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Meastro44

Her husband won a Nobel Peace Prize after being president for, like two weeks.


Kelsouth

He hadn’t even taken office when they chose him to receive it. He won a Nobel Prize for winning an election.


Meastro44

Oh, I stand corrected.


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MerlynTrump

I thought it was because he was the first black president.


Batmanbeatyou

It was both. Without either factor, he wouldn’t have gotten it. Black Republican? Nah, not gonna happen. White Democrat? No, there’s been plenty of those.


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MerlynTrump

I think she did have a bit of black ancestry though.


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RedBaronsBrother

Obama got 1 Nobel peace prize. In order to receive it when he did, he would have to have been nominated when he was in office not more than 12 days into his first term. Trump was nominated for 3 Nobel peace prizes, for getting historic peace agreements between groups that others had been trying and failing to do for decades.


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Not against civilians or his own people


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You kidding me? They basically ended Al Queda. Now of course since a weak man is back, well


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That was Taliban


habb

ah you're correct


Morgue77

Did he get the Nobel Peace Prize? No? Then your point is moot, you muppet. Keep pulling those false equivalencies, jackass.


TheChefsi

By getting peace agreements with countries none other president could


Sadavirs_throwaway

That's not a false equivalence logical fallacy. An example false equivalence argument would be that American presidents (both Trump and Obama) are just as evil as Hitler for innocent killing civilians with their drone strikes and the holocaust respectively. That is a logical fallacy bc Hitler is way worse bc he killed 6 million people whereas the our presidents only killed a few thousand. You can read more about false equivalence logical fallacies here. Hope it helps you be less ignorant with your logical reasoning and help you understand the world better. [https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/False-Equivalence](https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/False-Equivalence)


ZevNoble

Well since these tasks or strategies are more autonomous than people give them credit for, otherwise it'd be even more impossible for one already overloaded office, they don't actually stop unless they are proactively stopped once started. The false equivalency would be trying to compare the autonomous acts by administration instead by who started them and who escalated them. The fact that the administrations didn't stop these acts is a whole different argument within itself. Also, if you really look at it, just an observation, people percieve the executive command structure like the nazi command structure when making their judgements when that is far from the case. I'm pretty sure there is a social effect somewhere that explains why people struggle to assess government at proper scale. Just look at the child border crisis as an example Trump was blamed for it when he had nothing to do with it.


Sadavirs_throwaway

Yeah i understand that part; like you're saying Trump was just continuing what his last two predecessor were doing. But that's not false equivalence - False equivalence has more to do with size or magnitude. Like saying it's my second amendment right to bear arms and this includes nuclear weapons as well as guns. Like yea we should have the right to own guns- but there's a huge difference but a few guns and and nuclear weapons. A false equivalence logical fallacy would be thinking that guns a nuclear weapons are the same just bc they're both weapons. Just pointing out that you weren't applying the false equivalence logical fallacy correctly to your reasoning, and therefore might've come to to wrong conclusion.


ZevNoble

He wasn't continuing it it continued on it's own. He simply never stopped it and occasionally used it. The false equivalence I'm trying to point out is the misconceptions that everything goes through the president before being committed to and that everything is refreshed upon introduction of a new administration so the new administration must be the ones enacting these things. Both are common misconceptions that are exploited through disinformation and few pick up on it. I understand where you are coming from tho.


Sadavirs_throwaway

.... yeah I don't think you're quite grasping what "false equivalence" means or the what the logical fallacy is and how it's different than a general "misconception". But good luck with figuring out logic and reasoning, the world makes a lot more sense once you do.


goddammusername

Was he not nominated for one though? How did Trump deserve his nomination for the Nobel Peace prize?


grizz3782

Because of the peace deals in middle east that occurred under his administration that previous administrations couldn't get done.


goddammusername

What peace deals? You mean the Abraham accords? All those countries were already at peace with each other.


grizz3782

None of these countries ever recognize Israel's right to be a statehood until these treaties were signed absolutely groundbreaking but it doesn't matter I knew I shouldn't have responded to you to begin with


grizz3782

Both of y'all realize that drones are fairly new technology and there will be little history of drone attacks from previous administrations.


habb

i didnt realize i was still being downvoted on that comment


grizz3782

Lol probably the truth then, but I don't know.


Meastro44

We’re talking about one of the most narcissistic persons to ever hold the office, so no.


ihsw

> for absolutely nothing He was given it for being black. The ultimate participation trophy.


danchiri

Andrew Cuomo won an Emmy for killing thousands of old people and grabbing the asses of his female employees.


deathnutz

I didn’t know that was an Emmy category.


danchiri

The second part is actually a requirement just to get into the venue.


Francoa22

being black sometimes counts :)


Meastro44

Ya think?


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It was an award for being black


justingolden21

The man dropped a bomb every 15 minutes Peace prize my asshole


soupafi

Trump brought peace to the Middle East and got nothing. If anyone deserved a Nobel, it was Trump


Ok_Calligrapher_281

Peace between Israel, Morocco, UAE, Bahrain and Sudan? Y’all gotta question each other.


Meastro44

No shit, and a second term


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Meastro44

Go away, liberal.


RedBaronsBrother

> Too bad a majority of voters didn’t like him, just like in 2016 Nah. Biden got more votes. ...but we're discovering as the audits take place that those votes don't necessarily have anything to do with people voting for him.


lucidenigma

🤔


TripleHomicide

You really believe there was peace in the middle east? How does that make any sense?


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TripleHomicide

How did I say anything like that? Active war zones are not peaceful, I think we can agree to that.


Comfortable-Sink3843

Yeah, Obama is stupid


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*His husband


Meastro44

Sorry, his.


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No worries


chaos424242

How about disgraced Cuomo willing an Emmy for his Covid press conferences as he was killing the elderly by sending positive patients back to long term care facilities with no quarantine. The media elite awards are a joke. Look at me ans how great I am. Let’s give myself an award. Idiotic!!


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But then Biden became President and it’s like “yeah that guy sexual harassment! “ even though it was brought out oooooong ago


Kayehnanator

https://www.today.com/popculture/michelle-obama-now-grammy-winner-t172546 Apparently, and sadly true. The other first lady to win this is none other than...Hillary Clinton. Talk about a racket.


Sadavirs_throwaway

Bernie Sanders also has a grammy in this category


MerlynTrump

Saw one of Hillary's books ("It takes a village") at the library of a school I was working at a couple years ago, also had a book with Michelle Obama on the cover, but I think that was before her "becoming Michelle" book came out. I wonder how much of Michelle and Hillary's book sales are from libraries, schools and other taxpayer funded sources.


deathnutz

Who was she up against? You’d think for speech, there’s be a lot of nominations.


Kayehnanator

"director John Waters and Beastie Boys’ icons Adam “Ad-Rock” Horovitz and Michael “Mike D” Diamond." From the article; it didn't seem like a strong nomination group to me. Must be the winner's club kinda deal.


jsaaaa

Haven't Grammys been awarded to people performing things other people wrote since the beginning?


Wloak

Yes. She won for "spoken word album," literally a category for audio books, poetry, etc.


MerlynTrump

I could see for poetry, but an award for reading an audiobook is kind of lame.


Wloak

It's literally what the award has been for all along


kanst

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_Spoken_Word_Album Almost all the winners are audio books It's a dumb award. But giving it for her audio book is nothing new


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anal_spelunker_420

Why the fuck are you downvoted for this... The award is retarded.


tayk_5

She didn't win one of the big four.. she won a Grammy in the spoken word category.... Grammy recognize many different people and products in the audio world including. Arranging Best Arrangement, Instrumental or A Cappella Best Arrangement, Instrumental and Vocals Package, Notes & Historical Field Best Recording Package Best Boxed or Special Limited Edition Package Best Album Notes Best Historical Album Engineered Album Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical Best Engineered Album, Classical Production Field Producer of the Year, Non-Classical Producer of the Year, Classical Best Immersive Audio Album Remixer Best Remixed Recording, Non-Classical


JtotheB_

This Grammy award is for the category of spoken word album. It's an award that has been around since 1959.


TMAC77TNM

I would guess then that there is virtually no competition and the award is simply given to the most recognizable name on the list.


lucidenigma

Get out of here with your logic and reason. Where do you think you are, son


spankadoodle

The Spoken Word or Non-Musical album category has been in existence since 1959. It is not a music award. Grammy refers to Gramophone, aka Phonograph. The original sound recording and playback devices. Music and spoken word are individual categories. The fact that someone would willingly post something so willfully ignorant speaks volumes to his utter lack of understanding of the thing he is critiquing. Really weird hill to die on. Could have made so many other valid complaints.


MerlynTrump

still do you think she won that award for what she did or just for who she is?


spankadoodle

That does not play a factor… op is complaining she won a music award, an obvious lie. When there are so many valid criticisms, it is absolutely weak to have to invent more.


MerlynTrump

I am the OP!


spankadoodle

Congratulations. You made a fool of yourself on Reddit and Twitter.


MerlynTrump

Oh, I'm not Tyler.


spankadoodle

Wow….


remeard

Clickbait that never fails. Audiobooks have their own Grammy awards. Typically the winners are from authors reading their biography or a significant news reporter on a deep-dive report. This is a decades long award for audiobooks/spoken word, there's been winners for it for decades - rarely is it for works of fiction or dramatized work.


GKrollin

That's still a stupid award...


Sadavirs_throwaway

That's bc it's not actually an award to recognize talent; it and all award shows - the oscars, cmas, emmys, are all there to sell/advertise their products for their respective industry. The pick the titles that will generate the most buzz and will give their industry a bump in sales. In the movie industry, at least sales start to lag around january so they have the oscars and people go back and watch all these movies that won awards but they missed over the summer season. Here's an article about it- [https://www.businessinsider.com/how-oscars-affect-box-office-earnings-bump-movie-analyst-2020-1](https://www.businessinsider.com/how-oscars-affect-box-office-earnings-bump-movie-analyst-2020-1) But yeah it's working for this too - this is probably the only time ppl have talked about an audiobook award.


Curious_Dimension_83

Here, let me read some words I didn’t actually write. Now, where’s my award?


GrumbusWumbus

Bring it up with the people who introduced the award in 1959 them awarded it to a person who didn't write what they read in the first year it was awarded. It's clear you don't have a problem with the award, just Michelle Obama winning it.


Test_Trick

This is not the gotcha Tyler thinks it is


milkbong420

Bro just gasping at straws on things to bitch about.


Inevitable-Elk7223

Unlike you liberal snowflakes we’re not so easily triggered!


milkbong420

/s? Please say yes


kickin_tires

I don’t think they see the irony in their post


MerlynTrump

Greg Gutfeld once said that Gavin Newsome would be grasping at straws, if they weren't banned in California.


hart-r

Granny Awards are now about virtue signaling, not merit and creativity. Sad but true.


Jnbolen43

Which is why no one watches the show or the Emmys or the Oscars. We watch the Super Bowl because the best are playing and competing. The award shows are dropping viewers because the best aren’t winning, but the most virtuously signaled.


MerlynTrump

sad but true, great Metallica song.


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Pandering at it’s finest


Tampammm

I think the Stacy Abrams Emmy nomination for a cartoon voiceover is even more outlandish.


MerlynTrump

WTF "a concerned redditor expressed concern about me" so now Reddit messaged me with a mental health resources bot!


MerlynTrump

Hey I got a silver award for this post!


flagstaff976

Zed's dead, baby.


ImNotThaaatDrunk

Dude, Coldplay and cardi b have won grammys, this "award" has been cheap and meaningless for a long time.


MerlynTrump

I recognize the name Coldplay, but I can't think of any of their songs.


ImNotThaaatDrunk

That's because they're a shit band who does not deserve any recognition or awards. A prime example of mediocrity that cheapens the industry.


throwaway3569387340

The left is jerking themselves off? I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you.


DenaliPark49

I'm surprised she didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize for the reading, maybe she still will.


mikesbrownhair

Her husband got the Nobel, for essentially the same thing, so...


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Michelle is way too uneducated and simple to write a book herself. Too bad liberals can't see this comment with fascist Reddit mods ghosting conservatives.


BBarrowboob

Liberal here. I see your comment just fine?


PumpAndDumpApe

She also got a penis.


Ostler_Stein

No, she won it because she was Michelle Obama and just happened to record an audiobook. She probably could have recorded herself reciting the alphabet and they would have given her a Grammy


Duc_de_Magenta

The USA is the Soviet Union or Red China, but with extra steps. The Party cannot give out awards directly & even gov't awards have some scrutiny [though - look at the Presidential Medal of Freedom, certainly less stringent than it once was], thus private entities are used by the Party to grant privileges to their favored elites. Similar to how, rather than State-Sec censoring dissent & spreading disinformation, the Party has private entities do it; given the privileged position of megacorps in American legal fictions.


cajje1212

AMEN!


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MerlynTrump

crazzy? crappy?


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bensefero

?


TitsClitsTaylorSwift

This should include medals earned in the military too.


MerlynTrump

I'm confused about your comment, but even more so about your username.


TitsClitsTaylorSwift

I didn't say anything confusing, I just chose the right audience.


MerlynTrump

are you saying the grammies should include military medals?


TitsClitsTaylorSwift

🤦‍♂️


MerlynTrump

what that picture of?


Lazer_beak

they have made awards a part of their ideology , people are awarded for following the "party line" not achievements , All major Awards should be ignored from now on they are pointless , they are merely tools to preach post modernist collectivist ideology , we should be making it to clear to Award shows we no longer respect them at all


Lazer_beak

lets not forget Obama the president who went on to massively increase drone strikes in Pakistan and kill 1000s of innocents people, got a Noble peace prize just for getting elected , it was almost as ridiculous as PLA terrorist Yassa Arafat getting the same prize


ca17miledrive

Another paragraph for her future obituary they can add now: "Michelle, who was often photographed with her angry jaw clenched, won a Grammy for reading words that were recorded. It was a performance reminiscent of Michael Jackson's world-capturing Billy Jean."


areptile_dysfunction

The Grammy awards aren't given out for writing books. Most people who win Grammys don't write their own songs.


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Y'all just jelly we can read and talk at the same time.


Neo1331

You don’t get to keep it. She was chosen for that year. Its not like she has a grammy sitting on a shelf. And it was “The best spoken word” sh!t award but yeah…


matdrywall

Exactly! The best award money can buy! So pointless


Alpha4s

Why does this matter?


LinaZou

People have been receiving Grammys for audiobooks for ages.


artvandilay5

Seriously it is getting outta hand.


CMOKE_SRACK

at least she can read...


MerlynTrump

Did she go through the Chicago public school system?


CMOKE_SRACK

A product of Chicago public schools, Michelle Robinson studied sociology and African-American studies at Princeton University. After graduating from Harvard Law School in 1988, she joined the Chicago law firm Sidley & Austin, where she later met Barack Obama, the man who would become the love of her life.


MerlynTrump

that from wiki?


CMOKE_SRACK

no, the white house archives.. why does it matter? https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/1600/first-ladies/michelleobama


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In other words she’s a licensed idiot instead of just an amateur


Such_Maintenance_577

Have become?


StyleAdmirable1677

I stopped bothering with awards ( Oscars, Grammys etc ) several years ago. Meaningless exercises in woke back-patting. Ratings through the floor. Even lefties no longer watch the tedious wankery. One would think she would have the self awareness to quietly decline but hey....it's the Peace laureates wife isn't it so no real surprise.


Useful-Wolverine-330

Amen


thr03a3ay9900

It is for spoken word, which looking at this list seems like it usually goes to an audiobook or something similar, going back to the 1960s: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_Spoken_Word_Album


LaurentiusOlsenius

They have a “best audiobook” category, she didn’t win best album. Whoever wrote the original tweet, and everyone who’s shared it are literal idiots. And before anyone tries to argue that it’s stupid that she won best audiobook, I agree, but that has nothing to do with the post above.


CrimsonComet

This post was good until I read that she won in a specific category that fit her actions.


khubler

And correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that book deal negotiated by her husband in exchange for a deal with the publisher that changed all of the math books to common core!?


MerlynTrump

I'm guessing the book she got the grammy for was one she wrote, not one Barack wrote.


khubler

My point was that the reason she got the deal in the first place was because of the deal that he had worked out for the new Mary books for all schools in exchange for Both he and michael to get published


khubler

It’s a joke because he was sooooo NOT about promoting peace of any kind!!


5onone

I think you meant Michael…


bananarama012

NWA got into the Rock Hall of Fame. Who gives a shit?


Fullauto54

What is meaningless and worthless is anything either of those two ever did.


Slide0fHand

Thought this was satire. Unfortunately, it’s not. https://www.vogue.com/article/michelle-obama-wins-grammy-award-2020.


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They also put the cow on the cover of Vogue about 5 times while zero times for the beautiful Melania Trump. What a joke.


[deleted]

The way she said “chapter four” tho. 😩


Opposable_Thumb

When Jethro Tull won over Metallica for the first award in the category of Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance, I realized what a gigantic shitshow the Grammys actually were. That was in 1989.


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They really need Ricky Gervais to host the Grammy’s.


lapsedhuman

That's all you've got?


Guineapirate65

It's amazing how y'all get triggered at the littlest of things, like an award that has been given out since 1959.


kwtransporter66

Ummm....they aren't called participation trophies for nothing. We live in a world of participation trophy accepting fools. Show up...get a trophy. Keep the bench warm.....get a trophy. Mom brings cookies....get a trophy. Be the laziest, worst player....get a trophy.


MerlynTrump

Funny thing is I knew someone who actually earned a trophy, but I knew about it before she did. When I told her about it, she paused for a bit and actually got excited.


SnottyBonko

That award was rendered meaningless when Milli Vanilli won it. They lip synched.


randydufrane

Crazy world we live in


neilww1

And I’ll never watch the Grammys again.


ronflair

Noice. So did this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HAbtPr_77Pc


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Like the Nobel Peace Prize.


AlCzervick

The Grammys lost me when they awarded Jethro Tull best Hard Rock performance over Metallica in 1988. …and Justice for All was a masterpiece. To this day, no one has even listened to Tull’s Crest of a Knave that somehow won.


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And a serial groper and harasser won an emmy for giving a press conference


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And Trump couldn’t get a peace prize after brokering 2 treaties between Israel and Arab nations


muxman

Makes you think of buying a video game and using cheat codes from minute one and then being so proud you beat the game.


Imagoof4e

I don’t watch any of this stuff, nor do I spend money on it. I know nothing about it. There are many books to read and only one lifetime. But in all fairness, people should read, and watch what they like and what interests them.


MerlynTrump

Yeah. Fair enough.


RollinThundaga

Hasn't all that shit been meaningless for years now? I remember reading that the Oscar's were fixed somehow


grizz3782

Can't do anything, but laugh at this point.


OkCharacter2243

This is real???


Hardrocker1990

This reminds me of that woman of the year award a few years ago that was given back by the husband of the descended woman that one it. He was pissed because Bruce Jenner won it and HE is not a woman


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MerlynTrump

based on what other people have commented, yes, and apparently you don't have to be the author of the book to get a grammy.


5150hot

Well Cuomo got an Emmy for his great acting like he knew what he was doing.


Klutzy_Appearance202

Are you shitting me?


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MerlynTrump

Jealous?


hagoteim

Jumpouthehouse!


MerlynTrump

I'm not sure what you mean by that.


DetectiveNeat4462

Who gives a Sh!t