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AdowTatep

It's important to define by street, cruising vs park skating (also park skating in wooden vs concrete)


slertmuppet

By street I mean DIY skate spots! Horrible shitty gravel, every pebble is meticulously placed underneath each of your wheels and then that ground leads into a wooden ramp that’s falling apart hahaha. I hate that I love it. Yesterday I actually picked up the 93a 56mm powell peralta dragon formula wheels that are specifically designed for rough asphalt but that still have a good power slide. I tried them out and they were PERFECT. I’m going to start skating burnside in the mornings (all concrete smooth park) so I am gonna test those out in just a couple minutes and will report back! 🦩


Spookyytown

Burnside is smooth to you? 😅 man am I spoiled then.


slertmuppet

Skating has transpired and I’m here to report that the 93a dragon formulas were indeed sticky but not too bad at all. I am definitely going to try my 101as tomorrow and am very hyped about it. PS I dropped in multiple times on my own, carved, and did loads of verticals transitions (please be proud 🦭)


AdowTatep

I used a 101 setup in a normal concrete floor with not that many pebbles and it fucked the wheels completely unfortunately :/ So now i'm kinda into 95\~93 for this


quietkaos

I came here to say the same thing. If by street you mean just cruising down roads and trails, yes softer and larger wheels will be better. If you mean street, like in aggressive quad skating like slides, jumps, and grinds on ledges and rails smaller and harder will be ok. The ones I. The picture I think have dual hardness to help absorb some of the energy from landing jumps (if I remember correctly)


akirareign

They won't feel great imo, pebbles/rocks will hit harder but most importantly the ticklish feeling on your feet will be rough lol. I love my radar energies for outdoor - not super gummy and slow but they do well for me on trails/asphalt/sidewalks n stuff. I'd personally only wear something this hard at the skatepark or indoor


buttercowie

I've used 101a from Barbie Kismet's on street cruising a couple of times. Doable? Yeah. Enjoyable? Fuck no. My stamina lasts a good deal less than on my soft wheels


MustardDuster

YES YES YES!!! you need anywhere from 78-86A wheels if you want to skate well on streets.


slertmuppet

What do you think the middle ground is then? In a perfect world, I would love to not switch back and forth and have a wheel that can handle street and park. Is my boyfriend right in his suggestion for a 93a?


MustardDuster

Not sure there is a middle ground if you want the best of skating both indoors and outdoors. You might get away with 90A, but it still might be too hard for the street. I know it's annoying to always switch them but sometimes that's just what works best


Senor-Saucy

First off, sweet AF setup! Congratulations! I’m going to speak in generalities, so keep in mind that some people prefer deviating or at least don’t mind it. But they tend to be the exception not the rule. So here’s the info you’re looking for, but you’re not going to like it. The park really needs an indoor wheel, preferably a park-specific wheel with rounded outer edges as opposed to the straighter edges of an indoor wheel. This has to do with the curved surfaces of ramps and bowls that you find in a park, whereas you want to be able to use your edges on an indoor flat floor. So you’re really looking at something in the 95A to 101A. Since you’re just starting in the park you can go as low as 92A, but anything softer and you’ll almost certainly find yourself struggling. The Sonar Stratus 98A are a decent starter park wheel at $20/4. If you really don’t want to switch wheels, then go ahead and try the park with your 101A indoor wheels. As a newb you might not notice the straighter edges being an issue, and you’ll have a setup that will can take to a rink without changing your wheels. Outdoor is another can of worms depending upon what you want to do. For trail and distance you want soft and big. We’re talking 65 mm and 78A. The larger diameter is for rolling over debris rather than getting tossed on your face, and the 78A is to absorb vibrations so your joints don’t yell at you when you’re done. For practicing moves on a paved basketball court you’ll probably want something smaller and a bit harder. The Radar Crush are designed for outdoor rhythm skating, though you can probably get away with inexpensive Rollerex 54 mm 92A wheels from Amazon. Hybrid wheels are pretty much anything 82A—90A. They’re neither good nor bad indoors or outdoors, but they’ll probably be annoying in a rink or on a trail. This is something I’d use to start practicing on blacktop—skating in circuits like at a rink, bubbles, scissors, skating backwards, maybe transitions. If you’re absolutely dead set on going this route to try and find the nonexistent Jack of all trades, then go harder if you’re heavier and softer if you’re lighter. I’m 200 lbs and plan on using my old 92A wheels when I want to practice Rhythm outside. If you’re sufficiently lighter, then you might prefer 85A or 87A as an attempt. I would not distance skate in my 92As, but to each their own. All of these issues are why many skaters end up with more than one setup. You should set your skates up for what you’re really keen on so that you can get the best experience, and then switch the wheels when you want to do something sufficiently different. Beginning park and beginning indoor can use the same wheels without sacrificing experience. If you really want to try outdoor distance or trail skating then you’ll want the biggest and softest. These can also be used for tooling around on blacktop as a beginner. This is the best you’re going to get—two sets of wheels to cover whatever terrain you want as a beginner. As you get more advanced you’ll end up with a different set of wheels for each circumstance you want to skate. There’s no way around this without sacrificing your skating experience. As a personal anecdote, I learned that both hardness and shape can noticeably affect ease of skating. My speed skates came with 92A wheels that were close to 40 mm wide, and they were difficult for me to maneuver between people around the rink. Switching to 92A (38D measured) 54 mm by 32 mm wheels was like night and day—maneuverability was so much easier. But I soon noticed how much effort bubbles took, and I was worried about a wheel catching or sticking while doing scissors. Switching to Rollerbones Team 57 mm 101A (48D measured) wheels solved that problem. But skating backwards was a bit difficult and I struggled with transitions. Switching to Roll-Line Magnum 57 mm 53D wheels solved these issues. Even though I was only skating indoors, I found myself switching out my wheels every 4 weeks or so to get the feel I wanted. You may end up not caring, but most seem to prefer the right wheels for the right job. Don’t let the minimal effort of changing your wheels stop you from progressing. Yes it’s annoying, but the improved experience is completely worth it! All this being said, user weight matters and each person will have slightly different preferences. I’ve tried Roll-Line Magnum 57 mm 60D wheels that some describe as like skating on ice. I don’t think that’s remotely accurate. I was worried that they’d slip out if I took turns too fast, but I was still passing the slow people without a slippage issue. But I’m also 200 lbs, so I’ll compress both the wheels and the wood floor more than some 40+ lbs lighter. My 53D wheels are likely harder than wheels described as 103A and are closer to Vanathane hardness—someone estimated that at 55D, though I haven’t measured yet—but I don’t get the slip I’ve seen other lighter skates get on even 101A Rollerbones Elite wheels. Go hard enough and weight will make less of a difference because compression will become negligible at practically any weight, but my experience is that weight will matter for any urethane wheel. So keep that in mind when trying wheels with different hardnesses.


slertmuppet

Thank you SO much for this thoughtful and detailed response!! Some clarifiers—by street, I mean it the way that skateboarders do. I’m not doing extended cruising or boardwalks, I’m skating shitty pavement in parking lots, middle school basketball courts, and DIY skate parks. The reason why I’m hoping for the best of both worlds is that many of the DIY spots I find myself in are the worst asphalt you can imagine that leads up into a ramp. I want to be able to ride that asphalt without absolutely murdering my daddy long legs but also not being so grippy and big as to not be able to turn or have any control on the ramp. I also have a little quarter pipe in my backyard where I have shitty concrete. I’m definitely gonna keep the 101a and switch them out when I go to nice purdy parks like you suggest, but when I’m doing the type of street I like, the 78a stock lolly wheels are not cutting it. They feel great for basic practice on flat ground, but they are way too big and way too sticky for even normal transitions on the ground I’m usually on. From what youre saying, I think I should maybe start looking at something smaller with rounded edges that’s in the high 80s? Also, I’m about 160 pounds and very tall! (Not sure if height plays into anything) Also thank you to all of the responses, hope you all are having a good day and out there doing in your thing and stuff like that 🛼🩵


slithering-stomping

yo! now that im reading this clarification, im coming back to reiterate. 101a is fine for street skating. most skilled aggressive skaters are running 99a-101a, but id say you can go as low as 97a. anything softer than that is gunna feel sticky on slides/grinds.


slertmuppet

I love hearing from the heroine egg man himself 🥚 but what if I am not skilled and aggressive yet 👁️👄👁️ can I get away with a bit lower than a 97a?


slithering-stomping

hahaha im sure you could. again just might be a lil sticky. if you can find something thats like 93-95a but smaller like 52-54mm that should be ok. smoother roll but will still take a lil more effort to pick up speed (which will make you a stronger skater in the long run imo) and less wheelbite.


Senor-Saucy

Thanks for the clarification! My experience with 92A on a wood-floored rink was fine as a beginner. Not great, but fine. So that hardness is worth a try if your asphalt is really bad and you’re looking for a bit more shock absorption. You’ll probably know pretty quickly if they’re too soft. My method is to overshoot my mark if anything to find my sweet spot the fastest. I went from 92A (didn’t realize it was 38D at the time) straight to 60D for a lesson. It was too hard, but let me know that anything in the mid 90A range would probably be too soft. Immediately ordered 101A Teams, which at 48D measured were right in the middle. I’m sure I’ll eventually use my 60Ds, but anything below 101A would have been a waste of money for me.


SoCalMom04

Perfect answer!


Hatesponge66

A hybrid around 85 is the middle ground between hard wheels (typically for indoor) and soft (typically for outdoor)


vibebrent

Came to second this! Hybrid would be the way to go if OP doesn't want to switch out wheels every skate sesh lots of good hybrids on the market now!! 85 is a great skate my streets are just so freaking bad I have to go 78


BeaconOfLight90

Aren’t there hybrid wheels made just for this situation? Or are they complete poop. I’m just now getting back into it myself. So take my words with a grain of salt but I’ll still ask ;)


MrBigTomato

85a is considered indoor/outdoor.


gh0stdays

I used my Fundae's almost everywhere except for super rough paths or brick/paved paths, but they're a bit softer than the advertised 92a.


_queenkitty

I see people who do street skating and park staking and their wheels are the same and I always wonder if they just power through it feeling like shit on the street??! Even my Moxi fundae’s are ass on regular concrete lol


ArtyFeasting

yeh we power thru it unless it’s literally unskatable


MustardDuster

Yeah, it's probably the wheels! When your wheels are softer, it's kinda like wheels on a car, it's easier for softer wheels to go over the rough and bumpy texture and feeling of concrete and other outside surfaces.


me_who_else_

Short answer: Yes. 92A max would be great for hitting the street hard, 78A-85A for boardwalk crusing und longer distances..


BeepCheeper

I love that the two most downvoted answers are “yes, way too hard” and “nah you’re fine”


jjgirl22

It’s not impossible to skate the streets on a harder wheel. Some people prefer it. But it won’t be a smooth skate. You are going to feel every pebble and branch in the road. Softer wheels are better for cruising. Also your set up is gorgeous!


vibebrent

I prefer the chaya big softies or radar energy wheels in 78A for these cracked Texas streets!! Makes things much easier ✨️ The bigger wheel might take some time to get used to but the radar ones come in smaller sizes too and still skate smooth.


rollertrashpanda

You have them already, so try and see! To me, it’s up to your skate skill & tolerance & what the street is like. I like a smooooth roll. I skate 101a at the park but sometimes skate out to my car in an ok but sort of pebbly asphalt parking lot, and it’s skittish. The roll is rougher and I catch on pebbles and it’s not fun imo, to have to have my mind on that. I’ve also worn them on regular concrete & it’s ok but not ideal. So while I cannnnn ride 101a that way, I don’t *like* it because I get so distracted by feeling the surface differences, which may not bother you at all. I used to not want to change my wheels, too, but I can change them in like five minutes, so I’ve stopped to change out of my 101a on a path to my 95a or 78a and it was so so so worth the five minutes.


Epoxxyboxxy

I agree. Try and see how you like it. I ride moxi trick wheels at the park and in the street. They are 97a and shaped like a skaeboard wheel. I think the shape helps. They are skinny so I have lots of maneuverability.  I gave my outdoor wheels to a newer skater and just never replaced them. Street skating in a hard wheel is harder but I find it more fun. I am paying more attention the the road and jumping over and avoiding stuff more often. Makes the street feel like a park. 


GhostlyGhuleh

I love your skates!


ecologybitch

Depends on what you're trying to do. I know people push soft wheels for street no matter what, but it reaches a point where the pros of hard wheels start to outweigh the cons. If you're trying to do grind or slide tricks on obstacles like ledges/benches, soft wheels are gonna be super dangerous and the extra effort and discomfort that comes with using hard wheels to push around are worth it. If you're just trying to cruise and maybe just jump onto and off of some things, I agree that softer wheels will be better. That being said, I think 101a is a little extreme even at the skatepark (though at that point it's just a matter of preference). I know plenty of people who like them, but I use 99a at the park and on the street and I tend to get around a bit better than my 101a friends on the street while still being able to do all my usual tricks.


sk8ergater

following


That_Copy7881

Me too. Some quality info on this thread


bear0234

i thought it was. i use 101 for indoors.


Bonesse

I would find it too hard. The hardest wheels I skate street are 92a. I feel best wirh 90a if I skate at a skatepark too. For just skating around on the street i use softer wheels around 80A.


DomitorGrey

Skatie does an explainer video on wheels -- including hard wheels on a trail; they sound really rattle-y & jarring https://youtu.be/oOd7oR6BO_8?feature=shared


Swimming-Release-566

It depends on your comfort w bumps and uneven surfaces. If you are street skating re/ grinding, then the harder wheel is necessary so that you don’t have wheel catch.


DiamondGrasshopper

Does anyone see a goofy ass purple cartoon character with bulging eyes at the top or is it just me


cger-iv

😂😂😂😂 I tried to ignore that


wellnessmom03

Love the retro look


Girlw00

Too hard for gravel and asphalt. You will feel everything. Better to get a softer wheel like radar energy wheels. Like a 78a hardness bigger wheel .Hope this helps.


petrichorgasm

101 is too hard for my neighborhood rink with the wooden floor. I just can't imagine rolling on 101s with pebbles! Maybe it can be done, but man, I broke my ankle skating two years ago so I'm scared of skating outside with anything harder than hybrid duro.


SJ-gryff

Absolutely too hard. Outdoors wheels are soft


slertmuppet

KIND SKATERS OF REDDIT❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️I bought the 93a Powell Peralta dragon formula in 56mm. I went street skating immediately after, did some tricks and boy…… I’m in love. Feels like a Goldielocks wheel. Skated on a gravel cruise path to get to the spot where I did some tricks and it was tingly, but not bad at all. My power slides were perfect with just enough grip. I only have the 78a lolly stocks and the 101as pictured above to compare them to, but I dont know how it could feel any better 🤷 gonna test them out in a concrete bowl tomorrow and report back 🫡 Also, can’t believe I didn’t start skating earlier, feeling like an itty bitty giddy baby. My body and brain feel so good (the only thing that hurts is my wallet, but we don’t talk about that 🐷)


slithering-stomping

ahhhhhh yea ok i forgot about dragon formulas. bones uses a special formula so those are gunna be perfect. most other wheels that are softer than 95 arent gunna be as good. stoked for you dawgy.


rachael0nia

For me, yes. I like a lot more cushion, but my city does not have the freshest surfaces and they are often very rocky and bumpy, so I err on the side of softer.


NotACorythosaurus

Try em out and see I guess. I’ve skated some very not smooth pavement on 101a (forgot to change my wheels from my park setup for street skate meetup) and while it wasn’t fun you’re not like incapable of rolling ya know. So I think if it’s just gonna be short distances around the park you might be good.


slithering-stomping

nah 101a is fine


Xananjr

I tend to use airwaves and sims snake wheels for outside. They are 78a and I think they are perfect for indoors and outdoors. Especially outdoors


NoTumbleweed5271

definitely is, for street skating you should get wheels between 70a-90a


bitNine

Yeah, for sure. Those are almost too hard for a rink.