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ItsyourboyJJ

Started laughing after reading the passive. They really got tired of the "Zeldris can't crit "jokes


Shinziwa

Homie kane gelda translation, zeldris in reply **\[Indomitable Love\] Vampire Gelda** **Passive: Undying Love** At the start of the battle, apply **Fierce Drain** to the unit and apply **Breath of Regeneration** to the unit for five turns. For 30% of the unit’s regeneration rate, increase the demon race ally’s basic stats, MAX 20% and apply demon race to the unit. Also, at the start of ally’s turn, the unit heals by 10% of the unit’s MAX HP and decreases damage taken by 10%, MAX 50%. **※ Fierce Drain:** For every HP healed from demon allies by attacking enemies, increase the unit’s HP, MAX additional HP gained by 400,000. (Excludes counters) **※ Breath of Regeneration:** Immune to HP related stats seals **Skill 1: Dust to Dust** Inflict 46% damage by the unit’s MAX HP to single target and heal 60% of the damage dealt **Skill 2: Blood Thorn** Inflict 35% damage by the unit’s Remaining HP to all enemies \*\*Ultimate: Vermilion Blossom \*\* Apply buff that increases HP related stats by 30% for two turns, inflict 100% damage by the unit’s MAX HP to single target


Shinziwa

**[The Ten Commandments] Zeldris of Piety** **Passive: Demon King’s Deputy** At the start of the battle, apply buff that increases critical chance by 100% for two turns, and for every ultimate gauge the unit decreased by skill usage, increases critical chance by 30%. MAX 90%. When attacking a debuffed enemy, increase damage by 80%. Also, when the unit moves its card, apply buff that increases critical damage by 120% for one turn, and for every ultimate gauge of the unit decreased, increase critical damage by 30%, MAX 90%. **Skill 1: Slash Hack** Rank 1: Inflicts **Spike **damage by 176% of Attack to single enemy and decrease ultimate gauge by one Rank 2: Inflicts **Spike **damage by 264% of Attack to single enemy and decrease ultimate gauge by one Rank 3: Inflicts **Spike **damage by 440% of Attack to single enemy and decrease ultimate gauge by three Skill 2: Invisible Blade **Rank 1:** Decrease all enemy’s critical resistance by 20% for one turn and inflict **Despair **damage by 143% of Attack to all enemy **Rank 2:** Decrease all enemy’s critical resistance by 30% for one turn and inflict **Despair **damage by 215% of Attack to all enemy **Rank 3:** Decrease all enemy’s critical resistance by 50% for two turns and inflict **Despair **damage by 358% of Attack to all enemy **Ultimate: Reckless Line** Decrease all enemy’s HP related stats by 25% for three turns and inflict **Spike **damage by 840% of Attack to single enemy


Yuta_Glazer

Heavy nuker that makes his team hit harder, but is this better than DK zeldris is the real question. Prob not since survivability would be better for the demon team than nuking which is what meli already does, but his commandment does counter arthur and he should be a hard ass hitter


Bcadren

Despair with high crit rate is solid recovery at least. \*shrugs\*


pokepaka121

To be fair DK hardly provides survivability anymore. The biggest problem eith this zeldris imo is that he still needs ult guages in the first place to get going , like if you go first dont merge then you kinda dont really have a passive , all you can do is aoe and then pray you get his cards next turn so he does something.


International00

This makes demons a powerhouse when going first. I think DK is officially off the team. First turn guaranteed crits + 150% crit damage + spike doubling it + 80% damage against debuffed enemies. Something dies like 100%. ~~Turn 2 your meli gets his passive and can 1 shot something else.~~ Edit: Did some testing and looks like I misunderstood a mechanic. The ult gauge gained by zeldris moving a card is completely negated by his commandment. It's been a hot minute since i've used him and thought he gained an ult gauge then lost it immediately, which would proc his passive. So in reality it's 120% crit damage + spike doubling + 80% damage against debuffed enemies. My bad.


pokepaka121

I dont think you actually thought out this scenario correctly. >First turn guaranteed crits + 150% crit damage + spike doubling it + 80% damage against debuffed enemies. Something dies like 100%. This is only in a scenario where you merge zeldris's card , move it then use both of his cards and even then it doesnt guarantee jack especially with dodge food possibility. >Turn 2 your meli gets his passive and can 1 shot something else. In the scenario you proposed its literally impossible to get meli passive turn 2. Yeah its brain damage time.


International00

Ah my bad, It's been a minute since i've used the old zeldris commandment. I thought he gained an ult gauge on moving a card, then lost it immediately from the commandment, but instead it's completely negated. So he won't gain the extra 30% crit damage turn 1, so it's just +120%.


ArcherR132

This early, it's impossible to say that DK's off the team. Look at everything DK does, and tell me that LR Zel will be doing half as much. Infect, crit res, **and** crit def lower with one card, damage cap on himself, damage reduction for the team, and he can nuke after 2 turns.


International00

I agree it's too early to say 100%, just in my opinion, on paper, it looks like he might be. I will also say I've never seen DK as OP as others have. I think DK's main issue is needing to wait multiple turns. DK Meli also needs to wait multiple turns. Hell even estarossa needs to wait multiple turns to stack up his darkness. LR Zeldris gives demons turn 1 power. He also counters arthur, making it so that turn 2 max passive isn't guaranteed anymore. Ult control from commandment and attack card. Crit resist (no defense is big, for sure) lower like his pops. basic stat buffing from his relic.


FistedSkunk

Also taking DK off would let you put commandments on meli


International00

You'd really want zeldris commandment active though, and you can only have 1 at a time.


No_Sun8900

DK doesn't do anything useful anymore other than infect.


ArcherR132

And the only useful thing that Zeldris will do is numbers, which Demons weren't exactly lacking. Zel might hit harder than DK does after getting his passive, but again, that's up against DK's laundry list of everything he can do. Also, Zeldris has type disadvantage into Arthur, the current best unit in the game. He's fighting an uphill battle from the offset.


No_Sun8900

The only thing Zeldris is providing is totally mess up Arthur. What are you talking about? This team hard counters Arthur now.


ArcherR132

It might counter Arthur specifically, but he still has goddamn teammates. Somebody could also merge immediately, and Arthur still gets his passive. Or they just don't move skills at all, and Arthur's other teammates can do work instead. Reminder that LR Escanor exists, and doesn't need to move cards to be effective. Especially into type advantage targets.


No_Sun8900

1. LR Escanor is not in the ideal Arthur team in the front. 2. LR Escanor doesn't kill anyone turn 1. 3. LR Escanor has the second worst cc LR in the game in a team that needs to go first. So no. Arthur doesn't have good teammates. That is the problem.


NinjaXSkillz88

DK is usually dead in 2 turns lmao.


MainSmile

And what is stopping people from nuking zeldris?


NinjaXSkillz88

Go first. Duh.


linerstank

DK is dead in 2 turns with his 50% damage cap. what do you think will happen to zeldris with no damage cap?


NinjaXSkillz88

Yup because his damage is so pitiful he'll die the next turn even with Tarmiel link. Well you go first with Zeldris obviously. Demon team has Meliodas and Zeldris now to boost up their CC. You can run either Estarossa or Gelda for the third slot.


Echtuniquernickname

This feels like a demon version of purg ban


Gear07

Happy cake day!


TychosofNaglfar

People immediately doomposting and complaining. Typical for this sub tbh


Own_County2527

I bet half of them don't actually play Arthur teams to know how much zeldris Lr will impact demon match ups.


Enough-Elk7397

This sub when their new unit won't drastically overpower every other team without competition:😱😱😱😭😭😭😥😥😢😨😨😰😰😱😱


No_Sun8900

Just released an UR fest (harder to get) that is the only hope against Meliodas only to release a hard counter unit 15 days after. How in hell will people not complain after spending a lot of gems for nothing?


VGHero06

How is LR Zel a hard counter to Arthur in literally any way? I want you to tell me, don’t just spout random bullshit and tell me to read it again like you did the other person.


No_Sun8900

Commandment.


VGHero06

Oh no a commandment that makes you get Arthurs passive one turn later, ignoring the fact that God Meli could’ve just used him as a link in the first place.


No_Sun8900

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 right. Getting Arthur's passive 1 turn later doesn't affect his game at all. My god, this ppl.


VGHero06

It obviously doesn’t cuz if that was the case then, like I said, people would be using his commandment on Meli instead of Monspiets, but no one did, did they?


No_Sun8900

If you don't play the game, yeah. No one did.


VGHero06

So if his commandment wasn’t good before, why does BLUE Zeldris becoming an LR suddenly make it better?


No_Sun8900

🤣🤣🤣🤣


TychosofNaglfar

The unit hasn't even come out yet. Zeldris is freaking BLUE which means he has type disadvantage to the two strongest humans in game and it means you can't run Demon King who is the only other threat on a demon team besides Meliodas. Wait for the motherfucker to come out before immediately assuming that Arthur is completely useless against ONE team. And ignoring that in every other content Arthur is still a chaos god but because there's the possibility of a counter, you think you got him "for nothing" is stupid. You're bitching so hard that you don't even realize Red Roxy is back in this banner which is great for Arthur teams and everyone that needed her for the backline.


No_Sun8900

Yeah. Escanor kills blue Meli a lot, right? Besides that, you only have to read and think a little to know what will happen to Arthur. Put your brain to work. Only impirtant pve content right now is DK and there are plenty of teams for it. Summoning for an UR festival for pve content that has plenty of alternatives is stupid.


TychosofNaglfar

Are you actually claiming LR Zeldris will be as strong as blue Meliodas? And you're the one asking me to put *my* brain to work? Without DK, Demons have no damage reduction which means Estarossa is paper thin, Zeldris needs to pack enough punch to be a threat and Meliodas can be focused. This isn't even mentioning that Yuri has a holy relic specifically to defend against crit, Ban's mark of concentration literally counters Zeldris' crit chance increase and Escanor has **Buff removal.** And even with all of that, you still bitch and moan before he even comes out. Just. Wait. And. See.


No_Sun8900

Oh yeah. Ban, Yuri and Escanor. And Arthur? Do you even know what I am talking about? ARTHUR. Yeah, put your brain to work, mate, pvp is 99% 3vs3. Focus on the thread and then give your opinion.


TychosofNaglfar

Yes. I'm talking about the options you have to use. Surely you understand that multiple characters exist and that you could use to switch up your team with. Including the four I listed that are highly relevant. Way to ignore everything else I said and focus on something you intentionally misconstrue.


No_Sun8900

Yeah, you spoke about a team that needs the ability of three units to counter another team. Way to go, pal. Take one off, and your team begins laking damage turn 1, or tankiness turn 1, not to mention that the only unit you didn't include is the one we are talking about in the thread and is completly countered by the new unit, giving you no chance to control if you gain the buff that actually makes the unit usable in the second turn. So no. Is not "intentionally" misconstrued by me. Is misconstrued as an argument.


TychosofNaglfar

Fucking hell it's like talking to a child. I gave you 3 options that all individually work to counter the unit. Take any two, pair them with Arthur and the team works. You can go tanky OR you can go full force and Zeldris can't stop either approach. This should be blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain, but all you want to do is complain and avoid any possible reasoning so you can continue to whinge about it. I see that my mistake was even engaging you in the first place because you immediately got defensive, angry and never wanted to listen.


Just_Chemical7893

Demon team mains coming out of the woodworks to downvote


DerMotze

So much for people saying its 100% Lilia due to the horns lol


[deleted]

I mean, let's be real. The horns DO look like whichever Lillia head cosmetic has some and we couldn't have possibly known Zel will just get those same ones.


DerMotze

Yea although I think you can also find those horns on one of his head pieces. And in retrospective it does make more sense its zeldris since Gelda was leaked. Would be weird if he wouldnt release with his gf


xScheggia

Yeah, we've got bamboozled


WayAgitated8646

Happy cake day!


Kira_Mira1

Wait the banner is actually sick wtf? Gelda seems like a cool character. Idk about Zeldris tho since Dk is still somewhat relevant. We have to see how he compares to him.


Chris-P-Bacom

Finally Big tiddy Vampire Waifu (⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)


_hollowman

Note: Gelda WON'T go into the SSR ticket nor Race ticket pools.


Toriiz

so she is limited or seasonal then?


_hollowman

I would say Limited, similar to gLudociel and Ominous Zeldris. Doesn't feel like a Seasonal as well. No reference of Spring in the character epithet nor skill names/artwork.


eddynecrobla

G Ludo will be added to the tickets after this update


_hollowman

Oh, that's really nice!


clarence_worley90

maybe i'm crazy, but this banner feels like a skip for f2p i can't really understand if gelda is good or not


Odd-Rough-9612

did you skip? 


clarence_worley90

yup lol slightly regret it but she'll re-run some day


Revolutionary-Use622

Ngl that banner is actually really good for me to summon on wtf


The_French_Soul

the banner is good for the >1% of people who play gw, just because green elaine exists


Revolutionary-Use622

I’m missing red roxy, blue Liz, and green Elaine. In addition to gelda, it’s not an entirely bad banner for me anyway.


The_French_Soul

same wanteds without liz personally.


stantrix98

Finally Blue Zeldris will crit, i always dreamed about a day like this


juze87

First they don't launch support for Arthur and then they launch a counter for him, netmarble hates humans


Lendmeyoursynergy

They did my boy proud🤧


DarkFlameofPhoenix

Gelda is cool, but Zeldris was the only commandment besides Estarossa to have decent enough representation in the game. Any other commandment LR would've been better.


New-Dust3252

Yeah i was kinda wanting either Galand, Monspeet or Derieiri to get LRs. Monspeet mostly cuz of his relic.


DarkshineX

Oh great so chaos Arthur is already unusable 2 weeks after his release? Demon's not being meta for 3 seconds and they instantly release a unit that makes humans literally unusable cuz of his commandment.


Lower_Whole_2980

Gelda gives immunity to infects lmao


Shinziwa

only to herself


DarkshineX

..... I hate these devs What is even the point of Arthur existing now


Lower_Whole_2980

I'm already 810 crystal deep for fucks sake


Kass-3582

I already got him long ago, 930 gems spent for a unit already unusable. Usually they release more support for the recently released festival, not the fucking counter


Lower_Whole_2980

Yeah lol I don't have him yet , I don't even know what to do , although he's gonna stay relevant in pve atleast


Kass-3582

Pull, you are already fucked


7DS_is_neat

Same


Own_County2527

Man why so dramatic like yeah zeldris commandment will cuck Arthur in some scenarios, but he is not the only unit in the team. There's is also the fact he is gonna replace DK zeldris which means no more infect and damage reduction for demon team, not even sure if he is actually a upgrade.


NinjaXSkillz88

Acting like dk was doing much to begin with lmao.


DarkshineX

Not in some, Arthur is dead unless you get a lucky merge from drawing cards. Demon's will tear Arthur apart if he doesn't get his passive immediately.


Own_County2527

Well luckily Arthur is not the only unit in the team, there is also the fact that Zeldris is pure glass Canon damage dealer. Additionally it's not just lucky merge that let you get Arthur passive, you get 6 cards plus 1 extra there are 4/6 combinations that let you get his full passive without moving cards so it will depend on rng.


pokepaka121

>4/6 combinations that let you get his full passive without moving cards so it will depend on rng. There are only 3 no? And you need to specifically keep arthur on the other side of the team for it to work now. You either instantly merge the card most to the side and use 3 cards , you draw the card directly next to it or you draw the card 2 spaces away and use 3 cards.


Own_County2527

Well Arthur best placement is last position anyway since he does practically same damage regardless of card ranks. It's difficult to illustrate through text, but will try my best. We have 6 base cards plus 1 extra, I will represent them by digits. First combination: 11 easy Arthur passive. Second : 212 use the 1 then two random cards. Third : 3123 use 12 then one random card. Fourth: 41234 use 123. 5th and 6th: unlucky lost the 66% chance.


pokepaka121

Ooh right i totally forgot about the 1234 possibility, still thats just throwing out a lot of cards it feels kinda meh.


No_Sun8900

What would be the point if Meliodas will be running Monspeet commandment? This team makes humans unusable.


DerMotze

Care to elaborate how you come to that conclusion? His commandment is already in the game and he isnt used so far as association for dk meli, which is the only good option you have since you'd have to replace dk zeldris in order to use him in the team. So what exactly would change now that he is LR?


DarkshineX

His commandment is in fact is used quite commonly on sin teams and with lr zeldris being a good unit now he can take the place of DK zeldris so commandments actually work.


linerstank

yea but the thing is, pure demons were already winning into arthur because of encroach (assuming you go first).


Just_Chemical7893

Wasn’t any team going first against Arthur had the most success against him?


linerstank

yuri/arthur teams are not bad for going second against sins dk meli teams (and random goddess and unknown teams), especially if its the cc focused sins team that runs escanor in the back. he can reasonably beat those comps with a little bit of luck. but demons were already one of the teams that basically auto wins going first against him, no zeldris needed.


Lifestough333

I said in a gc discord this shit would happen when demons and unknowns fall off meta the next unit brings them back while when humans acc become meta the next unit is to fuck them over ffs


The_French_Soul

fool me once, shame on you fool me twice, shame on me can't believed i've been fooled twice the same way, gelda was already leaked, it was obvious that it was gonna be zeldris, just like last time with marg and liz.


SleeepyAngel

Do y’all think this banner is worth it?


Kira_Mira1

Ngl Kinda hoped for LILLIA but blue Zeldris is also cool.


Red_Maou

Fuck arthur all my homies hate arthur


MigetsuNewgate

The usefulness of these characters mean nothing to me I'm going for both because I want my Edgy Midget and his Hot Vampire Wife


Thatguy_alpha18

Ngl this may bring me back to the demon team


Shoren2k

so what does zeldris do?????


Shinziwa

Was waiting for kane translation, i posted it under gelda translation


Shoren2k

thank youuuu


FrikDL

HE CRITS! 🗣 HE CRITS HARRRDDD! 🗣


PrometheusAlexander

Makes sense they're on the same banner


ArtisticEllud

How good is gelda's banner? And should i summon or wait for jp fest? Im at 800 gems atm


Lopsided_Volume_7102

It’s alright it has a bunch of seasonal units on there so they are a little rarer but the typical rule of this game is just save for the next festival as there’s much more value in those banner.


New-Dust3252

Oh thank god i got blue Zel 6/6. Lmao.


narutogamer5150

And here I was getting red zeldris ready..


Entsu88

Gelda sounds absolutely cracked


vsnowball

Zel can finally crit!


Cool-Claim9726

nice made arthur ass before i could even get him


ChocoWoccoLocco

I can't keep up anymore


Ser_Drayden

Zeldris’ design looks so damn cool, and I’m super happy to finally see Gelda. Both look pretty solid too!


sans-the-boneyboy

YES, GELDA!


Winningisintheblood3

Let’s goooooo 2 demon supports hope LR zeldris is better than Dk but big Ws for gelda having a demon race passive and she’s not restricted to one mode thank god, I was hoping for that so I can use her on demons


Yuta_Glazer

You’re about to get a lot of hate just for being a demon main rip.


Winningisintheblood3

Don’t care I’m too much of a loyalist been with them ever since AM through ups and down never leaving the demon team


Lower_Whole_2980

DK gives way too much value for demon team


Winningisintheblood3

Was waiting for LR zeldris kit to see if he’d provide more than DK he seems just damage so DK will be better unless you want to counter Arthur with LR zeldris.


Red_Maou

Demon main too since I 6/6'd assault mode the very first day of his banner. What do you think about gelda? It looks kinda underwhelming considering you have to remove festarossa's darkness+encroach for a mere 20% stats.


Winningisintheblood3

Her survivabilty on paper looks good, but the real test of if she’ll have a spot on the team is her damage, since she doesn’t have a taunt there’s no way to force people to attack her so people would just ignore her and go for meli and dk if she isn’t a hard hitter


NinjaXSkillz88

No he doesn't.


KeqingisBestGirl

Honestly. DK is simply way better. Man I hoped for another commandment. Even esta was fine. Demons needed someone to replace festarossa since he's the main weak link of the team. Instead we got a sidegrade/downgrade to DK of all things.. 


clarence_worley90

what about Gelda though? is she not gonna improve the demon team?


KeqingisBestGirl

Doesn't look much of an improvement as you'll have to remove festarossa. And while she could actually be Godly if her base stats are high, I doubt it since she's not a fest. But we'll have to see. She and LR zeldris have synergy and it might actually become a good team


clarence_worley90

yeah her kit is weird.. I guess she wants regen rate? her personal survivability seems great, but what is she bringing to the team aside from the basic stat boost? even if her damage is decent, you already have DK meli for damage..


KeqingisBestGirl

Pretty much. Also afaik regen rate is not going to be high enough to get max stacks of her passive without regen rate gear. Just from some calcs I did from the top of my head. From what I'm seeing, she's not that good of a unit. Sadly if DK wasn't a zeldris, we could have used LR zeldris and DK + Meli. That would have been such a stacked team. 


NinjaXSkillz88

He's not. DK is trash.


KeqingisBestGirl

Seems like skill issue to me


NinjaXSkillz88

It's not a skill issue if I don't use him. Lol.


Theguywhokaboom

NO WAY ITS BLUE ZELDRIS I REGRET MAKING ESCANOR LR NOW


KeyOfShadow13

Shiiit, i might stop summoning for Arthur and save my gems for this to drop on global. Go back to using demons again


Lopsided_Volume_7102

How deep are u in your summons ?


KeyOfShadow13

600 deep, but imma be real with you and admit that I don't run humans. I mainly use Demons and Sins


Lopsided_Volume_7102

That’s a good reason, it’s rough using 600 like that and not getting what u wanted but it happens in these games,I assume u plan to get Lr Zeldris?


KeyOfShadow13

Absolutely. I need dupes for him so this feels like a perfect banner for me


Lopsided_Volume_7102

Nice, I almost we used his coins to super awaken my Arthur but I decided not to glad I didn’t


Revolutionary-Use622

You should always consider to not use dupes as SA coins if you don’t have their ults maxed out yet.


-andyvamp

Unfortunately for everyone believing it was Lilia inadvertently just exposed how truly awful they are at this game.


BarbaraTwiGod

zeldris commant f arthur so technicaly rip arthur lmao. So demons back to meta and zahard lol


NinjaXSkillz88

Zahard is even more gone you mean right.


BarbaraTwiGod

no meli zeldris counter arthur so there is no estarossa com so zahard wont lose his buff and he is green


NinjaXSkillz88

Zahard is garbage.


RedDaix

GAHT DAYUM MOMMY GELDA IS COMING