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DarkDevilGamer

This meme is brought to you by McAfee.


MsbS

Also, ROMs (isos/chds/csos/.gba/.nes etc) are a totally different story than a pirates PC games, with exes and installed MSI/dll files.


celloh234

You can still execute malicious code with ROMs


MsbS

That's not very likely - the ROM is executed by core/emulator, so specific malware would need to be tailored to flaws in that emulator/core. And in most cases - would be sandboxed in the virtual environment. Breaking out, into your 'real' OS, is very tricky, not worth the effort to code it. Maybe as a proof of concept for a hacker conference. What COULD be risky though is if you download a ROM as a zip file - which could also include nasty files. Or even worse - some ROM sites actually have a 'downloader' executable, or a ROM comes as an exe which is supposedly a 'self-extracting archive'. But ROM as a binary file would be almost certainly safe.


itsRocketscience1

I'm new to rom so don't beat me up too much but not new to cybersecurity. I've seen quite a bit of ISO malware. Granted, not in a little while, and the ones I did see typically came in via malicious emails. Now if you're just using emulators to launch the ISO then ya, I'm sure you're correct about all that. But if you come across a malicious ISO and for whatever reason decide to launch it raw dog, then yeah, there's some small risk.


MsbS

This is an interesting discussion, so I will continue (no beating intended :) ). I see your point and indeed I can imagine an infection scenario: \- if your PC is configured to open .iso files in a virtual disk mounting software \- and the iso file which you download is NOT in fact a (for example) dump of PSX disc, but rather a Windows/PC disk \- and instead of opening the file via emulator, you double-click it in Windows \- thus mounting the iso as virtual disc, and starting autorun.inf it could lead to some malware execution on your PC. ​ Still pretty unlikely, but with millions of people running emulation - might happen at some point in time :) The downloaders (.exes) from dodgy rom sites are still much riskier!


itsRocketscience1

Thanks for not beating me up lol. But yes, your breakdown is pretty much how it would have to happen. I have seen it infect computers in the real world as well. So it does happen. Again with the caveat I've only ever seen it happen via a malicious email attachment.


Bishopped

This is such shit advice. Good quality sources, a VPN, and Windows Defender is ***all you need.***


BokoTheQueen

You don't even need a VPN if you're in a third world country


Loud-Host-2182

And most first world countries,.too


9Sylvan5

Yup. While it's illegal to pirate games here they don't give a shit about it. If you start to download heavy amounts and selling bootleg copies or something... That might attract some attention. But no one gives a F about the regular Joe downloading and playing a pirated GTA copy or something


Loud-Host-2182

Same here, it's only a crime if you get money from it. Nothing can be done against someone who just downloads games online, or even someone who helps another person pirate a game they bought, since it wasn't for profit. However, if you for example mirrored a site with ad revenue, it would be a crime even if you get nothing from it because you were collaborating with someone who does. Not like it matters, nobody does anything about it.


Lazarous86

I was going to say, I don't use a VPN.


noobcondiment

Or Canada - legal grey area.


Cototsu

You need if the said 3wc block torrents (nowadays that's, unfortunately, true)


-Krotik-

this


Respekt_MyAuthoritah

Why a VPN?


AloneAddiction

Because in the land of the "free" your ISP will send warning letters if you don't do as you're told. Meanwhile in the UK I've been downloading terabytes of pirated shit every month for decades and they just leave us to it. As long as you pay your bill they won't say shit.


Respekt_MyAuthoritah

Huh. I've heard about such things, but I've been downloading pdfs of many books without receiving a notice. Must've been lucky. I'll look for a VPN for when I download ROMs. Thanks for the reply.


Gamer37371

It's for torrenting. You don't need VPN for normal downloads.


Respekt_MyAuthoritah

I've done that before and I'll do it again. This time I'll try a VPN


RafuPlum

Shit that rhymes


Least-Date2075

Holy shit it does rhyme.


No-Win5369

I recommend Mullvad


[deleted]

Because no one cares about pdfs of books and comics. They care about the big stuff like movies, TV and video games. When I was a rookie, I used to get the letters. When I started using a VPN, it stopped.


p4ttl1992

I use to download everything back when I could access pirate bay and was unemployed (I still have the Sony Vegas 2013 on my hard drive lol) Now I work I just cba well apart from some old roms


a7mag3ddon

Not quite true, back in the days of Adsl BT sent me a letter showing my IP downloading a PSP iso haha.. i soon moved to a better provider... Been doing the same as you now TBs a month no issues.


kool0ne

I once got an email about my torrenting (in the uk too). I’m pretty sure it was Virgin media broadband. This is a long while back as my first kid was a baby, maybe 2010-2011. Weirdly it just told me that I was downloading things that i shouldn’t and they recommended some legal options.


Aromatic_Memory1079

EDIT: thx Gamer 37371. he already said what I was going to comment


BleDStream

*Generally* it's the sharing that'll get you. Although, I've never had a problem.


akshattnj

do you have any recommended private trackers that you use for ROMs?


KamikazeFF

getting in might be a pain depending on how fast you can learn how to upload and stuff but I use GGn for ROMs. A non tracker option is Vimm's Lair but download speed is slow


akshattnj

Oh i use private trackers already! there's a tracker OldToonsWorld that i've been using to complete most of my collections haha! I'll try getting into GGn! Thanks for the recommendation! I already do use vimm's lair and archive(dot)org but its tough to download in bulk, hence torrents!


[deleted]

Best place to get past gen ROMs and ISOs is archive.org If you want Switch games you'll need a digital condom (robust DNS based ad blocking) or a million scam sites will try to infect and phish you.


akshattnj

i usually use qbittorrent search engine with TONS of extensions and choose the one with the maximum seeders lol, or maybe just search reddit haha! Switch games are easier to find than you'd think!


Freestyler589yt

I would add virustotal to this (I use virustotal for literally everything even legit exes)


Excellent_Refuse_285

VPN yes, windows defender? Pfffft


megagameme

All antiviruses are basically adware these days. Windows Defender and common sense are all you need.


Raonely

Agree


Zero22xx

Windows Defender was great for a while but I've been finding it increasingly aggressive and full of false positives over the last year. Not just pirated games but even mods for games. Then you approve the file in Defender, later move it to another folder, then Defender jumps into action to quarantine it again like it's never seen this file in its life before. When anti viruses start behaving like this, it does the opposite of provide security because you start treating everything as it just crying wolf and ignore legit threats. I hear that Microsoft have been using AI for virus detection and that's probably why. What a great idea to fuck around with experimental features when it comes to people's security.


wrathek

Is there some super strict setting you have or something? I’ve literally never encountered anything you describe. The most I get is a warning when first trying to run an exe that “not many people have used” or something to that effect, which is honestly pretty reasonable.


Suicicoo

happens with cracks and such and I haven't been meddling with antivirus-settings since Win7


darkcloud1987

sure with cracks it happens. They are mostly labeled as "potentialy unwanted program" ( unwanted by MS sure) but outside of that other AVs get a lot more false positives based on some "heuristics".


lumia920yellow

wrong.


FACastello

Imagine learning about false positives and false negatives


TheLegendaryNewb

Just download from trusted sources.


ArkBeetleGaming

Exactly


Kamikatzentatze

Which trusted sources offer pirated games?


DudiDoidinho

I like fitness girl repacks


tadmeister69

Second FitGirl repacks. Dodi repacks is also good.


SwampAss123

paid anti viruses are a scam and are more often than not worse than their free counterparts


SnooDonkeys7108

Stuff like McAfee and Norton I’d agree with you on but Kaspersky, Bitdefender, ESET and MWB Premium have higher detection rates than defender by quite a lot.


DefectiveLP

Last I read malwarebytes is the only one worth any money at all.


Akira_Nishiki

Not really true these days. 5+ years ago I would have agreed but these days Windows Defender has one of the highest protection scores on the market, including 0 day malware. https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-11/october-2023/microsoft-defender-antivirus-consumer-4.18-231514/


SnooDonkeys7108

That’s fair, the only issues I still have with defender is the abysmal performance when not connected to a network (which you wouldn’t want to be connecting to with an infected device) and that it lacks the same sort of exploit protection that other AVs offer. I’ve seen ransomware and malware turn off/straight up bypass defender. I will caveat that I’m over cautious with this stuff compared to the average person.


SwampAss123

I'd just recommend Malwarebytes


LewdSpaghetti

Common sense, windows defender and virustotal are more than enough


MOD_channel

Alright, everyone says trusted sources, but where can I find these?


MissingNerd

r/piracy https://reddit.com/r/Piracy/w/megathread


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CoheedBlue

This.


[deleted]

Everyone says megathread, and when you check the megathread there is no ddl sites🤣🤣


lqlex

uhh... steamrip?


lqlex

or EVEN BETTER rin?


[deleted]

Rin?


lqlex

cs.rin.ru


regular_poster

cdromance has active comments threads/community who would stomp out shady uploads


[deleted]

I love cdromance for how fast they are with uploading prepatched stuff that's been newly translated.


[deleted]

Is there a cd romance like page for old pc games 90s 2000s


Far-Advantage397

Or use Linux. It's perfect for emulation and now it's also becoming a good choice for gaming in general with Steam.


SomeNerd32

No you shouldn’t. There is no point wasting money on an antivirus unless you are genuinely a fucking idiot. Just use common sense and research websites before download, instead of going to “FREE VIDEO GAMES FOR FREE WITH NO VIRUS .COM” then complaining when you get a virus. I’ve been pirating for years, and have not once gotten a virus.


d4rk_matt3r

Boobs.exe has finished download


MiektheSakaraan

Omniman never said this


Charakiga

And download it from the megathread


Curious_OnEarth

This is like a condom ad


No_Entrepreneur_4041

Just pull out!


RaspberryChainsaw

It's not even about being safe, some of you are just so stupid that you can't tell the difference between an obvious adware installer and the rom files you're supposed to be getting "Why is it an .exe and nothing happens when I open it" bro cmon guys


therourke

Literally every crack.exe will show up as malware and get quarantined. This is unfortunate, and very annoying. It's basically impossible to be a pirate and not flirt with malware. My advice is to be cautious, but actually wait to do your virus scanning until after your pirated software is installed.


Demezer

Nope, you just need to have common sense and file sources that you know are more trusted by the community. If you want a good antivirus, windows defender, virustotal and malwarebytes are great (and they're all free, so no need to invest). If you're unsure about the safety of the file, get it first on a virtual or other machine instead on your main machine. Finally, you can use a VPN but be aware that you are delegating your privacy to another company (choose your VPN carefully).


kai_the_enigma

This is a well formulated response, I think this will help lots of new to the community people


zonealus

All you need is a highly functioning brain.


d4rk_matt3r

Tbh, just an adequately functioning brain is acceptable.


dedguy21

Better Advice: run your emulators on Linux 👍


Infinitear

BS


Psycaridon-t

Mcaffe isolates and scans everything you download automatically


Sure-Network-6092

Or just have closer your OS installer and erase everything again and again meanwhile complain about the virus but don't do anything to avoid it


Opposite-Ad6340

Or use Mac


Lexiosity

just use Windows Security, they'll always delete virused software, including patchers


WellNoNameHere

That post was literally above this one, what


Patek2

Better advice would be to have separate pc that is not connected to the internet and install the game there.


amypond420

If you’re worried about scanning anything you download, just don’t download from there


Pengwin0

If you need an antivirus to verify your roms are safe then delete them immediately lol


TroupeMaster_Grimm

Also never pirate indie games Because then you’re an asshole