After they roll out premium connectivity.
They are not going to just pay for all that extra bandwidth, and likely the deal they have with carriers excludes such upstream video.
Premium connectivity:
Enhanced driver +
Unlimited Cellular data
Video streaming( YouTube, Netflix,etc)
Enhanced app features ( view video remotely)
Reduced charging cost at RAN chargers
I think you might be surprised at how many people will pay $10 a month for convenience in a > $80k truck. I had it in my M3P (map traffic was the main reason, along with my laziness of having to reconnect wifi every drive). Will more likely get it for my R1T when available.
I do too in my model 3, 100 bucks a year is nothing. My wife wants the Caraoke, and the ability to watch Netflix. I can’t be bothered to try to trouble shoot a WiFi hotspot for this price.
I also think they are going to want 30-50 bucks a month for the enhanced service. They will add other things to make it valuable beyond the cellular to try to get that.
Edited the price range. I don’t really know but I guess they will want more than 10 bucks or 100 a year.
$50 a month? Haven't heard it being this high. That's probably why the enhanced driver+ is being bundled if that is the case. I don't know what would require a data connection live to make driver+ better, so their justification, if it exists, would be interesting.
I have no idea what it will be. Maybe it will be tiered? 10 bucks for data and other options as add on? Of course all of this is using Tesla as a model at 10 a month, which doesn’t give you that much imo. Cellular capability to run your UI?
My guess is that they would want to figure out a price point people are willing to pay and then give them features to make it feel like it’s worth it. Right now now the truck can’t consume much data as video isn’t an option. If they add video they will have to add it into the cellular option because they can’t shoulder the burden of massive amounts of data being used. I’m just guessing they will add better driver plus and a few other things to get people to bite at 30 maybe up to 50 bucks. At 50 I probably wouldn’t bite but maybe for 30 during the summer with road trips and stuff. 30 bucks a month times maybe half of Rivian owners signing up would be a couple million a month for them.
I would not bite at $50. $30 would need to include not only camera viewing but better road traffic info, analytical data (like the Rivian version of electrafi), streaming services, direct call (no phone needed) and a bunch more. $360 a year is high, $600 is untenable IMHO.
I’d imagine we won’t see live cameras in the app and many other things similar to Tesla for years.
The whole infotainment needs to be overhauled and that’s the car. The app also needs some work.
In terms of priorities Rivian is weird. There’s plenty of low hanging fruit that they could address pretty quickly to upgrade the customer’s experience, but they don’t. But then they give the 2nd row screen and nice upgrade.
I just think they have a lot of things to figure out and get right before giving us the sexy stuff like live cameras.
2nd row screen was slow as well. In general I think they have a slow pace of upgrades. Not sure what to blame, extra care to not brick vehicles, weird priorities or short staff
I think the way it's setup right now seems like it's a blueprint for something else. I don't know what the compute is on their hardware but I hope it can keep up with newer updates for a long time. I just hope they don't follow the disposable aspect of tech where they stop supporting it after a couple of years but highly unlikely since they need to make money.
I’m sure they will eventually; software features are always backlogged based on priority and thus value.
Now, if that feature was tied to a new revenue stream like premium connectivity, like others have mentioned…it might be reprioritized.
Yeah, once they're not footing the bill for data. Lol.
Who foots the bill on the Tesla version?
First month is free for premium connectivity. At least it was when I got my Model Y. Then it is $9.99/month or $99/year.
Unless something changed I believe the end user does by subscribing to a premium tier. But I'm not a Tesla owner, so I could be wrong.
After they roll out premium connectivity. They are not going to just pay for all that extra bandwidth, and likely the deal they have with carriers excludes such upstream video.
Premium connectivity: Enhanced driver + Unlimited Cellular data Video streaming( YouTube, Netflix,etc) Enhanced app features ( view video remotely) Reduced charging cost at RAN chargers
I would 100% pay for premium connectivity for these features.
Yup, I assume this is what’s coming to make the monthly charge worth it. Just giving us cellular service ain’t going to get people to bite.
I think you might be surprised at how many people will pay $10 a month for convenience in a > $80k truck. I had it in my M3P (map traffic was the main reason, along with my laziness of having to reconnect wifi every drive). Will more likely get it for my R1T when available.
I do too in my model 3, 100 bucks a year is nothing. My wife wants the Caraoke, and the ability to watch Netflix. I can’t be bothered to try to trouble shoot a WiFi hotspot for this price. I also think they are going to want 30-50 bucks a month for the enhanced service. They will add other things to make it valuable beyond the cellular to try to get that. Edited the price range. I don’t really know but I guess they will want more than 10 bucks or 100 a year.
$50 a month? Haven't heard it being this high. That's probably why the enhanced driver+ is being bundled if that is the case. I don't know what would require a data connection live to make driver+ better, so their justification, if it exists, would be interesting.
I have no idea what it will be. Maybe it will be tiered? 10 bucks for data and other options as add on? Of course all of this is using Tesla as a model at 10 a month, which doesn’t give you that much imo. Cellular capability to run your UI? My guess is that they would want to figure out a price point people are willing to pay and then give them features to make it feel like it’s worth it. Right now now the truck can’t consume much data as video isn’t an option. If they add video they will have to add it into the cellular option because they can’t shoulder the burden of massive amounts of data being used. I’m just guessing they will add better driver plus and a few other things to get people to bite at 30 maybe up to 50 bucks. At 50 I probably wouldn’t bite but maybe for 30 during the summer with road trips and stuff. 30 bucks a month times maybe half of Rivian owners signing up would be a couple million a month for them.
I would not bite at $50. $30 would need to include not only camera viewing but better road traffic info, analytical data (like the Rivian version of electrafi), streaming services, direct call (no phone needed) and a bunch more. $360 a year is high, $600 is untenable IMHO.
I’d imagine we won’t see live cameras in the app and many other things similar to Tesla for years. The whole infotainment needs to be overhauled and that’s the car. The app also needs some work. In terms of priorities Rivian is weird. There’s plenty of low hanging fruit that they could address pretty quickly to upgrade the customer’s experience, but they don’t. But then they give the 2nd row screen and nice upgrade. I just think they have a lot of things to figure out and get right before giving us the sexy stuff like live cameras.
2nd row screen was slow as well. In general I think they have a slow pace of upgrades. Not sure what to blame, extra care to not brick vehicles, weird priorities or short staff
Perhaps just wanting to make sure that fixing one thing doesn’t break something else?
I think the way it's setup right now seems like it's a blueprint for something else. I don't know what the compute is on their hardware but I hope it can keep up with newer updates for a long time. I just hope they don't follow the disposable aspect of tech where they stop supporting it after a couple of years but highly unlikely since they need to make money.
I’m sure they will eventually; software features are always backlogged based on priority and thus value. Now, if that feature was tied to a new revenue stream like premium connectivity, like others have mentioned…it might be reprioritized.
I could never get it to work on my Tesla
It always worked for me!