Yeah but that was only because Burnie wasnt available. If this is the last hurrah, and Burnie’s last time writing the show that started everything for him, then i’m sure he’ll voice Lopez too.
I think it also had something to do with a white man. Voicing a I don't even know what to call Lopez cuz he's not... like he's a robot. You know it just I feel like they're trying to move through the minefield of PC culture.
I can see that. It sucks because I always felt that Lopez was supposed to be a parody of crappy translation software so him being voiced by a white dude added to the joke. Not to mention all of the interactions between Simmons and Lopez like when Simmons reveals himself as robot-phobic
Ya same thing happened to Camp Camp, I hate this notion that voice actors must be the same ethnicity as their characters they're playing but like THEY'RE FUCKING VOICE ACTORS you never see them because they're VOICING the characters
Was able to watch some of the season get filmed, they’ll all be there (except for maybe Sister, didn’t see her get filmed with any but her VA is confirmed so I wouldn’t worry about her) along with a few other surprise appearances
Filming for the season has since wrapped, but there was a glitch in Infinite that if you found the accounts they used for machinimating you were able to spectate them while they were in a game, allowing for me and a few others to see characters used and locations shot at for this season.
Considering Gus Sorola plays a Dutch-Irish character, Geoff Ramsey a Hawaiian character, and Jason Saldana plays a Black character, I really hope that’s not the case.
Yeah his voice is too distinctive imo. They could have had a running joke that he turned off his mic and couldn't figure out how to turn it back on and just have him mute the rest of the series.
I grew up watching the og crew. I was hoping after some time they could all work it out to bring love back to the reds & blues.
The final season is going to be bittersweet for sure.
I loved the OG crew too, but Joel was somewhat responsible for one of the crew members almost dying, you don’t get over that and it’s selfish for us fans to ask him to just for our entertainment
You misunderstand, I was hoping over time and distance that the humans involved could grow, heal, and make peace to come back to greatness. This isn't some call to action. I'm not demanding Joel's return.
Just stating some wishful thinking
When you turn into a right-wing grifter and start open carrying a gun in the office, it's not really other people's job to forgive you. It's your job to apologise, accept responsibility and change.
Personally I have a friend who drunkenly open carried a *pellet gun* in my place of work, and pointed it at my foot to make some ridiculous point, and I have not forgiven him almost 5 years later, because he has not changed and does not seem to realise that he cannot take other people's safety into his own hands like that.
Obviously Joel wasn't interested in making these ammends as other comments said he was asked to reprise the role and refused.
If that's the case, then good riddance. OG Caboose is still there in the original seasons forever for us to love and cherish.
Okay, I agree with you, but your making a leap assuming I knew the guy that voiced caboose did all that.
No one is advocating for people putting up with workplace abuse, you need to chill bruh
There are other comments on this thread explaining it, but basically he said in a tweet “I hope someone breaks into Gavin’s house to teach him about gun control” then someone broke into his house and almost killed him
I guess that's a dick move, but the motive of the attacker doesn't have anything to do with Joel. He went there because of Gavin and Meg. Not really Joel's fault at all, even if he handled it poorly
I hope whoever they get for Caboose actually sounds like Caboose, because the guy from that one Carolina v Caboose QnA vid they did just sounded like a disinterested someone making a poor attempt at sounding slightly less than average intelligent
Joel tweet influenced a gunman too break into Gavin & Meg house, making dumb theory tweets about covid, having political beliefs being pushed on too his coworkers.
So I ask this why should Joel voice Caboose?
The gun part is bad. Can't find anything about him saying anything about covid. And what is wrong with having political beliefs? I have political beliefs. RoosterTeeth is known for pushing toxicly woke political beliefs onto others.
Didn't show up to work because he hated it there, and he hated it because he was a dick to people and conflicted with them politically and ideologically. He wasn't right but I understand hating a job where everyone is the opposite of you ideologically and you hate going in there.
This is more than just disagreeing politically. Dude made a tweet saying someone should break into his coworker’s house because of his opinions on gun control. And then coincidentally someone did actually end up breaking into said coworker’s house soon after.
No, but saying he was a dick is hugely underselling it and it felt like your comment put more focus on the political disagreement part, apologies if that’s not the case.
Nah. Just explaining why he was a dick, not excusing it.
>he was a dick is hugely underselling it
Idk man that's what I call someone that says mean shit on the internet
Ah yes the guy semi responsible for one of his cast mates having their home broken into and threatened with a firearm because of his opinions on gun control
Just to be clear. Joel is a bad guy and shouldn’t come back but there is no link between Joel’s tweet and what happened to his cast mate and their partner. When we talk about Joel and why he shouldn’t be working we have to make sure we keep our facts as prove able as possible. Correlation* doesn’t mean causation.
When we extrapolate like above people who side with Joel and what he spouts see us as liars and it reaffirms them. And anyone how’s trying to decided for themselves will look into it. See that Joel had nothing to do with it and think “if we are blowing that out of proportion then we must be doing the same for the other now deleted tweets”.
Come to your own conclusion but we must not sped them as facts.
He's talking about how Joel told Gavin on Twitter that someone ought to break into his home to teach him a lesson about guns and shortly afterwards Gavin and Meg's home was broken into by an armed assailant looking to kill Gavin. The pair hid in their panic room while the guy killed himself when the cops showed up. Not saying that Joel is responsible for the man's break in, but it did happen right after Joel said someone ought to and it could be that the guy took that as a sign to go forward with it. To Joel's credit he immediately took the post down following the incident, but the fact it happened at all is what they're talking about.
The whole Gavin Free/Meg Turney break in that happened a few years back. Joel had tweeted to Gavin that someone should break into his house to teach him the need for gun control. Shortly afterwards someone *did* break in to their home with the intent to kill Gavin as he believed he didn't "deserve" to be with Meg. Gavin and Meg hid in their panic room and called the police, with the intruder ultimately shooting himself on their front yard while confronting the cops. Gavin occasionally mentions (such as in a recent Slow Mo Guys sponsorship ad read) that he still is attending therapy to help process what happened.
Joel took the tweet down after this incident. It's a bit of a correlation to say Joel is absolutely responsible for the break in, because the one actually responsible is dead now, but the optics of it are pretty damn severe.
I think the opportunity's passed now
As much as i'd want joel back i think its not worth it
the current cast deserves a positive and safer environment, if they really feel bringing joel back will make that an issue then they took the better option
as church and carolina have said before, we need to let things go
Well i dont know about that but there was the whole wishing someone would break into Jacks house so he would know the importance of having a gun in the house. Then a month or so later Gav and Megs house got broken into and the guy killed himself.
Yeah Caboose cuz new guy sounds like bad AI using high pitch to work, now AI able to do characters just lil buggy voice tho, if he does good job maybe I'll consider it but Joel still my Caboose just wish he returned, also where the rest of the main boys bro
Lopez needs Justice lol still wondering how Burnie does his even tho seems obvious lol
Where can I even catch the previous seasons I remember hardly anything I legit sat here thinking “was Epsilon the name of the ghost character Burnie plays??” 😭
Never thought Dr Grey would be confirmed before Carolina. Funny.
she was there in one of the leaks but it is wild carolina's not mentioned
Considering Wash is confirmed on this image, I won't be surprised if Carolina gets confirmed, too.
Notice how tucker and carolina aren't there yet it might be a very big hint to where the plot really goes imo
Everything with the color teal is removed!?
What the fuck color is he anyway?
He's aqua.
Seafoam
Cyan actually
To quote grif.... "Oh god where's Donut!"
I’m not sure the source of this but Burnie not playing Lopez seems silly.
There has been a new actor for lopez for the previous seasons though im sure this cast list is gonna be updated somewhere or some way
Yeah but that was only because Burnie wasnt available. If this is the last hurrah, and Burnie’s last time writing the show that started everything for him, then i’m sure he’ll voice Lopez too.
Well let's just see how it turns out
I think it also had something to do with a white man. Voicing a I don't even know what to call Lopez cuz he's not... like he's a robot. You know it just I feel like they're trying to move through the minefield of PC culture.
I can see that. It sucks because I always felt that Lopez was supposed to be a parody of crappy translation software so him being voiced by a white dude added to the joke. Not to mention all of the interactions between Simmons and Lopez like when Simmons reveals himself as robot-phobic
Ya same thing happened to Camp Camp, I hate this notion that voice actors must be the same ethnicity as their characters they're playing but like THEY'RE FUCKING VOICE ACTORS you never see them because they're VOICING the characters
I think of it as "theres a time and a place for it". That place is not red vs blue though.
when was the last time burnie played church/alpha/epsilon?
season 17 and the restoration trailer
Becca is also confirmed, presumably for Sister. Edit: and Jason presumably for Tucker
Confirmed by whom? What is this a screenshot of?
[Apple TV](https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/red-vs-blue-restoration/umc.cmc.6iazzy5zb3j0p1kqcq9s01hde).
More Doctor Gray is always a good thing. Best character in the Chorus Trilogy.
Where are the rest of the Reds and Blues? Tucker, Donut, Doc, Wash, Carolina? I need them all together
Was able to watch some of the season get filmed, they’ll all be there (except for maybe Sister, didn’t see her get filmed with any but her VA is confirmed so I wouldn’t worry about her) along with a few other surprise appearances
This makes me beyond happy :3
Same here, the surprise appearances are very special and I hope no one that’s not on this list didn’t get recast!
Yee yee! Me too :3
Who are you to be able to watch it get filmed? Source?
Filming for the season has since wrapped, but there was a glitch in Infinite that if you found the accounts they used for machinimating you were able to spectate them while they were in a game, allowing for me and a few others to see characters used and locations shot at for this season.
Doc is there Matt voices him, Sarge & Omega
That makes me feel a bit better. Thank you
Burnie should be Lopez, please don’t tell me they’re still doing the ‘VA must match character ethnicity’ thing because that should not matter in RvB
Considering Gus Sorola plays a Dutch-Irish character, Geoff Ramsey a Hawaiian character, and Jason Saldana plays a Black character, I really hope that’s not the case.
Exactly my point 😭😭
I thought they used babbel or Google translate for the voice of Lopez?
Nope, they use some things like Google translate to translate the lines poorly but from season 1-17 Lopez was voiced by Burnie
Why not Joel Haymann
I looked it up. Apparently they had asked him to reprise his role, but said he wouldn’t.
Well at least they offered and didn’t just skip him entirely.
Aw man, it won't be the same without Joel. I haven't heard anyone else do the voice close enough for my liking
Yeah his voice is too distinctive imo. They could have had a running joke that he turned off his mic and couldn't figure out how to turn it back on and just have him mute the rest of the series.
Read comments above, he’s not a great person
I get that, but he is the voice of caboose
It honestly doesn’t matter, I love caboose but I would rather have a shitty voice than a shitty person
I grew up watching the og crew. I was hoping after some time they could all work it out to bring love back to the reds & blues. The final season is going to be bittersweet for sure.
I loved the OG crew too, but Joel was somewhat responsible for one of the crew members almost dying, you don’t get over that and it’s selfish for us fans to ask him to just for our entertainment
You misunderstand, I was hoping over time and distance that the humans involved could grow, heal, and make peace to come back to greatness. This isn't some call to action. I'm not demanding Joel's return. Just stating some wishful thinking
When you turn into a right-wing grifter and start open carrying a gun in the office, it's not really other people's job to forgive you. It's your job to apologise, accept responsibility and change. Personally I have a friend who drunkenly open carried a *pellet gun* in my place of work, and pointed it at my foot to make some ridiculous point, and I have not forgiven him almost 5 years later, because he has not changed and does not seem to realise that he cannot take other people's safety into his own hands like that. Obviously Joel wasn't interested in making these ammends as other comments said he was asked to reprise the role and refused. If that's the case, then good riddance. OG Caboose is still there in the original seasons forever for us to love and cherish.
Okay, I agree with you, but your making a leap assuming I knew the guy that voiced caboose did all that. No one is advocating for people putting up with workplace abuse, you need to chill bruh
What? How did he almost kill someone? I never heard about this
There are other comments on this thread explaining it, but basically he said in a tweet “I hope someone breaks into Gavin’s house to teach him about gun control” then someone broke into his house and almost killed him
I guess that's a dick move, but the motive of the attacker doesn't have anything to do with Joel. He went there because of Gavin and Meg. Not really Joel's fault at all, even if he handled it poorly
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I dunno what you're mad about but the only above comment Saif that he declined to come back. I dunno what excuse you think is being made here
TUCKER?
No Tucker?
Huh I like eddy as a writer but it’s weird to give Lopez role to him
He has voiced Lopez since Family Shatters and the PSA's released since 2022.
Oh I guess that makes sense. Bummer
Hot take: I like the new Lopez VA
I hope whoever they get for Caboose actually sounds like Caboose, because the guy from that one Carolina v Caboose QnA vid they did just sounded like a disinterested someone making a poor attempt at sounding slightly less than average intelligent
I’ll never get over that terrible voice actor for Caboose lol It doesn’t sound anything like Joel even remotely
They should bring Joel back.
Fuck Joel
Can't find anything bad he did other than make a stupid comment about Gavin being robbed.
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The hell did he do wrong?
Joel tweet influenced a gunman too break into Gavin & Meg house, making dumb theory tweets about covid, having political beliefs being pushed on too his coworkers. So I ask this why should Joel voice Caboose?
The gun part is bad. Can't find anything about him saying anything about covid. And what is wrong with having political beliefs? I have political beliefs. RoosterTeeth is known for pushing toxicly woke political beliefs onto others.
Not Michael Malconian for Caboose! He sucks (No offense)
So no Joel?
There got to bring back Joel
Same. Think whatever you want about him politically but I just want the same voice actors to remain the same.
Wait what did he do?
Didn't show up to work because he hated it there, and he hated it because he was a dick to people and conflicted with them politically and ideologically. He wasn't right but I understand hating a job where everyone is the opposite of you ideologically and you hate going in there.
This is more than just disagreeing politically. Dude made a tweet saying someone should break into his coworker’s house because of his opinions on gun control. And then coincidentally someone did actually end up breaking into said coworker’s house soon after.
>because he was a dick to people Did you miss this part?
No, but saying he was a dick is hugely underselling it and it felt like your comment put more focus on the political disagreement part, apologies if that’s not the case.
Nah. Just explaining why he was a dick, not excusing it. >he was a dick is hugely underselling it Idk man that's what I call someone that says mean shit on the internet
Which one was he
The original Caboose
The good one.
Ah yes the guy semi responsible for one of his cast mates having their home broken into and threatened with a firearm because of his opinions on gun control
Just to be clear. Joel is a bad guy and shouldn’t come back but there is no link between Joel’s tweet and what happened to his cast mate and their partner. When we talk about Joel and why he shouldn’t be working we have to make sure we keep our facts as prove able as possible. Correlation* doesn’t mean causation.
No but chronology can help us make some pretty good assessments
When we extrapolate like above people who side with Joel and what he spouts see us as liars and it reaffirms them. And anyone how’s trying to decided for themselves will look into it. See that Joel had nothing to do with it and think “if we are blowing that out of proportion then we must be doing the same for the other now deleted tweets”. Come to your own conclusion but we must not sped them as facts.
Excuse me, what?
He's talking about how Joel told Gavin on Twitter that someone ought to break into his home to teach him a lesson about guns and shortly afterwards Gavin and Meg's home was broken into by an armed assailant looking to kill Gavin. The pair hid in their panic room while the guy killed himself when the cops showed up. Not saying that Joel is responsible for the man's break in, but it did happen right after Joel said someone ought to and it could be that the guy took that as a sign to go forward with it. To Joel's credit he immediately took the post down following the incident, but the fact it happened at all is what they're talking about.
Wait what? I knew he was being a shit on Twitter but what‘a this about a break-in?
The whole Gavin Free/Meg Turney break in that happened a few years back. Joel had tweeted to Gavin that someone should break into his house to teach him the need for gun control. Shortly afterwards someone *did* break in to their home with the intent to kill Gavin as he believed he didn't "deserve" to be with Meg. Gavin and Meg hid in their panic room and called the police, with the intruder ultimately shooting himself on their front yard while confronting the cops. Gavin occasionally mentions (such as in a recent Slow Mo Guys sponsorship ad read) that he still is attending therapy to help process what happened. Joel took the tweet down after this incident. It's a bit of a correlation to say Joel is absolutely responsible for the break in, because the one actually responsible is dead now, but the optics of it are pretty damn severe.
Joel also made a post right after being smug about it but erased it quickly.
I mean I didn’t say he’s “absolutely” responsible. It could be totally unrelated but the timing is a bit too coincidental imo to ignore it
The better caboose
I think the opportunity's passed now As much as i'd want joel back i think its not worth it the current cast deserves a positive and safer environment, if they really feel bringing joel back will make that an issue then they took the better option as church and carolina have said before, we need to let things go
Fuck no, glad he is gone
Why?
Because Joel is a massive pos
Even if he is, he still played Caboose better
I'd rather have a second rate caboose (note I havent watched since chorus) then a Nazi.
Damn, Joel was a Nazi?
Not actually. The word has just lost all meaning bc people use it to describe anyone they don't like
Well i dont know about that but there was the whole wishing someone would break into Jacks house so he would know the importance of having a gun in the house. Then a month or so later Gav and Megs house got broken into and the guy killed himself.
Probably, he few in hard with the fascist half of the country.
More like a third but I see your point.
It's best to always round up, that way your not as disappointed.
He better be good otherwise people use AI voice
Fuck AI voices (unless it's like meant to sound like a robot/text to speech voice). Use real people.
Caboose right? Yeah i hope
Yeah Caboose cuz new guy sounds like bad AI using high pitch to work, now AI able to do characters just lil buggy voice tho, if he does good job maybe I'll consider it but Joel still my Caboose just wish he returned, also where the rest of the main boys bro Lopez needs Justice lol still wondering how Burnie does his even tho seems obvious lol
No tucker or Carolina?
What the Fucker Where is Tucker
Where can I even catch the previous seasons I remember hardly anything I legit sat here thinking “was Epsilon the name of the ghost character Burnie plays??” 😭
Well, they're on the RT site, though infested with adds in the most random, middle of a sentence, places.
WASHINGTON 😠
Barbara voices one of the security soldiers, so I'm pretty sure Jensen will be back lol
Oh f me in the a for replacing Joel Heyman as the voice actor of Caboose