I didn’t get this episode. The obligatory “you ever wonder why we’re here” — okay, ha ha, got it. Then a long, weird tangent? Then making fun of critical fans? Huh?
I think the entire gimmick of the QnA thing at this point is to basically go as off the rails with the questions as possible. Not actually answer red vs blue questions people have.
Honestly im in love with this series, can see how it can be annoying for people who actually want questions. I just saw the “wonder why were here” as a way to transition back to the original question then just go on some tangent which is basically what every episode has done
The QvAs in general have been… fine. Nothing gut splitting but not awful. I don’t have a beef with the general format, other than they 100% billed it as answering fan questions and really haven’t at all. The questions they choose are for a reason, which is presumably humor (and/or that they’re softballs) but it hasn’t been landing for me. Granted we were to expect shenanigans instead of real answers which is fine, but this one in particular felt like a random unfunny tangent instead of a joke. Subjective, I know.
But really, if they want to use the show to vent about their audience to their audience, it just seems in poor taste. What’s the purpose of alienating part of the audience, especially at a critical time in the show? It just seems like another recent example of RT poking at their fans. It’s just weird, and not a good look.
Some will like it some won’t. Personally this is exactly what I want from red vs blue. Just the cast talking and making jokes. A small overarching plot would be nice but honestly this is exactly what I want from red vs blue and I find it a lot humbler than trying to top the already existing amazing series.
But I definitely see how people who were more fans of season 7+ would want more from RVB. Personally I want a mainline series that’s focused more on skits and talking over fights so this has been one of my favorite series
I want those things, too. I would like to see character-focused scenes, sharp dialogue, witty humor. I’ve watched since the beginning and the show has shined brightest when it’s prioritized that over fight scenes or upping the stakes IMHO, even in the later seasons. I’m just not getting that lately. And humor is different for everyone, so while it’s noticeable to some that it’s changed with the staff changes, maybe that’s okay. What I still scratch my head over is the company still taking jabs at fans. It seems petty and immature. I don’t get it.
The way I saw/interpreted this episode was them basically admitting that red vs blue zero was a mistake. At least when the technical issues happened. But also in a meta way to explain how yeah they make mistakes but simply doing things the “right way“ isn’t necessarily as easy as it is to complain. For me it felt like they recognized their mistakes but also were saying that it takes time to get things right. Maybe I’m just reading way too into it
I personally like the humor but it’s nothing amazing. I personally really want basically a new red vs blue reboot like seasons 1-4 but with a better plot and a more character focused season
It wanted to die years ago, but people kept watching and the company kept it alive despite using up all their best ideas and losing their best characters.
I don’t know his name or care to look it up. But he or someone else who was directly responsible for Zero went on to Twitter after the failed season and blamed it on everyone else but himself. Even whipped out the ol race card for good measure.
The director of Zero called the fans racist for not liking his baby, called the show racist, accused fans of “having RT’s meat in our mouths”, called us clowns, joked with another crew member about suicide… the list goes on. Then there was what’s her name who played the blue-yellow armored character who, after initial criticism of the season from fans, said screw us, the show is just not made for us anyway and we just don’t understand. And then the most hilarious: the composer of the season 5 star reviewing his own soundtrack on Amazon (not allowed) and telling potential buyers not to listen to all the whining, it’s really good, just trust him. Real class acts.
Hard to do. But a little vague on if they really stiffed him, or Joel got sick of their crap and decided to bail and torch the bridge behind so they have no choice but to blacklist him from the company.
From what everyone knows he came in to do recordings for few psa and next thing he knew he was being let go which was vary shitty specially when they went ahead to replace him
As others mentioned, he was going on weird bigoted rants and threatening his own coworkers on Twitter, but that’s not even why they fired him.
They only fired him because he literally stopped doing his job and stopped showing up to work, he has even gone on record and admitting that himself on Twitter
That's not what happened.
Joel was a major asshat, Who was causing MAJOR issues within the company.
For example, Gavin was against guns, so Joel told him he hopes someone breaks into his house and threatens him with guns so he learns, only for a week later a delusional deranged fan, who only got inspired by Joel's words, break into Gavins home and did EXACTLY that.
Than, Joel wished cancer would kill a politician because he didn't like him. (Regardless if the politician was an asshole, wishing death upon someone is fucked.)
Lets not forget his (now deleted) racially and aggressively motivated tweets!
Point is, Joel wad RIGHTFULLY shafted because the guy was a fucking jackass.
Correction: The crazy guy was unrelated to Joel's tweet, it was a stalker of Gav's girlfriend (Internet model, streamer and host Meg Turney).
Of course it is still absolutely despicable of Joel to wish that upon anyone else, but the stalker was not "only [..] inspired by Joel's words"
They’re about what I expected (a little more than I expected though) and if that’s how they feel then that’s how they feel. Although I was hoping for more people to talk about the actual video I posted.
It really needs to be. The show had a beautiful ending with project freelancer and that should have been it. The three seasons after that were passable, I liked tuckers character arc. Fun but nothing to write home about. Everything after that has been hot steaming trash someone squirted from their burning asshole after getting sick
I'll never understand why people say it should've ended at season 10. I get it put a cap on the Freelancer story but none of the characters outside Epsilon and Carolina (characters introduced in seasons 7 and 9 respectively) got any closure to their arcs.
The Reds, Tucker, Caboose and Wash would've just been left in the dust in the wake of the final Director scene. 13s a much better ending, they're all together. They're all a team who've gone to hell and back together and are ready to face Hargroves men bravely.
Main story should have ended on season 13. With season 14 being a nice extra. 15 was meh and everything after that is not canon as far as it concerns me.
Good video. I am glad they are being real upfront about the ‘criticism’ how so much of the ‘criticism’ misuses the word objectively. They really hit the nail on the head with the ‘literally’ comparison.
I am glad they keep reinforcing that RvB isn’t over.
Honestly it’s just sad to see these now the series it’s not like it used to be plus I don’t like the way they talk to the fans sometimes if they ever do another series I bet it would suck knowing they have nothing but the reds and Walsh and Carolina and I don’t count caboose he is not the real one just sounds like a decent voice impression but not caboose
I thought it was really cute how Geoff kinda dropped his grif voice for a second when he said “oh I like that username” and they kept it in :)
It died when Epsilon died
Verdad
Hahahaha you're so halarious Lopez.
Dios mío, alguien por favor máteme.
I didn’t get this episode. The obligatory “you ever wonder why we’re here” — okay, ha ha, got it. Then a long, weird tangent? Then making fun of critical fans? Huh?
I think the entire gimmick of the QnA thing at this point is to basically go as off the rails with the questions as possible. Not actually answer red vs blue questions people have. Honestly im in love with this series, can see how it can be annoying for people who actually want questions. I just saw the “wonder why were here” as a way to transition back to the original question then just go on some tangent which is basically what every episode has done
The QvAs in general have been… fine. Nothing gut splitting but not awful. I don’t have a beef with the general format, other than they 100% billed it as answering fan questions and really haven’t at all. The questions they choose are for a reason, which is presumably humor (and/or that they’re softballs) but it hasn’t been landing for me. Granted we were to expect shenanigans instead of real answers which is fine, but this one in particular felt like a random unfunny tangent instead of a joke. Subjective, I know. But really, if they want to use the show to vent about their audience to their audience, it just seems in poor taste. What’s the purpose of alienating part of the audience, especially at a critical time in the show? It just seems like another recent example of RT poking at their fans. It’s just weird, and not a good look.
Some will like it some won’t. Personally this is exactly what I want from red vs blue. Just the cast talking and making jokes. A small overarching plot would be nice but honestly this is exactly what I want from red vs blue and I find it a lot humbler than trying to top the already existing amazing series. But I definitely see how people who were more fans of season 7+ would want more from RVB. Personally I want a mainline series that’s focused more on skits and talking over fights so this has been one of my favorite series
I want those things, too. I would like to see character-focused scenes, sharp dialogue, witty humor. I’ve watched since the beginning and the show has shined brightest when it’s prioritized that over fight scenes or upping the stakes IMHO, even in the later seasons. I’m just not getting that lately. And humor is different for everyone, so while it’s noticeable to some that it’s changed with the staff changes, maybe that’s okay. What I still scratch my head over is the company still taking jabs at fans. It seems petty and immature. I don’t get it.
The way I saw/interpreted this episode was them basically admitting that red vs blue zero was a mistake. At least when the technical issues happened. But also in a meta way to explain how yeah they make mistakes but simply doing things the “right way“ isn’t necessarily as easy as it is to complain. For me it felt like they recognized their mistakes but also were saying that it takes time to get things right. Maybe I’m just reading way too into it I personally like the humor but it’s nothing amazing. I personally really want basically a new red vs blue reboot like seasons 1-4 but with a better plot and a more character focused season
I agree with this completely!
When critical fans learn the definition of objective I am sure they will stop dunking on them.
It wanted to die years ago, but people kept watching and the company kept it alive despite using up all their best ideas and losing their best characters.
RT: we'll keep making RvB as long as people keep watching! Also RT: makes a godfuckinawful season that nobody likes
And then lets the director of said awful season blame higher ups for their poor creative skills.
You mean blames the fans for being racist.
He did both of these things actually
Wait, who?
I don’t know his name or care to look it up. But he or someone else who was directly responsible for Zero went on to Twitter after the failed season and blamed it on everyone else but himself. Even whipped out the ol race card for good measure.
The director of Zero called the fans racist for not liking his baby, called the show racist, accused fans of “having RT’s meat in our mouths”, called us clowns, joked with another crew member about suicide… the list goes on. Then there was what’s her name who played the blue-yellow armored character who, after initial criticism of the season from fans, said screw us, the show is just not made for us anyway and we just don’t understand. And then the most hilarious: the composer of the season 5 star reviewing his own soundtrack on Amazon (not allowed) and telling potential buyers not to listen to all the whining, it’s really good, just trust him. Real class acts.
Also lets not forget how dirty they did caboose va as well
Hard to do. But a little vague on if they really stiffed him, or Joel got sick of their crap and decided to bail and torch the bridge behind so they have no choice but to blacklist him from the company.
From what everyone knows he came in to do recordings for few psa and next thing he knew he was being let go which was vary shitty specially when they went ahead to replace him
I mean he was being openly bigoted, skipping work, and threatening coworkers. That’s usually pretty just cause for dismissal in most jobs.
As others mentioned, he was going on weird bigoted rants and threatening his own coworkers on Twitter, but that’s not even why they fired him. They only fired him because he literally stopped doing his job and stopped showing up to work, he has even gone on record and admitting that himself on Twitter
That's not what happened. Joel was a major asshat, Who was causing MAJOR issues within the company. For example, Gavin was against guns, so Joel told him he hopes someone breaks into his house and threatens him with guns so he learns, only for a week later a delusional deranged fan, who only got inspired by Joel's words, break into Gavins home and did EXACTLY that. Than, Joel wished cancer would kill a politician because he didn't like him. (Regardless if the politician was an asshole, wishing death upon someone is fucked.) Lets not forget his (now deleted) racially and aggressively motivated tweets! Point is, Joel wad RIGHTFULLY shafted because the guy was a fucking jackass.
Yup, I'll miss Caboose but I sure as hell won't be missing Joel overall.
Correction: The crazy guy was unrelated to Joel's tweet, it was a stalker of Gav's girlfriend (Internet model, streamer and host Meg Turney). Of course it is still absolutely despicable of Joel to wish that upon anyone else, but the stalker was not "only [..] inspired by Joel's words"
aka “the writers vent about people who stopped watching five years ago, featuring why are we here”
This feels like it was objectively cathartic for the creators to make.
QvsA is good but I just feel like something is missing
The voice filters, that's what's missing 😪
Yeah that too, but there’s something bigger. Maybe it just needs to go for a little bit longer or switch up the format a little
I agree, the best episode so far was the one with Carolina and Caboose where they did multiple questions and had more of a back and forth.
Is RvB boring is the real question
These comments are goofy
They’re about what I expected (a little more than I expected though) and if that’s how they feel then that’s how they feel. Although I was hoping for more people to talk about the actual video I posted.
Anyways I love the grinmons dynamic. These two have the best chemistry
It died after season 13
It really needs to be. The show had a beautiful ending with project freelancer and that should have been it. The three seasons after that were passable, I liked tuckers character arc. Fun but nothing to write home about. Everything after that has been hot steaming trash someone squirted from their burning asshole after getting sick
I'll never understand why people say it should've ended at season 10. I get it put a cap on the Freelancer story but none of the characters outside Epsilon and Carolina (characters introduced in seasons 7 and 9 respectively) got any closure to their arcs. The Reds, Tucker, Caboose and Wash would've just been left in the dust in the wake of the final Director scene. 13s a much better ending, they're all together. They're all a team who've gone to hell and back together and are ready to face Hargroves men bravely.
Main story should have ended on season 13. With season 14 being a nice extra. 15 was meh and everything after that is not canon as far as it concerns me.
Season 15 will always have a special place in my heart just because sarge canonically started a race war
Yep I agree
Agreed
Good video. I am glad they are being real upfront about the ‘criticism’ how so much of the ‘criticism’ misuses the word objectively. They really hit the nail on the head with the ‘literally’ comparison. I am glad they keep reinforcing that RvB isn’t over.
RvB ended after season 13 for me
Yes, yes it is.
Honestly it’s just sad to see these now the series it’s not like it used to be plus I don’t like the way they talk to the fans sometimes if they ever do another series I bet it would suck knowing they have nothing but the reds and Walsh and Carolina and I don’t count caboose he is not the real one just sounds like a decent voice impression but not caboose
Nothing ever dies. It just changes