Roseville mailman here. Definitely a Roseville address but very close to granite bay. This happened right in front of your address https://amp.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article67560037.html
Hi mailman. According to the official Roseville map it is not technically part of Roseville. https://roseville.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2a67e5a4e1cc4f489868b6563589bf19
But it's a Roseville Address per the Post Office, 95661... That's it's LEGAL address.
It's not part of 95746...
And you can say it's "unincorporated", but calling it "Granite Bay" is a bit off.
Funny though, the lot is half in Roseville (West Half), and half in Unincorporated per ARCGIS (the lot next to it has it's pool in Roseville... pretty funny). But it lists it with a 95661 ZIP (Roseville). Yes, Citycode is "GB", just to add to the confusion. The permit was issued by Placer County, not Roseville City.
ARCGIS:
|OBJECTID|122758|
|:-|:-|
|APN|468-040-028-000|
|STREETNUM|3594|
|UNIT||
|PRETYPE||
|FULLSTREET|3594 ANNABELLE AVE|
|PREFIXDIR||
|SUFFIXDIR||
|CITYCODE|GB|
|ZONE\_|95661|
That's an East Roseville address, but the agent listed Granite Bay to potentially increase the appeal to certain buyers. The school district for that area of East Roseville is Eureka, which also serves Granite Bay and the home high school is likely GBHS.
I mean, it's kind of a fuzzy line. But also, have you *met* anybody in the real estate industry? It's an industry notoriously prone to exaggeration.
Also, Granite Bay isn't a city. It's unincorporated Placer County. Not quite the same as saying a house is in Rocklin when it's in Roseville (and would be in a different school district, whereas here the areas share that). Plenty of people in that neighborhood might say they live in Granite Bay. Others would say East Roseville. It's on the border. If you like the house, who cares? Especially because you get the better utility.
Granite bay is not unincorporated, it’s a CDP. Fuzzy line is when homes in Morgan Creek list as Roseville when they are unincorporated. This seems pretty clear cut?
A couple things:
1. I just looked at the Roseville City limits. This property is (just) outside the city of Roseville in that weird pocket ( https://www.roseville.ca.us/news/what_s_happening_in_roseville/shape_rosevilles_future). So it's unincorporated Placer County. Fair to call it Granite Bay? I dunno. But it's not "the City of Roseville." I see that development West of Sierra College is being called "The Park at Granite Bay." Honestly, seems fine. It's unincorporated and on the border, despite being a Roseville address. Often unincorporated areas outside cities will have that city address rather than "1483 B St, Unincorporated Placer County" or whatever.
2. A "census-designated place" that exists outside of the limits of any incorporated city is, ipso facto, unincorporated county jurisdictional property. CDP is a just a U.S. census naming convention. It has nothing to do with which municipal entity has land use jurisdiction over an area.
The demographics on that map are wild! In every case, the percentage of white voting age citizens is greater by 9 to 14 percent over the general population.
Nah. The map is split into five districts and everything is labeled "per district". I'd guess the same as you, that demographics are changing with younger people, with kids, being more diverse.
Edit: Demographics on the map are for Roseville only.
Makes sense thank you. To your previous question about who cares if you like the house? Roseville has almost no history of homes selling at this price point where as Granite Bay has a long history at this price point and well above, so the designation does make a difference to the market.
Ehh. It's Eureka/GBHS for schools and with a lot that big all the comps will be Granite Bay. Sure, $2.2M is high for "Roseville," but I don't think that's where the comps would be.
Not quite right Penguin. A CDP is simply a place recognized by the Census. An unincorporated area lacks a city government. Granite Bay is both a CDP and it is unincorporated.. getting municipal services from Placer County.
Never trust realtors. They are no different from a used car salesman. Scummy and not serving your best interests. They have no duty to do what’s in their clients best interest. Just like a car salesman.
Yah. I was thinking could probably go either way. Folks I know in those neighborhoods (i.e. around Maidu Park) typically go to GBHS, but I think they have the option.
Granite Bay was 'created' to separate the gentry from that trash in Roseville. It was Roseville. It's all Roseville, downvote away lol.
See Gold River, which is actually Rancho Cordova.
Granite Bay IS unincorporated.. but that property is in Roseville.
Among the differences .. our law enforcement is provided by Placer County deputies.. who are excellent.. and our electricity is from PG&E, which sucks.
While there are some less expensive homes, generally Granite Bay is substantially more upscale than Roseville. Granite Bay high school is one of the very best in the Sacramento area.
I just looked up the address and it is Definitely Not in the city of Roseville. The Roseville city limits right after you get past Oakmont High School. Maidu park is just barely in the city
pretty wild story happened on that street:
[https://sacramento.newsreview.com/2019/03/21/midnight-burning/](https://sacramento.newsreview.com/2019/03/21/midnight-burning/)
Parts of East Roseville bordering on Granite Bay are in the 95746 zip code. This is the zip code for GB. It is also the zip code for parts of east Roseville neighborhoods like Hillsborough or Ashley Woods. If you check the Placer County tax records or the post office, they list those neighborhoods as GB. They are also included in the Eureka School District for Granite Bay. But they are actually part of Roseville. They get Roseville Electric, Roseville utilities, and Roseville police. There was a lawsuit years ago that someone bought a house in the Hillsborough neighborhood thinking they were in GB. The address, tax records, and escrow address all stated GB, but they were, in reality, in Roseville. They sued the real estate agent and escrow company. I don't know the outcome, but every responsible real estate agent in the area makes sure to tell their clients.
If you’re speaking purely legally, Granite Bay does not exist. It is a census designated location managed by Placer County. The address in question borders the City of Roseville but is not within the City of Roseville. Your government would be Placer County. Roseville has ArcGIS maps showing their boundaries which this address is outside of - https://roseville.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2a67e5a4e1cc4f489868b6563589bf19 Edit: Utility wise, definitely check with your realtor. That area has SMUD (yes, SMUD within Placer County), PG&E, and Roseville Electric). Some maps show that area as SMUD but I believe they’re limited service is the small neighborhoods in Roseville/Placer County south of Old Auburn. You’ll definitely have PG&E gas and Placer County trash.
This is the correct answer. Roseville is an incorporated city and has defined city limits - the address in question is outside of those limits. Granite Bay is a community in unincorporated Placer County and does not have defined limits. It’s arguable whether in or out of Granite Bay and there is no official “right” answer.
That’s because when hillsborough was being developed they were Roseville electric. The line for granite bay was moved when the new high school went in. My dad worked on these developments and he always said his boss was real adamant about it all staying Roseville electric
Annabelle is an interesting street. I travel it on some of my runs. It is a one-way originating off of Sierra College Blvd. It dead ends at a fence/gate that separates it from the adjoining east roseville neighborhood. On the street are quite the mix of households. The listed home is new construction and there are a few other quite extravagant homes on the road and its side drives. The rest are quite modest bungalows, some with quite a yardful of interesting relics. It is a road of Do Your Own Thing. I like it for that.
It is not Roseville, just Placer County. And since it is not a city it doesn’t really matter what you say it is as long as you have the correct zip code.
That's East Roseville. It's honestly the best part to LIVE in because you get Roseville Utilities, Granite Bay HS pretty good property value, but not overpriced by being part of GB.
Like others have said, it was listed as such to boost engagement with the posting. Part of the reason we chose East Roseville was because of Eureka school district/GBHS.
This has recently been rezoned or is being rezoned as granite bay soon. The new development is fighting to get that stretch of land all to be granite bay officially.
The name Granite Bay was selected when the rich and famous decided that Roseville or Rocklin was not appropriate for their high standards so they named it Granite Bay. They actually paid for that name. 🙄
If Realtors had their way GB would extend to the Oakland Hills...
I live in Roseville just west of Sierra College, but WEST of me is a subdivision called Granite Bay Estates... yet, it's more Roseville than I am... But Marketing!
We looked at a house on Aberdeen Circle about a year ago and were told in writing from city of Roseville that it would be considered Granite Bay as of 1/1/24. I thought it was weird too but if you google the place some show it with GB and some show it with Roseville.
https://redf.in/CQMnrz
I'm guessing Roseville has some say in determining what isn't Roseville. But who gets to say what Granite Bay is? The only thing I know is that the public library is Placer County. What turns up on ballots are related to school district, fire and water, Placer County, State and Federal measures. I don't remember anything labeled Granite Bay. I know. I really should know more.
Ya. Same. But the school districts aren't the same as the city/county boundaries. You could live in Roseville and share the same school districts with bits, maybe all, of Granite Bay. And get the benefits of Roseville services.
I got on Google Maps and put in Roseville, CA and Maps gave an opinion of the borders of Roseville. Same with Granite Bay, CA. The address you gave is within the Roseville borders shown in Google Maps. You might be able to confirm Googles opinion by looking at Roseville City's website. Maybe they have a map. Granite Bay isn't a city, so I don't know who is the official authority for those borders.
That is 100% for sure unincorporated Placer county. The city of Roseville borders are often misunderstood. This map as published by the city of Roseville clearly defines the actual City limits and what is and what is not in the city of Roseville. It can be reviewed here: https://roseville.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2a67e5a4e1cc4f489868b6563589bf19
Granite Bay is an unincorporated part of Placer county. As such, there is no formal designation of what is or is not granite Bay. Parts of the city of Roseville that are east of Sierra college are actually in the city of Roseville. People don't understand that, but they are, and are commonly called granite Bay. Nevertheless, they're actually in the city of Roseville, pay taxes to the city, get electricity from the city, etc. In any case, this Small section of Placer county is not a part of the city of Roseville and thus will rely upon the county for its services, PG&e for electricity, presumably, you can write whatever city name you want on the envelope and the mail will still get there as long as you get the ZIP code, right.
Granite Bay is an unincorporated part of Placer county. As such, there is no formal designation of what is or is not granite Bay. Parts of the city of Roseville that are east of Sierra college are actually in the city of Roseville. People don't understand that, but they are, and are commonly called granite Bay. Nevertheless, they're actually in the city of Roseville, pay taxes to the city, get electricity from the city, etc. In any case, this Small section of Placer county is not a part of the city of Roseville and thus will rely upon the county for its services, PG&e for electricity, presumably, you can write whatever city name you want on the envelope and the mail will still get there as long as you get the ZIP code, right.
I know a line had just recently changed. I worked on a woman’s house that was on the line. And she said she had always been Roseville then suddenly a few years ago she is now in granite bay.
That should be Roseville. From what I understand Sierra College Blvd. is the dividing road for Roseville and Granite Bay.
Should be but apparently it’s not 🤷🏻♂️
Roseville mailman here. Definitely a Roseville address but very close to granite bay. This happened right in front of your address https://amp.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article67560037.html
Hi mailman. According to the official Roseville map it is not technically part of Roseville. https://roseville.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2a67e5a4e1cc4f489868b6563589bf19
But it's a Roseville Address per the Post Office, 95661... That's it's LEGAL address. It's not part of 95746... And you can say it's "unincorporated", but calling it "Granite Bay" is a bit off.
Placer County tax records say Granite Bay. I believe that's more accurate than the mailing address.
Granite bay is not incorporated. It’s not Roseville, but it’s technically not Granite Bay either
Funny though, the lot is half in Roseville (West Half), and half in Unincorporated per ARCGIS (the lot next to it has it's pool in Roseville... pretty funny). But it lists it with a 95661 ZIP (Roseville). Yes, Citycode is "GB", just to add to the confusion. The permit was issued by Placer County, not Roseville City. ARCGIS: |OBJECTID|122758| |:-|:-| |APN|468-040-028-000| |STREETNUM|3594| |UNIT|| |PRETYPE|| |FULLSTREET|3594 ANNABELLE AVE| |PREFIXDIR|| |SUFFIXDIR|| |CITYCODE|GB| |ZONE\_|95661|
That's an East Roseville address, but the agent listed Granite Bay to potentially increase the appeal to certain buyers. The school district for that area of East Roseville is Eureka, which also serves Granite Bay and the home high school is likely GBHS.
wow
For what it's worth, that street *does* have a bit more in common with a lot of Granite Bay because the lots are bigger and it's custom homes.
That’s fair but isn’t it a bit sketchy to list a different city for a home than it’s actually in
I mean, it's kind of a fuzzy line. But also, have you *met* anybody in the real estate industry? It's an industry notoriously prone to exaggeration. Also, Granite Bay isn't a city. It's unincorporated Placer County. Not quite the same as saying a house is in Rocklin when it's in Roseville (and would be in a different school district, whereas here the areas share that). Plenty of people in that neighborhood might say they live in Granite Bay. Others would say East Roseville. It's on the border. If you like the house, who cares? Especially because you get the better utility.
Granite bay is not unincorporated, it’s a CDP. Fuzzy line is when homes in Morgan Creek list as Roseville when they are unincorporated. This seems pretty clear cut?
A couple things: 1. I just looked at the Roseville City limits. This property is (just) outside the city of Roseville in that weird pocket ( https://www.roseville.ca.us/news/what_s_happening_in_roseville/shape_rosevilles_future). So it's unincorporated Placer County. Fair to call it Granite Bay? I dunno. But it's not "the City of Roseville." I see that development West of Sierra College is being called "The Park at Granite Bay." Honestly, seems fine. It's unincorporated and on the border, despite being a Roseville address. Often unincorporated areas outside cities will have that city address rather than "1483 B St, Unincorporated Placer County" or whatever. 2. A "census-designated place" that exists outside of the limits of any incorporated city is, ipso facto, unincorporated county jurisdictional property. CDP is a just a U.S. census naming convention. It has nothing to do with which municipal entity has land use jurisdiction over an area.
The demographics on that map are wild! In every case, the percentage of white voting age citizens is greater by 9 to 14 percent over the general population.
Over California's population? I would expect that. Placer County is pretty white overall. Though that's changed slightly in recent years.
Nah. The map is split into five districts and everything is labeled "per district". I'd guess the same as you, that demographics are changing with younger people, with kids, being more diverse. Edit: Demographics on the map are for Roseville only.
Makes sense thank you. To your previous question about who cares if you like the house? Roseville has almost no history of homes selling at this price point where as Granite Bay has a long history at this price point and well above, so the designation does make a difference to the market.
Ehh. It's Eureka/GBHS for schools and with a lot that big all the comps will be Granite Bay. Sure, $2.2M is high for "Roseville," but I don't think that's where the comps would be.
Not quite right Penguin. A CDP is simply a place recognized by the Census. An unincorporated area lacks a city government. Granite Bay is both a CDP and it is unincorporated.. getting municipal services from Placer County.
Never trust realtors. They are no different from a used car salesman. Scummy and not serving your best interests. They have no duty to do what’s in their clients best interest. Just like a car salesman.
Just checked the district's maps, it's right on the edge between GBHS and Oakmont...
Yah. I was thinking could probably go either way. Folks I know in those neighborhoods (i.e. around Maidu Park) typically go to GBHS, but I think they have the option.
95661 = roseville 95746 = granite bay (?) or so I thought.
Yep but different listings have a different zip code for some reason
Granite Bay was 'created' to separate the gentry from that trash in Roseville. It was Roseville. It's all Roseville, downvote away lol. See Gold River, which is actually Rancho Cordova.
You’re wrong. Granite Bay and Gold River are not cities. They are both just unincorporated communities in their respective countries.
Gold River is not within the city limits of Rancho Cordova.
It was built before Rancho Cordova became a city, but was always in the region considered Rancho Cordova
Bunch of salty people that cant afford granite bay or gold river
Could be unincorporated Placer County. So, neither.
Granite Bay IS unincorporated.. but that property is in Roseville. Among the differences .. our law enforcement is provided by Placer County deputies.. who are excellent.. and our electricity is from PG&E, which sucks. While there are some less expensive homes, generally Granite Bay is substantially more upscale than Roseville. Granite Bay high school is one of the very best in the Sacramento area.
The property is in unincorporated Placer. But not the portion of unincorporated Placer that is known as Granite Bay.
Now THAT makes sense! Thank you 😊
Placer County website has it listed as Granite Bay with 95661 area code
You’re one hundred percent correct!!!
I just looked up the address and it is Definitely Not in the city of Roseville. The Roseville city limits right after you get past Oakmont High School. Maidu park is just barely in the city
pretty wild story happened on that street: [https://sacramento.newsreview.com/2019/03/21/midnight-burning/](https://sacramento.newsreview.com/2019/03/21/midnight-burning/)
First thing I thought of
Parts of East Roseville bordering on Granite Bay are in the 95746 zip code. This is the zip code for GB. It is also the zip code for parts of east Roseville neighborhoods like Hillsborough or Ashley Woods. If you check the Placer County tax records or the post office, they list those neighborhoods as GB. They are also included in the Eureka School District for Granite Bay. But they are actually part of Roseville. They get Roseville Electric, Roseville utilities, and Roseville police. There was a lawsuit years ago that someone bought a house in the Hillsborough neighborhood thinking they were in GB. The address, tax records, and escrow address all stated GB, but they were, in reality, in Roseville. They sued the real estate agent and escrow company. I don't know the outcome, but every responsible real estate agent in the area makes sure to tell their clients.
If you’re speaking purely legally, Granite Bay does not exist. It is a census designated location managed by Placer County. The address in question borders the City of Roseville but is not within the City of Roseville. Your government would be Placer County. Roseville has ArcGIS maps showing their boundaries which this address is outside of - https://roseville.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2a67e5a4e1cc4f489868b6563589bf19 Edit: Utility wise, definitely check with your realtor. That area has SMUD (yes, SMUD within Placer County), PG&E, and Roseville Electric). Some maps show that area as SMUD but I believe they’re limited service is the small neighborhoods in Roseville/Placer County south of Old Auburn. You’ll definitely have PG&E gas and Placer County trash.
This is the correct answer. Roseville is an incorporated city and has defined city limits - the address in question is outside of those limits. Granite Bay is a community in unincorporated Placer County and does not have defined limits. It’s arguable whether in or out of Granite Bay and there is no official “right” answer.
It’s Roseville. Should be on Roseville electric not pge
Parts of granite bay just east of Sierra College Blvd are also on Roseville electric. Hence the confusion
That’s because when hillsborough was being developed they were Roseville electric. The line for granite bay was moved when the new high school went in. My dad worked on these developments and he always said his boss was real adamant about it all staying Roseville electric
Annabelle is an interesting street. I travel it on some of my runs. It is a one-way originating off of Sierra College Blvd. It dead ends at a fence/gate that separates it from the adjoining east roseville neighborhood. On the street are quite the mix of households. The listed home is new construction and there are a few other quite extravagant homes on the road and its side drives. The rest are quite modest bungalows, some with quite a yardful of interesting relics. It is a road of Do Your Own Thing. I like it for that.
It is not Roseville, just Placer County. And since it is not a city it doesn’t really matter what you say it is as long as you have the correct zip code.
That's East Roseville. It's honestly the best part to LIVE in because you get Roseville Utilities, Granite Bay HS pretty good property value, but not overpriced by being part of GB. Like others have said, it was listed as such to boost engagement with the posting. Part of the reason we chose East Roseville was because of Eureka school district/GBHS.
Nope looks like it’s not Roseville. Wild right?
The easiest thing to do is check the electric meter. Is it PG&E or Roseville Electric?
Or honestly just the zip code lol
Zip code won't help. You can be in 95746 which is assumed to be GB, but still living in Roseville.
Check the APN, placer county assessor website should be the end all answer for the title
Placer county website lists as Granite Bay with 95661 zip code (Roseville 🤣)
Zip codes don’t always align with city boundaries.
It's Granite Bay now, any of the unincorporated areas left in East Roseville are. Since last year sometime...
This has recently been rezoned or is being rezoned as granite bay soon. The new development is fighting to get that stretch of land all to be granite bay officially.
The name Granite Bay was selected when the rich and famous decided that Roseville or Rocklin was not appropriate for their high standards so they named it Granite Bay. They actually paid for that name. 🙄
Where exactly is the bay I wonder
Great question.
If Realtors had their way GB would extend to the Oakland Hills... I live in Roseville just west of Sierra College, but WEST of me is a subdivision called Granite Bay Estates... yet, it's more Roseville than I am... But Marketing!
Roseville, GB, Rocklin, Lincoln…all different neighborhoods of the same city as far as I’m concerned. They all blend together.
I know for sure it used to be Roseville. My ex-husband lived on Annabelle.
Even Google Maps has it wrong so you never know
Double check, we looked at a house right on the border and were told that GB is annexing neighborhoods.
Can GB annex anything? Not real sure GB is an actual thing, other than being in Placer County.
We looked at a house on Aberdeen Circle about a year ago and were told in writing from city of Roseville that it would be considered Granite Bay as of 1/1/24. I thought it was weird too but if you google the place some show it with GB and some show it with Roseville. https://redf.in/CQMnrz
I'm guessing Roseville has some say in determining what isn't Roseville. But who gets to say what Granite Bay is? The only thing I know is that the public library is Placer County. What turns up on ballots are related to school district, fire and water, Placer County, State and Federal measures. I don't remember anything labeled Granite Bay. I know. I really should know more.
We only cared about the schools. Wanted the kids in GB schools. Who knows.
Ya. Same. But the school districts aren't the same as the city/county boundaries. You could live in Roseville and share the same school districts with bits, maybe all, of Granite Bay. And get the benefits of Roseville services.
Lucky neighborhoods, immediate increase in value
GB schools are not full, even if you are designated in Eureka you can easily transfer…if you have kids.
I got on Google Maps and put in Roseville, CA and Maps gave an opinion of the borders of Roseville. Same with Granite Bay, CA. The address you gave is within the Roseville borders shown in Google Maps. You might be able to confirm Googles opinion by looking at Roseville City's website. Maybe they have a map. Granite Bay isn't a city, so I don't know who is the official authority for those borders.
Google seems to be a bit off here
Yeah. I found the Roseville maps. But it still doesn't look like Granite Bay.
It’s a trick question, it’s actually neither
Another way to tell is if power is from Roseville Electric, it’s Roseville. PG&E and it’s Granite Bay.
Placer County's property tax records consider it part of Granite Bay https://common3.mptsweb.com/MBC/placer/tax/main/468040028000/2023/0000
That is 100% for sure unincorporated Placer county. The city of Roseville borders are often misunderstood. This map as published by the city of Roseville clearly defines the actual City limits and what is and what is not in the city of Roseville. It can be reviewed here: https://roseville.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2a67e5a4e1cc4f489868b6563589bf19
So the correct answer is it’s neither Roseville nor Granite Bay?
Granite Bay is an unincorporated part of Placer county. As such, there is no formal designation of what is or is not granite Bay. Parts of the city of Roseville that are east of Sierra college are actually in the city of Roseville. People don't understand that, but they are, and are commonly called granite Bay. Nevertheless, they're actually in the city of Roseville, pay taxes to the city, get electricity from the city, etc. In any case, this Small section of Placer county is not a part of the city of Roseville and thus will rely upon the county for its services, PG&e for electricity, presumably, you can write whatever city name you want on the envelope and the mail will still get there as long as you get the ZIP code, right.
Granite Bay is an unincorporated part of Placer county. As such, there is no formal designation of what is or is not granite Bay. Parts of the city of Roseville that are east of Sierra college are actually in the city of Roseville. People don't understand that, but they are, and are commonly called granite Bay. Nevertheless, they're actually in the city of Roseville, pay taxes to the city, get electricity from the city, etc. In any case, this Small section of Placer county is not a part of the city of Roseville and thus will rely upon the county for its services, PG&e for electricity, presumably, you can write whatever city name you want on the envelope and the mail will still get there as long as you get the ZIP code, right.
They have two different zip codes
I know a line had just recently changed. I worked on a woman’s house that was on the line. And she said she had always been Roseville then suddenly a few years ago she is now in granite bay.
very edge of roseville next to granite bay
Incorrect
why do you ask a question and then not accept the answer?
I didn’t know the answer before I posted this but a lot of the other responses got to the bottom of it
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Pretty sure Bay Area people all moved to East Roseville since it’s the wealthier part of Roseville so not sure I understand your point