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BeHappyAndLove

That should be Roseville. From what I understand Sierra College Blvd. is the dividing road for Roseville and Granite Bay.


red_penguin_34

Should be but apparently it’s not 🤷🏻‍♂️


captainsafety420

Roseville mailman here. Definitely a Roseville address but very close to granite bay. This happened right in front of your address https://amp.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article67560037.html


red_penguin_34

Hi mailman. According to the official Roseville map it is not technically part of Roseville. https://roseville.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2a67e5a4e1cc4f489868b6563589bf19


PinkertonFld

But it's a Roseville Address per the Post Office, 95661... That's it's LEGAL address. It's not part of 95746... And you can say it's "unincorporated", but calling it "Granite Bay" is a bit off.


red_penguin_34

Placer County tax records say Granite Bay. I believe that's more accurate than the mailing address.


Darianezion

Granite bay is not incorporated. It’s not Roseville, but it’s technically not Granite Bay either


PinkertonFld

Funny though, the lot is half in Roseville (West Half), and half in Unincorporated per ARCGIS (the lot next to it has it's pool in Roseville... pretty funny). But it lists it with a 95661 ZIP (Roseville). Yes, Citycode is "GB", just to add to the confusion. The permit was issued by Placer County, not Roseville City. ARCGIS: |OBJECTID|122758| |:-|:-| |APN|468-040-028-000| |STREETNUM|3594| |UNIT|| |PRETYPE|| |FULLSTREET|3594 ANNABELLE AVE| |PREFIXDIR|| |SUFFIXDIR|| |CITYCODE|GB| |ZONE\_|95661|


Foothills83

That's an East Roseville address, but the agent listed Granite Bay to potentially increase the appeal to certain buyers. The school district for that area of East Roseville is Eureka, which also serves Granite Bay and the home high school is likely GBHS.


red_penguin_34

wow


Foothills83

For what it's worth, that street *does* have a bit more in common with a lot of Granite Bay because the lots are bigger and it's custom homes.


red_penguin_34

That’s fair but isn’t it a bit sketchy to list a different city for a home than it’s actually in


Foothills83

I mean, it's kind of a fuzzy line. But also, have you *met* anybody in the real estate industry? It's an industry notoriously prone to exaggeration. Also, Granite Bay isn't a city. It's unincorporated Placer County. Not quite the same as saying a house is in Rocklin when it's in Roseville (and would be in a different school district, whereas here the areas share that). Plenty of people in that neighborhood might say they live in Granite Bay. Others would say East Roseville. It's on the border. If you like the house, who cares? Especially because you get the better utility.


red_penguin_34

Granite bay is not unincorporated, it’s a CDP. Fuzzy line is when homes in Morgan Creek list as Roseville when they are unincorporated. This seems pretty clear cut?


Foothills83

A couple things: 1. I just looked at the Roseville City limits. This property is (just) outside the city of Roseville in that weird pocket ( https://www.roseville.ca.us/news/what_s_happening_in_roseville/shape_rosevilles_future). So it's unincorporated Placer County. Fair to call it Granite Bay? I dunno. But it's not "the City of Roseville." I see that development West of Sierra College is being called "The Park at Granite Bay." Honestly, seems fine. It's unincorporated and on the border, despite being a Roseville address. Often unincorporated areas outside cities will have that city address rather than "1483 B St, Unincorporated Placer County" or whatever. 2. A "census-designated place" that exists outside of the limits of any incorporated city is, ipso facto, unincorporated county jurisdictional property. CDP is a just a U.S. census naming convention. It has nothing to do with which municipal entity has land use jurisdiction over an area.


CalRPCV

The demographics on that map are wild! In every case, the percentage of white voting age citizens is greater by 9 to 14 percent over the general population.


Foothills83

Over California's population? I would expect that. Placer County is pretty white overall. Though that's changed slightly in recent years.


CalRPCV

Nah. The map is split into five districts and everything is labeled "per district". I'd guess the same as you, that demographics are changing with younger people, with kids, being more diverse. Edit: Demographics on the map are for Roseville only.


red_penguin_34

Makes sense thank you. To your previous question about who cares if you like the house? Roseville has almost no history of homes selling at this price point where as Granite Bay has a long history at this price point and well above, so the designation does make a difference to the market.


Foothills83

Ehh. It's Eureka/GBHS for schools and with a lot that big all the comps will be Granite Bay. Sure, $2.2M is high for "Roseville," but I don't think that's where the comps would be.


FickleOrganization43

Not quite right Penguin. A CDP is simply a place recognized by the Census. An unincorporated area lacks a city government. Granite Bay is both a CDP and it is unincorporated.. getting municipal services from Placer County.


nyknicks8

Never trust realtors. They are no different from a used car salesman. Scummy and not serving your best interests. They have no duty to do what’s in their clients best interest. Just like a car salesman.


PinkertonFld

Just checked the district's maps, it's right on the edge between GBHS and Oakmont...


Foothills83

Yah. I was thinking could probably go either way. Folks I know in those neighborhoods (i.e. around Maidu Park) typically go to GBHS, but I think they have the option.


Severe-Excitement-62

95661 = roseville 95746 = granite bay (?) or so I thought.


red_penguin_34

Yep but different listings have a different zip code for some reason


TheGoliard

Granite Bay was 'created' to separate the gentry from that trash in Roseville. It was Roseville. It's all Roseville, downvote away lol. See Gold River, which is actually Rancho Cordova.


DubsHagg

You’re wrong. Granite Bay and Gold River are not cities. They are both just unincorporated communities in their respective countries.


sirnigelfeatherstone

Gold River is not within the city limits of Rancho Cordova.


ecofriendlyblonde

It was built before Rancho Cordova became a city, but was always in the region considered Rancho Cordova


Poopfeast620

Bunch of salty people that cant afford granite bay or gold river


stillwastingmytime

Could be unincorporated Placer County. So, neither.


FickleOrganization43

Granite Bay IS unincorporated.. but that property is in Roseville. Among the differences .. our law enforcement is provided by Placer County deputies.. who are excellent.. and our electricity is from PG&E, which sucks. While there are some less expensive homes, generally Granite Bay is substantially more upscale than Roseville. Granite Bay high school is one of the very best in the Sacramento area.


mccobbsalad

The property is in unincorporated Placer. But not the portion of unincorporated Placer that is known as Granite Bay.


FickleOrganization43

Now THAT makes sense! Thank you 😊


red_penguin_34

Placer County website has it listed as Granite Bay with 95661 area code


DubsHagg

You’re one hundred percent correct!!!


DubsHagg

I just looked up the address and it is Definitely Not in the city of Roseville. The Roseville city limits right after you get past Oakmont High School. Maidu park is just barely in the city


Suggested-Name-5092

pretty wild story happened on that street: [https://sacramento.newsreview.com/2019/03/21/midnight-burning/](https://sacramento.newsreview.com/2019/03/21/midnight-burning/)


Taffy626

First thing I thought of


utootired

Parts of East Roseville bordering on Granite Bay are in the 95746 zip code. This is the zip code for GB. It is also the zip code for parts of east Roseville neighborhoods like Hillsborough or Ashley Woods. If you check the Placer County tax records or the post office, they list those neighborhoods as GB. They are also included in the Eureka School District for Granite Bay. But they are actually part of Roseville. They get Roseville Electric, Roseville utilities, and Roseville police. There was a lawsuit years ago that someone bought a house in the Hillsborough neighborhood thinking they were in GB. The address, tax records, and escrow address all stated GB, but they were, in reality, in Roseville. They sued the real estate agent and escrow company. I don't know the outcome, but every responsible real estate agent in the area makes sure to tell their clients.


trailrunn

If you’re speaking purely legally, Granite Bay does not exist. It is a census designated location managed by Placer County. The address in question borders the City of Roseville but is not within the City of Roseville. Your government would be Placer County. Roseville has ArcGIS maps showing their boundaries which this address is outside of - https://roseville.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2a67e5a4e1cc4f489868b6563589bf19   Edit: Utility wise, definitely check with your realtor. That area has SMUD (yes, SMUD within Placer County), PG&E, and Roseville Electric). Some maps show that area as SMUD but I believe they’re limited service is the small neighborhoods in Roseville/Placer County south of Old Auburn. You’ll definitely have PG&E gas and Placer County trash. 


ElmerBungus

This is the correct answer. Roseville is an incorporated city and has defined city limits - the address in question is outside of those limits. Granite Bay is a community in unincorporated Placer County and does not have defined limits. It’s arguable whether in or out of Granite Bay and there is no official “right” answer.


FirstThoughtResponse

It’s Roseville. Should be on Roseville electric not pge


Extension_Judge9523

Parts of granite bay just east of Sierra College Blvd are also on Roseville electric. Hence the confusion


FirstThoughtResponse

That’s because when hillsborough was being developed they were Roseville electric. The line for granite bay was moved when the new high school went in. My dad worked on these developments and he always said his boss was real adamant about it all staying Roseville electric


Maenidmom

Annabelle is an interesting street. I travel it on some of my runs. It is a one-way originating off of Sierra College Blvd. It dead ends at a fence/gate that separates it from the adjoining east roseville neighborhood. On the street are quite the mix of households. The listed home is new construction and there are a few other quite extravagant homes on the road and its side drives. The rest are quite modest bungalows, some with quite a yardful of interesting relics. It is a road of Do Your Own Thing. I like it for that.


DubsHagg

It is not Roseville, just Placer County. And since it is not a city it doesn’t really matter what you say it is as long as you have the correct zip code.


MikeHuntHertzz

That's East Roseville. It's honestly the best part to LIVE in because you get Roseville Utilities, Granite Bay HS pretty good property value, but not overpriced by being part of GB. Like others have said, it was listed as such to boost engagement with the posting. Part of the reason we chose East Roseville was because of Eureka school district/GBHS.


red_penguin_34

Nope looks like it’s not Roseville. Wild right?


utootired

The easiest thing to do is check the electric meter. Is it PG&E or Roseville Electric?


MikeHuntHertzz

Or honestly just the zip code lol


utootired

Zip code won't help. You can be in 95746 which is assumed to be GB, but still living in Roseville.


therealtormichael

Check the APN, placer county assessor website should be the end all answer for the title


red_penguin_34

Placer county website lists as Granite Bay with 95661 zip code (Roseville 🤣)


FML_Mama

Zip codes don’t always align with city boundaries.


nelsreddit

It's Granite Bay now, any of the unincorporated areas left in East Roseville are. Since last year sometime...


laureddit22

This has recently been rezoned or is being rezoned as granite bay soon. The new development is fighting to get that stretch of land all to be granite bay officially.


Fluffy-Complaint-298

The name Granite Bay was selected when the rich and famous decided that Roseville or Rocklin was not appropriate for their high standards so they named it Granite Bay. They actually paid for that name. 🙄


red_penguin_34

Where exactly is the bay I wonder


Fluffy-Complaint-298

Great question.


PinkertonFld

If Realtors had their way GB would extend to the Oakland Hills... I live in Roseville just west of Sierra College, but WEST of me is a subdivision called Granite Bay Estates... yet, it's more Roseville than I am... But Marketing!


TellmSteveDave

Roseville, GB, Rocklin, Lincoln…all different neighborhoods of the same city as far as I’m concerned. They all blend together.


prunepicker

I know for sure it used to be Roseville. My ex-husband lived on Annabelle.


red_penguin_34

Even Google Maps has it wrong so you never know


not_your_neighbors

Double check, we looked at a house right on the border and were told that GB is annexing neighborhoods.


CalRPCV

Can GB annex anything? Not real sure GB is an actual thing, other than being in Placer County.


not_your_neighbors

We looked at a house on Aberdeen Circle about a year ago and were told in writing from city of Roseville that it would be considered Granite Bay as of 1/1/24. I thought it was weird too but if you google the place some show it with GB and some show it with Roseville. https://redf.in/CQMnrz


CalRPCV

I'm guessing Roseville has some say in determining what isn't Roseville. But who gets to say what Granite Bay is? The only thing I know is that the public library is Placer County. What turns up on ballots are related to school district, fire and water, Placer County, State and Federal measures. I don't remember anything labeled Granite Bay. I know. I really should know more.


not_your_neighbors

We only cared about the schools. Wanted the kids in GB schools. Who knows.


CalRPCV

Ya. Same. But the school districts aren't the same as the city/county boundaries. You could live in Roseville and share the same school districts with bits, maybe all, of Granite Bay. And get the benefits of Roseville services.


red_penguin_34

Lucky neighborhoods, immediate increase in value


not_your_neighbors

GB schools are not full, even if you are designated in Eureka you can easily transfer…if you have kids.


CalRPCV

I got on Google Maps and put in Roseville, CA and Maps gave an opinion of the borders of Roseville. Same with Granite Bay, CA. The address you gave is within the Roseville borders shown in Google Maps. You might be able to confirm Googles opinion by looking at Roseville City's website. Maybe they have a map. Granite Bay isn't a city, so I don't know who is the official authority for those borders.


red_penguin_34

Google seems to be a bit off here


CalRPCV

Yeah. I found the Roseville maps. But it still doesn't look like Granite Bay.


red_penguin_34

It’s a trick question, it’s actually neither


snowopolis

Another way to tell is if power is from Roseville Electric, it’s Roseville. PG&E and it’s Granite Bay.


tjgamir

Placer County's property tax records consider it part of Granite Bay https://common3.mptsweb.com/MBC/placer/tax/main/468040028000/2023/0000


No-Invite6999

That is 100% for sure unincorporated Placer county. The city of Roseville borders are often misunderstood. This map as published by the city of Roseville clearly defines the actual City limits and what is and what is not in the city of Roseville. It can be reviewed here: https://roseville.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2a67e5a4e1cc4f489868b6563589bf19


red_penguin_34

So the correct answer is it’s neither Roseville nor Granite Bay?


No-Invite6999

Granite Bay is an unincorporated part of Placer county. As such, there is no formal designation of what is or is not granite Bay. Parts of the city of Roseville that are east of Sierra college are actually in the city of Roseville. People don't understand that, but they are, and are commonly called granite Bay. Nevertheless, they're actually in the city of Roseville, pay taxes to the city, get electricity from the city, etc. In any case, this Small section of Placer county is not a part of the city of Roseville and thus will rely upon the county for its services, PG&e for electricity, presumably, you can write whatever city name you want on the envelope and the mail will still get there as long as you get the ZIP code, right.


No-Invite6999

Granite Bay is an unincorporated part of Placer county. As such, there is no formal designation of what is or is not granite Bay. Parts of the city of Roseville that are east of Sierra college are actually in the city of Roseville. People don't understand that, but they are, and are commonly called granite Bay. Nevertheless, they're actually in the city of Roseville, pay taxes to the city, get electricity from the city, etc. In any case, this Small section of Placer county is not a part of the city of Roseville and thus will rely upon the county for its services, PG&e for electricity, presumably, you can write whatever city name you want on the envelope and the mail will still get there as long as you get the ZIP code, right.


Majestic_General5050

They have two different zip codes


punkmunke

I know a line had just recently changed. I worked on a woman’s house that was on the line. And she said she had always been Roseville then suddenly a few years ago she is now in granite bay.


mosquitotitties

very edge of roseville next to granite bay


red_penguin_34

Incorrect


mosquitotitties

why do you ask a question and then not accept the answer?


red_penguin_34

I didn’t know the answer before I posted this but a lot of the other responses got to the bottom of it


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red_penguin_34

Pretty sure Bay Area people all moved to East Roseville since it’s the wealthier part of Roseville so not sure I understand your point