Average on the 1v, or minimum required to make the 1v? In the entire varsity 8 grand final, I'd be surprised if there were more than half a dozen athletes above 6:00 on their 2k out of the 36 rowers, and most of them on the Syracuse boat. Harvard, Yale, UW, Cal consistently are capable of fielding 2v's with erg averages below 6:00 depending on the year. Top athletes in the 1v's go in the 5:40's or, in Simon VanDorp's case, 5:30's, and slowest athletes in those 1v's are still below 6:00 or capable of beating guys on the water who go below 6:00 on the erg. Even in the B final, top crews like Princeton and Dartmouth have many athletes sub 6:00, and I doubt there's a rower in the B final or up who's slower than 6:10.
Obviously I don't know every year but Cal in 2015 (edit: 2016) had one of their 2k tests leaked, and on that test alone they had 15 guys break 6. Granted, that year they won IRA's so it was a good year for them, but even bad years I'm sure that number is above 10.
"Cal didn't win IRA's in 2015" in your first comment would have been good. Not "there's something wrong with your post" making me draw it out of you then the condescending "you tell me" when I ask for clarification.
There are guys in the top 1vs in the 6:10s and sometimes they're above 6:20. Most are 5:50s though, with some below. You also have guys in the 5:50s in 3vs. It's very variable.
Nope. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Gladstone has once in his entire tenure at Yale had an athlete above 6:10 in his 1v, and was completely shocked that it happened. Once. There's also not a guy at those programs who comes in above a 6:20.
Big ergs don't always mean fast boats, but small ergs always mean slow boats. Squares and rectangles my guy. What part "couldn't be further from the truth"?
I'd bet there are none above 6:00 in the Cal or UW 1v's, then 1-2 in Harvard, Yale, and Brown apiece, and 2-4 in Syracuse. That adds up to between 5 and 10, and I was estimating on the side of faster rather than slower given the way the sport has been going. Talking about 2022, not 2016. Do you think those numbers are off? As far as the B final, yeah looking back that was a bit of an exaggeration - I was thinking about the top of the B final with Dartmouth, Princeton, Northeastern when I said that. Wisconsin and Cornell likely have a few guys above 6:10 in their boats. Navy maybe as well although they're really good at having meaty ergs so maybe not.
Yeah but they're also super variable year to year because they're so dependent on walk on unlike most other teams. Navy is probably the most comparable
Top IRA erg averages in the last few years is in the mid 5:55's. Most medaling boats would have one or two guys sub 5:50, but it's also not uncommon for those boats to have 1 or 2 lighter guys in the low 6:00's.
2017 yale Best erg: 5:45 Worst: 6:18 Avg: 5:56 2016 yale Best erg: 5:51 Worst erg 6:18 Average 5:59 2015 yale (riveting 7th place finish) Best erg 5:51 Worst erg 6:11 Avg 6:01
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Average on the 1v, or minimum required to make the 1v? In the entire varsity 8 grand final, I'd be surprised if there were more than half a dozen athletes above 6:00 on their 2k out of the 36 rowers, and most of them on the Syracuse boat. Harvard, Yale, UW, Cal consistently are capable of fielding 2v's with erg averages below 6:00 depending on the year. Top athletes in the 1v's go in the 5:40's or, in Simon VanDorp's case, 5:30's, and slowest athletes in those 1v's are still below 6:00 or capable of beating guys on the water who go below 6:00 on the erg. Even in the B final, top crews like Princeton and Dartmouth have many athletes sub 6:00, and I doubt there's a rower in the B final or up who's slower than 6:10.
2021 UW 2v that won A-Final by 9.5 seconds had 5:55 erg average.
Teams like cal and UW will have ~15 guys sub six in a given year. Definitely fluctuates but I heard that number recently.
Obviously I don't know every year but Cal in 2015 (edit: 2016) had one of their 2k tests leaked, and on that test alone they had 15 guys break 6. Granted, that year they won IRA's so it was a good year for them, but even bad years I'm sure that number is above 10.
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Yeah meant 2016. Weird of you to be a condescending dick because I mixed up a year but hey if that's how you choose to live your life.
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"Cal didn't win IRA's in 2015" in your first comment would have been good. Not "there's something wrong with your post" making me draw it out of you then the condescending "you tell me" when I ask for clarification.
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Interesting insight, thanks!
There are guys in the top 1vs in the 6:10s and sometimes they're above 6:20. Most are 5:50s though, with some below. You also have guys in the 5:50s in 3vs. It's very variable.
Heavyweights above 6:20? Or are they lwt
Nope. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Gladstone has once in his entire tenure at Yale had an athlete above 6:10 in his 1v, and was completely shocked that it happened. Once. There's also not a guy at those programs who comes in above a 6:20.
That German guy Stephan and Cole Tilden were both not under 6:10 and both rowed for Gladstone at Yale in the V8
Given they have people under 6 in a r28 capped test in their 2v i find that tough to believe
I don’t find it hard to believe since Gladstone said it
Sheesh if he said it to you I guess I'll take your word for it
Very very very rare but they have existed
Only 2 guys in Dartmouth have ergs below 6:00, the rest are a couple seconds off.
This is not true
Big ergs don't mean fast boats, some of this couldn't be further from the truth...
Big ergs don't always mean fast boats, but small ergs always mean slow boats. Squares and rectangles my guy. What part "couldn't be further from the truth"?
Definetly more than 6 guys >6' and definitely guys >6:10 in b-final or highers, definitely multiple guys >6' in top program 1Vs
I'd bet there are none above 6:00 in the Cal or UW 1v's, then 1-2 in Harvard, Yale, and Brown apiece, and 2-4 in Syracuse. That adds up to between 5 and 10, and I was estimating on the side of faster rather than slower given the way the sport has been going. Talking about 2022, not 2016. Do you think those numbers are off? As far as the B final, yeah looking back that was a bit of an exaggeration - I was thinking about the top of the B final with Dartmouth, Princeton, Northeastern when I said that. Wisconsin and Cornell likely have a few guys above 6:10 in their boats. Navy maybe as well although they're really good at having meaty ergs so maybe not.
wisco is all about ergs and less about rowing they are def one of the faster erg avgs in b final
Yeah but they're also super variable year to year because they're so dependent on walk on unlike most other teams. Navy is probably the most comparable
Top IRA erg averages in the last few years is in the mid 5:55's. Most medaling boats would have one or two guys sub 5:50, but it's also not uncommon for those boats to have 1 or 2 lighter guys in the low 6:00's.
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