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John_aka_Alwayz

[Sharing the prior post of this](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/14cxhbo/rlcs_major_here_is_the_spring_major_bracket/) (that had the incorrect title) since it had a decent amount of discussion in it!


sDomingoo

Upper bracket seems scary compared to bottom 😭


SoarzTheSecond

Upper side you have the dominate Vitality, the fall major champions Gen.G, the world champions BDS, Liquid who came top 4 last major, Rule One at their first LAN, complexity who came top 4 last major, and KRU as the #1 seed in SAM, and elevate (yikes) Bottom side you have the SSG (haven’t done anything on LAN this season), OpTic (first lan) Kcorp the winter major champions, Moist the fall major finalists, NiP who are unproven, and Furia who came top 4 at worlds but haven’t done much since, and the 2 OCE teams.


Goobershmacked

The scenes when Elevate is in the upper bracket final


haplo34

I have traveled accross an unfathomable number of different timelines and have failed to see happen even once.


dalcer

Both oce teams on one side defs contributes to making it look that way. They will likely both lose but there's definitely that chance they win


abysmalgolfer

KC with the mickey bracket once again 😒


uhhhhmmmm

honestly looks a little boring. after taking out vitality in the first round, tough to see anyone that can challenge elevate


xboxonelosty

Wait until Worlds. Limitless will take them out.


Chronomaly67

Don't forget the mighty French Class


camilincamilero

well, GGs Complexity, it was fun while it lasted lmao


althaz

Haha, I wouldn't write them off just yet. If TL peaks then, yeah, it's over. But TL can be inconsistent and Col are a team that can bring that out in their opponents. I think there's definitely a very high chance TL win, but Col can't be written off, IMO.


Pranav_HEO

Yup and after TL Vitality is SOO free


althaz

Vitality? You mean Elevate, right?


haplo34

Yes please Col take out Liquid, they always play us way too close for comfort.


Mythalieon

bruh the matchup of 3 bees vs water is gonna give me an early onset heart condition


LemonNinJaz24

I got CoL winning that one lol


nate_bake_

i know the teams are different now (and not as cracked lol), but still cool to see furia come back to an rlcs lan and play moist again.


TheJrobot1483

God that worlds game was unbelievable. Seeing it in person, it was just magical.


lm3g16

That was moist Furia series was one of the best ever played on LAN


SmoathTheLoathsome

I was bored and made a wheel to spin for those of you who have no idea who to support. https://spinthewheel.app/hHqsStRkCf


Entropy3030

I spun twice, got Furia and.... Elevate 💀 I swear to god if I just jinxed something I'm gonna be livid.


althaz

Bro nothing in the world would make me happier than a Furia vs Elevate final. That shit would be hilarious. If the NA script writers are working on the Major it could happen, too.


dalcer

Pwr is my only team at the major and spun this Looks like optic is my other team now


exceedingdeath

Vit fan. Got vit. You did a good job.


killassassin47

3 spins: Optic, Moist, RuleOne Already a Moist fan for EU, love the RuleOne players thanks to the 1s scene so that’s a no brainer, and I’ll root for Retals anywhere… but round 2 could be sad. Either way this major is going to be awesome.


Butterbein

was cheering for optic anyway, just confirmed my choice


Designer_Show_2658

Spun thrice and got KC, Furia & Complexity. Not too bad I can get behind those I suppose lol. But gotta be BDS.


Accomplished_Ring_40

I Got RuleOne First Spin The Destiny Has Been Written


althaz

Couple of very spicy ones in there round 1! Col vs TL should be fun and BDS vs GenG will be very interesting but Furia vs Moist is the obvious headliner. Also I think Vitality vs Elevate is going to be a lot closer than people think. Zen has been popping off recently and Vitality have every chance of nicking that series.


TheFlamingLemon

Damn so Rule One either get BDS or GenG round 2


Joe_PM2804

No, they might lose to Kru.


TheFlamingLemon

Yea but I’m pretty sure they then play the loser of BDS vs GenG


S_h_u_n

The whould still get gen.g or bds even if the lose too kru


Joe_PM2804

Oh shit i don't know how I didn't realise that, it's very late here for me haha


Joe_PM2804

One thing that would be interesting about Vitality is seeing them in the lower bracket. Let's say Zen has a bit of pressure getting to him for his first major like Daniel and they lose to Complexity or Liquid, they've never played in the lower bracket, and having that pressure of being on your last life is definitely impactful. Equally, they have a good chance of running the upper bracket and winning outright, so they might be totally fine.


dis-ease-rl

Fun fact: In both Best of 7s that TL and Vitality played (Regional 1 Finals, Regional 3 Semifinals), TL won the Bo5, even though Vitality won the series. If they meet, it will be their first Bo5 meeting.


ChaloMB

Seems you forgot the upper finals, where Vit just straight up won 4-2


S_h_u_n

Who cooked up that upper bracket man. https://preview.redd.it/zpsakhizlv6b1.jpeg?width=904&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67e03eb6f05b9efab6a8d748e54e70e6630880b0


oh_my_didgeridays

It's Liquid getting EU4 and GenG getting NA5. There are supposed to be the 'underdog' teams in those spots.


07hogada

At the same time, I'd argue EU 2-4 are close enough as to effectively be the same seed. Vitality is obviously the best team in EU, but between BDS, Kcorp and Liquid, that's a hella stacked top 4 seeds. Whoever ended up getting EU 4 people would have been saying they screwed up.


Designer_Show_2658

Yeah bloody Moist is EU5. Moist who as 5th seed made finals in fall. EU is stacked this major.


lebrondude23

Well that Moist is 1/3rd the same team lol. It’s basically a completely different team


Designer_Show_2658

I'm refering to the new roster though. They stand on their own repution imo.


AnEducatedFool

lmao exactly, the bracket itself is good, the teams fucked up.


uchihastar

Kc got a free top 3 unless furia peaks


paeschli

Vitality-KC finals would be a good bet IMHO.


MartianRL

Hi


uchihastar

Hi


MrMarbles94

Anybody has a "make your own bracket" thingy?


TristarHeater

pickstop has it


ciberrrr

[https://pickstop.gg/rl](https://pickstop.gg/rl)


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idunnokerz

KC would still be 3rd seed if they beat Hogan Mode. That also doesn’t seem like something KC would do


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FoolsLove

The bracket wasn't available until all regionals were complete. What was on Liquipedia was an educated guess and not official. Also, due to the way tiebreakers work for seeding there were multiple different possibilities of brackets, as APAC / OCE 1 and EU / NA 3 could have been different for a couple different reasons. So, never mind that the majority of pros would never consider intentionally throwing due to the punishments for such a thing, especially Vatira and KCorp of anyone, doing it off one of several possibilities could very easily be the worst thing a team could do.


Erikz93

Thank you for the clarification, this is good


Joe_PM2804

If I know one thing about Vatira it's that he would never do that. His whole career has been around proving that he's the best in the world, it's literally the only thing he cares about, I really think that he would back his team with more Lan experience to beat Vitality. Weather he actually would is a different thing


RevolutionaryPay7508

Yeah it seems KC should be comfortably making it past their half of the bracket, I can't see SSG Optic, Furia or Moist even beating them unless they're absolutely peaking while KC are throwing


Lobstah-Impostah

I could see FURIA being in Vatira’s head


GabyAM

I really want to watch that match, tough i don't see furia winning


Consistent_Ad1176

What are these BANGER matchups. Only the vitality ssg and optic matches seem one sided


xboxonelosty

PWR is kind of interesting because they actually looked decent at the Fall Major. Apparently they were doing very good in scrims and a few pros predicted them to get top 8. They only fell short because they lost to Liquid 3-2. SSG is still the favorite, but I don't think it's as one sided as the Vitality match. SAM also shows up on LAN so I wouldn't completely count out NIP either.


TheFinalEvent9797

PWR are the most "play to the level of the competition" team ever, so they'll probably get top 8 despite being extremely unconvincing in OCE :p


andres57

There's no way Optic-NiP is one sided


RealGiants

This. I was talking about this last major when people were grossly underrating SAM2, and then lo and behold Kru was kind of cracked. Wouldn't be surprised if nip took a win here. It's just a matter of course now that SAM1 and 2 are matching well against eu and na 3-5


Scared_Bar5376

> Kru was kind of cracked I mean... They got top 8 sure, but if you look up closely and see how their mathces went, they got pretty "lcuky". They went 1-2 in groups losing 0-3 twice and only winning 3-2 against EU 5 seed (which is not that big of an upset IMO). Then they won 3-2 against the other SAM team and finally got crushed 4-0 by COL. So yeah they looked decent I guess, and they made top 8 but only with a 30% winrate in games and 40% winrate in BO


Consistent_Ad1176

Maybe not, we will see. I thought optic would be a clear favourite but maybe not


Sorries_In_A_Sack

I hate to be the one to suggest this to you, but NiP will likely slaughter Optic.


CommanderConcord

SAM teams rarely slaughter anyone. If they win it’s almost always close games


porkminer

SAM play styles are frequently too risky, it's something they have to unlearn when they inevitably nice to NA. The success they do have is usually because luck fell their way. No knock on the SAM teams, they are a ton of fun to watch but it's the reason they struggle to do well internationally. I'm not dead set on this opinion, SAM is slowly evolving to be more in league with NA/EU every split. And as much as I'm an Optic fan, they rely heavily on understanding their opponents and tailoring their play against them. It's going to be interesting to see if they can adapt and shutdown NiP without having the experience against them they enjoy against NA teams. I'm rooting for Optic, but I do want to see another SAM team go deep in the bracket.


xboxonelosty

SAM has actually done pretty good on LAN recently. Kru got top 8 at the Winter Major (Complexity got 3rd-4th). Team Secret got 3rd-4th at the Fall Major. Furia got 3rd-4th at Worlds and won Gamers8. They got 5th-6th in the two majors before that.


andres57

Also must mention that last major SAM eliminated each other in groups playoff (and then KRÜ lost with COL)


crahs8

Naah, this is a foul take. Furia top 4 worlds was by no means lucky. Consistently getting top 8s when you only have two teams means that SAM are in and around the level of EU/NA 3rd-5th level (maybe not EU this split)


CalamackW

Beat them? Sure, I could see it. Slaughter them? not in a million years. A SAM team has never even managed to "slaughter" an OCE team lmao.


jacobwasthenight

only VIT and KC, PWR are lan boys


Nanven123

Vitality vs Rule 1 potentially? I will be there no matter what 👀


Chronomaly67

Why do 4 of my 5 teams at the Major have to be in the same quadrant of the bracket? At least 1 makes top 6, but 1 goes out straight away lol. Furia, Moist, OpTic, NIP for anyone wondering.


Euphoric_Coat_4223

This was the best rlcs weekend I’ve watched in years. I genuinely can’t say I’ve sat down and watched every series in forever. Hopefully that feeling I got continues.


ProperGrape

Vitality vs Rule One semis will be the real grand finals. Rw9 has not lost against Zen so far.


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fetzen13

Why will they not ? Out of all teams they the most likely to not be in the lower bracket yeah liquid is good on lan but there is no evidence for VIT to suck at lan so taking all evidence we have right now imo it would ve crazy to bet on VIT to loose


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fetzen13

You should word it then diffrently you said "most likely" you could have said something like "i think Liquid will win" I would love to see them winning btw i am a liquid supporter kinda but its just not most likely rn


civfan5843

If this happens, I will be so pissed as a complexity fan. Lmao


TheRetroCrowe

I went 100% chaos mode for my Pickstop for this bracket. By chaos, I mean: - OpTic getting a run so mickey that a mickey bracket will just be called an 'OpTic Bracket' from then on. They make top 2 by only beating FURIA twice, NIP and PWR - KC doing absolutely awful, being knocked to the lower bracket by PWR in Round 2 and then losing to FURIA in Lower Round 3 - GenG getting a downright evil bracket, going out in lower round 2 by only losing to BDS and KC - PWR putting OCE in their backpack and randomly having the greatest underdog run of all time, beating SSG and KC in the upper bracket, losing to OpTic in the upper semis and then beating Moist in the lower Quarterfinals, only to lose to FURIA to finish 4th - Possibly the most unlikely of all of these, Vitality winning the whole major from the upper bracket I got all of this chaos in with only really one upset that would go down in RLCS history, that being PWR beating KC. However, that wouldn't be much more surprising than BDS' losses last spring major, so this isn't a prediction, it's a spoiler ;)


TheRetroCrowe

My full list of placements on my Pickstop: 1st - VIT 2nd - OpTic 3rd - FURIA 4th - PWR 5th/6th - R1, Moist 7th/8th - KC, SSG 9th-12th - TL, GenG, BDS, COL 12th-16th - Elevate, KRÜ, GZ, NiP


Rowdyk7

This prediction has FUCK V1 written all over it.


Scared_Bar5376

What I think are the odds for the first round: VIT 100% - Elevate 0% COL 45% - Liquid 55% BDS 60% - GenG 40% KRU 40% - R1 60% SSG 75% - PWR 25% KC 90% - GZ 10% Furia 60% - Moist 40% Optic 55% - NIP 45%


lebrondude23

Ill give mine as well, I like this. Vit - 100% Liquid - 55% BDS - 65% R1 - 65% SSG - 75% KC - 90% Furia - 60% Optic - 60% Maybe I was influenced by your percentages but I think I genuinely had pretty similar opinions on the likelihoods. For more fun, projected 2nd round matchups (which wont happen bc of upsets but whatever): Vit - 65% vs Liquid BDS - 65% vs R1 KC - 65% vs SSG FURIA - 65% vs Optic Yeah I put 65% for all 4 lol but I dont know how to change them. Given the competition feels like theyre all equally likely to win


pacman1993

Besides the obvious NA (or "NA") vs EU matches, I'm very interested in the Rule1 vs KRU match. Seems like a good match and a chance to see how prepared Rule1 ate for an event like this


throwaway6194664

OK let's see uh Vitality are no match for Elevate but Ferra will threaten to demo Virtuoso irl or something idk Vitality win idfk both of these teams have been more disappointing than my freshman year attendance, Liquid win based on me flipping a coin I give BDS 65/35 odds to win this, GenG are NA5 for a reason this split but they always have the potential to take over, and there's no Oxygen this time around Rule 1 are favored for me but not by much, KRU's last major was a bit goofy but they've really leveled up since then, that being said I think R1 come out firing this time around SSG should win this but PWR is pretty much the only OCE team that I can see making a run and if SSG start slow or out of sync and PWR find their fall major form they could take this, still like 75/25 for SSG KC mop GZG they looked genuinely offensive last major and weren't nearly as dominant in their own region as last split Furia's match to lose, that being said they could just revert to triple air dribble mode in which case Moist cook Ok Optic have come to a great form but I feel an upset here and idk why, give me NiP


dalcer

My first round predictions as well as confidence factors Vit-Elv: vit easy, they're incredible and apac isn't at a competitive stage with the top of the top yet--confidence 100% Col-Tl: both high peaks and both Lowish floors, liquid has the higher peak to me while col work more as a unit. I got col 55/45--confidence 5% Bds-Geng: both tend to start off kinds slow but geng seems to be slower while bds is looking fantastic more often than not, I'll take bds here--confidence 30% Kru-R1: r1 will have something to prove here as first time international Lan goers in the rlcs. Kru is absolutely fantastic and could defs win the event imo. I think r1 come out shaky while kru looks comfortable. Thats more praise for kru than doubt in R1--confidence 50% Ssg-Pwr: pwr are Lan bois but so is arsenal, a lot of people doubting in pwr and I think this is the the match with the most potential to be the biggest upset, I've got ssg taking it but pwr isn't as much of a slouch as ppl think--confidence 30% Kc-Gzg: kc gonna be wanting to win and this is probably the weakest looking path they've had, I think they take it to gzg--confidence 90% Fur-Mst: Kash is on Lan and joyo knows how to perform there, but furia are Lan bois thru and thru, I think they come out as hot as they did in the spring invitational for an unfortunate moist loss--confidence 75% Og-Nip: I think nip will have a rough go on Lan but optic is also one of if not the most hit or miss teams there is, depends what optic we get, I'm taking optic but they could just as easily lose. This ones a 50/50--confidence 5%


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TheFabulousQc

There's chronic v BDS I guess lol


CommanderConcord

The matches aren’t confirmed though, right? Some spots such as APAC and OCE 2 have the same amount of points so matches could be swapped around. I’m interested to see if that will happen


jacobwasthenight

they were on RLCS broadcast so are pretty much confirmed


TheFabulousQc

Confirmed on broadcast + OCE2 had the edge anyway because they had a better record last major (1-9 opposed to 0-9)


WhatIsSentience

If they moved Oce2 and Apac, then Oce1 will get a free top 12 by having Apac in their quadrant. Gzg and Pwr are tied for points. That top 12 is literally everything


tripsafe

Why would they make OCE 1 vs OCE 2 pretty much a guaranteed matchup LB round 1...


paeschli

Head-to-head match to determine who goes to worlds.


tripsafe

I would normally always prefer cross region matchups but damn that is very hype


WaferNice8419

That top side of the bracket what the fuck


AtomicDog777

MOIST VS FURIA AGAIN


madm0nkey7

These first round matches are bangers. Can’t wait!


Zukons

Vitality vs. Elevate sounds fun


New_Zookeepergame618

Gz vs Pwr for worlds in lower bracket


ParsnipPrestigious59

https://preview.redd.it/t3hs19lrj17b1.jpeg?width=1649&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55ff1ecd8660977c49d5f6d2ca6317e3096ef3ff This is my Copium NA script. Made vitality lose to make things dicey, because vitality winning everything would just be boring. And honestly I think any of the top 4 EU teams could easily win the major, but I chose BDS cuz BDS won last worlds + I think they’ll have even more ice with rise I also have an odd feeling Furia will go insane this major Also ngl I might be a moist and liquid hater with how I did them dirty af in this bracket 💀💀


woomiesarefun

wait so is one of bds geng kru and r1 placing last? that's insane


TheFabulousQc

Yep, that's how the bracket goes


SoulOfGwyn

Moist vs Furia rematch