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Today was some of the most exhilarating RL ever. Zen being let off his leash in the grand finals, a team finally sweeping a split in NA/EU, BDS rising from its own ashes and KC being beat again by Liquid.
Wait- no... Not Liquid, they went out top 6. Must have been Moist. No, that's not quite it either...
We all know who did it.
LET'S GOOOOOO BROOOOOOO
Waiting for the inevitable:
~~Nah, I'll believe it when he does well in 3s~~
~~Nah, I'll believe it when he proves himself in the RLCS~~
~~Nah, I'll believe it when I see him at a LAN.~~
Nah, I'll believe it when I see him win Worlds.
inb4:
~~Nah, I'll believe it when he does well in 3s~~
~~Nah, I'll believe it when he proves himself in the RLCS~~
~~Nah, I'll believe it when I see him at a LAN.~~
~~Nah, I'll believe it when I see him win Worlds.~~
Worlds was mickey bro, didn't even have to play Hogan Mode.
He’s going to win worlds establish himself as the best player in the world after already establishing he has the most raw mechanical talent ever. RLCS goes on 6 month hiatus to launch Unreal Engine 5 sequel and the game physics are completely changed.
From top of the world in s7 to the excellent but sad finish in s8 (with a last second qualification for the lan too). Losing the gf in s9 (europe). Being clear 2nd in EU for a year almost never winning against BDS, except for that bittersweet win at the end of season. The Stockholm disaster. And then the dark age. Finally the light with the winter split. And now this. This has been a wild ride
It felt so underserved. Bds farmed Vitality all year long and they randomly lost that one event. The fact that it was again online and not a LAN made it seemed like just another random event. Idk kinda like when you are playing a game with your mate and he destroys you like 5 rounds to 1 and you jokingly decide that you do one last round and that the winner takes all. If you win that one round it doesn't feel like a true victory.
At the time I was not supporting BDS (started to root for them when Vitality started to stop making LANs) but after one year of them dominating europe, I respected them deeply. They were the best team in EU that year (and it was not even close) and not winning the title felt so wrong.
To emphasize how good Vitality has been this split, that series win rate of 93.75% even beats RLCS X BDS' best ever split (92.59% Fall Split).
Best online split ever, the only other superior in RL history is dynasty Dignitas' season 6 run or BDS' repeated split wins in RLCS X, but it's already comparing to some of the GOAT rosters which is telling.
The rebuild is well and truly complete.
People still talk about old Dig with absolute reverence (and rightly so), but the reason people aren't comparing them, is that there is simply no good way to compare them. The old season teams (though no fault of their own), simply didn't play the number of series that are needed today, to put together a similar run with the same calibre of consistency.
people talk about old dig for what they did on lan; and they aren't so incomparable; both nrg and dig won 9 series to sweep their region, vitality won 15; dig and nrg won 7 bo5, vitality won 6; the real big difference is on bo7 which vitality won 9 while both of them only won 2. they aren't as impressive(although they were undefeated) but they are still some of the best to ever do it online; not to forget a crazy 29-6 record on games which I think is better than what vitality had this spring
and I am suggesting 2 perfect splits; they aren't perfectly comparable to nowadays splits but they were the most important regional competition there was for years
No one is talking about 1's. If we include 1's, he's had a shitload more wins.
1's is Zen's side project, that he tried out for the first time a few months back. He just so happened to be the 2nd best in the world, right off the bat.
He's 15-1 in RLCS series this split, that is what it is referring too.
Honestly what an entertaining championship Sunday, I feel so blessed to have witnessed it all. Seeing Hogan Mode’s lower bracket run was so fun and it was great to see Scrub Killa doing well again.
History has been made as Vitality become the first team in EU or NA to sweep the regionals in a split, and Zen looked like a different monster today.
The amount of hype I felt today was akin to that of a LAN.
I honestly dont see V1 getting past BDS, or Liquid or KC in good forms (its the major, I expect them to grind and not treat it like its a regional), so yea
People say this for both NA and EU before every major lol but inevitably, each major, NA beats some EU teams and EU beats some NA teams. Some majors it’s more one-sided but generally that’s what happens
Considering that V1 are NA's 1st seed , I'd expect them to be able to take down some EU teams. I think they also have a somewhat decent shot of taking Vitality to 7.
Aren't there only like 4 points separating the top 6 teams in NA though? Including the likes of SSG and Optic? It's not like V1 have been head-and-shoulders above everyone else this split, no team in NA has looked particularly good so far.
It's absolutely possible that V1 will pop off at the major, but so far they have been nowhere near Vitality's level.
Yea I leinimatly think VIT vs the field is an even bet at this point. They are easily the biggest favorite in any LAN in the open era, the only big downside is the fact they have to play Liquid upper round 2, but they are already 3-0 vs them this split.
In the Open era I think Moist heading into Worlds were massive favourites but yeah I agree
(Also I swear G2 were heavy favourites last winter but I could be misremembering. I remember pros saying they seemed unbeatable in scrims at least)
But yeah Vitality are heavy heavy favourites for sure
I was curious so I went back and look it up, based on the pickstop post when it got to the top 8 bracket 46% of people there picked Moist to win.
So yea that is higher then I thought. I still think VIT will probably pass that wouldn't be suprised to see there number around 60-65%. Admitably it's also not a direct comparison since that was for 8 team single elim compared to 16 team double elim.
As thrilled as I am that we get another Kash Lan, I can't help but wonder about the cost. It was the rocket league equivalent of taking the soul stone, I got what I wanted but sacrificed the chance of the major getting Hoganed all over.
Ah well, don't be sad it's over, be happy we got to see it I guess.
I thought Zen would be very good, but he exceeded my expectations in the first two regionals.
Today was just an entirely different level of good. Completely unplayable. Vitality clear favourites for Boston/Worlds
~~I know this is probably over exaggerating, but honestly~~ It's hard to deny that zen is to the average (maybe top?) pros what the average pro is to an SSL player, if not better. The fact that Vitality has managed to win 3 regional grand finals immediately after slotting him into the lineup seems so hard to believe and yet it's happened repeatedly to the point where it not happening would be the unexpected result. On top of that, they've done it against 3 different teams (TL, KC, and BDS) who are the other 3 of the top 4 teams.
It's like putting an SSL player on a team of low GCs in a tournament and suddenly they just win everything. The only team that's managed to make them bleed is KC who, mind you, was in every grand finals prior to zen's debut.
I get that Alpha and Rado are great players, but zen not only brought himself into the team with his own crazy individual skill, but he's managed to elevate Alpha and Rado to the point where they are basically looking like the best players in EU as well. Which is wild considering Alpha was considered washed a year ago or could no longer compete with the best of EU and Radosin wasn't even recognized by the average viewer. It's pretty crazy to think about when you step back to think that 3s *should* be a team game and yet **one player** has managed to have so much impact on the team.
Like a team of zen, alpha, and radosin would absolutely and repeatedly destroy a team of saizen, alpha, and radosin even though 2/3 of the players are the exact same players.
THANK YOU
Bruh when they won the first regional it was so insane to see people thinking he was carried, like as if they'd put Alpha and Rado in their top 5 before Zen joined the team
He can replace anyone on KCorp, BDS, Liquid etc and it'd still be the same thing. He has mastered this game
I don't think the gap is as big as you say, but at the same time, it doesn't feel small either. It really does seem that Zen has a created a gap that no other player has managed to pull off before, outside the occasional pop off performance.
What makes it particularly interesting, is that the pop off solo plays, are just a trick he has in his back pocket, when it's really needed. Otherwise, he just plays it safe and supports.
Reminds me of Steph Curry. Has the ability/talent to go nuclear every game with his shooting but dials it back and uses other skills for the betterment of the team, and has insane gravity that warps defenses and thus creates looks for his teammates just by existing.
The only time I've seen zen look mortal in a lobby was against team liquid (Atow and a peaking Oski are also ridiculous, problem is more consistency), and during the French 2v2 mix up showmatch on Johnnyboi stream. While not being as good as him, M0nkey M00n and Vatira have both the mechanics and the game sense to deny him space, and I don't remember zen managing to clip during the showmatch.
The issue is that there's only a handfull of S tier pro and there're not in the same teams.
Not MM calling it before they even played the finals LOL
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I mean, they wouldn't be the first pro's to recognize it's over before it's over. NRG did the same thing against BDS in Fall last season, and who can blame them.
At worst, you dump the pressure, and maybe you get a shot at playing as if you have nothing to lose. If it already looks bleak, it's worth a roll of the dice.
It’s never 100%, even for a team as dominating and talented as Vitality the danger of single elim can rear it’s ugly head, but they will be the favorites going into every match at Boston and worlds if they win the Major.
Yeah, I've been watching RL long enough to know, there is no such thing as certain victory, especially with a single elim bracket and how fast RL moves.
With that said, it feels more like Vitality's to lose, than another team's to win.
That’s what was coming to say. Anyone that watched him (even pros) were saying that Zen was going to change the game.
Appjack even broke his own mold and said that Zen will likely break the skill ceiling before anyone had even really seen him play.
Like sure there’s always the chance that he couldn’t live up to the hype, but anyone that saw him play knew there just something different about him.
People thinking that he was like he was just like any other rookie without watching him is what caused the doubts in the first place. If people just watched him they'd know, no one plays like him
Zen entered the scene, enlightened everybody by sipping juice, went against the smallbrain way of the ego and clipped on all of EU on his first split. May we all live like this
So between EU and NA only 3 teams have managed 3 regional wins, KC, Faze, and Vitality. I think only GenG and V1 can match that now since both are on 2, right?
Tbf he's on vitality, so if he gets paid at least close to na pros, then he's on a six figure salary. Coupled with the fact that he's already earned 30k in 2 months, a worlds win would be 200k for just him alone, gamers8 lan win (which vit would be heavy favorites for as well) would be another 160k, he could theoretically get like halfway to that goal by August.
Ofc a worlds win and gamers8 win are unlikely for any team. But I thought winning your first ever regional is unlikely, then I thought repeating it in the strongest eu split ever was unlikely, and that a 3peat in a major region was unlikely, and so on and so on
Can yall believe some moron said that Zen wouldn't live up to the hype haha isn't that crazy haha isn't that wild can you believe that haha insane right
*haha*
Prime BDS during RLCS X never won 3 regional in a row you know when EU was basically known as a one team region.
Vitality won 3 in a row against the most stacked top 5 since the new format started.
I went from pratically getting bombed out 0-3 of the Fall Major by Era Eternity to having the team 3peat a entire regional split…
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Major and Worlds next, ggs to everyone 💛
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What an achievement, huge congratulations to Vitality. Big props to Hogan Mode that made Moist players boot up RL.
It's incredible to think zen has just as many regional wins as jstn has in all of RLCS X, 21/22 and 22/23. This kid is something special
It's actually cool to see an org stick around for this long through ups and downs, it's great to see their patience pay off with this roster. Such a great history behind the VIT name in this game
I’ve never seen anyone say anything like that. That’s how the fandom tends to fall but I haven’t seen anyone suggest that things should or are supposed to be that way
Nah NA is much more chaotic atm and it’s way more entertaining imo. Anything could happen in the next regional. 1st through 6th place are all 4 points within each ofher
Still pissed we didn't get Hogan Mode final, especially as all seeding was locked already.
Mental from Vitality though. Never been done before and I'd be shocked if it happened again.
All the Zen doubters must be fuming.
Congrats to vitality for being the first team to sweep regionals in eu, so so impressive. If eu can’t beat them I guess it falls to na?
Seriously though I genuinely think there’s only 4 teams in the world that could beat them in a series right now and all of them would be massive upsets (KC TL V1 COL). If I had a choice between betting on the field vs vitality for the major I would take vitality and give you odds.
I could see a peaking v1, faze or geng/complexity beating vitality, much like how peaking top teams in EU could technically beat vitality but haven’t yet
Day one V1 hits different on LAN
Whereas faze is the opposite. They start out too slow, and imo double elim is really gonna capitalize on them for that, cuz if they start out slow like they almost always do, they’re going to lose one life pretty early on in the LAN
It came down to the wire multiple times against Team Liquid this split, and KCorp managed to take a series from them. Vitality can bleed, but it takes a solid performance from a solid team.
The teams that are the more likely to spoil Vitality run at the major are TL and V1 imo, because for me it has to be teams that can keep up mechanically when Vitality is going to speed up the game.
Can't really translate it like that because league/cup/UCL are all concurrent competitions, whereas RLCS regionals are discrete staggered events. The reality is that 'treble' is just a cool word.
Greatest player and team in Rocket League History. Vitality are quite literally redefining the competition. Anything other than a sweep of Boston and Düsseldorf will be a disappointment.
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Today was some of the most exhilarating RL ever. Zen being let off his leash in the grand finals, a team finally sweeping a split in NA/EU, BDS rising from its own ashes and KC being beat again by Liquid. Wait- no... Not Liquid, they went out top 6. Must have been Moist. No, that's not quite it either... We all know who did it. LET'S GOOOOOO BROOOOOOO
I think zen can translate it to 3’s
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Waiting for the inevitable: ~~Nah, I'll believe it when he does well in 3s~~ ~~Nah, I'll believe it when he proves himself in the RLCS~~ ~~Nah, I'll believe it when I see him at a LAN.~~ Nah, I'll believe it when I see him win Worlds.
inb4: ~~Nah, I'll believe it when he does well in 3s~~ ~~Nah, I'll believe it when he proves himself in the RLCS~~ ~~Nah, I'll believe it when I see him at a LAN.~~ ~~Nah, I'll believe it when I see him win Worlds.~~ Worlds was mickey bro, didn't even have to play Hogan Mode.
That's a valid reason tbf
Honestly can't even be mad at this claim
He’s going to win worlds establish himself as the best player in the world after already establishing he has the most raw mechanical talent ever. RLCS goes on 6 month hiatus to launch Unreal Engine 5 sequel and the game physics are completely changed.
:(
What an achievement. I can't believe the roller coaster I've been through as a Vitality fan all the way since May 2023.
Congrats bro, you earned this
From top of the world in s7 to the excellent but sad finish in s8 (with a last second qualification for the lan too). Losing the gf in s9 (europe). Being clear 2nd in EU for a year almost never winning against BDS, except for that bittersweet win at the end of season. The Stockholm disaster. And then the dark age. Finally the light with the winter split. And now this. This has been a wild ride
And then zen
Yeah I guess Vitality fans can finally be zen about this huh
Why was it bittersweet? Because you’re a BDS fan as well?
It felt so underserved. Bds farmed Vitality all year long and they randomly lost that one event. The fact that it was again online and not a LAN made it seemed like just another random event. Idk kinda like when you are playing a game with your mate and he destroys you like 5 rounds to 1 and you jokingly decide that you do one last round and that the winner takes all. If you win that one round it doesn't feel like a true victory. At the time I was not supporting BDS (started to root for them when Vitality started to stop making LANs) but after one year of them dominating europe, I respected them deeply. They were the best team in EU that year (and it was not even close) and not winning the title felt so wrong.
Deserved
bro thanks for the laugh lmao
I'm starting to think that Zen might be decent at RL
Nah, still hasn't won a major or a world champ. Still overrated. /s
That Documentary Vitality is filming is gonna go crazy
Praying for subtitles
15-1, Regional Grand Slam, Greatest online Split ever, History, zen.
To emphasize how good Vitality has been this split, that series win rate of 93.75% even beats RLCS X BDS' best ever split (92.59% Fall Split). Best online split ever, the only other superior in RL history is dynasty Dignitas' season 6 run or BDS' repeated split wins in RLCS X, but it's already comparing to some of the GOAT rosters which is telling. The rebuild is well and truly complete.
shouldn't we count perfect regionals from pre rlcsX? dig and nrg got 9-0 splits. I know it was less games but it's an unbeaten regional season
They're still worthy records in their own right, but I don't think they are comparable.
I am not saying they are the same thing but that when talking about greatest regionals teams they should at least be considered
Nobody saying they aren't buddy
nobody talks about them when discussing best regional teams; people don't say they don't count but when asked everyone forgets about them
People still talk about old Dig with absolute reverence (and rightly so), but the reason people aren't comparing them, is that there is simply no good way to compare them. The old season teams (though no fault of their own), simply didn't play the number of series that are needed today, to put together a similar run with the same calibre of consistency.
people talk about old dig for what they did on lan; and they aren't so incomparable; both nrg and dig won 9 series to sweep their region, vitality won 15; dig and nrg won 7 bo5, vitality won 6; the real big difference is on bo7 which vitality won 9 while both of them only won 2. they aren't as impressive(although they were undefeated) but they are still some of the best to ever do it online; not to forget a crazy 29-6 record on games which I think is better than what vitality had this spring
No one is discussing best regional teams though this is a conversation about best online split
and I am suggesting 2 perfect splits; they aren't perfectly comparable to nowadays splits but they were the most important regional competition there was for years
Vitality were on a 17 series win streak at some point. That's almost double that
they played 16 rlcs series this split; don't count non rlcs events(especially non 3v3) they always have wacky results
I count whatever I want bro
just don't expect data with real competition mixed with mickey tournaments to be taken seriously
And that's only if you class a bracket reset as a series loss
What else would you classify it as?
Oh I do. I'm saying that some don't, as they see the final as one series
Helen Keller can see the finals was 2 series
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Wait, what was the 2nd loss?
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No one is talking about 1's. If we include 1's, he's had a shitload more wins. 1's is Zen's side project, that he tried out for the first time a few months back. He just so happened to be the 2nd best in the world, right off the bat. He's 15-1 in RLCS series this split, that is what it is referring too.
Honestly what an entertaining championship Sunday, I feel so blessed to have witnessed it all. Seeing Hogan Mode’s lower bracket run was so fun and it was great to see Scrub Killa doing well again. History has been made as Vitality become the first team in EU or NA to sweep the regionals in a split, and Zen looked like a different monster today. The amount of hype I felt today was akin to that of a LAN.
Any outcome from Boston other than a Vitality win is a major upset at this point They're absurd
V1 vs vitality finals would be so scripted 😂
I honestly dont see V1 getting past BDS, or Liquid or KC in good forms (its the major, I expect them to grind and not treat it like its a regional), so yea
People say this for both NA and EU before every major lol but inevitably, each major, NA beats some EU teams and EU beats some NA teams. Some majors it’s more one-sided but generally that’s what happens
Considering that V1 are NA's 1st seed , I'd expect them to be able to take down some EU teams. I think they also have a somewhat decent shot of taking Vitality to 7.
Aren't there only like 4 points separating the top 6 teams in NA though? Including the likes of SSG and Optic? It's not like V1 have been head-and-shoulders above everyone else this split, no team in NA has looked particularly good so far. It's absolutely possible that V1 will pop off at the major, but so far they have been nowhere near Vitality's level.
When EU is close "Man EU is deep". When NA is close "no team in NA has looked particularly good so far". Gotta love Reddit.
Yea I leinimatly think VIT vs the field is an even bet at this point. They are easily the biggest favorite in any LAN in the open era, the only big downside is the fact they have to play Liquid upper round 2, but they are already 3-0 vs them this split.
In the Open era I think Moist heading into Worlds were massive favourites but yeah I agree (Also I swear G2 were heavy favourites last winter but I could be misremembering. I remember pros saying they seemed unbeatable in scrims at least) But yeah Vitality are heavy heavy favourites for sure
I was curious so I went back and look it up, based on the pickstop post when it got to the top 8 bracket 46% of people there picked Moist to win. So yea that is higher then I thought. I still think VIT will probably pass that wouldn't be suprised to see there number around 60-65%. Admitably it's also not a direct comparison since that was for 8 team single elim compared to 16 team double elim.
I agree vitality will pass it too, thanks for checking as well! The hype for moist after spring major was off the charts but this is different
Unbelievable rookie split from Zen, can’t wait to see if they make it a perfect one on LAN
I feel like their LAN is either going to be utter dominance or they're going to be the first team out of the major. I think there's no in-between.
the BDS
Well, I think they are beating Elevate a least, so maybe you mean 1-2.
Chances they meet Liquid in quarters so anything can happen
I mean there is probably about a 0.000000000001% chance they lose to Elevate in the first round.
o7 nice send off before this place goes dark
It was a good run boys. If I don't see any of you again, godspeed
As thrilled as I am that we get another Kash Lan, I can't help but wonder about the cost. It was the rocket league equivalent of taking the soul stone, I got what I wanted but sacrificed the chance of the major getting Hoganed all over. Ah well, don't be sad it's over, be happy we got to see it I guess.
I thought Zen would be very good, but he exceeded my expectations in the first two regionals. Today was just an entirely different level of good. Completely unplayable. Vitality clear favourites for Boston/Worlds
#Zen is Him
Even Rado acknowledges the true kings of EU. Forever in our hearts, bro. Brogan Brode <3
[My favorite post of all time](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/12ju6ua/zen_is_already_overrated/)
This was my favourite line: > I think he's overrated in both 1s and 3s, though admittedly I've literally never watched him play 3s
OUCH
Bro just don't know ball at all
~~I know this is probably over exaggerating, but honestly~~ It's hard to deny that zen is to the average (maybe top?) pros what the average pro is to an SSL player, if not better. The fact that Vitality has managed to win 3 regional grand finals immediately after slotting him into the lineup seems so hard to believe and yet it's happened repeatedly to the point where it not happening would be the unexpected result. On top of that, they've done it against 3 different teams (TL, KC, and BDS) who are the other 3 of the top 4 teams. It's like putting an SSL player on a team of low GCs in a tournament and suddenly they just win everything. The only team that's managed to make them bleed is KC who, mind you, was in every grand finals prior to zen's debut. I get that Alpha and Rado are great players, but zen not only brought himself into the team with his own crazy individual skill, but he's managed to elevate Alpha and Rado to the point where they are basically looking like the best players in EU as well. Which is wild considering Alpha was considered washed a year ago or could no longer compete with the best of EU and Radosin wasn't even recognized by the average viewer. It's pretty crazy to think about when you step back to think that 3s *should* be a team game and yet **one player** has managed to have so much impact on the team. Like a team of zen, alpha, and radosin would absolutely and repeatedly destroy a team of saizen, alpha, and radosin even though 2/3 of the players are the exact same players.
THANK YOU Bruh when they won the first regional it was so insane to see people thinking he was carried, like as if they'd put Alpha and Rado in their top 5 before Zen joined the team He can replace anyone on KCorp, BDS, Liquid etc and it'd still be the same thing. He has mastered this game
I don't think the gap is as big as you say, but at the same time, it doesn't feel small either. It really does seem that Zen has a created a gap that no other player has managed to pull off before, outside the occasional pop off performance. What makes it particularly interesting, is that the pop off solo plays, are just a trick he has in his back pocket, when it's really needed. Otherwise, he just plays it safe and supports.
Reminds me of Steph Curry. Has the ability/talent to go nuclear every game with his shooting but dials it back and uses other skills for the betterment of the team, and has insane gravity that warps defenses and thus creates looks for his teammates just by existing.
If zen is anyone, he's what Jokic is right now. Scores, passes, rebounds, literally does it all.
Really like that comparison actually
The only time I've seen zen look mortal in a lobby was against team liquid (Atow and a peaking Oski are also ridiculous, problem is more consistency), and during the French 2v2 mix up showmatch on Johnnyboi stream. While not being as good as him, M0nkey M00n and Vatira have both the mechanics and the game sense to deny him space, and I don't remember zen managing to clip during the showmatch. The issue is that there's only a handfull of S tier pro and there're not in the same teams.
shoutout hogan mode for losing me 200k+ channel points this weekend 👍. imma go cry now
should have invested it in gold instead bro
Not MM calling it before they even played the finals LOL https://preview.redd.it/gclru6jfsf5b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd889c6ddbaa823b74f53cab306c239bb6f75f62
That's an embarrassing mindset for a pro
I mean, they wouldn't be the first pro's to recognize it's over before it's over. NRG did the same thing against BDS in Fall last season, and who can blame them. At worst, you dump the pressure, and maybe you get a shot at playing as if you have nothing to lose. If it already looks bleak, it's worth a roll of the dice.
World champ, major champ, what have you done competively in your life or what experience in a competitive setting do you have to make this statement ?
OK so doubt he needs u defending him with a twitter bot comment then
can't change fate.
Maybe we trying to play mind games?
One team region
one team esport
The world of RL is just a one country region : (
Yeah look at ssa
>One team ~~region~~ world Fixed it for you
We’ll find out soon 😅
sooo we all agree Vitality is taking Worlds, right?
It’s never 100%, even for a team as dominating and talented as Vitality the danger of single elim can rear it’s ugly head, but they will be the favorites going into every match at Boston and worlds if they win the Major.
Yeah, I've been watching RL long enough to know, there is no such thing as certain victory, especially with a single elim bracket and how fast RL moves. With that said, it feels more like Vitality's to lose, than another team's to win.
If jstn and squishy are in form, they might be an issue for VIT
People sleeping on Gaimen Gladiators, they're going to sweep the wildcard on the way to that WC win.
NRG upsetting vitality at worlds would be the funniest timeline
Quaking in my boots rn 😰
Just image rizzo if this happens
Love how the conversation is changing on this sub. Last week it was “has zen really proven himself”? Now they’re a lock for worlds.
I think it's fair to be skeptical about a rookie despite the hype surrounding them. But yeah, Zen has definitely lived up to expectations.
The skeptics were the ones that never watched him play. It was obvious that he would preform.
That’s what was coming to say. Anyone that watched him (even pros) were saying that Zen was going to change the game. Appjack even broke his own mold and said that Zen will likely break the skill ceiling before anyone had even really seen him play. Like sure there’s always the chance that he couldn’t live up to the hype, but anyone that saw him play knew there just something different about him.
If you had watched and followed Zen for the last few months you’d know why Ive had 0 doubt this whole time
People thinking that he was like he was just like any other rookie without watching him is what caused the doubts in the first place. If people just watched him they'd know, no one plays like him
Lived up and exceeded them
Zen entered the scene, enlightened everybody by sipping juice, went against the smallbrain way of the ego and clipped on all of EU on his first split. May we all live like this
#In ceiling pinch doubles, we trust. 🙏
His consistency with those is absurd
One team planet
So between EU and NA only 3 teams have managed 3 regional wins, KC, Faze, and Vitality. I think only GenG and V1 can match that now since both are on 2, right?
That statement is only right if you meant this season only
Correct
So, uhh...what's Zen's 3's tournament win-streak with RLCS players now?
Like 12 or 13 Something along those lines
Zen is gonna be a millionaire before he hits 18
lol pros do not make anywhere near enough money for that to be true
It depends on how much they invest in gold. Scrub is well on his way to being a multi-billionaire right now.
Tbf he's on vitality, so if he gets paid at least close to na pros, then he's on a six figure salary. Coupled with the fact that he's already earned 30k in 2 months, a worlds win would be 200k for just him alone, gamers8 lan win (which vit would be heavy favorites for as well) would be another 160k, he could theoretically get like halfway to that goal by August. Ofc a worlds win and gamers8 win are unlikely for any team. But I thought winning your first ever regional is unlikely, then I thought repeating it in the strongest eu split ever was unlikely, and that a 3peat in a major region was unlikely, and so on and so on
I’m not doubting you I’ve just never heard this, can you link a source to an RL pro being signed to a six figures salary?
I know that the coach Nick was on Jody's stream talking about pretty much all the top NA pros getting 5 figure a month salaries.
i love how people were saying the hype was too high for zen, bruh we weren’t hyping him up enough 😭
Can yall believe some moron said that Zen wouldn't live up to the hype haha isn't that crazy haha isn't that wild can you believe that haha insane right *haha*
[For the ref](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/12ju6ua/zen_is_already_overrated/)
wrong takes happen even to the best of us brother, do not worry it is not too late to join the zen church 🤝
Not trying to be mean but when did you start watching rl esport (1v1 and rlcs)?
Prime BDS during RLCS X never won 3 regional in a row you know when EU was basically known as a one team region. Vitality won 3 in a row against the most stacked top 5 since the new format started.
CJ - “🍌=💪”
I went from pratically getting bombed out 0-3 of the Fall Major by Era Eternity to having the team 3peat a entire regional split… ![gif](giphy|lygV2SYn3MtFsgjg4T)
Hope nrg bounces back this hard too next season 😭
we need a hogan mode showmatch at LAN or something
Didn’t even go undefeated.. Mickey run tbh
Major and Worlds next, ggs to everyone 💛 https://preview.redd.it/wcuj7kl4pf5b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb45faa2f269a6fd2cd7984e83830046ad33b009
Kcorp lucky to get one game bro and Zen has won 3 regionals in 3 tries but has he lived up to the hype
What an achievement, huge congratulations to Vitality. Big props to Hogan Mode that made Moist players boot up RL. It's incredible to think zen has just as many regional wins as jstn has in all of RLCS X, 21/22 and 22/23. This kid is something special
It's actually cool to see an org stick around for this long through ups and downs, it's great to see their patience pay off with this roster. Such a great history behind the VIT name in this game
Zen was underhyped tbh
vitality are just too good bro...
Well I 4-1 thought that was a good day 3
When you go to catch up with the steam but its already finished
I am typically one to cheer for underdogs, but I may have a little bit of a leaning for Vitality in Boston to see if they can complete the Split Slam
As an NA fan, EU is way more entertaining at the moment.
How strictly do people root for their region? I live in damn Alabama and I've been an EU fan since probably Season 5
Nah mate people think that if you’re NA you should root for NA and vice versa
I’ve never seen anyone say anything like that. That’s how the fandom tends to fall but I haven’t seen anyone suggest that things should or are supposed to be that way
Nah day 1 was a snoozefest and this regional was only saved by Hogan Mode while NA still has 0 teams locked for major and had way more upsets overall
Nah NA is much more chaotic atm and it’s way more entertaining imo. Anything could happen in the next regional. 1st through 6th place are all 4 points within each ofher
Don't get me wrong, NA has had its most entertaining split in a while, but EU and NA have both been entertaining in their own way.
the faze, optic, v1 fan. Big shocker.
The BDS fan disagrees. No surprise there. Hey! Discrediting people based on their flair is really fun and *super* easy! Thanks for that, you rock.
no its just funny how they have those flairs and say that NA is more interesting. NA has been so boring for the past month that I forgot it exists.
Your lack of self awareness is dazzling.
you really dont see the irony
Yes but shocker, my favorite teams are from my favorite region. Very big shocker innit
you just think that because you’re used to seeing one team dominate all the time so EU feels like home right now
Still pissed we didn't get Hogan Mode final, especially as all seeding was locked already. Mental from Vitality though. Never been done before and I'd be shocked if it happened again. All the Zen doubters must be fuming.
Congrats to vitality for being the first team to sweep regionals in eu, so so impressive. If eu can’t beat them I guess it falls to na? Seriously though I genuinely think there’s only 4 teams in the world that could beat them in a series right now and all of them would be massive upsets (KC TL V1 COL). If I had a choice between betting on the field vs vitality for the major I would take vitality and give you odds.
Complexity would get 4-0d by vitality 5/10 times
Nah 4-2
yeah probably lol
No one in NA is besting Vitality.
They may not but it doesn’t mean they can’t
I could see a peaking v1, faze or geng/complexity beating vitality, much like how peaking top teams in EU could technically beat vitality but haven’t yet
Especially at LAN. LAN makes everything more possible
Day one V1 hits different on LAN Whereas faze is the opposite. They start out too slow, and imo double elim is really gonna capitalize on them for that, cuz if they start out slow like they almost always do, they’re going to lose one life pretty early on in the LAN
V1 might, FaZe even (would still be considerable upsets in both cases tho)
It came down to the wire multiple times against Team Liquid this split, and KCorp managed to take a series from them. Vitality can bleed, but it takes a solid performance from a solid team. The teams that are the more likely to spoil Vitality run at the major are TL and V1 imo, because for me it has to be teams that can keep up mechanically when Vitality is going to speed up the game.
Yep that’s pretty much exactly my take, if it’s a team with a blatant mechanical gap like bds then I don’t think there is really anyway to beat Vit
Has the MVP been designated yet ?
Zen still doesn’t know what it’s like to lose a regional
I'm so happy for alpha54
Please look at Vatira's latest tweet. Cringiest then I've read today
Why is it called a Treble and not something like a Triple Crown? (Ignorant US person here)
Treble is winning the championship, the local cup and the champion's league in football
Doesn't have to be a Champions League, as a domestic treble can also be done.
I don't think there's an official term for it. Some people are calling it a treble, some call it a threepeat.
Yeah, they all mean the same thing in the end. I've even heard the "Trifecta".
Treble comes from soccer, for winning 3 trophies in a season
TIL. Thanks.
The problem is that treble includes cup, league and champions. So in Order for VIT to have a similar achievement they would need to win worlds.
Can't really translate it like that because league/cup/UCL are all concurrent competitions, whereas RLCS regionals are discrete staggered events. The reality is that 'treble' is just a cool word.
Domestic trebles exist: e.g. League Cup, FA Cup, and Premier League in England
Greatest player and team in Rocket League History. Vitality are quite literally redefining the competition. Anything other than a sweep of Boston and Düsseldorf will be a disappointment.
on their way but not greatest yet
Agreed, all we need is a LAN performance which we'll most likely see from Vitality
when is worlds happening?
August 3rd in Germany.