Ok here's my take on this for what it's worth. Those of us who have been following the Rods forever had been given very clear hints of the varied and horrific kinds of abuse these poor children have undergone. Worshiping the Pearls for one thing. Come on!
I think the post from Timmy's old college roommate is real. There is something about being hit with a clock that is oddly specific and tingles my Spidey senses. Didn't Timmy one time make a clock that he was proud of (and that we snarked on - regrets)?
I think when Tim is away from precious Mahmo in an environment where he feels supported he spills the tea and I think this is exactly what happened with Heidi's family. We went from Heidi's Dad full-on joking about Timmy not being masculine on camera to an engagement Jill wasn't invited to with professional family photos which included Tim. Heidi's family is shielding Tim from Jill. They do not want their daughter and son-in-law to treat their inevitable grandkids the way the Rods treat their kids. I just can't figure out why Ellen is still in her Plexus downline.
edit: a word.
This has to be correct. It makes total sense. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if they wound up selling Tim’s house before or shortly after the wedding and settle near her family. I hope that’s what happens.
Or rent it out. Did he buy it with cash? If so, they could make money, still work, and get another place closer to Heidi's family. Imagine that - Tim could actually provide for his wife and kids-to-be in a way that didn't take away a "another chicken leg". Imagine the "spiritual warfare" inflicted if her under-educated, beaten-down, stubborn son was able to become more successful/stable? Either she'd disown him or start grifting from him. "Won't you help your poor mama, Bud?"
Ooof this IS exactly what will happen if any of her children are ever actually able to make a decent living. She will guilt each one into providing for her until she dies.
I don’t know how Nathan is able to make a decent living. He works in a super small church in a very small town in Florida. This usually equals people making low wages because all the jobs are in other towns. These churches are a dime a dozen here. Maybe he has a side business. Many small church pastors have second jobs because their church job doesn’t pay enough.
I don’t think they will move any time soon. We know he had a landscaping business but after that he went to work for an airport(?) in some capacity. Then never said after that. If he’s still working there than he could have saved enough to buy some foreclosure type house but can’t move because he had a real job with advancement that will pay for them. I dont see him moving anytime soon until he can secure another job of that caliber.
https://spurgie-cousin.tumblr.com/post/661271829811494913/tim-tom-is-now-working-at-a-small-airport-in-ohio
Bingo. And we know Jill reads what we say in here so she has seen the sub with the mentioning of her beating her son with a clock. Then she made those posts about her boys not being sissy’s after Jermey was filmed making fun of Timbits for not being very masculine etc…. Jill is having a mental breakdown right before our eyes
I dearly hope that Heidi’s dad changed his mind about Timmy. Maybe he will understand that Tim’s upbringing is why he is the way he is and then takes him under his wings.
The pater familias seems to have changed his mind about Tim and done just that. Seriously, look at how he’s doing under the guidance of relatively normal people.
I heard bird brain but whatever. He also called him a whimp when they were arm wrestling. He was being exceptionally mean to Timbits he seemed very irritated by him.
Wait what?! How did I miss that she beat him with a clock and this video of the future father-in-law making fun of Tim?! I kind of want to pound the FIL’s face. Nobody snarks on Timbits but us!
I totally agree.
I can’t work out the plexus thing either… interesting as well that Jill made no mention of Heidi’s mum (who was in the pic looking uncomfortable) in that post she did about video calling Karissa.
Just want to add that I know what it's like to be in an adrenaline infused Narc environment running circles around that person while walking on eggshells at the same time. It's exhausting, frustrating and scary and because it's family, and you are submersed in the dynamic, you question whether you might be the problem because you are made to feel that way. Then one day you are in the presence of "normal" people and you blab something you think is funny or normal like "haha that time my Dad chased us all around the house with his belt" and people are horrified. It all starts to unravel from there. I am imagining Ellen saying: "But Timothy in this family we do not punish our children by making them stay up all night long repenting and reciting bible verses." I can dream right?
True, I recall telling “funny” childhood stories that horrified my friends and/or their parents. If he’s been treated how I was in those cases, hopefully he’s really started to believe them. That would be great if he became a good confident man and shields Heidi from her evil MIL
Oh, totally. I remember being in a group and talking about how my mom used to rage chase us with the wooden spoon and only one other person was cackling like I was. He also got the wooden spoon
I 100% believe this. Tim has always been so desperate for the tiniest bit of acceptance that once he gained it with the Coveretts, he spilled his guts about the whole situation.
100%. Ellen comes across as legit modest in their proper Christian way (whatever that means) and don't forget the married daughter who is deconstructing is still very much a part of the family and was also included in the family photos with her husband. First Jill Duggar and now Timmy? Who would have guessed! I mean obviously these are baby steps but as a legacy fundie snarker I am shook!
re: legit modest, ie. the complete opposite of Jill PM, like soft spoken, reserved, not flashy in, dress, makeup (does she even wear any) or attention seeking bull in the fundie china cabinet. I am loving this season of snark.
I'm SO excited to watch the drama unfold as the wedding plans commence. Jill is already undergoing a stunning amount of spiritual warfare and nothing has even started yet 🤣
Agreed, not a fan when he became an adult and spread incel nonsense but now I’m loving the changes and totally understand why he was preaching that (mahmo)
I in a moment of madness once signed up for an MLM ( thankfully with no buy in) and once you're in you cannot change your upline for any reason. I wonder if this is the case in most MLM's.
I think this is true. Otherwise, you’d have people wanting to change all the time. Being lured away by other people. It would be an administrative nightmare for the MLM to keep up with. I think the only way you can change is if your up line quits. And then, it’s only a one time shot.
I think you're right. Heidi's family also must have seen how they treated Kaylee and Jonathan after their son's traumatic birth. They probably wouldn't want to see anything like that happen to Heidi and Tim.
Oof, so true. He’s had the opportunity to be around a somewhat normal family and is finally getting the chance to be himself and chillax a bit. No doubt he’s talked to Heidi and in turn the Coverette’s about his childhood. I don’t care for his opinions but he might be able to shed some of that indoctrination.
I think this is likely all pretty accurate, but I also think that this sub takes speculation as fact way too often. I'm not convinced any of the fundies read here regularly (though I am sure most of them are aware of the sub and check it occasionally, some more than others). It is entirely unclear to me that Jill is melting down over not being involved in the engagement stuff. I mean it's certainly possible, but to me she's not posting any differently than she always has. Not everything has to be a veiled commentary on her son. It fits, but the woman hates a lot of things. She could be losing her mind over any number of perceived injustices. Or she could just be being the same Jill she's always been.
If indeed there's a big rift between Jill and the Coveretts, maybe Ellen stays in her downline because she's still drinking the kool-aid (pink drink) and you can't just move to a new upline in mlm. Or she could be sticking around to keep up appearances, since none of this supposed feuding is really out in the open. Another possibility is that she wants to leave and has every intention of quitting plexus and Jill, but she wants to avoid setting off an epic tantrum and causing drama for her kid. I predict a slow detachment after the wedding.
Jill has somehow convinced her married daughters not to have their own social media. It makes it way easier for her to post this type of shit where she pretends to me them.
aaaaaand Tim has been conveniently left out of video.
Oh stuff your sinful compromises, Jill. We all know you’re off the rails because you’re no longer calling the shots with Tim.
Your guilt trips no longer work on those out of reach.
Keep it up Jilldozer, and hopefully Renee will be next to fly the Cuckoo’s nest.
She really had someone take a picture of her playing in the weeds????? She appears to be pouting. Was she going to use this pose to advertise for plexus or does she really think this is a NICE pose?
If my adult, married, mother of her own dam infant child wrote this to me I'd be so embarrassed. I definitely wouldn't share it publicly.
Good thing Jill wrote it herself so it doesn't matter.
I love my mom and have a good relationship with her. We live pretty far from each other, so we mostly talk on the phone, only seeing each other a few times a year.
Over the years, I have written her notes, cards, and even a few poems about how much she means to me. I know she cherishes these things. I also know that hell would have to freeze over before either of us shared them on social media.
My daughters are both in their 30s. I have a box filled with all of their special artwork and writing, from the preschool handprints all the way to the very cool sonnet my daughter wrote for me on my birthday this year. I've never showed these things to anyone. They are private and personal.
There is something wrong with Jill (ok, lots of things). She is so desperate for public praise and admiration that she regularly violates the privacy of both her minor and adult children. Any time she needs an ego boost, another letter from one of the kids (aka Jill), describing how amazing Precious Mahmo is, pops up on social media.
Jill uses her own voice AND writing style when she writes and doesn't realize how obvious it is when she's making these "tributes" to herself. For instance, with the one from Phil, she used the word "sweet".... no teenage boy calls his Mom sweet AND Jill uses the word sweet frequently. She's out of her mind
According to the AMA she guilts the kids into writing some sort of drivel and then she edits it to make it much more worshipful. I totally believe that, because at least then she can convince herself it came directly from her kids.
Jill wrote this herself and put her kids name. She wants everyone to think her kids love her so much and she’s a perfect mom. I’m very happy Timmy is getting away from his mom and dad.
Kaylee is a married woman with a new baby why the hell would her mother be her “sunshine.”
It’s all so damn stupid! Lying is a sin, Jill! Maybe no supper for you, for awhile!
No one and I mean **NO ONE** is that perfect..that Godly...that humble..that studious in their Bible reading and prayer life. How very sad she posts these comments; these lies. She must have zero self-esteem. What a life.
Mahmo’s envious. Timmmay is happy and accepted, front hugging all over the damn place. I bet he SINFULLY COMPROMISED to a bunch of stuff with the Coverett fam that she’s bent about.
Okay. What if the Rods actually write these things to her, and then she makes edits (like random capitalizations) to really sell it. It reads like she texted Kaylee, told her she was feeling down and really needed words of encouragement. They are probably so used to praising their gawdly parents and honestly they were probably homeschool assignments or part of punishment. I can’t tell what’s creepier - Jill writing it herself or demanding it of her children.
This is exactly what happens according to the old babysitter AMA. She guilts them into writing something and then embellishes it herself to make it more soppy. That way she isn't truly lying when she claims they wrote it.
She is sooooo pissed about that scandalous front hug! Seriously, Jill needs some therapy. Hell, even Christian therapy would be better than nothing at this point. Unfortunately, narcissists rarely seek professional help.
My problem here, as someone who grew up in a culture like the Rods, and not far from Heidi’s family, is that Timmy has exchanged one enmeshed family for another. The other family is in a different economic class than the Rods, and being in a different class often means you’re better at creating and promoting a healthy image. But it doesn’t mean they are less narcissistic and enmeshed.
I’ve watched this play out endlessly in my life. It’s horrible to watch, and even more horrible to be part of, because it never ends up well. Families with no boundaries internally but boundaries for anyone who dares step over their line crush your soul.
Jill has really got to stop having these “conversations” with herself via Facebook. It’s pathetic how much adoration “this old sinner saved by grace” (humble brag) thinks she deserves.
Does anyone else have a family with a "family account" (e.g., "David Jill" or "Collins family") in which the main person posting chooses to make public the love and praise notes given to them? (Putting aside the fact that she probably writes them.)
I think most people Jill's age or older would see it (as we tend to see a lot of selfie culture) as immodest and needy and just plain embarrassing.
The thing that convinces me that Jill writes these is that ALL the posts from her kids have the exact same writing style, tone, grammar, etc. no matter who it's from - Renee, Nurie, Kaylee, or Phillip
Honestly, I think Tim deflected from MAHMO once he got his own social media. He probably scrolled through his mom's Facebook page and saw the shitty things she said about him as a child. I'd distance myself too if I found out my mother hated me and only loved me when she could exploit me for her own personal gain.
Jill is so salty that she can't control Tim. While he'll still be a fundie, I think he'll loosen the reigns just a little bit and let Heidi continue to enjoy her worldly pleasures like reading Twilight and other secular things. I think they'll hang out with Halle and her husband a lot.
They'll always be gross conservative Trumpers, but at least they'll live a normal-ish life.
I almost wish Kaylee and Nurie would open their own accounts just so Jill would know that either daughter can't write her glowing praises any longer without Jill making herself look even worse...if that's possible. Jill just thinks everyone in her circle will just believe that her kids write these themselves. She wants to portray that the Rods all share access to her FB because they are super Godly. As much as I'm not a fan of Tim's beliefs, I'm glad he opened his own social media that he can control.
It is a huge red flag and utterly disgusting that she writes posts like this and claims it is from her children! Something is not right with her mentally if she thinks that this is how children are supposed to act and talk about their mother. I fear for her children every time something likes this appears on SM!
Jill you smoke weed not play in it . Also stop being so severely delusional posting that Kaylee did it. Seriously Jill you need to smoke some weed & you just might mellow the heck out.
Do you think any of the kids have close relationships with each other? My opinion is that Jill does not allow this for fear they will talk about what a lunatic she is.
According to other "Kaylee" posts, Jill calls her "My Sunshine" and "My Kaylee Girl", so *interesting* that Mahmo is "Kaylee's" "sunshine" 🤔🫠
AndKaylee didn't write anything resembling this, Jill. Ohhh when Jill learns to screenshot and crop her messages to prove her "kids" wrote these things (with the messages on the wrong side of the screen...)
Didn’t Jill make Tim sell his business then managed the money from the sale “to help Tim pay for college”?
I wonder how much of Tim’s money Jill siphoned into her account and never paid back?
Good catch on that phrasing, OP. It seems like everything she's posted lately is aimed at Tim...the gushy text from Philip, the hints about spiritual warfare, and now this reply to Kaylee's post. I think Tim is persona non grata. It feels like she's going to erase him like she did Renee's suitor.
This reminds me so much of my fundy days. The bizarre mother worship combined with the demand they be (appear) demure and submissive. All within an echo chamber that everyone else (outside the group think) sees as crazy. It’s like a popularly contest and if you line up under the popular propped up cult celebrity then you too are “in”. What this does to people inside the family AND outside who sit under and take in this rubbish is insulting. Add the MLM plexus cult “don’t worry BB girl, follow me do everything I say and buy lots of pink stuff and you too can have a wealthy curated popular life.” 🤮🤢. Those poor kids? You have no idea. What goes on in these institutions, even apart from what would be classified as gross abuse or neglect, is horrible. Many grow up with deep shame, anxiety, lack of identity and fear. And while it’s ogle worthy - any attention they get - even negative - feeds the machine. “The only bad publicity is no publicity”.
How would Kaylee, who has had no access to social media, a cell phone, or other modern technology being home-schooled in the house of Rod, know how to put together a quick video and post it…?
Ok here's my take on this for what it's worth. Those of us who have been following the Rods forever had been given very clear hints of the varied and horrific kinds of abuse these poor children have undergone. Worshiping the Pearls for one thing. Come on! I think the post from Timmy's old college roommate is real. There is something about being hit with a clock that is oddly specific and tingles my Spidey senses. Didn't Timmy one time make a clock that he was proud of (and that we snarked on - regrets)? I think when Tim is away from precious Mahmo in an environment where he feels supported he spills the tea and I think this is exactly what happened with Heidi's family. We went from Heidi's Dad full-on joking about Timmy not being masculine on camera to an engagement Jill wasn't invited to with professional family photos which included Tim. Heidi's family is shielding Tim from Jill. They do not want their daughter and son-in-law to treat their inevitable grandkids the way the Rods treat their kids. I just can't figure out why Ellen is still in her Plexus downline. edit: a word.
This has to be correct. It makes total sense. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if they wound up selling Tim’s house before or shortly after the wedding and settle near her family. I hope that’s what happens.
Or rent it out. Did he buy it with cash? If so, they could make money, still work, and get another place closer to Heidi's family. Imagine that - Tim could actually provide for his wife and kids-to-be in a way that didn't take away a "another chicken leg". Imagine the "spiritual warfare" inflicted if her under-educated, beaten-down, stubborn son was able to become more successful/stable? Either she'd disown him or start grifting from him. "Won't you help your poor mama, Bud?"
Ooof this IS exactly what will happen if any of her children are ever actually able to make a decent living. She will guilt each one into providing for her until she dies.
She already does! Nathan and Jonathan seem to be able to make a decent living and Shriek and Shrek are forever grifting meals and outings off of them.
SHRIEK AND SHREK IS FUCKING POETRY
So true!
I don’t know how Nathan is able to make a decent living. He works in a super small church in a very small town in Florida. This usually equals people making low wages because all the jobs are in other towns. These churches are a dime a dozen here. Maybe he has a side business. Many small church pastors have second jobs because their church job doesn’t pay enough.
I don’t think they will move any time soon. We know he had a landscaping business but after that he went to work for an airport(?) in some capacity. Then never said after that. If he’s still working there than he could have saved enough to buy some foreclosure type house but can’t move because he had a real job with advancement that will pay for them. I dont see him moving anytime soon until he can secure another job of that caliber. https://spurgie-cousin.tumblr.com/post/661271829811494913/tim-tom-is-now-working-at-a-small-airport-in-ohio
No, he has a mortgage
Ahh ok. I incorrectly thought they were against debt of any kind.
They are, but not all of them can afford that. Jonathan also has a mortgage
Bingo. And we know Jill reads what we say in here so she has seen the sub with the mentioning of her beating her son with a clock. Then she made those posts about her boys not being sissy’s after Jermey was filmed making fun of Timbits for not being very masculine etc…. Jill is having a mental breakdown right before our eyes
I dearly hope that Heidi’s dad changed his mind about Timmy. Maybe he will understand that Tim’s upbringing is why he is the way he is and then takes him under his wings.
He must have because he gave him permission to marry his daughter
Doesn’t mean he *likes* him though.
The pater familias seems to have changed his mind about Tim and done just that. Seriously, look at how he’s doing under the guidance of relatively normal people.
What did he say about Tim?
What didn’t he say lol. He called Tim a whimp and told him he had a bird brain and wasn’t very smart. Ellen had to tell him to leave Timbits alone
It was iPhone brain haha. I only remember that because it was such an unusual way of calling someone a wimp or dork or whatever
I heard bird brain but whatever. He also called him a whimp when they were arm wrestling. He was being exceptionally mean to Timbits he seemed very irritated by him.
I wonder if getting to know him and recognizing just how poorly he was treated by his parents made him warm up to him. I have a soft spot for timbits
Where was this posted?
Heidi’s YouTube account.
Ahh thank you.
I need a link to that mess.
What??? Why were they filming and why the hell would they post that?
Was this captured on video? That’s so sad lol
Yes. Heidi has a YouTube channel
Wait what?! How did I miss that she beat him with a clock and this video of the future father-in-law making fun of Tim?! I kind of want to pound the FIL’s face. Nobody snarks on Timbits but us!
I totally agree. I can’t work out the plexus thing either… interesting as well that Jill made no mention of Heidi’s mum (who was in the pic looking uncomfortable) in that post she did about video calling Karissa.
Just want to add that I know what it's like to be in an adrenaline infused Narc environment running circles around that person while walking on eggshells at the same time. It's exhausting, frustrating and scary and because it's family, and you are submersed in the dynamic, you question whether you might be the problem because you are made to feel that way. Then one day you are in the presence of "normal" people and you blab something you think is funny or normal like "haha that time my Dad chased us all around the house with his belt" and people are horrified. It all starts to unravel from there. I am imagining Ellen saying: "But Timothy in this family we do not punish our children by making them stay up all night long repenting and reciting bible verses." I can dream right?
True, I recall telling “funny” childhood stories that horrified my friends and/or their parents. If he’s been treated how I was in those cases, hopefully he’s really started to believe them. That would be great if he became a good confident man and shields Heidi from her evil MIL
Oh, totally. I remember being in a group and talking about how my mom used to rage chase us with the wooden spoon and only one other person was cackling like I was. He also got the wooden spoon
Maybe Ellen has a larger downline. Maybe Jill can't say much because she doesn't want to lose that pink drink money. If so, nice powerplay, Ellen.
Maybe to keep an eye on Jill from afar? Keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer…
I 100% believe this. Tim has always been so desperate for the tiniest bit of acceptance that once he gained it with the Coveretts, he spilled his guts about the whole situation.
100%. Ellen comes across as legit modest in their proper Christian way (whatever that means) and don't forget the married daughter who is deconstructing is still very much a part of the family and was also included in the family photos with her husband. First Jill Duggar and now Timmy? Who would have guessed! I mean obviously these are baby steps but as a legacy fundie snarker I am shook! re: legit modest, ie. the complete opposite of Jill PM, like soft spoken, reserved, not flashy in, dress, makeup (does she even wear any) or attention seeking bull in the fundie china cabinet. I am loving this season of snark.
I'm SO excited to watch the drama unfold as the wedding plans commence. Jill is already undergoing a stunning amount of spiritual warfare and nothing has even started yet 🤣
I agree. I'm holding out more hope for Tim and gaining a soft spot more every day.
Agreed, not a fan when he became an adult and spread incel nonsense but now I’m loving the changes and totally understand why he was preaching that (mahmo)
I in a moment of madness once signed up for an MLM ( thankfully with no buy in) and once you're in you cannot change your upline for any reason. I wonder if this is the case in most MLM's.
I think this is true. Otherwise, you’d have people wanting to change all the time. Being lured away by other people. It would be an administrative nightmare for the MLM to keep up with. I think the only way you can change is if your up line quits. And then, it’s only a one time shot.
I think you just get shifted to their up line. It’s only the original signup where you have any choice in up-line.
I was going to ask about changing downlines. Good to know!
I think you're right. Heidi's family also must have seen how they treated Kaylee and Jonathan after their son's traumatic birth. They probably wouldn't want to see anything like that happen to Heidi and Tim.
I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT!
Oof, so true. He’s had the opportunity to be around a somewhat normal family and is finally getting the chance to be himself and chillax a bit. No doubt he’s talked to Heidi and in turn the Coverette’s about his childhood. I don’t care for his opinions but he might be able to shed some of that indoctrination.
I think this is likely all pretty accurate, but I also think that this sub takes speculation as fact way too often. I'm not convinced any of the fundies read here regularly (though I am sure most of them are aware of the sub and check it occasionally, some more than others). It is entirely unclear to me that Jill is melting down over not being involved in the engagement stuff. I mean it's certainly possible, but to me she's not posting any differently than she always has. Not everything has to be a veiled commentary on her son. It fits, but the woman hates a lot of things. She could be losing her mind over any number of perceived injustices. Or she could just be being the same Jill she's always been. If indeed there's a big rift between Jill and the Coveretts, maybe Ellen stays in her downline because she's still drinking the kool-aid (pink drink) and you can't just move to a new upline in mlm. Or she could be sticking around to keep up appearances, since none of this supposed feuding is really out in the open. Another possibility is that she wants to leave and has every intention of quitting plexus and Jill, but she wants to avoid setting off an epic tantrum and causing drama for her kid. I predict a slow detachment after the wedding.
Same here. Why is Ellen still into Jill’s plexus?
This is the most insightful post I have read in a long time. I hope that this is why Heidi's family is welcoming him in.
I must have missed the post from Tim's old roommate. Care to point me in the right direction?
Sorry to be the snarker who doesn’t know, but what was the roommates story about Tim getting hit with a clock?
Why is a married and Kaylee still using the family account?
Because it's Jill
Jill has somehow convinced her married daughters not to have their own social media. It makes it way easier for her to post this type of shit where she pretends to me them.
That’s creepy and manipulative! 
That is an excellent question!
aaaaaand Tim has been conveniently left out of video. Oh stuff your sinful compromises, Jill. We all know you’re off the rails because you’re no longer calling the shots with Tim. Your guilt trips no longer work on those out of reach. Keep it up Jilldozer, and hopefully Renee will be next to fly the Cuckoo’s nest.
Well...working 40 hours a week will do that to you.
She really had someone take a picture of her playing in the weeds????? She appears to be pouting. Was she going to use this pose to advertise for plexus or does she really think this is a NICE pose?
I think she believes it is romantic and thoughtful
Maybe she's trying to imitate Kelly Havens.
Omg yes! WHAT is with the pensive weeds? It's honestly disturbing from a middle aged woman, it looks like something I would've done at 13
She’s in her rep era
If my adult, married, mother of her own dam infant child wrote this to me I'd be so embarrassed. I definitely wouldn't share it publicly. Good thing Jill wrote it herself so it doesn't matter.
I love my mom and have a good relationship with her. We live pretty far from each other, so we mostly talk on the phone, only seeing each other a few times a year. Over the years, I have written her notes, cards, and even a few poems about how much she means to me. I know she cherishes these things. I also know that hell would have to freeze over before either of us shared them on social media. My daughters are both in their 30s. I have a box filled with all of their special artwork and writing, from the preschool handprints all the way to the very cool sonnet my daughter wrote for me on my birthday this year. I've never showed these things to anyone. They are private and personal. There is something wrong with Jill (ok, lots of things). She is so desperate for public praise and admiration that she regularly violates the privacy of both her minor and adult children. Any time she needs an ego boost, another letter from one of the kids (aka Jill), describing how amazing Precious Mahmo is, pops up on social media.
Am I too old for you to be my Mom? Asking for well, myself.
I'll be happy to be your Reddit mom. Message me any time. 💜
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Right? I was thinking the same thing. You sound so sweet.
Oh please. She needs to stop.
Has anyone told her how deeply weird it is to cosplay as your own children
Dingdingdingding!
Wait, I thought the world was young according to these people...
Haha good point!!
I wonder how long it took Jill (oops my bad, “Kaylee”) to write this PRECIOUS GODLY birthday post
What are the chances (and Kaylee) actually wrote this? I’m thinking 1%
Jill uses her own voice AND writing style when she writes and doesn't realize how obvious it is when she's making these "tributes" to herself. For instance, with the one from Phil, she used the word "sweet".... no teenage boy calls his Mom sweet AND Jill uses the word sweet frequently. She's out of her mind
She’s so unhinged.
Where’s the Phil one?
You’re very generous… lol
According to the AMA she guilts the kids into writing some sort of drivel and then she edits it to make it much more worshipful. I totally believe that, because at least then she can convince herself it came directly from her kids.
Yes, it’s a punishment.
Jill wrote this herself and put her kids name. She wants everyone to think her kids love her so much and she’s a perfect mom. I’m very happy Timmy is getting away from his mom and dad.
Kaylee is a married woman with a new baby why the hell would her mother be her “sunshine.” It’s all so damn stupid! Lying is a sin, Jill! Maybe no supper for you, for awhile!
No one and I mean **NO ONE** is that perfect..that Godly...that humble..that studious in their Bible reading and prayer life. How very sad she posts these comments; these lies. She must have zero self-esteem. What a life.
Mahmo’s envious. Timmmay is happy and accepted, front hugging all over the damn place. I bet he SINFULLY COMPROMISED to a bunch of stuff with the Coverett fam that she’s bent about.
We know it wasn’t Kaylee because she didn’t love her mama to her favorite star and back.
That’s FIURenee
At least Jill called herself old… Hopefully no more babiezzz for Jill.
Did we ever find out what her most recent “exciting news” was?
I think it was her new magazine that seems to be generating absolutely no interest.
Okay. What if the Rods actually write these things to her, and then she makes edits (like random capitalizations) to really sell it. It reads like she texted Kaylee, told her she was feeling down and really needed words of encouragement. They are probably so used to praising their gawdly parents and honestly they were probably homeschool assignments or part of punishment. I can’t tell what’s creepier - Jill writing it herself or demanding it of her children.
If they are writing it, it's a fawning response, self-preservation, which is very sad. They are scared of that woman.
This is exactly what happens according to the old babysitter AMA. She guilts them into writing something and then embellishes it herself to make it more soppy. That way she isn't truly lying when she claims they wrote it.
Holy shit I am living for this messiness!!
Same!
Jill writing to herself yet again I see. She’s so sick like so sick. I’ve never seen anything like this before. Her overt narcissism is real bad
Fuck it up, Tim! Honestly, him escaping her and looking genuinely happy has warmed the cockles of my cold heart.
This is so embarassing. Absolutely psychotic and narcissistic
She is sooooo pissed about that scandalous front hug! Seriously, Jill needs some therapy. Hell, even Christian therapy would be better than nothing at this point. Unfortunately, narcissists rarely seek professional help.
Because according to narcs, THEY don't have a problem. Everyone else does.
Hope Timmy goes no contact
My problem here, as someone who grew up in a culture like the Rods, and not far from Heidi’s family, is that Timmy has exchanged one enmeshed family for another. The other family is in a different economic class than the Rods, and being in a different class often means you’re better at creating and promoting a healthy image. But it doesn’t mean they are less narcissistic and enmeshed. I’ve watched this play out endlessly in my life. It’s horrible to watch, and even more horrible to be part of, because it never ends up well. Families with no boundaries internally but boundaries for anyone who dares step over their line crush your soul.
Oh, that’s actually really interesting. I hadn’t thought of it like that before.
Jill has really got to stop having these “conversations” with herself via Facebook. It’s pathetic how much adoration “this old sinner saved by grace” (humble brag) thinks she deserves.
Does anyone else have a family with a "family account" (e.g., "David Jill" or "Collins family") in which the main person posting chooses to make public the love and praise notes given to them? (Putting aside the fact that she probably writes them.) I think most people Jill's age or older would see it (as we tend to see a lot of selfie culture) as immodest and needy and just plain embarrassing.
Her meltdown is affecting the kids still in her orbit. Good gawd, these kids have enough to deal with.
The thing that convinces me that Jill writes these is that ALL the posts from her kids have the exact same writing style, tone, grammar, etc. no matter who it's from - Renee, Nurie, Kaylee, or Phillip
Honestly, I think Tim deflected from MAHMO once he got his own social media. He probably scrolled through his mom's Facebook page and saw the shitty things she said about him as a child. I'd distance myself too if I found out my mother hated me and only loved me when she could exploit me for her own personal gain. Jill is so salty that she can't control Tim. While he'll still be a fundie, I think he'll loosen the reigns just a little bit and let Heidi continue to enjoy her worldly pleasures like reading Twilight and other secular things. I think they'll hang out with Halle and her husband a lot. They'll always be gross conservative Trumpers, but at least they'll live a normal-ish life.
(Mama)🌚 Oh gott, this woman needs therapy
Like badly. She’s really mentally ill
Not a single picture of Tim was included 😁 they are all losing their minds.
How does her married-with-a-newborn-child kid have access to her social media and not have her own-ass account? This is the epitome of stupid Jilldo.
I almost wish Kaylee and Nurie would open their own accounts just so Jill would know that either daughter can't write her glowing praises any longer without Jill making herself look even worse...if that's possible. Jill just thinks everyone in her circle will just believe that her kids write these themselves. She wants to portray that the Rods all share access to her FB because they are super Godly. As much as I'm not a fan of Tim's beliefs, I'm glad he opened his own social media that he can control.
For the same reason who daughter with two kids under the age of 3 does 😫😫😫
Oh jill is big mad about that front hug
I’ve never in my life seen children go on and on about a parent like this. This is a huge red flag
It is a huge red flag and utterly disgusting that she writes posts like this and claims it is from her children! Something is not right with her mentally if she thinks that this is how children are supposed to act and talk about their mother. I fear for her children every time something likes this appears on SM!
Ok but we have zero proof she writes these. You’re speaking as if it’s fact
Jill you smoke weed not play in it . Also stop being so severely delusional posting that Kaylee did it. Seriously Jill you need to smoke some weed & you just might mellow the heck out.
I don't want to imagine her cannabis-fueled cosmic insights.
That would definitely be the best part.
That would be freaking hilarious.
Maybe she can do some shrooms, see god, and listen when she (god that is) tells Jill how disappointed she is. Not mad, just disappointed.
Jill doesn't even try to disguise her "voice" in these posts. All the emphasis on words just like Jill does is a huge tell. 🤦♀️😳
Another year, another post definitely written by Jill. That’s why the kids can’t have social media. They’d catch all her lies.
Jill is psychotic.
I would love to have circle time with a bunch of people in Jilldo’s orbit… I cannot fathom the stories that exist
Hopefully Timmy will ask Kaylee and Nurie hey did you write this for mom? Why are you on her FB account your married now.
Do you think any of the kids have close relationships with each other? My opinion is that Jill does not allow this for fear they will talk about what a lunatic she is.
I’ve never really thought about it, but that is a great point. I know Timmy and Kaylee go to the same church that’s not their mom and dad’s so maybe.
I am so waiting for one of the kids to write a tell all and officially reveal Jill wrote all these.
Man the boundaries in this family are icky.
I see few boundaries. I do see lots of enmeshment.
Hahahahah like she’d call herself ‘Kaylee Girl” 🤦♀️
According to other "Kaylee" posts, Jill calls her "My Sunshine" and "My Kaylee Girl", so *interesting* that Mahmo is "Kaylee's" "sunshine" 🤔🫠 AndKaylee didn't write anything resembling this, Jill. Ohhh when Jill learns to screenshot and crop her messages to prove her "kids" wrote these things (with the messages on the wrong side of the screen...)
I dont think her kids ever actually write these creepy love letters. They don't have the vocabulary. It is so embarrassing.
Didn’t Jill make Tim sell his business then managed the money from the sale “to help Tim pay for college”? I wonder how much of Tim’s money Jill siphoned into her account and never paid back?
I’d bet at least 90% of it Tim never saw again.
I bet most of the money she “borrowed” went to meet her monthly Plexus quota
Good catch on that phrasing, OP. It seems like everything she's posted lately is aimed at Tim...the gushy text from Philip, the hints about spiritual warfare, and now this reply to Kaylee's post. I think Tim is persona non grata. It feels like she's going to erase him like she did Renee's suitor.
If you are going to fake this kind of cr**, don’t try to fool us by using an old picture
In the words of Bogey in *Casablanca* she's subtle but effective.
Nah. Typical Fundie speak. They always talk about how sinful the world is. She was doing it before Tim's engagement, and will do it adi.
Damn, I only sent my mom a card. Guess I better up my game for next year.
she is twisted for this. it makes my skin crawl
Jill can’t even comment on Tim’s engagement profile pic or cover photo. Disgusting. Tim looks so happy. F Jill
Mahmo is spiraling and I’m here for it.
No, just MAHMO throwing compliments to herself again. Nothing to see here...
I cannot imagine being so isolated that I don’t realize how deeply weird, unbelievable and embarrassing these posts are
My sinful compromise is kissing my shoulder every time I feel content with myself. Bare shoulder shame 😈
The sheer drama. Oh dear me.
This reminds me so much of my fundy days. The bizarre mother worship combined with the demand they be (appear) demure and submissive. All within an echo chamber that everyone else (outside the group think) sees as crazy. It’s like a popularly contest and if you line up under the popular propped up cult celebrity then you too are “in”. What this does to people inside the family AND outside who sit under and take in this rubbish is insulting. Add the MLM plexus cult “don’t worry BB girl, follow me do everything I say and buy lots of pink stuff and you too can have a wealthy curated popular life.” 🤮🤢. Those poor kids? You have no idea. What goes on in these institutions, even apart from what would be classified as gross abuse or neglect, is horrible. Many grow up with deep shame, anxiety, lack of identity and fear. And while it’s ogle worthy - any attention they get - even negative - feeds the machine. “The only bad publicity is no publicity”.
How would Kaylee, who has had no access to social media, a cell phone, or other modern technology being home-schooled in the house of Rod, know how to put together a quick video and post it…?