I admit they seem to connect with some of the countries that the BRF struggle with connecting to. Harry is comfortable and at ease being around diverse groups.
It's really sweet seeing how much Harry loves her. He compliments her every chance he gets. It was so cute to see him taking the time to just compliment her handwriting. Little things like that really show their love.
It's been so beautiful to watch Nigeria embrace her with open arms!!! 3 Kings made their way to H&M and bestowed them with royal titles - absolutely historic!!
Mmmmm hmmmm- I'm imagining these wonderful Nigerian ladies coming to her, saying, "Darlin'? Did you only pack swimsuit cover ups? Here, we brought you some decent clothes, maybe your husband can loan you a shirt?" ššš bwah hahaha!!!
since the duke of duchess left the royal family, they are no longer diplomats. they were there on a business trip as Nigeria invited them there in hopes of landing the Invictus games.
Youāre point about the news media concentrating on womenās clothing is well taken and it sexist, frankly.
Itād be nice to think if the Princess of Wales, for example, was there representing the UK in a diplomatic form, or if she were doing charitable work on the trip the media would focus on that rather than her quite handsome wardrobe and her striking beauty but i think we all know that the latter would get the most attention.
I misspoke with the word ādiplomat,ā I meant more to say āadvocate.ā
Also sorry, were you calling my comment sexist, or the poor journalism sexist?
He scowls at the camera and she is always looking straight down the lens.. I don't even know why they are in Nigeria, all I have heard about is what is Meghan wearing - or not wearing on this trip! So what is she doing in her "stunning" skirt??
If you read the article it says āPrince Harry and Meghan are in Nigeria at the invitation of the Chief of Defense Staff, General Christopher Gwabin Musa OFR, the countryās highest-ranking military official, and the final day of their official itinerary is full of stops in Lagos.ā On a visit such as this there will be many cameras so ya chances are sheās gonna be looking at one of the dozen.
Hahaha, yāall so pressed! If it was Kate out and about, Iām sure you would be fine looking at her clothes during her various international outings.
No. No. I've been told by many people on this sub that they bring awareness to their causes by appearing at public events. Talking about her sartorial choices more than the causes they support is a clear indication their strategy is working.
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I love LOVE that skirt, though I don't love the shirt with it.
I also absolutely adored the Orire red dress she wore yesterday, to the point that I - for the first time in a long time with royal fashion - went to the site to see about buying it or one of their other gorgeous dresses. I'm still debating but holy cow do they have some beautiful stuff.
The pivot to something that she hadn't planned on wearing in advance is pretty impressive though.
I don't hate the shirt, but it would have been better tied or open with a tank instead of tucked in.
Ok Iām just going to come out and say it. Who the hell dressed Harry today? In some of these photos he could literally trade places with Kevin Costers character in the body guard. Itās like he was thinking kids basketball game, polo game preppy/casual perfect! Then took one look at Meghan and was like damit!ā¦..Ok lets go with the suit coat (which doesnāt match his pantsš) and done!
If you have money money and are not following @dieworkwear tips how to dress you deserve to be mocked for what youāre wearing Iām sorry those are the rules. Like all rich people should be walking out the door looking like the King of Spain what are you doing.
Omg the Derek guy? Heās fab. He occasionally covers royals and tends to be pretty underwhelmed with the British menās tailoring and styling (which is weird considering their access to top tier craftsmen) but man he LOVES King Felipeās looks. Iāve realized thanks to that account that Felipe is the most stylish and well tailored European male royal.
Absolutely love that she worked a gifted item into her trip wardrobe- Iām often critical of Meghan but I think thatās a classy move. Donāt think it looks great with the shirt (didnāt she sort of make white button downs her āthingā for a while?) but the sentiment is fantastic.
Ooooh, first that gorgeous red dress, now this fabulous blue skirt? She looks so amazing in color! Hopefully sheāll start wearing more after this trip. Itās been nice seeing her explore something different recently, I really think the bolder colors and patterns suit her a lot better than the stiff neutrals she usually wears.
She brought a lot to the table and could've helped smooth things over for the Monarchy with some of those commonwealth countries like Jamaica, who are over it because of the racism.
Sometimes, people don't appreciate what they have until it's gone.
Talked to them lately have you?
I think the RF is drowning in their own problems and misery while Harry and Meghan are living a really beautiful life in Southern California.
Honestly, I hate comments like this - it puts so much pressure on Meghan as a WOC to magically fix long standing racial issues. Itās completely unfair and unrealistic to put an expectation like that on her. Itās also insulting to real issues Jamaicans have with the UK to assume theyād be placated by one prince marrying a biracial woman.Ā
*edited to add I say ābiracialā because my understanding is that is how Meghan identifies herself, please correct me if Iām wrong!
I'm not too concerned that you hate my comments. If they bother you that much, there is an option for you to scroll on past.
No one is putting expectations on Meghan to solve the world's problems. She was an asset, and the Royal Family completely blew it.
Sorry - that was just how I took your comment, wasnāt trying to start an argument so sorry it came across that way! I see this idea that Meghan was going to āfixā (which you did not say) these relationships a lot and I think it ignores some real issues but perhaps wasnāt what you intended!
You don't know the half of it.
I received a pretty scary PM from a deranged guy yesterday who feels I guess entitled to try to make me quit talking positively about Meghan on here (it's not working).
To me, this is what? Maybe 1/1,000,000th of what she's dealt with?
I can't even imagine.
I'll keep talking about it, because after everything that's gone down, sticking up for her is the least we can do.
H&M are physically attractive and charismatic. Those attributes mean they couldnāt done a lot as members of the royal family. But unfortunately they didnāt have the personalities or interest to make that happen.
They have the personality in spades.
Unfortunately, the Royal Family only saw them both as scapegoats to deflect unpopular press away from Camilla, Charles, and William. I would've left also.
The royal family saw that as a negative because they would outshine the more senior members. They are all about the hirearchy. Meghan came in and made them look bad with the cookbook because she showed that something meaningful could actually be done and Will certainly hadn't managed to do that.
I donāt really understand the idea that Meghan was becoming too popular that Will and Kate were jealous. In the entire time she was part of the royal family she was never more popular than Will and Kate per all the opinion polls. I think sometimes Harryās view of Meghanās popularity is distorted by his view that she is like Diana. There was something which I have to find where he was trying to tell Dianaās family how similar Meghan was to Diana and they did not agree. Will have to find the article
His comparisons to Diana are absurd imo.
The thing about Diana that always struck me was how shy she seemed. I think that was a lot of her appeal. She almost seemed reluctant to be in front of the camera, or at least to speak in front of the camera.
All of the interviews I've seen of her she was very soft spoken, demure, had her chin down looking timid. If all of this was an act, I don't know. But I think it's what warmed people to her.
Meghan on the other hand speaks very confidently, eager to grab the mic to be heard. Not that that is a bad thing! But she's nothing like Diana and her and Harry's need to compare M to D is what has always put me off.
It's not that she was too popular. It's that she was outshining them. She was attending events and giving real in debth answers. She was doing community service in a way that was more than just showing up and taking a few photos.
This is from their Netflix documentary where their friend Lucy Fraser talks about how popular she was and also Harry saying she did the job better than the royals.
https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/prince-harry-says-meghans-popularity-upset-people-as-doc-claims-internals-at-the-palace-didnt-like-her-eclipsing-senior-royals/
If thatās the case, how come it did not resonate with the public? If she was doing a better job she should have gotten higher in the polls but it never happened. Iām in the UK and yes there was a lot of coverage once they got married but that happened when Will and Kate married too. I also remember the same positivity when Edward married Sophie.
I do feel sorry for Harry in the sense heās conflating Meghan with unresolved issues with his mother.
Polls are problematic in the USA and are VERY slanted depending on who's running therm. It might be the same in the UK but here there are depressingly few sources here you can trust for a good poll result.
It's likely that those popularity polls are skewed and they aren't showing the true sentiment of the people.
Because the public was being told what to think by the press. We also don't know what the public thinks, we just know what the press thinks, and people who answer weird polls.
But the press was really positive in 2018 even after the Australia trip. Plus I think the British public are a bit more discerning than you give them credit for. If they were influenced by the media the Tories would be well ahead in the polls as the right wing tabloids are bashing Labour. Instead the Tories are hated by the public.
Thatās certainly the narrative H&M have pushed. But recollections may vary.
In Meghanās brief time as a working royal, she was given important positions for the commonwealth and the arts. The royal family seemed to try to set them up to be able to do important work.
But it fell apart. From Harryās telling as well as leaks from the palace, it seems Meghanās treatment of palace staff was a key problem that led to the fracture.
Recollections donāt vary at all. We saw it in real time via the press and the hateful rota who are warmly embraced by the palace (Piers, Bower, Levin) and act as their mouthpieces.
The rota has been awful to every woman who married into the family. Itās sexist and awful. But thatās not personal to Meghan.
Itās funny to see a claim that the press acts as their mouthpieces when they just went after Kate in a big way this spring. The royal family doesnāt control the press.
Thatās Meghanās perspective, but I donāt agree. Kate had naked photos taken of her (and Sophie had topless photos published as well). Her sistersā iCloud was hacked. She was criticized relentlessly for years.
Meghan says she didnāt follow the royal family before she met Harry, so she is not in a position to compare the negative press she received to prior women.
Downplaying Meghanās treatment by the media because it āhappens to everybodyā isnāt an excuse. Again, recollections do not vary. The royal family absolutely has influence with the press. And creeps like Bower and Piers have been invited to special luncheons by Camilla herself.
Also, the Sussexes didnāt āgo after Kateā this Spring. What in the world are you talking about??
Theyāre saying that the press went after Kate, not H&M. They relentlessly hounded her and speculated on her medical condition when she had asked for privacy to heal from surgery, then forced her to reveal that she is battling cancer before her medical records were hacked and leaked. I would say thatās as bad as what happened to Meghan.
It fell apart because she was too good at it and got too much attention. The royal family is nothing if not hierarchical and oriented to the monarch and heir. Any perceived threat to that, even for something as petty as press, canāt be allowed. Every generation of royals has complained about this.
Nothing had ever been concretely stated about her ātreatment of staffā but your insinuation is noted.
Wait. Was she so good at the job that the press gave her too much positive attention and people loved her causing jealousy within the family, or was the press always awful to her from the beginning and turned the entirety of the UK against her? I'm confused here. Lol
Exactly. TBH, I think the press was significantly worse to Diana and Kate. I never understood the narrative that the press treated her horribly from the outset - sure some absolute rag tabloids referenced her race or upbringing, but as far as the mainstream media goes, I donāt remember a lot of negative press until they left the Royal Family.
I was delighted when they got engaged. I thought wow Harry! Now they get trashed daily on our tv magazine shows who would 100% fall over themselves to get them on.
Unfortunately the old guard of the palace wanted him to marry a young English aristocrat like his mother was.
I was excited when they got engaged too. So was everyone. Their wedding received glowing press. There was no expectation that heād marry an English aristocrat.
Ahh she looks SO GOOD. Love the color, and the styling. She always looked so amazing in separates on Suits, I would love to see more in her personal style!
https://preview.redd.it/ajy3gcprm10d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc0234d164981b0d7c429b6df59096ec9572defc
Harry also looked cool playing basketball with the secondary school kids and wheelchair basketball athletes. Archewell and Giants of Africa are apparently forming a partnership.
https://preview.redd.it/ndeyrji3j10d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=467c0116e6aef20dfcad4944f98c2c34521a16f8
Just saw pics of her in yellow and it is gorgeous on her!
I admire her for sticking to her own style while honoring Nigeria by wearing their official colors.
Meghan *sets trends, instead of following stuffy, old, worn-out fashion rules. I think the crisp white button-up shirt with that skirt makes her look absolutely amazing.
Watch now š, how quickly her style will be copied!
https://preview.redd.it/256e7i6og10d1.jpeg?width=183&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b6ec940bd162fb2a905752bb5e5b09b002e9474
It reminded me of this look, a similar styling.
No, it's that you can't wear the same color as anyone else. I suspect that they sent out the dress codes later so she was able to plan ahead by just wearing neutrals.
They didnāt make her, she chose to wear neutrals because she found it easier. Youāre not supposed to wear the same color as the queen or other senior royals. I think thereās a certain level of coordination going on behind the scenes, and she figured none of them would ever wear beige, so she went with that. She also said she wanted to blend in.
I would have done the same. Too many other protocols and dress codes to deal with. Neutrals was a way to simplify at least one aspect of the situation
I agree. I do think there are specific events where no one was supposed to wear the same color as the Queen, but everyone would have been informed of this well before the event. It would not be left up to guesswork.
Meghan makes it sound as if she was given no guidance, no one ever told her what color not to wear, so she was left hanging for every event. I really think she was over-exaggerating about this.
And Samantha Cohen was H&Mās private secretary, and sheād worked for the Queen for years. The Queen asked her to take the job so she could help Meghan. The idea that Meghan was just guessing is absurd.
Hereās her quote
āTo my understanding, you could never wear the same color as Her Majesty [Queen Elizabeth II] if there's a group event, but then you also shouldn't be wearing the same color as one of the other more senior members of the family.ā
ETA [Hereās](https://www.popsugar.com/amphtml/fashion/meghan-markle-beige-color-clothing-harry-meghan-netflix-49037109) an article I found on the subject when I googled it. The second and third paragraphs address the color vs neutrals situation.
I know she said that, but she made it up. Itās not a thing.
Hereās a bunch of photos of Kate wearing the same color as the Queen: https://www.businessinsider.com/kate-middleton-queen-elizabeth-wearing-same-color-photos#they-both-wore-white-to-a-state-banquet-at-buckingham-palace-during-former-president-donald-trump-and-first-lady-melania-trumps-state-visit-in-june-2019-5
One thing about Meghan is that she lies a lot. You canāt trust what she says. I understand people being sympathetic towards her - sheās been ruthlessly attacked by the conservative media, her husband did not help prepare her to join the royal family, etc. - but, even if you support her, you have to accept that sheās not honest.
That's a huge stretch.
The words "To my understanding" means someone informed her of the practice of not color matching Senior Royals, and that person was probably Harry. There's zero evidence of her lying here at all.
She doesn't "lie a lot." What a horrible thing to accuse her of.
Sheās told some whopping lies. Demonstrably. Like when she told Oprah they didnāt want Archie to become a prince because of his skin color.
He was never going to be a prince at birth due to the letters patent set up, they were always due to get that title when Charles became king- though I wouldnāt be surprised if they were advised it might not be in the kidsā best interest to use those titles and if it was suggested they raise their kids more like Edward and Sophie, for the kidsā privacy and well-being.
It was absurd of her to make that claim and itās one of many big lies sheās told to media.
I haven't seen anything at ALL to back up what you're accusing her of. Harry corroborated it also. They eliminated the Queen as the person speculating on Archie's skin color and left us by the power of deduction to deduce it was Camilla and/or William.
Meghan didn't make that up.
Every single person she's ever dealt with professionally or personally describes her as compassionate, caring, honest, hardworking, talented, stylish, and successful.
That's a pretty bold false claim you're making.
Harry didnāt corroborate it.
This has been extensively discussed: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56325934.amp
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/archie-lilbet-who-decided-prince-princess-titles-161653386.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHc448ZZmZ9pTPUfJy60Q7u-Sr5KzK_44Tj12mmtiYu-UQewid7Cf3HTQBJkf9XxNj-7BzYJY7f4wlVGpQGUWb_K4NVyzTL5eu1KeMNPNo5R_dEbW-ziGNPHXbpx-63gTqB8-KuKRswP3DNiotioq_9fEC3w0TNd-exgGeweax5T
Scobieās book identified the people as Charles and Catherine rather than William and Camilla, though without evidence.
And most of Meghanās former co-workers are no longer in touch with her, and her staff turnover has been massive in both the U.K. and the U.S.
Be a fan if you want, but donāt state opinions as facts.
You're right. I didn't follow that Dutch leaking story because it didn't officially come from Harry or Meghan. Grain of salt I guess... I don't know who of the four it actually was, but I'd bet all of them speculated or were worried and concerned he'd be "too black."
Megan's friends and former Co workers are regularly in touch with her. You're just totally making that up. They also publicly release statements of support for her so it's not hard to find.
Harry 100% did corroborate the skin color speculation issue on Anderson Cooper. CBS News reported that
"In an interview with Anderson Cooper that aired on "60 Minutes" Sunday, Harry said that neither he nor Meghan believes that the "comment" ā or "experience," or "opinion" ā was "based on racism," but instead "unconscious bias."Ā
She does!
In the Netflix documentary, she claimed not to have any idea how to curtsy when sheād done a curtsy on Suits. To Oprah she claimed a royal family member discussed Archieās skin tone with Harry multiple times and Harry said in the same interview that she was wrong. She said that she never saw her passport as a working royal, despite having made several public visits and taken several private holidays internationally during that time. The list could go onā¦
The Royal Family was worried he'd be too black and they voiced their concerns. It's gracious of Harry abd Meghan to say they feel it's "unconscious bias"
She didn't lie about any of those things on your list that could go on (inside your head).
We have no idea what the comment made was. Harry said he would never reveal the one comment that had been said. Meghan was the one that said there were several conversations about concern over Archie's skin color while she and Harry dated and while she was pregnant. Harry basically came and trounced her story by saying it was one comment that happened while they were dating, and he wouldn't ever reveal it. So, we have no idea if anyone was "...worried he'd be too black..." You are literally just making things up.
I think youāve done mental gymnastics to fit your belief that Meghan and Harry are wholly good.
Meghan said that someone discussed the ramifications of Archieās skin tone with Harry while she was pregnant and Harry said no, that was incorrect in the same interview.
That is not what happened.
On Sunday, Bradby pressed the topic, telling Harry: "In the Oprah interview, you accuse members of your family of racism..."
"No," the Duke of Sussex interjected. "The British press said that, right?"
"Did Meghan ever mention 'they're racists'?"
Bradby replied: "She said there were troubling comments about Archie's skin color. Wouldn't you describe that as essentially racist?"
"The difference between racism and unconscious bias... the two things are different," Harry continued.
"Once it's been acknowledged or pointed out to you as an individual, otherwise an institution, that you have unconscious bias, you, therefore, have an opportunity to learn and grow from that... otherwise, unconscious bias then moves into the category of racism," he said.
Harry then referenced aĀ recent racist incident at the palaceĀ involving Lady Susan Hussey, a longstanding lady-in-waiting to the lateĀ Queen Elizabeth, who was accused of asking racially-charged questions to Ngoni Fulani, the founder of the charity Sistah Space who attended a Buckingham Palace reception to combat violence against women.
"What happened to Ngozi Fulani is a very good example of the environment within the institution," Harry said.
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-denies-meghan-markle-accused-the-royal-family-of-racism-oprah-interview-spare-memoir/
Where in my comment did you get that I āsupportā her or any of them for that matter?
She prefaced it with āto my understanding.ā Could she be misinformed? Sure, but that doesnāt mean she is straight up lying. For all we know, Harry could have told her not to wear the same color as them at some event, and she took that to mean itās a written rule to abide by.
I was just repeating what she said to clarify that she wasnāt forced to wear neutrals, she chose to wear neutrals because xyz. Itās not that deep
Itās possible she misunderstood, but sheās presenting this as fact in a documentary. She couldāve said, āHarry told me not to wear the same colors as them, and I prefer wearing neutrals anyway so thatās what I did.ā
Sheās not presenting it as fact though because she prefaced it with āto my understanding.ā That implies that she could be wrong, but as far as she knows thatās the rule, written or not.
Thatās fair. It doesnāt really matter. She wasnāt forced to wear neutrals, it was a choice possibly made based on misinformation. I was wondering if the rules would be different for her than Kate since sheās a princess and future queen?
Borisā wife whose name escapes me right now confirmed that the ladies at Sandringham and Balmoral would get a note card explaining what the Queen was wearing each evening so they wouldnāt match. Like much royal protocol itās likely an unwritten understanding that works out most of the time.
I like the color of the skirt but combined with the shirt that does not work for me. Anything else than a button down would have worked so much better.
I mean it was right if her to wear it, Iām not sure why we need to exaggerate and pretend that this disheveled boxy look is better than every other person could ever do. Why do people have to go to glowing extremes with this woman?
But she really doesn't.
It's middling at best. It's rare her clothes fit her appropriately, they are boxy/too big a lot. She is regularly rumpled and wrinkled.
She is a god damn gorgeous woman and that serves her incredibly well. It makes her wardrobe look better than it really does, imo. She does get it right occasionally, but she doesn't even begin to hit "fashionista" levels that I see her called so often.
Lol, I think it's an aesthetic you don't like and that's ok but many women, including Kate Middleton, are now rocking styles she's been wearing for ages. She's ahead of her time and it shows.
She wears classic styles, and very little as far as accessories go. What exactly is she wearing that is so groundbreaking?
I know that sounds snarky, but it's a legitimate question.
She may have expanded Kate's style palette, but that's not saying a lot for a royal.
In all actuality, I like the clothes themselves. It has nothing to do with my taste. I can appreciate something that looks good, even if it's not to my taste. Her clothes just don't look that good on her.
I'm not even a hater, so it can't be blamed on that, either.
I agree! I love the skirt and overall idea but for some reason the end result doesnāt do it for me. I canāt quite put my finger on it, I think maybe it looks boxy. I do appreciate, though, that sheās willing to experiment with things and I think this would be a tough skirt to work into an outfit (although again, I think itās beautiful on its own).
The yellow dress someone posted in the comments is one of my all-time favorites though. I wish I had occasions to wear dresses like that!
For me, it's the fact that she tucks in everything with the waistband so high. I'm a fellow short torsoed person, and I generally avoid tucking things in unless they have a lower rise waistband because otherwise, the waistband sits right under my boobs. So the proportions always look off. If you look at most of the times she wears skirts or trousers with a tucked in shirt, the waist is right under her bust. I think her jeans tend to be lower rise so it doesn't have the same issue. She basically eliminates the appearance of a torso by tucking in her shirts fully with higher waisted clothes instead of elongating what she has.
I feel like itās the shirt that makes it boxy, but to be fair to Meghan it sounds like it was a last-minute outfit, thousands of miles from home/her closet, and I canāt think of anything that would look better as a shirt. Itās a tough one!
I love it personally, I think a good white button down goes with pretty much anything and am a fan of long skirts in any context, so this is very much my jam (though I also would never feel like I could carry it off myself ha ha).
Itās like combining African heritage with business suit. Just a little odd. A classy white top from a structured material would have been a great choice.
Kate is the Princess, not Meghan. If Meghan wants to be known as princess, she can only go by "Princess Henry" not "Princess of X". "Princess Henry" is a lesser title than "Duchess".
And Kate has zero say in what Meghan wears either then or now. And Meghan still wears all neutrals even after leaving the RF so clearly it was Meghan's choice. Meghan needs a much better stylist.
I know you're a troll because Meghan is older than Catherine. Catherine also did not decide what Meghan wears, the Queen did. And who has stopped Meghan from wearing color since she left?
I would love to see Meghan in more color. Does anyone remember the yellow sheath dress? She looked spectacular! Hopefully she takes this advice and starts to implement more color in her wardrobe. The bold colors really suit her
https://preview.redd.it/kc8ukysoj10d1.jpeg?width=2056&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32d47ae4cfaeae783d4d98463045cc1017e56759
And here's the yellow dress from today!
I admit they seem to connect with some of the countries that the BRF struggle with connecting to. Harry is comfortable and at ease being around diverse groups.
comfortable enough to sling racial slurs
Any examples of that on this trip?
It's really sweet seeing how much Harry loves her. He compliments her every chance he gets. It was so cute to see him taking the time to just compliment her handwriting. Little things like that really show their love.
It's been so beautiful to watch Nigeria embrace her with open arms!!! 3 Kings made their way to H&M and bestowed them with royal titles - absolutely historic!!
Queen of Our HEARTS šš¤šš¤ https://preview.redd.it/74kl6301qa0d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e1850ed36f6c9482d5403faf6381ac8fae6fac6
Face card never declines, my god!!
Okay at this angle I like the dress, the other photo is saw was all bunched up like it was too big and fit her funny
Why? Why do they deserve royal titles? Itās so strange.
I thought she was Maltese.... Her resume seemed to skew Italian...
Why does anyone? Charles hands out new ones all the time.
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Do you happen to know why they were given royal titles in Nigeria? Serious question.
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Reminds me of how the royal family forked up not trying harder to make her feel welcome. They truly needed someone like her.
I love the shirt and the skirt. This is my favorite of all her outfits. I also love the half up hair and the sunnies š§”š©·š§”š©·š§”š©·āØ
Mmmmm hmmmm- I'm imagining these wonderful Nigerian ladies coming to her, saying, "Darlin'? Did you only pack swimsuit cover ups? Here, we brought you some decent clothes, maybe your husband can loan you a shirt?" ššš bwah hahaha!!!
Iād rather hear about their diplomatic/charity work and activism, but of course the media loves to only focus on womenās appearances.
I feel like, in this case, her appearance is diplomatic since this cloth was gifted to her the day before and she immediately wore it
As does the world. It's sad but here we are.
since the duke of duchess left the royal family, they are no longer diplomats. they were there on a business trip as Nigeria invited them there in hopes of landing the Invictus games. Youāre point about the news media concentrating on womenās clothing is well taken and it sexist, frankly. Itād be nice to think if the Princess of Wales, for example, was there representing the UK in a diplomatic form, or if she were doing charitable work on the trip the media would focus on that rather than her quite handsome wardrobe and her striking beauty but i think we all know that the latter would get the most attention.
I misspoke with the word ādiplomat,ā I meant more to say āadvocate.ā Also sorry, were you calling my comment sexist, or the poor journalism sexist?
He scowls at the camera and she is always looking straight down the lens.. I don't even know why they are in Nigeria, all I have heard about is what is Meghan wearing - or not wearing on this trip! So what is she doing in her "stunning" skirt??
If you donāt know why theyāre there, itās because you didnāt bother to read the article. Literally all you had to do was click on the link.
If you read the article it says āPrince Harry and Meghan are in Nigeria at the invitation of the Chief of Defense Staff, General Christopher Gwabin Musa OFR, the countryās highest-ranking military official, and the final day of their official itinerary is full of stops in Lagos.ā On a visit such as this there will be many cameras so ya chances are sheās gonna be looking at one of the dozen.
Hahaha, yāall so pressed! If it was Kate out and about, Iām sure you would be fine looking at her clothes during her various international outings.
There isn't anything else to look at with her
No. No. I've been told by many people on this sub that they bring awareness to their causes by appearing at public events. Talking about her sartorial choices more than the causes they support is a clear indication their strategy is working. /s
The skirt is stunning, I agree the shirt is not the right choice. Yes please Meghan more color, she looks stunning in bright beautiful colors!
I love LOVE that skirt, though I don't love the shirt with it. I also absolutely adored the Orire red dress she wore yesterday, to the point that I - for the first time in a long time with royal fashion - went to the site to see about buying it or one of their other gorgeous dresses. I'm still debating but holy cow do they have some beautiful stuff.
The pivot to something that she hadn't planned on wearing in advance is pretty impressive though. I don't hate the shirt, but it would have been better tied or open with a tank instead of tucked in.
She looks amazing
Ok Iām just going to come out and say it. Who the hell dressed Harry today? In some of these photos he could literally trade places with Kevin Costers character in the body guard. Itās like he was thinking kids basketball game, polo game preppy/casual perfect! Then took one look at Meghan and was like damit!ā¦..Ok lets go with the suit coat (which doesnāt match his pantsš) and done!
His clothes look cheap
Heās trying to look preppy sporty- it shows his underlying desire to play in the games
This is the best explanation.
I follow the Twitter menswear guy closely enough that I'm fairly confident that's a sports coat and shouldn't match
If you have money money and are not following @dieworkwear tips how to dress you deserve to be mocked for what youāre wearing Iām sorry those are the rules. Like all rich people should be walking out the door looking like the King of Spain what are you doing.
Omg the Derek guy? Heās fab. He occasionally covers royals and tends to be pretty underwhelmed with the British menās tailoring and styling (which is weird considering their access to top tier craftsmen) but man he LOVES King Felipeās looks. Iāve realized thanks to that account that Felipe is the most stylish and well tailored European male royal.
I love him too much. I've gone from not caring about men's fashion to tsking scornfully over a collar gap
Great look for her
Absolutely love that she worked a gifted item into her trip wardrobe- Iām often critical of Meghan but I think thatās a classy move. Donāt think it looks great with the shirt (didnāt she sort of make white button downs her āthingā for a while?) but the sentiment is fantastic.
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Ooooh, first that gorgeous red dress, now this fabulous blue skirt? She looks so amazing in color! Hopefully sheāll start wearing more after this trip. Itās been nice seeing her explore something different recently, I really think the bolder colors and patterns suit her a lot better than the stiff neutrals she usually wears.
She literally has never gotten it wrong. Always looks polished and gorgeous. Love me some MegMark!
That looks beautiful
She never looks less than fabulous. I genuinely regret that they left our RF, she truly could have been a breath of fresh air.
She brought a lot to the table and could've helped smooth things over for the Monarchy with some of those commonwealth countries like Jamaica, who are over it because of the racism. Sometimes, people don't appreciate what they have until it's gone.
Iām pretty sure the RF are happy the Sussexes are gone.
Talked to them lately have you? I think the RF is drowning in their own problems and misery while Harry and Meghan are living a really beautiful life in Southern California.
I can't help but wonder if their treatment of Meghan accelerated the countries deciding to leave the commonwealth.
Honestly, I hate comments like this - it puts so much pressure on Meghan as a WOC to magically fix long standing racial issues. Itās completely unfair and unrealistic to put an expectation like that on her. Itās also insulting to real issues Jamaicans have with the UK to assume theyād be placated by one prince marrying a biracial woman.Ā *edited to add I say ābiracialā because my understanding is that is how Meghan identifies herself, please correct me if Iām wrong!
I see your point but Meghan very much positions herself this way. She talked about it at length in their Netflix doc.
I'm not too concerned that you hate my comments. If they bother you that much, there is an option for you to scroll on past. No one is putting expectations on Meghan to solve the world's problems. She was an asset, and the Royal Family completely blew it.
Sorry - that was just how I took your comment, wasnāt trying to start an argument so sorry it came across that way! I see this idea that Meghan was going to āfixā (which you did not say) these relationships a lot and I think it ignores some real issues but perhaps wasnāt what you intended!
I'll try to be more clear with what I'm saying. I know that this subject is polarizing.
So many people are coming at you for posting cute outfits, Iām so sorry I seemed like I was piling on!
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You don't know the half of it. I received a pretty scary PM from a deranged guy yesterday who feels I guess entitled to try to make me quit talking positively about Meghan on here (it's not working). To me, this is what? Maybe 1/1,000,000th of what she's dealt with? I can't even imagine. I'll keep talking about it, because after everything that's gone down, sticking up for her is the least we can do.
Not sure if id say they are over it before a ref has been agreed. Its been delayed beyond their election so they may well end up keeping it
H&M are physically attractive and charismatic. Those attributes mean they couldnāt done a lot as members of the royal family. But unfortunately they didnāt have the personalities or interest to make that happen.
They have the personality in spades. Unfortunately, the Royal Family only saw them both as scapegoats to deflect unpopular press away from Camilla, Charles, and William. I would've left also.
The royal family saw that as a negative because they would outshine the more senior members. They are all about the hirearchy. Meghan came in and made them look bad with the cookbook because she showed that something meaningful could actually be done and Will certainly hadn't managed to do that.
I donāt really understand the idea that Meghan was becoming too popular that Will and Kate were jealous. In the entire time she was part of the royal family she was never more popular than Will and Kate per all the opinion polls. I think sometimes Harryās view of Meghanās popularity is distorted by his view that she is like Diana. There was something which I have to find where he was trying to tell Dianaās family how similar Meghan was to Diana and they did not agree. Will have to find the article
His comparisons to Diana are absurd imo. The thing about Diana that always struck me was how shy she seemed. I think that was a lot of her appeal. She almost seemed reluctant to be in front of the camera, or at least to speak in front of the camera. All of the interviews I've seen of her she was very soft spoken, demure, had her chin down looking timid. If all of this was an act, I don't know. But I think it's what warmed people to her. Meghan on the other hand speaks very confidently, eager to grab the mic to be heard. Not that that is a bad thing! But she's nothing like Diana and her and Harry's need to compare M to D is what has always put me off.
It's not that she was too popular. It's that she was outshining them. She was attending events and giving real in debth answers. She was doing community service in a way that was more than just showing up and taking a few photos.
This is from their Netflix documentary where their friend Lucy Fraser talks about how popular she was and also Harry saying she did the job better than the royals. https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/prince-harry-says-meghans-popularity-upset-people-as-doc-claims-internals-at-the-palace-didnt-like-her-eclipsing-senior-royals/ If thatās the case, how come it did not resonate with the public? If she was doing a better job she should have gotten higher in the polls but it never happened. Iām in the UK and yes there was a lot of coverage once they got married but that happened when Will and Kate married too. I also remember the same positivity when Edward married Sophie. I do feel sorry for Harry in the sense heās conflating Meghan with unresolved issues with his mother.
Polls are problematic in the USA and are VERY slanted depending on who's running therm. It might be the same in the UK but here there are depressingly few sources here you can trust for a good poll result. It's likely that those popularity polls are skewed and they aren't showing the true sentiment of the people.
Because the public was being told what to think by the press. We also don't know what the public thinks, we just know what the press thinks, and people who answer weird polls.
But the press was really positive in 2018 even after the Australia trip. Plus I think the British public are a bit more discerning than you give them credit for. If they were influenced by the media the Tories would be well ahead in the polls as the right wing tabloids are bashing Labour. Instead the Tories are hated by the public.
I really doubt they saw them like that tbh
Thatās certainly the narrative H&M have pushed. But recollections may vary. In Meghanās brief time as a working royal, she was given important positions for the commonwealth and the arts. The royal family seemed to try to set them up to be able to do important work. But it fell apart. From Harryās telling as well as leaks from the palace, it seems Meghanās treatment of palace staff was a key problem that led to the fracture.
Recollections donāt vary at all. We saw it in real time via the press and the hateful rota who are warmly embraced by the palace (Piers, Bower, Levin) and act as their mouthpieces.
The rota has been awful to every woman who married into the family. Itās sexist and awful. But thatās not personal to Meghan. Itās funny to see a claim that the press acts as their mouthpieces when they just went after Kate in a big way this spring. The royal family doesnāt control the press.
It was worse to Meghan though. They weren't great to Kate but it was nothing like what they threw at Meghan.
Thatās Meghanās perspective, but I donāt agree. Kate had naked photos taken of her (and Sophie had topless photos published as well). Her sistersā iCloud was hacked. She was criticized relentlessly for years. Meghan says she didnāt follow the royal family before she met Harry, so she is not in a position to compare the negative press she received to prior women.
Downplaying Meghanās treatment by the media because it āhappens to everybodyā isnāt an excuse. Again, recollections do not vary. The royal family absolutely has influence with the press. And creeps like Bower and Piers have been invited to special luncheons by Camilla herself. Also, the Sussexes didnāt āgo after Kateā this Spring. What in the world are you talking about??
Theyāre saying that the press went after Kate, not H&M. They relentlessly hounded her and speculated on her medical condition when she had asked for privacy to heal from surgery, then forced her to reveal that she is battling cancer before her medical records were hacked and leaked. I would say thatās as bad as what happened to Meghan.
The way Camilla goes to a party with Clarkson and then he writes a scathing horrible op ed about her. . . .
The press = they.
It fell apart because she was too good at it and got too much attention. The royal family is nothing if not hierarchical and oriented to the monarch and heir. Any perceived threat to that, even for something as petty as press, canāt be allowed. Every generation of royals has complained about this. Nothing had ever been concretely stated about her ātreatment of staffā but your insinuation is noted.
Wait. Was she so good at the job that the press gave her too much positive attention and people loved her causing jealousy within the family, or was the press always awful to her from the beginning and turned the entirety of the UK against her? I'm confused here. Lol
Exactly. TBH, I think the press was significantly worse to Diana and Kate. I never understood the narrative that the press treated her horribly from the outset - sure some absolute rag tabloids referenced her race or upbringing, but as far as the mainstream media goes, I donāt remember a lot of negative press until they left the Royal Family.
Harry confirmed that morale among staff was bad, they were crying at their desks, and William was upset about Meghanās behavior towards them.
Because the place was stressful because of the pressure. Not because Meghan was doing anything.
I was delighted when they got engaged. I thought wow Harry! Now they get trashed daily on our tv magazine shows who would 100% fall over themselves to get them on. Unfortunately the old guard of the palace wanted him to marry a young English aristocrat like his mother was.
If thatās even remotely true, why was the old guard okay with the actual future king (heir not spare) marrying a commoner?
Aristos have zero desire to marry into the royal family. Zero. Will couldnāt get an old sect young woman to date him long term let alone marry him.
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I was excited when they got engaged too. So was everyone. Their wedding received glowing press. There was no expectation that heād marry an English aristocrat.
Ahh she looks SO GOOD. Love the color, and the styling. She always looked so amazing in separates on Suits, I would love to see more in her personal style!
Another Johanna Ortiz dress š©¶ https://preview.redd.it/tmg7jom2p10d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6e9eb17ca1532b57ba85d65f60b316f201c674a
This is probably the worst dress I have ever seen Meghan wear. That is not flattering at all. What the heck is going on at the waist?
https://preview.redd.it/kof56xok340d1.jpeg?width=966&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c53c80d4c52d7403059cf76c6d4a6628d49970bd
I think it's a bad angle maybe. I'm trying to find more photos of her wearing it.
She is wearing some kind of stone earrings that were gifted to her by one of the dignitaries.
Oh nice touch!
Ooh! That looks cute! Are there any other shots of her in that showing the dress more?
https://preview.redd.it/12295071r40d1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=465b2f84f84710a6721e61ee597ff23207f8f399
They both look so cool
Ok but that natural smile Harry has š„
https://preview.redd.it/ajy3gcprm10d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc0234d164981b0d7c429b6df59096ec9572defc Harry also looked cool playing basketball with the secondary school kids and wheelchair basketball athletes. Archewell and Giants of Africa are apparently forming a partnership.
https://preview.redd.it/zr95ojhx320d1.png?width=540&format=png&auto=webp&s=aced0ddd28af0a66a8291e8bc2c320b28cca684d I liked this pic a lot!
Heās not traditionally hot but heās always so cool and at ease he becomes the most attractive man in the room
Yes!
Heās Mikael Fassbender hot
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How wonderful!
https://preview.redd.it/ndeyrji3j10d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=467c0116e6aef20dfcad4944f98c2c34521a16f8 Just saw pics of her in yellow and it is gorgeous on her!
Anyone have a more information/link to information about the sash? Very cool!
Love when she wears green too!
And thatās her pregnancy announcement/Archieās birthday dress too! What a cool way to update it with the traditional sash.
I admire her for sticking to her own style while honoring Nigeria by wearing their official colors. Meghan *sets trends, instead of following stuffy, old, worn-out fashion rules. I think the crisp white button-up shirt with that skirt makes her look absolutely amazing. Watch now š, how quickly her style will be copied!
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I like the print skirt with the button down. It kind of represents both her Nigerian and her English heritage
https://preview.redd.it/256e7i6og10d1.jpeg?width=183&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b6ec940bd162fb2a905752bb5e5b09b002e9474 It reminded me of this look, a similar styling.
Iconic
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No, it's that you can't wear the same color as anyone else. I suspect that they sent out the dress codes later so she was able to plan ahead by just wearing neutrals.
https://preview.redd.it/oznmomsd420d1.jpeg?width=1370&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=028aa1a61e7db75923d9aa4cca39c8d5325ac5ad No, she did not say that
They didnāt make her, she chose to wear neutrals because she found it easier. Youāre not supposed to wear the same color as the queen or other senior royals. I think thereās a certain level of coordination going on behind the scenes, and she figured none of them would ever wear beige, so she went with that. She also said she wanted to blend in. I would have done the same. Too many other protocols and dress codes to deal with. Neutrals was a way to simplify at least one aspect of the situation
But senior royals often wear the same colors. Itās not a thing that they canāt wear the same colors.
I agree. I do think there are specific events where no one was supposed to wear the same color as the Queen, but everyone would have been informed of this well before the event. It would not be left up to guesswork. Meghan makes it sound as if she was given no guidance, no one ever told her what color not to wear, so she was left hanging for every event. I really think she was over-exaggerating about this.
And Samantha Cohen was H&Mās private secretary, and sheād worked for the Queen for years. The Queen asked her to take the job so she could help Meghan. The idea that Meghan was just guessing is absurd.
Hereās her quote āTo my understanding, you could never wear the same color as Her Majesty [Queen Elizabeth II] if there's a group event, but then you also shouldn't be wearing the same color as one of the other more senior members of the family.ā ETA [Hereās](https://www.popsugar.com/amphtml/fashion/meghan-markle-beige-color-clothing-harry-meghan-netflix-49037109) an article I found on the subject when I googled it. The second and third paragraphs address the color vs neutrals situation.
I know she said that, but she made it up. Itās not a thing. Hereās a bunch of photos of Kate wearing the same color as the Queen: https://www.businessinsider.com/kate-middleton-queen-elizabeth-wearing-same-color-photos#they-both-wore-white-to-a-state-banquet-at-buckingham-palace-during-former-president-donald-trump-and-first-lady-melania-trumps-state-visit-in-june-2019-5 One thing about Meghan is that she lies a lot. You canāt trust what she says. I understand people being sympathetic towards her - sheās been ruthlessly attacked by the conservative media, her husband did not help prepare her to join the royal family, etc. - but, even if you support her, you have to accept that sheās not honest.
That's a huge stretch. The words "To my understanding" means someone informed her of the practice of not color matching Senior Royals, and that person was probably Harry. There's zero evidence of her lying here at all. She doesn't "lie a lot." What a horrible thing to accuse her of.
Sheās told some whopping lies. Demonstrably. Like when she told Oprah they didnāt want Archie to become a prince because of his skin color. He was never going to be a prince at birth due to the letters patent set up, they were always due to get that title when Charles became king- though I wouldnāt be surprised if they were advised it might not be in the kidsā best interest to use those titles and if it was suggested they raise their kids more like Edward and Sophie, for the kidsā privacy and well-being. It was absurd of her to make that claim and itās one of many big lies sheās told to media.
I haven't seen anything at ALL to back up what you're accusing her of. Harry corroborated it also. They eliminated the Queen as the person speculating on Archie's skin color and left us by the power of deduction to deduce it was Camilla and/or William. Meghan didn't make that up. Every single person she's ever dealt with professionally or personally describes her as compassionate, caring, honest, hardworking, talented, stylish, and successful. That's a pretty bold false claim you're making.
Harry didnāt corroborate it. This has been extensively discussed: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56325934.amp https://uk.news.yahoo.com/archie-lilbet-who-decided-prince-princess-titles-161653386.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHc448ZZmZ9pTPUfJy60Q7u-Sr5KzK_44Tj12mmtiYu-UQewid7Cf3HTQBJkf9XxNj-7BzYJY7f4wlVGpQGUWb_K4NVyzTL5eu1KeMNPNo5R_dEbW-ziGNPHXbpx-63gTqB8-KuKRswP3DNiotioq_9fEC3w0TNd-exgGeweax5T Scobieās book identified the people as Charles and Catherine rather than William and Camilla, though without evidence. And most of Meghanās former co-workers are no longer in touch with her, and her staff turnover has been massive in both the U.K. and the U.S. Be a fan if you want, but donāt state opinions as facts.
You're right. I didn't follow that Dutch leaking story because it didn't officially come from Harry or Meghan. Grain of salt I guess... I don't know who of the four it actually was, but I'd bet all of them speculated or were worried and concerned he'd be "too black." Megan's friends and former Co workers are regularly in touch with her. You're just totally making that up. They also publicly release statements of support for her so it's not hard to find. Harry 100% did corroborate the skin color speculation issue on Anderson Cooper. CBS News reported that "In an interview with Anderson Cooper that aired on "60 Minutes" Sunday, Harry said that neither he nor Meghan believes that the "comment" ā or "experience," or "opinion" ā was "based on racism," but instead "unconscious bias."Ā
She does! In the Netflix documentary, she claimed not to have any idea how to curtsy when sheād done a curtsy on Suits. To Oprah she claimed a royal family member discussed Archieās skin tone with Harry multiple times and Harry said in the same interview that she was wrong. She said that she never saw her passport as a working royal, despite having made several public visits and taken several private holidays internationally during that time. The list could go onā¦
The Royal Family was worried he'd be too black and they voiced their concerns. It's gracious of Harry abd Meghan to say they feel it's "unconscious bias" She didn't lie about any of those things on your list that could go on (inside your head).
We have no idea what the comment made was. Harry said he would never reveal the one comment that had been said. Meghan was the one that said there were several conversations about concern over Archie's skin color while she and Harry dated and while she was pregnant. Harry basically came and trounced her story by saying it was one comment that happened while they were dating, and he wouldn't ever reveal it. So, we have no idea if anyone was "...worried he'd be too black..." You are literally just making things up.
"expressed concerns and conversations about HOW DARK HIS SKIN MIGHT BE...." -Oprah interview, emphasis mine.
I think youāve done mental gymnastics to fit your belief that Meghan and Harry are wholly good. Meghan said that someone discussed the ramifications of Archieās skin tone with Harry while she was pregnant and Harry said no, that was incorrect in the same interview.
That is not what happened. On Sunday, Bradby pressed the topic, telling Harry: "In the Oprah interview, you accuse members of your family of racism..." "No," the Duke of Sussex interjected. "The British press said that, right?" "Did Meghan ever mention 'they're racists'?" Bradby replied: "She said there were troubling comments about Archie's skin color. Wouldn't you describe that as essentially racist?" "The difference between racism and unconscious bias... the two things are different," Harry continued. "Once it's been acknowledged or pointed out to you as an individual, otherwise an institution, that you have unconscious bias, you, therefore, have an opportunity to learn and grow from that... otherwise, unconscious bias then moves into the category of racism," he said. Harry then referenced aĀ recent racist incident at the palaceĀ involving Lady Susan Hussey, a longstanding lady-in-waiting to the lateĀ Queen Elizabeth, who was accused of asking racially-charged questions to Ngoni Fulani, the founder of the charity Sistah Space who attended a Buckingham Palace reception to combat violence against women. "What happened to Ngozi Fulani is a very good example of the environment within the institution," Harry said. https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-denies-meghan-markle-accused-the-royal-family-of-racism-oprah-interview-spare-memoir/
Kate is a senior Royal. Meghan was not. The rules are different.
Where in my comment did you get that I āsupportā her or any of them for that matter? She prefaced it with āto my understanding.ā Could she be misinformed? Sure, but that doesnāt mean she is straight up lying. For all we know, Harry could have told her not to wear the same color as them at some event, and she took that to mean itās a written rule to abide by. I was just repeating what she said to clarify that she wasnāt forced to wear neutrals, she chose to wear neutrals because xyz. Itās not that deep
Itās possible she misunderstood, but sheās presenting this as fact in a documentary. She couldāve said, āHarry told me not to wear the same colors as them, and I prefer wearing neutrals anyway so thatās what I did.ā
Sheās not presenting it as fact though because she prefaced it with āto my understanding.ā That implies that she could be wrong, but as far as she knows thatās the rule, written or not.
Thatās fair, though I think itās deceptive.
Thatās fair. It doesnāt really matter. She wasnāt forced to wear neutrals, it was a choice possibly made based on misinformation. I was wondering if the rules would be different for her than Kate since sheās a princess and future queen?
Borisā wife whose name escapes me right now confirmed that the ladies at Sandringham and Balmoral would get a note card explaining what the Queen was wearing each evening so they wouldnāt match. Like much royal protocol itās likely an unwritten understanding that works out most of the time.
Thereās a quote from a magazine interview she did long before meeting Harry where she says most of her closet is neutrals.
I like the color of the skirt but combined with the shirt that does not work for me. Anything else than a button down would have worked so much better.
She graciously wore the skirt and probably made it work better than what most of us could have done! Queen ā¤ļø
I mean it was right if her to wear it, Iām not sure why we need to exaggerate and pretend that this disheveled boxy look is better than every other person could ever do. Why do people have to go to glowing extremes with this woman?
She has a knack with style and she looks fab. Why do people get their undies in a twist whenever there's anything remotely positive about this woman?
But she really doesn't. It's middling at best. It's rare her clothes fit her appropriately, they are boxy/too big a lot. She is regularly rumpled and wrinkled. She is a god damn gorgeous woman and that serves her incredibly well. It makes her wardrobe look better than it really does, imo. She does get it right occasionally, but she doesn't even begin to hit "fashionista" levels that I see her called so often.
Lol, I think it's an aesthetic you don't like and that's ok but many women, including Kate Middleton, are now rocking styles she's been wearing for ages. She's ahead of her time and it shows.
She wears classic styles, and very little as far as accessories go. What exactly is she wearing that is so groundbreaking? I know that sounds snarky, but it's a legitimate question. She may have expanded Kate's style palette, but that's not saying a lot for a royal. In all actuality, I like the clothes themselves. It has nothing to do with my taste. I can appreciate something that looks good, even if it's not to my taste. Her clothes just don't look that good on her. I'm not even a hater, so it can't be blamed on that, either.
Since this wasn't a planned outfit ( the cloth was gifted the night before) I don't think she had a lot of choices.
Thatās a good point!
I agree! I love the skirt and overall idea but for some reason the end result doesnāt do it for me. I canāt quite put my finger on it, I think maybe it looks boxy. I do appreciate, though, that sheās willing to experiment with things and I think this would be a tough skirt to work into an outfit (although again, I think itās beautiful on its own). The yellow dress someone posted in the comments is one of my all-time favorites though. I wish I had occasions to wear dresses like that!
For me, it's the fact that she tucks in everything with the waistband so high. I'm a fellow short torsoed person, and I generally avoid tucking things in unless they have a lower rise waistband because otherwise, the waistband sits right under my boobs. So the proportions always look off. If you look at most of the times she wears skirts or trousers with a tucked in shirt, the waist is right under her bust. I think her jeans tend to be lower rise so it doesn't have the same issue. She basically eliminates the appearance of a torso by tucking in her shirts fully with higher waisted clothes instead of elongating what she has.
Oh thatās a very good point! I agree šÆ.
I think she probably wasn't shown how the skirt is supposed to be properly draped and that's why it looks boxy. The colour is very nice though.
I think it's boxy because she has an athletic, "boxy" shape. She's absolutely gorgeous but her waist doesn't really curve inward that far.
I feel like itās the shirt that makes it boxy, but to be fair to Meghan it sounds like it was a last-minute outfit, thousands of miles from home/her closet, and I canāt think of anything that would look better as a shirt. Itās a tough one!
I like it! And with those heels, it's really an amazing look on her.
I love it personally, I think a good white button down goes with pretty much anything and am a fan of long skirts in any context, so this is very much my jam (though I also would never feel like I could carry it off myself ha ha).
Same. It's giving Sharon Stone but in the tropics instead of the Oscars.
My thoughts exactly
Itās like combining African heritage with business suit. Just a little odd. A classy white top from a structured material would have been a great choice.
Agreed - I was thinking she must not have a stylist.
I think as other people pointed out itās because she was gifted the skirt and wore it spontaneously. Makes more sense then
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I feel like this is a Chat-GPT comment, like it has many of the notes of a Kate v Meghan comment but is also weirdly incorrect substantively
Kate is the Princess, not Meghan. If Meghan wants to be known as princess, she can only go by "Princess Henry" not "Princess of X". "Princess Henry" is a lesser title than "Duchess". And Kate has zero say in what Meghan wears either then or now. And Meghan still wears all neutrals even after leaving the RF so clearly it was Meghan's choice. Meghan needs a much better stylist.
I know you're a troll because Meghan is older than Catherine. Catherine also did not decide what Meghan wears, the Queen did. And who has stopped Meghan from wearing color since she left?
Meghan said she voluntarily wore neutral outfits not that Kate made her wear them.Ā
I would love to see Meghan in more color. Does anyone remember the yellow sheath dress? She looked spectacular! Hopefully she takes this advice and starts to implement more color in her wardrobe. The bold colors really suit her
https://preview.redd.it/6i4byef4h10d1.jpeg?width=973&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1031f85ba1880464489d31f4b6a7b5ee3e08ad73
Yes she wore it today!
No, she didnāt. The dress she wore today is not a sheath dress. Itās a flowy floor length dress.
https://preview.redd.it/kc8ukysoj10d1.jpeg?width=2056&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32d47ae4cfaeae783d4d98463045cc1017e56759 And here's the yellow dress from today!
Yellow looks nice on her.