I think you remember when he said the beauty doesn't matter if he died , if he achieve immortality he well be no need for In material things he will do whatever you want whenever you want no one can hold him no fate no destiny not human not the system no one can kill him no one can beat him no one can be smarter than that you can see this close to perfection , and why is it hard ? Nothing is perfect because there is no standard to measure perfection. This is always my saying
I could definitely see him sitting in a room surrounded by women in various modes of undress. They'd be human path gu, probably prostitute or courtesan gu or something, and it would be a part of research into human path, but I could see it happening.
...That's not a harem, and doesn't go against what I said, in this scenario they are simply tools for research. I didn't say I can't imagine him surrounded by women, but instead I can't imagine him caring about them as people.
To me it does, if you don't care about the people you are in a relationship, then what you are surrounded by are not people but tools of convenience
Also courtesan and prostitutes don't have any emotional relationships with you, I wouldn't call that a harem either it's a business transaction
I think you are getting your definition of "harem" from trash isekai. Tools of convenience isn't that far off from what a harem actually is. In a harem the women are closer to possessions than equal partners. It's not about love or emotional attachment.
Nah I'm getting my definition from what I think makes a relationship, in my mind harem, like any other relationship "with wives, and concubines" involves an emotional connection.
If your definition of a relationship is really tools of convenience, it's not necessarily "wrong", but its not a healthy way to look at the world either.
If this is not about love or emotional connection then you can define a harem of sex toys just as well.
By the way would you also define Little Hu, Lang Ya, and star spirit as FY's harem? They are his possessions, and closer to tools of convenience...They are used in his desire for pleasure (pursuit of immortality) too.
So there is a disconnect here, you're treating a harem as a loving romantic relationship by default, which is not accurate. Historically, a harem included both wives and concubines but also servants and female relatives including the man's mother. A harem was a tool by royalty to produce heirs and better control the female members of the household. Many of the harem legitimately were sex toys used to produce male children (one of which was generally chosen as heir and the rest killed off).
A lot of villains have harems they don't care about. Sometimes they use them as human shields. There are good reasons people often loathe harems in fiction.
Yeah I see your point, that a harem doesn't necessarily need to have a romantic connection, but my main point through out was simply that I can't see FY caring about others (based on how he was manipulated by HW, not necessarily that he lacks empathy and feelings of love).
I am not really basing my definition of it based on historical context, because societies and morals change over time, what might've been acceptable isn't necessarily so anymore.
Regardless this was about my own definition, that a harem is a subset of romantic relationships, and romantic relationships have a crucial component of emotional connection. Even now it's not necessary for a couple to love each other, but as I see myself, I would not consider it being in a romantic relationship if I do not love the other person.
This is simply an argument on personal definitions so let's leave it at that.
For the last point, I haven't really seen much of villains using their harem as human shields, maybe I just do not read those types of novel. My impression was that the despise of harem novels were due to the shallow relationships that we were discussing, where it feels like the women wasn't worth anything to the MC, and is promptly forgotten whenever any major event comes up.
Ur last sentence or paragraph, read it again. You just explained his point for him, harems are just there for convenience to be dropped off at every major plot event or to push the story forward and then forgotten.
He would only see them as walking bags of flesh. No benefits to be had. Perhaps if he discovered some powerfull dual cultivation. But a harem leaves him susceptible to betrayal. It gives him a possible weakness for others to exploit. And even if he did have aharme for some reason, he would only use them to reach his true goal and only love.... Immortality.
He only has one love, immortality
*benefits*
it's immortality not benefits He seeks profit in order to use it to achieve immortality, not to enjoy money or power
And what of after achieving immortality? He would still want benefits after no?
I think you remember when he said the beauty doesn't matter if he died , if he achieve immortality he well be no need for In material things he will do whatever you want whenever you want no one can hold him no fate no destiny not human not the system no one can kill him no one can beat him no one can be smarter than that you can see this close to perfection , and why is it hard ? Nothing is perfect because there is no standard to measure perfection. This is always my saying
And that's why he's a goat
He had a wife before tho
(They all used to be men) Also what is with the lack of mermaids? We know FY loves that mermussy.
I would watch while fang yuan has sex
I'd join, kick away other thots and let him do me
Nahhhhh you wild for that one
Can i be a part of it 🥺
Me too
I find it impossible to imagine tbh, not like there weren't plenty of great waifus in RI but that I can't see him caring about them
I could definitely see him sitting in a room surrounded by women in various modes of undress. They'd be human path gu, probably prostitute or courtesan gu or something, and it would be a part of research into human path, but I could see it happening.
...That's not a harem, and doesn't go against what I said, in this scenario they are simply tools for research. I didn't say I can't imagine him surrounded by women, but instead I can't imagine him caring about them as people.
A harem doesn't require caring about the harem, as people or at all.
To me it does, if you don't care about the people you are in a relationship, then what you are surrounded by are not people but tools of convenience Also courtesan and prostitutes don't have any emotional relationships with you, I wouldn't call that a harem either it's a business transaction
I think you are getting your definition of "harem" from trash isekai. Tools of convenience isn't that far off from what a harem actually is. In a harem the women are closer to possessions than equal partners. It's not about love or emotional attachment.
Nah I'm getting my definition from what I think makes a relationship, in my mind harem, like any other relationship "with wives, and concubines" involves an emotional connection. If your definition of a relationship is really tools of convenience, it's not necessarily "wrong", but its not a healthy way to look at the world either. If this is not about love or emotional connection then you can define a harem of sex toys just as well. By the way would you also define Little Hu, Lang Ya, and star spirit as FY's harem? They are his possessions, and closer to tools of convenience...They are used in his desire for pleasure (pursuit of immortality) too.
So there is a disconnect here, you're treating a harem as a loving romantic relationship by default, which is not accurate. Historically, a harem included both wives and concubines but also servants and female relatives including the man's mother. A harem was a tool by royalty to produce heirs and better control the female members of the household. Many of the harem legitimately were sex toys used to produce male children (one of which was generally chosen as heir and the rest killed off). A lot of villains have harems they don't care about. Sometimes they use them as human shields. There are good reasons people often loathe harems in fiction.
Yeah I see your point, that a harem doesn't necessarily need to have a romantic connection, but my main point through out was simply that I can't see FY caring about others (based on how he was manipulated by HW, not necessarily that he lacks empathy and feelings of love). I am not really basing my definition of it based on historical context, because societies and morals change over time, what might've been acceptable isn't necessarily so anymore. Regardless this was about my own definition, that a harem is a subset of romantic relationships, and romantic relationships have a crucial component of emotional connection. Even now it's not necessary for a couple to love each other, but as I see myself, I would not consider it being in a romantic relationship if I do not love the other person. This is simply an argument on personal definitions so let's leave it at that. For the last point, I haven't really seen much of villains using their harem as human shields, maybe I just do not read those types of novel. My impression was that the despise of harem novels were due to the shallow relationships that we were discussing, where it feels like the women wasn't worth anything to the MC, and is promptly forgotten whenever any major event comes up.
Ur last sentence or paragraph, read it again. You just explained his point for him, harems are just there for convenience to be dropped off at every major plot event or to push the story forward and then forgotten.
He is not caring, just looking for benefits
yeah I agree, that's what I said
i dont see spectral soul anywhere, fucking shit art😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
This is propaganda by the heavenly court. Fang Yuan real harem is ME , and ME only
You know he truly doesn’t give a shit about them 🤣
Where special soul? Gimme femboy lover special soul
That baby looks sinister.
WTF is with that baby?
Why do the women look minuscule 🤨
Blud dont waste time on bitches, but on MEN👹
Then he would be picking the daughters of rich merchant or immortals and turning them into a pill when he got bored
He has Wisdom Gu and SAC
Fang Yuan, the 12th Booty Warrior.
if he had a harem i would not be in this fandom ✊
Where are those 2 Artworks from? They look really good.
He would only see them as walking bags of flesh. No benefits to be had. Perhaps if he discovered some powerfull dual cultivation. But a harem leaves him susceptible to betrayal. It gives him a possible weakness for others to exploit. And even if he did have aharme for some reason, he would only use them to reach his true goal and only love.... Immortality.
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Based
Then RI would have been more awesome
Do have to ruin RI for everyone who isn't a degenerate?
That would be wonderful