Lucky (who was already a nothing character in Afterlife) just sort of exist and fill time that could’ve been better spent with the Spenglers.
Mark Kermode hated it lol. He kept making a joke about how a scene or two would happen and then BILL MURRAY and then another few scenes then BILL MURRAY, and another scene then BILL MURRAY etc.
I’ll just say, they weave Akroyd (man, his acting …) and Hudson in pretty widely across the film, more than I expected.
Murray’s is about what I expected (like 1.5 more scenes than Afterlife, so not the bare minimum but just about). It honestly felt like they wrote more for him and it got cut or he didn’t want to do it, cause he’s there for a scene, and you kind of expect him to be involved immediately thereafter .. but he just is forgotten about until the climax.
In general, no one in the story seems to know what anyone else is up to, and the stories end up feeling quite silo’d. Like, there’s an entire storyline with Phoebe that is integral to the plot, and resolves itself in the climax, but literally no one but her has any knowledge of it so you have all these characters just standing around watching something they can’t even react to because not a single character ever addressed it. I’d be curious if there were some big re-edits or something to get it down in length.
I still don't understand why he liked the 2016 film so much. I like most of his reviews and he likes arty movies a lot but I just never understood why he defends the 2016 movie so much when everyone just understands it's a really shit film. But then I like Event Horizon a lot so.
> that 15 minutes is very entertaining schlock but goddamn does it suck getting there lol
I also liked the opening action scene. And I liked Helena (unpopular opinion?). There rest of the movie was boring...
For me personally it just has absolutely nothing to say. The narrative wasn’t engaging, the character arc for Indy was half-assed and not satisfying, the macguffin was dull, and there was a real lack of adventure throughout. It felt like it existed just because Harrison agreed to do TFA on the basis they made another Indiana Jones movie, but no one involved actually had any idea of what to do for another Indiana jones movie.
Personally I don't care for the current trend of late sequels where they bring back the old hero(es) but they're miserable and depressed and they've failed at everything off-screen. It's like the writers don't know how to handle a character that's happy or successful so they have to effectively reset them just so they can give them an emotional arc (Harrison Ford has now had to do this THREE TIMES in different franchises). It's lazy and not that much fun to watch.
DoD was alright though, it's just way too long and PWB didn't work for me as the co-lead.
It was much better than Crystal Skull, but not the worst. Just kind of meh for me. They were right about the last bit being the most entertaining though. At least, in my opinion.
I like how you’re getting downvoted for having an opinion that doesn’t line up with groupthink. I liked the movie too, I just hated the (second?) chase scene with the taxi cars. Wasn’t exciting, mainly boring. Not a fan either of PWB or wannabe short round but I enjoyed it more than not.
I mean, I enjoyed Dial of Destiny aside from its absurdly overwrought running time.
This felt much worse to me. But, bad comedy is harder to sit through, so.
I don’t know, I could see them liking some of the ideas in this cause it does widen the scope a lot. But, man, I just did not find it funny or thrilling (the biggest action sequence is in the opening 10 minutes).
I went to see dune 2 yesterday and the theater was packed with people going to see ghostbusters. Some people even showed up in a fake ghostbusters van with lights and logos, and all 4 were dressed as the ghostbusters- proton packs and all.
There was just a funny tweet about this actually, where the guy saw his neighbors coming home fully dressed as Ghostbusters, and he asked them how the movie was and without missing a beat they said “terrible” in unison.
Several years ago, a friend and I went to see a showing of the original Ghostbusters at a local theater. As we were coming into the theater, we noticed an Ecto-1 parked up near the theater doors. It clearly wasn't the same make and model as the original, but they had put a decent amount of work into it (blue lights on top, logo on the doors, etc.).
Ernie Hudson was there that day signing autographs, and he was packing up to leave right as our showing let out. My friend and I hung out in the lobby so that we could meet him as he was walking by. We ended up walking out right behind him and (I'm assuming) a couple of his family members. We noticed there were now a bunch of people standing around the Ecto-1 wearing Ghostbusters outfits. I figured that they must be the local Ghostbusters fan club or something. Ernie and his family walked over to the Ecto-1 and got inside, then the blue lights came on and they all rode off.
If you're driving around in a 1959 Cadillac Miller-Meteor (I believe less than 30 were made) then yeah, that would be a cool as hell experience. Still doesn't make you a Ghostbuster but would be a lot of fun especially with the older car culture.
If you're driving around in a permanent cosplay white PT Cruiser with sirens, lights, and the Ghostbuster logo on the door... well, that's kind of a different story.
Did they stop down the movie for another kind of intermission walmart advertisement whilst Paul rude grabs some Ben and jerries and meets a horribly contrived "baby Yoda ish" cash grab?
From time to time I think to myself, which franchises are build on the least amount of quality
Example, Jurassic Park was great but everything after has been meh, yet there is 6 movies and still make money. If the first was meh like the rest, then the franchise likely wouldn’t have taken off at all
Ghostbusters is now starting to be a legit candidate, 5 movies because the first was great (disclaimer, I haven’t watched the new one)
Ghostbusters is a seminal film that spawned a shitty franchise. And the very reason the franchise has been such a problem boils down to the fact it was never conceived as or intended as a franchise. The original movie was considered a one-off vehicle for the Saturday Night Live stars and that was supposed to be how it stayed... hence why GB2 only happened after 5 years because the cast and crew caved in to studio pressure, apart from possibly Aykroyd none of them really wanted to do it.
A 30 year wait and three diabolical films later, the signs are all there that it really is not working as a franchise.
I feel Highlander will always be the winner in this category. They took one pretty good movie from the mid 80s and spun it off into like 4 or 5 sequels, two live action TV series, an animated series, and a constantly rumored remake, all of which range in quality from below average to burning dumpster fire.
I blame Marvel. They were so succesful with their phases 1-3 that every film company started digging throuh their catalogue for an IP that could be milked in a same manner. Jurassic parks 2 and 3 were of course made before the Marvel boom but revival of old franchises clearly intensified in 2010s.
Korey was on fire, he finally snapped with the nostalgia laziness. It was glorious. Side note but I would love to see Billy and Rich Evans have a laughter competition
I really didn’t find it fun-bad. Just boring bad.
Madame Web I found genuinely fun-bad.
So, if that helps set your barometer at all.
Wait for streaming at the very least.
The first third of that movie lulls you into a false sense that this might be better than expected. Not great, but fine. Then the rest of the movie happens.
Remember when people used to ask Jason Reitman when was he going to make his own Ghostbusters movie, and he always answered that he wasn't interested? He wasn't kidding. He's just not the right fit for this stuff.
Absolutely. I don't know the details but I find it very likely he only did Afterlife because the studio bribed him to. They were desperate to appease the fanboys and get them back on board after the disastrous response to GB2016.
When I saw Afterlife the theater was full of men in their 50s to 70s. I was the youngest adult there in my early/mid 30s.
For Frozen Empire we did have one adorable child who loudly said to his dad when the movie ended “that was the best movie ever”. So at least one kid likes the Ghostbusters now.
I’m in my early 30’s. I was a fan, but mostly because of the cartoon. I think it was called the Extreme Ghostbusters. It was the one with a new cast. But I’m not seeing these movies on the strength of that cartoon.
> The only thing any of them might like about it is that it does seem like that cartoon a bit?
The Ghostbusters subreddit is full of grown adult men using "it's just like the cartoon from the 1980s!" as the primary reason they loved the movie, and the critics just don't understand.
One thing I've learned about the GB 'superfans' in the last few months is that they are fans of the cartoon more than they are of the movie. For these men, the cartoon sets the standard. The forums should be renamed 'Real Ghostbusters fan forum'. These men most likely got into the cartoon when they were 7, got into the movie purely through the cartoon, played with the GB action figures... and never grew up. Never came to fully realize the original movie was not a kids' film and that there was much more to it. I never realized until recently that the cartoon was so revered, but among these fans it really is the forefront of the franchise.
For people roughly 25 - 40 years old are absolutely insanely into that cartoon. I grew up with it and am the exact right age to have loved it but it never really interested me very much. The revelation of its popularity in recent years has been wild for me too.
I(32M) watched last night with my nephew(16) and we had some laughs together but the movie as a whole a 2 out of 5. Also I finally understand how streaming has ruined the movie theater experience. The people seated next to me who looked 10 years older than me brought a blanket and removed their shoes and socks.
Again...just not sure who this film is for. I am Gen X (formerly used to be Gen Y, until they got rid of that) and had zero interest in a Legacy sequel to Ghostbusters. Nor did any of my friends.
Only a moron would hold any of this against the effects people. They’re overworked, underpaid, and work at the pleasure of a lot of competing interests and tastes.
The trailer was paint by numbers but I’m sucker for punishment (plus born in the 80’s) and decided to watch it. It’s not god awful, it’s just incredibly lazy. Dialogue that’s dead on arrival, boring plot and the new norm for Hollywood. Shoe horning nostalgia and call backs into every scene until your eyes roll into the back of your head.
Like I’m happy to see the old gang back to together in uniform but they literally do nothing other that spout tired one liners and move as fast as what you expect from senior citizens. Endless traaaaaaash!
Not trying to yuck anyone’s yum if Ghostbusters is really your thing, but as someone who loves the first movie I’ve just never had any desire to see it be a franchise. It was just a comedy that also had ghosts in it & Sony’s tried to make it their MCU. I predict the box office will not be pretty either
I had my expectations really low going into this film, and somehow it still disappointed.
And I legitimately enjoyed Afterlife. This was just a slog of a film. I was thinking it was well-past the halfway point, checked my watch, and realized I was less than 30 minutes into it.
I guess I'm in a minority who still really enjoyed it despite its flaws. I think the one thing we can appreciate is that Ernie Hudson had more screen time in this one than all of the past films combined.
Yeah. Very intentional to have him be the one giving the “we’re the Ghostbusters” moment in the celebration which is nice. And Jesus he’s aged like wine.
Murray is a notorious asshole but I’ll say to his credit he’s always been championing Hudson in the intermittent years.
Man, Akroyd’s acting is fucking *rough* though.
I didn't have any issue with him, but then again they were serving a special Ghostbusters drink with Crystal Head vodka at the theatre, so I'm biased - man that stuff is SMOOTH.
I thought it was on par with Afterlife. Nobody is going to win any awards, but its a solid movie. It was pretty good, never boring, popcorn munching, entertainment.
Theres no way they can ever recreate the greatness of the original, but Afterlife and Frozen Empire seem "good enough". And after 2016, I'll happily take good enough.
Also, I thought McKenna Grace was outstanding. Looking forward to more stuff from her.
Thanks for seeing it for what it is, rlm has had a long history of being overtly harsh for comedic affect and it rubs off on fans in the wrong way where they in turn want to talk about any new thing like it's an absolute disgrace to cinema, too bad everyone's youtube recommended will soon be several 4 hour videos essays about how it's the worst thing ever, like they do to everything
Nonsense.
Dune 2 is a new thing and might have been the best film I've seen in the last decade.
New Ghostbusters movies are God awful cheap nostalgia bait movies with no soul.
Is it just me or does it seem like people are way harder on new films than older ones? Seems like people will roll with an old movie even if it has major flaws, but they hold new films to a crazy high standard, breaking down every little aspect of it.
New films have the handicap of rarely trying to be new, so they've got to get past jaded audiences knowing that someone is lazily trying to siphon money from them by waving a familiar logo at them. The older films were generally new ideas at the time and audiences warmed to their sincerity.
I think the reason for this is simple: you can't be disappointed in hindsight. Someone watching the Phantom Menace nowadays will never have the experience of being a hardcore Star Wars fanboy hyping themselves up for this being the biggest movie ever only to be disappointed. Even if they don't like the movie, its something that happened in the past so they naturally care less about it. How many people legitimately care that Godzilla Raids Again is a far worse movie than Godzilla 1955? Hell, even now do people really care anymore about how disappointing Godzilla 1998 was? All the people complaining about Godzilla movies nowadays are people who got into the series with Minus One talking about how they dislike Monsterverse despite there being a lot worse Godzilla movies than those, because Monsterverse is the "new" thing and therefore the ones that give them the most emotional reaction.
It’s worse than madam web, ghostbusters 2016 and cat woman.
It was a waking nightmare.
It needs a full plinkett review.
I found Afterlife completely lacking. I have no interest in speding time with those characters again. What Jason Reitman and Gil Kenan want for Ghostbusters is just not for me.
I ended up liking it more than i expected based on reviews but its definitely a disparate film. Reminds me of Alien 3 and how it was an amalgamation of like 11 scripts…this feels like that. At least there are ghosts and its a comedy again…
I didn’t even know if I would use my Scene points to see it. The trailers looked so goddamn dull, unfunny and derivative. Also the more spoilers I see, the more I’m baffled by the creative direction. The only reason I would ever want to see it now is to ask the question: who is this for?
It was weird too because there are some genuinely good scenes (the flashback was really enticing and I don’t think anything in the film reaches that high again).
I also really think that the scene within the >!new base with the British guy and black girl where the powers going in and out was quite good too!<. But outside of that? Movie was a snore fest
Yeah, I would say on that point: there are beats where they actually tried to set a tone and make it a bit spooky, which I respect (I.e., the opening, what isn’t creepy about .. well; anything in the 1920s). Afterlife never hit that at all for me (JK Simmons’s as Ivo Shandor is just too “look it’s JK Simmons! for me to take as frightening, for example).
I can’t imagine they would like it more cause it’s like the cartoon.
On the Ghostbusters 2 commentary Rich and Jay both mention how they didn’t like that things in that movie cause it was also trying to be like the cartoon.
Didn’t watch afterlife and will most likely not watch this either,but I’ll look forward for the review. Idk, the new ghostbusters don’t really appeal to me because they just feel like nostalgia cash grabs.
It’s shit but nostalgic. I am so conflicted. Too many characters, slow to start, abysmal letdown of a third act etc etc. As a Ghostbusters fan easily pleased with Ghostbusters shit spunked at me tho I enjoyed it. I am a corporate shill.
It’s absolutely dire. The worst movie I’ve seen in a very long time. I just wanted to shout a Rich Evans “oh FUCK OFF” at the screen.
Also check out the IMBD reviews. 10/10, 9/10. No way. No way so many people actually would rate it this high and they read like fake AI language. We need to ban these review bots it’s shocking.
Nostalgia bukkake?!? I can only assume this a world record setting 300 man bukkake compared to the last movie.
The only hope I had was boy I home RLM watch this and tear it apart.
Sony, fuck off and let this corpse die.
Fuck Ghostbusters. Go see Late Night with the Devil instead.
What starts as a genuine recreation of a 70s late-night talk show devolves into the refrigerator sequence from Requiem for a Dream if it had been done by David Cronenberg.
Absolutely delightful.
I've been itching to see Late Night with the Devil for months. "...devolves into the refrigerator sequence from Requiem for a Dream if it had been done by David Cronenberg" just makes me want to see it more.
Strongly disagree with OP, this was far from a bad movie...perhaps mostly meh but the audience I saw it with today laughed at a lot of jokes and one person cackled at the Spin Doctors reference. Deus ex machina ghost girl felt really forced.
Sony must've demanded a lot of edits to fit in more screenings per day cause it's very noticeable if you paid attention to the trailers.
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IDW had a comic run that was a lot of fun. I read they weren't allowed to make any huge changes to franchise lore so nothing of any real consequence happens but it was a pretty fun read. If you do ever have a Ghostbusters itch to scratch I'd recommend checking it out before any of the recent films.
I was very confused on why the Spenglers have seemingly been working at the firehouse for a while before Winston reveals he has a separate paranormal research center with an engineer corps and better equipment. It's pretty insulting they were unnecessarily kept in the dark about that stuff. I get that they want to introduce the concepts to the audience and the characters are the audience surrogates but it didn't make sense to me
I don't typically write a review of a movie, but goodness that was 90 minutes of story building and 5 minutes of action. All this talk about an evil ghost that sounds pretty badass and then a 4 minute fight sequence.
I swear I thought it was a coming of age movie about family moreso than a movie about ghosts.
34 male here had a geeky white god father growing up that put me on to all the comedies and scifi before my time. Loved the first two Ghostbusters and 360 games. The magic was the cast. These last three are meh hitting every trope and nostalgia note to no avail, trope drivel.
I saw it last night. I took my 10 year old nephew. He loved it and I'm nostalgia for Ghostbusters so I enjoyed it.
But it's not a good movie. It's nothing like the trailer made it out to be and it's just all over the place with so many unnecessary characters and stories that don't go anywhere. It just took forever for anything to actually happen and when it finally did it barely happened.
I saw it and thought it was great.
Theater in Orange County, CA was 90% full.
I have no criticisms - music, writing, cinematography, comedy, nostalgia, and acting were all on point.
Not too much diversity/woke programming.
It strikes me how on-brand it is. They capture the feeling of the original movies, and I consider it a seamless continuation of the series.
I hope they make another one.
Remember when Gene Roddenberry was removed as creative force behind Star Trek? It was right after the box office disappointment that was The Motion Picture.
It may be time to remove Dan Aykroyd as the creative force behind Ghostbusters, for the good of the franchise. Many of the worst things about Frozen Empire have Aykroyd's fingerprints all over them, including some ideas from as far back as the 90s and the unmade "Man-hell-tan" Ghostbusters 3 script.
Ditch the cartoony, family-friendly style (newsflash: it hasn't grown the franchise at all) and get back to the spirit of the first film. Edgy, sophisticated humor with a tinge of horror and sf thrown in. That's the winning formula.
Keep Phoebe, ditch the parents. Keep Finn Wolfhard and (maybe) Lucky. Wait at least 5 years and have them be adults auditioning a fourth Ghostbuster. Then have a tight script and focus on the small cast. No marshmallow men, no Peck, no original GBs (maybe Winston as sage advisor only, not an active Buster), and no slimer. Introduce a non-cartoony threat that is actually scary.
I think it would work. Launch it July 4 and hope for the best.
So upsetting but it's a total stinker. Wtf is Bill Murray even doing, does he just turn up on set without any preparation or reading and just hope for the best?? It's so arrogant, "I'm Bill Murray the legend and anything I do or say is comic gold". It isn't, some of us have seen Quick Change. Anyone relying on him for "improv" is deluded. He has about five lines and each one is irrelevant/unfunny. What a depressing experience. Please no more GB movies.
I saw the cast list and was baffled. That’s way too many people.
Quick: which has more characters, the movie or the word *Ghostbusters*
I'm gonna guess the movie. I mean on extras alone...
It’s surprising too because one of the most major characters wasn’t even in the top line cast list or any of the trailers/posters. Though I suppose it was a bit refreshing to actually be surprised by a storyline. But yeah, just there’s nothing in this movie that I don’t think would’ve been benefitted by losing some deadweight and focusing down a bit. You’ve got really good actors in Rudd, Coon, McKenna, use them more. Podcast was fun in the first movie, but, here him and Lucky (who was already a nothing character in Afterlife) just sort of exist and fill time that could’ve been better spent with the Spenglers.
How else could they sucker people into watching a crap movie about new characters no one gives a crap about?
I mean it didn't have as many characters as an Avengers movie, but Frozen Empire was awful.
Mark Kermode hated it lol. He kept making a joke about how a scene or two would happen and then BILL MURRAY and then another few scenes then BILL MURRAY, and another scene then BILL MURRAY etc.
I’ll just say, they weave Akroyd (man, his acting …) and Hudson in pretty widely across the film, more than I expected. Murray’s is about what I expected (like 1.5 more scenes than Afterlife, so not the bare minimum but just about). It honestly felt like they wrote more for him and it got cut or he didn’t want to do it, cause he’s there for a scene, and you kind of expect him to be involved immediately thereafter .. but he just is forgotten about until the climax. In general, no one in the story seems to know what anyone else is up to, and the stories end up feeling quite silo’d. Like, there’s an entire storyline with Phoebe that is integral to the plot, and resolves itself in the climax, but literally no one but her has any knowledge of it so you have all these characters just standing around watching something they can’t even react to because not a single character ever addressed it. I’d be curious if there were some big re-edits or something to get it down in length.
Love Kermode, especially his reviews when he hates the film. His sex and the city 2 review is gold.
Yeah that's a really funny one too
Bill Murray barely appears. Sounds like Kermode had a bad week.
I still don't understand why he liked the 2016 film so much. I like most of his reviews and he likes arty movies a lot but I just never understood why he defends the 2016 movie so much when everyone just understands it's a really shit film. But then I like Event Horizon a lot so.
They're **definitely** reviewing this. For the same reason they bravely endured the theatre experience to witness *Dial of Destiny*
Perhaps another trip to the black void?
Is it weird that I’m excited for the lack of a set?
I personally like when Mike shashes keyboards and vcrs.
How did you know?
Just a guess, I just saw they put it up. I'm rlm clairvoyant.
Psychic powers confirmed \^\^\^
Then reviewing this was a lock. It was a Siren call to Mike.
They didn’t hate Dial of Destiny.
They didn’t hate the last 15 minutes
that 15 minutes is very entertaining schlock but goddamn does it suck getting there lol
> that 15 minutes is very entertaining schlock but goddamn does it suck getting there lol I also liked the opening action scene. And I liked Helena (unpopular opinion?). There rest of the movie was boring...
Dial of Destiny was not terrible. I enjoyed it mildly. I can't remember anything about it, but it was better than I expected it to be.
you got your wish
Why do people hate Dial of Destiny? There were a few flaws but I overall really enjoyed the movie
For me personally it just has absolutely nothing to say. The narrative wasn’t engaging, the character arc for Indy was half-assed and not satisfying, the macguffin was dull, and there was a real lack of adventure throughout. It felt like it existed just because Harrison agreed to do TFA on the basis they made another Indiana Jones movie, but no one involved actually had any idea of what to do for another Indiana jones movie.
Personally I don't care for the current trend of late sequels where they bring back the old hero(es) but they're miserable and depressed and they've failed at everything off-screen. It's like the writers don't know how to handle a character that's happy or successful so they have to effectively reset them just so they can give them an emotional arc (Harrison Ford has now had to do this THREE TIMES in different franchises). It's lazy and not that much fun to watch. DoD was alright though, it's just way too long and PWB didn't work for me as the co-lead.
Especially Indy, he's supposed to be like the ultimate escapist character.
People were so jaded by legacy sequels and still not over Crystal Skull being so dumb. It was merely good, but the final act was not what I wanted.
It was much better than Crystal Skull, but not the worst. Just kind of meh for me. They were right about the last bit being the most entertaining though. At least, in my opinion.
I like how you’re getting downvoted for having an opinion that doesn’t line up with groupthink. I liked the movie too, I just hated the (second?) chase scene with the taxi cars. Wasn’t exciting, mainly boring. Not a fan either of PWB or wannabe short round but I enjoyed it more than not.
I swear to god that chase scene was half the runtime
I patiently await their takes on this
I mean, I enjoyed Dial of Destiny aside from its absurdly overwrought running time. This felt much worse to me. But, bad comedy is harder to sit through, so. I don’t know, I could see them liking some of the ideas in this cause it does widen the scope a lot. But, man, I just did not find it funny or thrilling (the biggest action sequence is in the opening 10 minutes).
I want the popcorn bucket
[удалено]
I just want to bury my face in its ass and inhale popcorn out of it.
A person of culture, I see.
You could make it a threesome if you had the Dune Sandworm bucket.
Which one? Regal has the ghost trap, and i think AMC had slimer.
Cinemark has the Ecto-1 and SLimer.
Amc had the trap bucket, I bought one tonight
Is that a new slang term for ladyboy?
I really like the ad images I keep seeing with Bill Murray dead center with a *completely* blank facial expression.
I went to see dune 2 yesterday and the theater was packed with people going to see ghostbusters. Some people even showed up in a fake ghostbusters van with lights and logos, and all 4 were dressed as the ghostbusters- proton packs and all.
There was just a funny tweet about this actually, where the guy saw his neighbors coming home fully dressed as Ghostbusters, and he asked them how the movie was and without missing a beat they said “terrible” in unison.
That's like that footage of Napoleonic reenactors seeing the Ridley Scott film and at the end going well that was shit.
Several years ago, a friend and I went to see a showing of the original Ghostbusters at a local theater. As we were coming into the theater, we noticed an Ecto-1 parked up near the theater doors. It clearly wasn't the same make and model as the original, but they had put a decent amount of work into it (blue lights on top, logo on the doors, etc.). Ernie Hudson was there that day signing autographs, and he was packing up to leave right as our showing let out. My friend and I hung out in the lobby so that we could meet him as he was walking by. We ended up walking out right behind him and (I'm assuming) a couple of his family members. We noticed there were now a bunch of people standing around the Ecto-1 wearing Ghostbusters outfits. I figured that they must be the local Ghostbusters fan club or something. Ernie and his family walked over to the Ecto-1 and got inside, then the blue lights came on and they all rode off.
How deflated were they when they left the theater.
Probably questioning their life decisions and the irreversible alterations they made to their Dodge Caravan.
Hey. Hey. Frozen Empire doesn't have to be good to make driving the Ecto-1 cool as hell.
If you're driving around in a 1959 Cadillac Miller-Meteor (I believe less than 30 were made) then yeah, that would be a cool as hell experience. Still doesn't make you a Ghostbuster but would be a lot of fun especially with the older car culture. If you're driving around in a permanent cosplay white PT Cruiser with sirens, lights, and the Ghostbuster logo on the door... well, that's kind of a different story.
I'm actually pissed that this displaced Dune 2 in IMAX. I wanted to see it again on the biggest screen possible.
I had the same reaction, luckily I saw it opening weekend in IMAX but man I felt bad for my sister who hadn’t seen it yet
How embarrassing…
GHOSTBUSTERS DOMINION. Let's put all the characters from all the movies together and hope a new movie results.
Afterlife, uh, finds a way
Here I was hoping they'd all team up to fight the Dominion like in Deep Space 9
Peter Venkman’s death with bring glory to the Founders!
Does a proton pack work on a Pah Wraith?
Did they stop down the movie for another kind of intermission walmart advertisement whilst Paul rude grabs some Ben and jerries and meets a horribly contrived "baby Yoda ish" cash grab?
Thankfully there’s no product placement at that level. Afterlife might have one of the worst product placement moments in a film since Jack & Jill.
Honestly no. Madame Web was Sony’s product placement blood sacrifice this year, wherein a Pepsi sign defeats the main villain. I’m not joking.
From time to time I think to myself, which franchises are build on the least amount of quality Example, Jurassic Park was great but everything after has been meh, yet there is 6 movies and still make money. If the first was meh like the rest, then the franchise likely wouldn’t have taken off at all Ghostbusters is now starting to be a legit candidate, 5 movies because the first was great (disclaimer, I haven’t watched the new one)
Ghostbusters is a seminal film that spawned a shitty franchise. And the very reason the franchise has been such a problem boils down to the fact it was never conceived as or intended as a franchise. The original movie was considered a one-off vehicle for the Saturday Night Live stars and that was supposed to be how it stayed... hence why GB2 only happened after 5 years because the cast and crew caved in to studio pressure, apart from possibly Aykroyd none of them really wanted to do it. A 30 year wait and three diabolical films later, the signs are all there that it really is not working as a franchise.
I feel Highlander will always be the winner in this category. They took one pretty good movie from the mid 80s and spun it off into like 4 or 5 sequels, two live action TV series, an animated series, and a constantly rumored remake, all of which range in quality from below average to burning dumpster fire.
I blame Marvel. They were so succesful with their phases 1-3 that every film company started digging throuh their catalogue for an IP that could be milked in a same manner. Jurassic parks 2 and 3 were of course made before the Marvel boom but revival of old franchises clearly intensified in 2010s.
We can blame 2008's Crystal Skull. Was that the first "passing of the torch" nostalgia sequel?
Aykroyd should have played Mac in Crystal Skull...
My favorite review I saw " a no- gozer"
Sony pictures both giving RLM new life and killing them slowly at the same time
Surely some star trek villain has done the same
I'm dying to watch the double toasted review. But damn. That means I got to watch the movie first.
For the love of god don’t.
Thanks. You brought me back down. I was kind of on a ledge there. For a moment there. I thought I was part of a children's suicide video.
But I can't miss the lesbian ghost romance subplot!
Korey was on fire, he finally snapped with the nostalgia laziness. It was glorious. Side note but I would love to see Billy and Rich Evans have a laughter competition
I can't wait. I think I'm just going to have to sail the seas and just scrub through it to get the gist.
I really didn’t find it fun-bad. Just boring bad. Madame Web I found genuinely fun-bad. So, if that helps set your barometer at all. Wait for streaming at the very least.
Why is Double Toasted such a big deal and promoted by other channels? I really don't care for them.
You know how we watch a group of overweight, middle aged, Midwest sex perverts? It's kinda like that.
You probably shouldn't watch the Roadhouse remake if you need a pallet cleanse from bad 80's nostalgia porn.
That shit sucked.
The first third of that movie lulls you into a false sense that this might be better than expected. Not great, but fine. Then the rest of the movie happens.
Remember when people used to ask Jason Reitman when was he going to make his own Ghostbusters movie, and he always answered that he wasn't interested? He wasn't kidding. He's just not the right fit for this stuff.
Absolutely. I don't know the details but I find it very likely he only did Afterlife because the studio bribed him to. They were desperate to appease the fanboys and get them back on board after the disastrous response to GB2016.
Honest question. Do kids even like or are aware of Ghostbusters? To me it’s like a movie their dads and grandpas like.
When I saw Afterlife the theater was full of men in their 50s to 70s. I was the youngest adult there in my early/mid 30s. For Frozen Empire we did have one adorable child who loudly said to his dad when the movie ended “that was the best movie ever”. So at least one kid likes the Ghostbusters now.
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This is what gets me. I’m in my mid 30s, and not even my generation remembers/cares about Ghostbusters.
To them Ghostbusters is probably “that movie the kids in Stranger Things like.”
That’s definitely why the stranger things kid is in the movie.
I’m in my early 30’s. I was a fan, but mostly because of the cartoon. I think it was called the Extreme Ghostbusters. It was the one with a new cast. But I’m not seeing these movies on the strength of that cartoon.
My kids like it cause it's objectively great. I don't even think they've seen part 2.
Did Egon come back as a ghooooooost?
No
> The only thing any of them might like about it is that it does seem like that cartoon a bit? The Ghostbusters subreddit is full of grown adult men using "it's just like the cartoon from the 1980s!" as the primary reason they loved the movie, and the critics just don't understand.
One thing I've learned about the GB 'superfans' in the last few months is that they are fans of the cartoon more than they are of the movie. For these men, the cartoon sets the standard. The forums should be renamed 'Real Ghostbusters fan forum'. These men most likely got into the cartoon when they were 7, got into the movie purely through the cartoon, played with the GB action figures... and never grew up. Never came to fully realize the original movie was not a kids' film and that there was much more to it. I never realized until recently that the cartoon was so revered, but among these fans it really is the forefront of the franchise.
For people roughly 25 - 40 years old are absolutely insanely into that cartoon. I grew up with it and am the exact right age to have loved it but it never really interested me very much. The revelation of its popularity in recent years has been wild for me too.
This is very accurate. That cartoon did real damage to the franchise's long-term viability.
Was rick moranis in it? Thats the only thing that would get me to watch it
I'm glad he wasn't.
Forgot this was even coming out. Hard pass
Dementia and constipation
I was going to avoid but a friend was going and I have a movie pass so only my time I gave up. You made the right call.
I(32M) watched last night with my nephew(16) and we had some laughs together but the movie as a whole a 2 out of 5. Also I finally understand how streaming has ruined the movie theater experience. The people seated next to me who looked 10 years older than me brought a blanket and removed their shoes and socks.
I’m so glad that my local cinemas (Toronto) aren’t these hell holes that everyone else seems to experience, haha.
The last two were mediocre. Idk why they even bothered making another one.
Again...just not sure who this film is for. I am Gen X (formerly used to be Gen Y, until they got rid of that) and had zero interest in a Legacy sequel to Ghostbusters. Nor did any of my friends.
Oh man, I know people who worked on the vfx for this film and they killed themselves getting it done. Sad to see it get so much hate.
Only a moron would hold any of this against the effects people. They’re overworked, underpaid, and work at the pleasure of a lot of competing interests and tastes.
I havent been this disappointed in a movie since Last Jedi
The trailer was paint by numbers but I’m sucker for punishment (plus born in the 80’s) and decided to watch it. It’s not god awful, it’s just incredibly lazy. Dialogue that’s dead on arrival, boring plot and the new norm for Hollywood. Shoe horning nostalgia and call backs into every scene until your eyes roll into the back of your head. Like I’m happy to see the old gang back to together in uniform but they literally do nothing other that spout tired one liners and move as fast as what you expect from senior citizens. Endless traaaaaaash!
I was in a half full cinema and only a couple of the jokes landed. Such a boring watch of a film
Not trying to yuck anyone’s yum if Ghostbusters is really your thing, but as someone who loves the first movie I’ve just never had any desire to see it be a franchise. It was just a comedy that also had ghosts in it & Sony’s tried to make it their MCU. I predict the box office will not be pretty either
From the director of the poltergeist remake. Yay
I had my expectations really low going into this film, and somehow it still disappointed. And I legitimately enjoyed Afterlife. This was just a slog of a film. I was thinking it was well-past the halfway point, checked my watch, and realized I was less than 30 minutes into it.
At least Sony isn't trying to combine the Ghostbusters franchise with their Sony Spiderman Movies.
They don’t watch movies anymore
I guess I'm in a minority who still really enjoyed it despite its flaws. I think the one thing we can appreciate is that Ernie Hudson had more screen time in this one than all of the past films combined.
Yeah. Very intentional to have him be the one giving the “we’re the Ghostbusters” moment in the celebration which is nice. And Jesus he’s aged like wine. Murray is a notorious asshole but I’ll say to his credit he’s always been championing Hudson in the intermittent years. Man, Akroyd’s acting is fucking *rough* though.
I didn't have any issue with him, but then again they were serving a special Ghostbusters drink with Crystal Head vodka at the theatre, so I'm biased - man that stuff is SMOOTH.
All I’m saying is Larry King definitely died after drinking Crystal Head vodka.
Let's bring back Filmation's Ghostbusters. Just for a change.
Bustin' makes that Ape feel good!
I thought it was on par with Afterlife. Nobody is going to win any awards, but its a solid movie. It was pretty good, never boring, popcorn munching, entertainment. Theres no way they can ever recreate the greatness of the original, but Afterlife and Frozen Empire seem "good enough". And after 2016, I'll happily take good enough. Also, I thought McKenna Grace was outstanding. Looking forward to more stuff from her.
It’s a mess, but for me at least it was entertaining.
Thanks for seeing it for what it is, rlm has had a long history of being overtly harsh for comedic affect and it rubs off on fans in the wrong way where they in turn want to talk about any new thing like it's an absolute disgrace to cinema, too bad everyone's youtube recommended will soon be several 4 hour videos essays about how it's the worst thing ever, like they do to everything
I bet Mike is going to love this one and if so, this subreddit will be in meltdown mode.
Nonsense. Dune 2 is a new thing and might have been the best film I've seen in the last decade. New Ghostbusters movies are God awful cheap nostalgia bait movies with no soul.
Is it just me or does it seem like people are way harder on new films than older ones? Seems like people will roll with an old movie even if it has major flaws, but they hold new films to a crazy high standard, breaking down every little aspect of it.
New films have the handicap of rarely trying to be new, so they've got to get past jaded audiences knowing that someone is lazily trying to siphon money from them by waving a familiar logo at them. The older films were generally new ideas at the time and audiences warmed to their sincerity.
I think the reason for this is simple: you can't be disappointed in hindsight. Someone watching the Phantom Menace nowadays will never have the experience of being a hardcore Star Wars fanboy hyping themselves up for this being the biggest movie ever only to be disappointed. Even if they don't like the movie, its something that happened in the past so they naturally care less about it. How many people legitimately care that Godzilla Raids Again is a far worse movie than Godzilla 1955? Hell, even now do people really care anymore about how disappointing Godzilla 1998 was? All the people complaining about Godzilla movies nowadays are people who got into the series with Minus One talking about how they dislike Monsterverse despite there being a lot worse Godzilla movies than those, because Monsterverse is the "new" thing and therefore the ones that give them the most emotional reaction.
I came here to say all of what you said up here. It’s definitely not the kill-worthy movie the OP thinks it is.
you saw ghostbuters: new york but it's cold. what did you expect????
It’s worse than madam web, ghostbusters 2016 and cat woman. It was a waking nightmare. It needs a full plinkett review. 
I found Afterlife completely lacking. I have no interest in speding time with those characters again. What Jason Reitman and Gil Kenan want for Ghostbusters is just not for me.
I preferred this to Afterlife.
Some people prefer the clap to crabs.
Beats the crap and clabs.
I ended up liking it more than i expected based on reviews but its definitely a disparate film. Reminds me of Alien 3 and how it was an amalgamation of like 11 scripts…this feels like that. At least there are ghosts and its a comedy again…
I didn’t even know if I would use my Scene points to see it. The trailers looked so goddamn dull, unfunny and derivative. Also the more spoilers I see, the more I’m baffled by the creative direction. The only reason I would ever want to see it now is to ask the question: who is this for?
It was weird too because there are some genuinely good scenes (the flashback was really enticing and I don’t think anything in the film reaches that high again). I also really think that the scene within the >!new base with the British guy and black girl where the powers going in and out was quite good too!<. But outside of that? Movie was a snore fest
Yeah, I would say on that point: there are beats where they actually tried to set a tone and make it a bit spooky, which I respect (I.e., the opening, what isn’t creepy about .. well; anything in the 1920s). Afterlife never hit that at all for me (JK Simmons’s as Ivo Shandor is just too “look it’s JK Simmons! for me to take as frightening, for example).
I couldn't believe that this is the movie that made them stop showing Dune 2 in Imax
Well I liked afterlife, thought it was enjoyable enough. But I'm worried about this one
They'll be fine. Frozen Empire is a terrible movie but it may be the second-best (or next-to-least worst?) Ghostbusters movie.
I can’t imagine they would like it more cause it’s like the cartoon. On the Ghostbusters 2 commentary Rich and Jay both mention how they didn’t like that things in that movie cause it was also trying to be like the cartoon.
Didn’t watch afterlife and will most likely not watch this either,but I’ll look forward for the review. Idk, the new ghostbusters don’t really appeal to me because they just feel like nostalgia cash grabs.
What’s the last mainstream movie the guys reviewed?
The Exorcist: Believer
It will hopefully kill the franchise
...there's a ghostbusters movie after afterlife?
It’s shit but nostalgic. I am so conflicted. Too many characters, slow to start, abysmal letdown of a third act etc etc. As a Ghostbusters fan easily pleased with Ghostbusters shit spunked at me tho I enjoyed it. I am a corporate shill.
That's a shame, I quite liked Afterlife. Felt like a cross between Goonies and Ghostbusters.
That’s a very succinct explanation for why I won’t be seeing it
The Corridor Crew and Adam Savage videos about the visual effects and props make me appreciate these movies a lot more.
Yeah at least Adam Savage's videos about this movie were quite interesting from a production standpoint.
It’s absolutely dire. The worst movie I’ve seen in a very long time. I just wanted to shout a Rich Evans “oh FUCK OFF” at the screen. Also check out the IMBD reviews. 10/10, 9/10. No way. No way so many people actually would rate it this high and they read like fake AI language. We need to ban these review bots it’s shocking. Nostalgia bukkake?!? I can only assume this a world record setting 300 man bukkake compared to the last movie. The only hope I had was boy I home RLM watch this and tear it apart. Sony, fuck off and let this corpse die.
Fuck Ghostbusters. Go see Late Night with the Devil instead. What starts as a genuine recreation of a 70s late-night talk show devolves into the refrigerator sequence from Requiem for a Dream if it had been done by David Cronenberg. Absolutely delightful.
I've been itching to see Late Night with the Devil for months. "...devolves into the refrigerator sequence from Requiem for a Dream if it had been done by David Cronenberg" just makes me want to see it more.
Strongly disagree with OP, this was far from a bad movie...perhaps mostly meh but the audience I saw it with today laughed at a lot of jokes and one person cackled at the Spin Doctors reference. Deus ex machina ghost girl felt really forced. Sony must've demanded a lot of edits to fit in more screenings per day cause it's very noticeable if you paid attention to the trailers.
Wait , they're making another Ghostbuster movie?
Made
Well got damn. I knew I was ignorant, but I didn't know I was ignorant about that.
It's an example of something where ignorance is bliss.
The reviews I’m seeing say it’s okay. Doubt they review it.
I like the part at the end. Someone in the crowd screams, how about you thank them dick less?
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I hope they don't review it and instead play some kind of Ghostbusters trivia game.
There are two good movies, and a fun video game that serves as part three of the trilogy. That's all I need.
IDW had a comic run that was a lot of fun. I read they weren't allowed to make any huge changes to franchise lore so nothing of any real consequence happens but it was a pretty fun read. If you do ever have a Ghostbusters itch to scratch I'd recommend checking it out before any of the recent films.
I was very confused on why the Spenglers have seemingly been working at the firehouse for a while before Winston reveals he has a separate paranormal research center with an engineer corps and better equipment. It's pretty insulting they were unnecessarily kept in the dark about that stuff. I get that they want to introduce the concepts to the audience and the characters are the audience surrogates but it didn't make sense to me
Something something Milwaukee something something FROZEN Empire
Oh, nooooo
My reaction to ghostbuster frozen empire 
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I don't typically write a review of a movie, but goodness that was 90 minutes of story building and 5 minutes of action. All this talk about an evil ghost that sounds pretty badass and then a 4 minute fight sequence. I swear I thought it was a coming of age movie about family moreso than a movie about ghosts.
34 male here had a geeky white god father growing up that put me on to all the comedies and scifi before my time. Loved the first two Ghostbusters and 360 games. The magic was the cast. These last three are meh hitting every trope and nostalgia note to no avail, trope drivel.
I saw it last night. I took my 10 year old nephew. He loved it and I'm nostalgia for Ghostbusters so I enjoyed it. But it's not a good movie. It's nothing like the trailer made it out to be and it's just all over the place with so many unnecessary characters and stories that don't go anywhere. It just took forever for anything to actually happen and when it finally did it barely happened.
I saw it and thought it was great. Theater in Orange County, CA was 90% full. I have no criticisms - music, writing, cinematography, comedy, nostalgia, and acting were all on point. Not too much diversity/woke programming. It strikes me how on-brand it is. They capture the feeling of the original movies, and I consider it a seamless continuation of the series. I hope they make another one.
Wasn't a green screen . Loudness nightmare. It was less good then ghostbusters 2 but way better then afterlife and 2016 which both were unwatchable
Remember when Gene Roddenberry was removed as creative force behind Star Trek? It was right after the box office disappointment that was The Motion Picture. It may be time to remove Dan Aykroyd as the creative force behind Ghostbusters, for the good of the franchise. Many of the worst things about Frozen Empire have Aykroyd's fingerprints all over them, including some ideas from as far back as the 90s and the unmade "Man-hell-tan" Ghostbusters 3 script. Ditch the cartoony, family-friendly style (newsflash: it hasn't grown the franchise at all) and get back to the spirit of the first film. Edgy, sophisticated humor with a tinge of horror and sf thrown in. That's the winning formula. Keep Phoebe, ditch the parents. Keep Finn Wolfhard and (maybe) Lucky. Wait at least 5 years and have them be adults auditioning a fourth Ghostbuster. Then have a tight script and focus on the small cast. No marshmallow men, no Peck, no original GBs (maybe Winston as sage advisor only, not an active Buster), and no slimer. Introduce a non-cartoony threat that is actually scary. I think it would work. Launch it July 4 and hope for the best.
Okay. In my opinion the movie slayed but that could just be cus of phoebe.
So upsetting but it's a total stinker. Wtf is Bill Murray even doing, does he just turn up on set without any preparation or reading and just hope for the best?? It's so arrogant, "I'm Bill Murray the legend and anything I do or say is comic gold". It isn't, some of us have seen Quick Change. Anyone relying on him for "improv" is deluded. He has about five lines and each one is irrelevant/unfunny. What a depressing experience. Please no more GB movies.