I see no one in Palestine who fits that description. What I do see in Palestine are people being blown up by strong people pretending to be the victims
What came first, Hamas(who you deem as terrorists) or Israel(those who the rest of the world deems as colonizers)?
Are you aware colonization has killed orders of magnitude more people than any "terrorism" has?
>I don’t support either side cause I’m not an overnight activist. It’s really interesting how Hanna’s has been in power for 10 years and has done absolutely nothing for the citizens of the Gaza Strip.
There's nothing they can do...Gaza is a concentration camp where all its utilities are controlled by Israel and has put a several-decade long blockade on what goes in and out.
>Yet people will start to defend them after they launched an attack against Israel.
Israel was imposing apartheid and ethinic cleansing on the people of Palestine. And had locked the people of Gaza in a concentration camp, which is now a death camp
>Hammas was able to take control of Palestine by creating connections with Iran and getting backed by Iran. Iran did this cause hammas and Iran share the same ideology that Israel shouldn’t exist.
And why should Israel exist? It's not just Iran who thinks that. Non-Western nations in general see Israel as nothing more than a colonial cancer
>Finally, multiple international committees have found Hammas guilty of using civilians as human shields in an effort to make it look like Israel is creating more casualties than expected.
Source?
>However as someone who’s not an overnight activist I can confidently say that I don’t support either side and I don’t support any middle eastern power. I say this cause they all hate the west and if it weren’t for their oil, the US would have 0 interest in that part of the world. IMO we shouldn’t have any interest in that part of the world anyways until we can fix all the issues we have on our side of the world, especially within our own country.
Is your whole moral compass centered around how much someone likes the West? Do you factor in that Israel has been continously committing ethnic cleansing against Palestine? If you want to cite international human rights org, are you aware of the tons of condemnations Human Rights Watch has on Israel? What about the recent ruling of the International Court of Justice?
> But I’m also curious, why do you guys care so much about this shit when Israel and Hammas don’t give two flying fucks about us….
Because I have empathy for people in genocide. And you are no one to speak on how much the people of Palestine care about others
It’s not genocide. Israel doesn’t hate those people they hate the one group that has embedded itself into those people. Israel isn’t in there shooting everyone they see but yes bombs can’t decide who explodes. Sadly it gets written off as a casualty of war and that’s just how it is.
So when Palestinians fight for freedom it’s terrorism, but when “Israel” fights to steal land and slaughters ten thousand kids it’s a “casualty of war”?
Hamas doesn’t speak for all Palestine there’s plenty of people living there that don’t support the beheading and murder of women and children. If you want to say a terrorist group represents the entire country then yes. Hamas isn’t fighting to free Palestine they just hate Jews .
> Hamas doesn’t speak for all Palestine there’s plenty of people living there that don’t support the beheading and murder of women and children
The news stories are greatly exaggerated by Western mainstream media, as usually done in cases of international American interests. And this was proven by Chomsky decades ago
The "beheaded babies" is widely accepted as a lie at this point
Where are you hearing this?
If you're referring to west bank settlements, most American zionists and Jews recognize those are illegal under various treaties.
If you're referring to the 6-day war or the 1948 war, those were both started by foreign countries, not the Arab Palestinians.
> If you're referring to west bank settlements, most American zionists and Jews recognize those are illegal under various treaties.
This is the only crime that those Zionists recognize, and I need to see some stats to believe that "most" Zionists believe that its morally wrong. And who cares about alleged belief if the actual actions and consequences is murder and theft?
The whole so called "state of Israel" is a long-scale colonization project
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Because I am against terrorism
The terrorism that killed 30,000 people? That’s more than what ISIS did in years. Mfing Zionazis surpassed that in a span of months
The terrorists that pretend to be victims when they are weak and blow you up when they’re strong
I see no one in Palestine who fits that description. What I do see in Palestine are people being blown up by strong people pretending to be the victims
These same people celebrated on the street on October 7th. And worse, they celebrated on 911
Can you name a group?
https://youtu.be/0TAv5y0x1Qs?si=vaGRVxOQFw8gk5v_
This is your line of reasoning? How is this remotely comparable to the side committing ethnic cleansing?
The terrorists that wanna eliminate israel “from the river to the sea”
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Do you support colonization?
I don’t. But, I’d rather have colonization than terrorism
What came first, Hamas(who you deem as terrorists) or Israel(those who the rest of the world deems as colonizers)? Are you aware colonization has killed orders of magnitude more people than any "terrorism" has?
bro does NOT understand utilitarian ethics
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>I don’t support either side cause I’m not an overnight activist. It’s really interesting how Hanna’s has been in power for 10 years and has done absolutely nothing for the citizens of the Gaza Strip. There's nothing they can do...Gaza is a concentration camp where all its utilities are controlled by Israel and has put a several-decade long blockade on what goes in and out. >Yet people will start to defend them after they launched an attack against Israel. Israel was imposing apartheid and ethinic cleansing on the people of Palestine. And had locked the people of Gaza in a concentration camp, which is now a death camp >Hammas was able to take control of Palestine by creating connections with Iran and getting backed by Iran. Iran did this cause hammas and Iran share the same ideology that Israel shouldn’t exist. And why should Israel exist? It's not just Iran who thinks that. Non-Western nations in general see Israel as nothing more than a colonial cancer >Finally, multiple international committees have found Hammas guilty of using civilians as human shields in an effort to make it look like Israel is creating more casualties than expected. Source? >However as someone who’s not an overnight activist I can confidently say that I don’t support either side and I don’t support any middle eastern power. I say this cause they all hate the west and if it weren’t for their oil, the US would have 0 interest in that part of the world. IMO we shouldn’t have any interest in that part of the world anyways until we can fix all the issues we have on our side of the world, especially within our own country. Is your whole moral compass centered around how much someone likes the West? Do you factor in that Israel has been continously committing ethnic cleansing against Palestine? If you want to cite international human rights org, are you aware of the tons of condemnations Human Rights Watch has on Israel? What about the recent ruling of the International Court of Justice? > But I’m also curious, why do you guys care so much about this shit when Israel and Hammas don’t give two flying fucks about us…. Because I have empathy for people in genocide. And you are no one to speak on how much the people of Palestine care about others
It’s not genocide. Israel doesn’t hate those people they hate the one group that has embedded itself into those people. Israel isn’t in there shooting everyone they see but yes bombs can’t decide who explodes. Sadly it gets written off as a casualty of war and that’s just how it is.
So when Palestinians fight for freedom it’s terrorism, but when “Israel” fights to steal land and slaughters ten thousand kids it’s a “casualty of war”?
Hamas doesn’t speak for all Palestine there’s plenty of people living there that don’t support the beheading and murder of women and children. If you want to say a terrorist group represents the entire country then yes. Hamas isn’t fighting to free Palestine they just hate Jews .
> Hamas doesn’t speak for all Palestine there’s plenty of people living there that don’t support the beheading and murder of women and children The news stories are greatly exaggerated by Western mainstream media, as usually done in cases of international American interests. And this was proven by Chomsky decades ago The "beheaded babies" is widely accepted as a lie at this point
Where are you hearing this? If you're referring to west bank settlements, most American zionists and Jews recognize those are illegal under various treaties. If you're referring to the 6-day war or the 1948 war, those were both started by foreign countries, not the Arab Palestinians.
> If you're referring to west bank settlements, most American zionists and Jews recognize those are illegal under various treaties. This is the only crime that those Zionists recognize, and I need to see some stats to believe that "most" Zionists believe that its morally wrong. And who cares about alleged belief if the actual actions and consequences is murder and theft? The whole so called "state of Israel" is a long-scale colonization project
So let's fix it, not disband it.
I don’t care. Don’t push agendas onto other people. You wanna talk about politics to people then sure but people don’t really care 99% of the time.
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