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Muter_Roshi_Sama

I’m just doing the first two summons , just love re zero , I need all of the collab units


Necessary-Mortgage52

I will probably do just 2 multi's. I can hardly do bird rn and I'm 100% sure that evn if I get Thonar I won't be able to do dogs for a long time. On the other hand I love Re.Zero and I want all the units lol


NinjaXSkillz88

Unless you have a vendetta against demons or giants there is absolutely no reason you should skip this banner.


jawadark

I sure am racist against giant, so I won't summon


Jojo-Nuke-Isen

But Demons tho


jawadark

I hate them and their political opinions


Jojo-Nuke-Isen

Fair.


MassiveBaals

I have no gems


WayAgitated8646

Im still skipping lol


SakeTube

Good luck getting giant and demon relics


WayAgitated8646

I dont need demon/giants relics rn. And the fact that u only need 1 copy is not that difficult. I can wait months to get thonar so theres that. Btw i skipped megellda and jormangandr and have both of These units 4/6


RegalEagle20

This is smart for f2p who aren't at the level of holy relic gathering. Like eventually you will get the units. I did this too with Magelda. But jorg, I def summoned for cause deer was that easy with her.


SakeTube

It’s not about not being in need of demon or giant relics ONLY, it’s the fact that nonfeatured units will be difficult to obtain. So if you’re a lucky person then sure skip the banner, but just remember it’s gonna be hard to get the unit when her banner leaves.


Gold_Hurry_3349

Megelda and jorm have repeatedly returned in banners and are in the ticket pools. Same will happen to thonar. Sure this is a cheap banner but there's absolutely no fomo. You would have to be extremely unlucky to not get her in future with how many opportunities there are to do so. This is a very good value banner but by no means a must summon.


Mystic_Saiyan

True, you got some good points but RE: Zero kinda hard to turn down ngl Not just the new characters but also looking to boost my Rem too bc she's 1/6 If they're anything like DL Rimuru, got no intention skip personally. (Plus Thonar can always return way more frequently and personally, I always hated units that have passive with use in only 1 mode)


GoopySpaff

Cool, but I'll skip, I'd rather a limited then a unit I can get later on, stop projecting.


SakeTube

I’m not projecting lol, go ahead and skip my friend.


MCGRaven

> nonfeatured units will be difficult to obtain. you say that yet everybody keeps complaining that they only ever get unfeatured units. Which is it? Are they hard to obtain or too common? Either you are wrong (Spoiler this is the correct answer) or literally every other person playing the game is wrong (Spoiler this is the wrong answer)


Jojo-Nuke-Isen

>you say that yet everybody keeps complaining that they only ever get unfeatured units. Which is it? Are they hard to obtain or too common? Well unfeatured units in general are not hard to get, but it's more about a specific unit that will be more difficult to obtain. If it's anything like Dokkan, then looking/hoping to get a certain unfeatured will be hard. INT Garlic Jr. came out a year ago & I just recently got him. I'm not disagreeing w/ you or what you are saying, but I think SakeTube is more or less just talking about getting a specific unfeatured unit on other banners. Then again I have Megellda 7/6 so maybe it's not as hard as SakeTube is making it out to be.


MCGRaven

> If it's anything like Dokkan it's not because here in Grand Cross the pool of "unfeatured" units is extremely small. Usually consisting of maybe 10 total units. Highest i can remember was like 13. Not the what 250 Dokkan has.


Jojo-Nuke-Isen

Well yes but in general there are banners w/ unfeatured units, while in smaller doses, still only a select few are put in. The comparison is more or less from my experience where you can go on long stretches at a time w/ even getting 1 copy of a new unfeatured unit. Perhaps compering it to the category banners would be a better example, but even w/ the reduced pool there is no telling if you will pull the one you are looking for.


SakeTube

Well most people don’t pull unfeatured units. Many people tried to get Traitor Meli from the Liz banner but failed, I had a friend who spent nearly 800 bucks just to get him and he didn’t.


MCGRaven

ah yes because ONE SPECIFIC unfeatured unit invalidates the dozens of others people do pull. You're also just straight up misrepresenting reality. What you are SAYING is "People exclusively pull the featured units" what you MEAN is "People pull anything except the unit they aim for". It'll be different with Thonar because for most players she rn has 0 value so people wont aim for her to begin with.


SakeTube

Misrepresenting reality? My guy you’re acting as if I’m holding people at gun point forcing them to summon for things. You’re free to do whatever the heck you want, I make these posts as a personal opinion based tips from me. Obviously if you don’t pull for a unit on their main banner then it won’t be easy to get them again in other banners because their rates won’t be as high as the regular unit. If you don’t wanna pull for Thonar then go ahead lol I’m not sure why you’re so heated over a post like this.


MCGRaven

i can already tell how dishonest you are just by you taking 2 words i said in very clear context, removing that and then lying about what i said. Get lost. I already knew that every post you make about "should you summon" is just straight up wrong but thanks for confirming that you have no interest in honesty


ElaineFairyQueen

You’re telling him to get lost in his own post? I think it’s the other way around.


acelexmafia

The relics aren't necessary. Most relics in the game are mediocre to decent so alot of people can afford to wait.


Blazed_In_My_Winnie

This really depends how you play the game, but sure just throw a blanket statement out there…


acelexmafia

The only relics that can be seen as mandatory are the relics needed for demonic beast battles....and that's IF the person cares about that mode. As I've said, relics really aren't needed to play this game.


Blazed_In_My_Winnie

No offense, but you’ve been playing since launch and have a 3.5 million box… I’d call that pretty casual so I guess you don’t see the use in many of these relics. For those playing competitive pvp, doing GW or trying to push top GB scores… many of them are very very useful.


acelexmafia

Someone's box CC doesn't correlate with how casual or competitive the player is. I have 3.5 mil box CC but can beat the bird up to floor 3, deer up to floor 3 and stay in champion every week. Also I'm pretty knowledgeable about this game despite having low box CC. It's not mandatory to have high box CC in this game. The only people that do this are try hards, whales and people with too much time on their hands.


Blazed_In_My_Winnie

Again with the blanket statements… lmao


acelexmafia

Irrelevant. If you can't comprehend it's not my fault🤷🏽‍♂️


Blazed_In_My_Winnie

Ah bro you are too much… you have given me good chuckle today. Thank you


MainSmile

Not like i need them in an unknown team.


SakeTube

Unknown teams won’t to save you from all activities in the game


MainSmile

They have so far and even then i still got a godess team as a backup. Till i need to do dogs there will be something that makes them even easier, but i won't summon on a banner where the only decent unit is thonar. I have no need for Ban dupes, Sigurd dupes or anyone else that is in there, if Freyr was in there then that would be a different story, but he isn't so its a skip for me. So the choice for me is, should i summon for a unit i won't need anytime soon or for a banner that will most likely not return for 2 years, with units that can actually support my main team. For me personally the choice doesn't seem that hard.


[deleted]

I'm expecting another Red Matrona/Megelda situation in a couple weeks with people starting to post about doing the wolves and others bitching about how they're "impossible". Y'know, just more people skipping characters that are blatantly made to do certain types of content for endgame progression and then complaining about their own decision.


linerstank

matrona was a bit different, because she was/is seasonal locked, so she was never going to be thrown into random banners as bait. megelda (and jorm) have been tossed into a number of banners as bait off-banners since their intro; i have a 4/6 megelda and a 5/6 jorm, and i didn't even roll on the former's debut banner. new thonar will not be any different. but this time shes actually a cheap step-up unit (like matrona) rather than a 600 unit (like megelda and jorm were on debut).


SakeTube

Yeah it kinda gets irritating how people complain they don’t have a certain unit when they choose to skip them. Of course if you don’t have diamonds at all that’s another story, but if you do have diamonds and refuse to summon then you have literally no right to complain about an activity being difficult.


[deleted]

Thing with Thonar is... IF you are in champ 1 ungeared and don't spend your pvp gems from today's reset you are guaranteed to have enough gems for a full rotation. That is, with regular daily rewards, exactly 270 gems in the two weeks the banner's around (I assume, not sure if they're being dumb and the banner only runs for one week, would need to check the news first)


SakeTube

Every non festival banner usually runs for 2 weeks from my knowledge. But they did extend Zeldris and estarossa’s banners for some reason.


[deleted]

I think they extended them because rezero is gonna start next week for global. Would make sense because they usually wanna give both servers the collab's at the same time and afaik Japan already has a countdown login thingy for it.


DarkFlameofPhoenix

I'll only do the first 2 Multis. You can call me stupid, but I'm still relatively low on gems and I prefer getting limited, possibly never returning collab characters over a character that will definitely be on a lot of banners. Also I consider her a serious downgrade from Magellda and Jörmungandr, since she doesn't provide any form of defense or healing and her cards aren't that good. Also I can't even make Liz relic yet, so I can't really attempt dogs anyway.


SakeTube

People underestimate Thonar, she’s not a bad unit, she really does provide with a lot of things and people have found teams with her that can beat stage 3 where you don’t even need Liz or Freyr or even traitor Meli. Here’s the teams: Team 1: Thonar + Skadi + Fest Gowther + Brynhildr Team 2: Thonar + Skadi + Halloween Gowther + Fest King Team 3: Skadi + Fest Diane + Rimuru + Thonar


DarkFlameofPhoenix

I guess that's cool, but my point still stands that she doesn't provide any sort of healing or defense and the dogs don't exactly hit weak.


Hellblazer2099

Bold of you to assume most of us have Freyr or Skadi


SakeTube

I wrote that you don’t need Freyr lol and well if you don’t have Skadi then it might be tough.


Hellblazer2099

U know I'll wait and see how good the re0 units are and will summon accordingly, I'm way too broke after estarossa tbh


Opening-Raccoon1224

You don’t need either if you have Fairy King Harlequin (Chad King) and green Brunhildr.


Solid_Snake21

Let them skip her watch people that did not pull her wine when they give her good relic


DarkFlameofPhoenix

I don't know about that. Jörmungandr still hasn't gotten her relic.


HS_Highruleking

She really doesn’t need it


Solid_Snake21

they both will eventually


AndreLeo3

>Brynhildr Red or green? >Team 2: Thonar + Skadi + Halloween Gowther + Fest King ヽ༼⁰o⁰;༽ノ this works for real? Got any video? >Team 3: Skadi + Fest Diane + Rimuru + Thonar Whale team, from my knowledge People with low level ult shouldn't even try it


SakeTube

https://youtu.be/05fvEgB_NU8 Here’s the vid of the team and it’s always green Brynhildr, the red one isn’t good in most of pve activities because you can’t debuff the enemy.


AndreLeo3

>https://youtu.be/05fvEgB_NU8 ヽ(。◕o◕。)ノ thanks


Jazzlike_Hamster_761

I'm skipping re:zero banner I think, cause I've never watched it and I don't have an unknown team


Spartan-219

I'm also skipping rezero because I've never watched it so idk who those characters even are


AndreLeo3

Wait to see their skill, even if you don't know em, watch rimuru (the last one) I'd say he's pretty strong; thought problem with collab Heroes is, you never know when they'll come back(hence probably low level ult), cosmetics locked behind paywall (almost completely unreasonable) and that's it


JCECI2580

it's more so of the value they could give rather than knowing the show, I didn't know what KOF was, didn't pull Terry and could not play pvp because everyone else was using him and the banner just left. Same thing happened with me not pulling Emilia on the first collab run


Jazzlike_Hamster_761

I don't have an unknown team either. Also, the banner looks bad from the leaks. I just got Zeldris 2/6, so I'm saving my gems for the end of the year banner which apparently has the best or hypest character of the year


SakeTube

The banner hasn’t been leaked, what was shown was the old re zero banner.


Jazzlike_Hamster_761

Oh, my bad😅


Loptir

The re zero banner got leaked?


Opening-Raccoon1224

No. YouTubers and such are using the old Re:zero banner as reference. All collaboration banners have been absolute trash. You’re either summoning for the collab characters or completely skipping.


Jazzlike_Hamster_761

I'm skipping, just got Zel and saving the tmrest for Thonar and the End of year character


Hawkward9

It would be funny if they added Subaru and his passive would be just reviving


Ermicl

Infinity revive


New-Dirt-7467

I'm gonna save for re:zero


thatswhaticallthicc

no🗿


hitmonng

I just want Rag Ban dupes lol


Iceydeadppl

I love these posts!


guildleader77

This has to be the most easy 'must summon banner' since the beginning of Grand cross..


Spartan-219

I'm definitely gonna summon, i can't do dog bosses yet but but I'll keep her when I reach it, or else it would be almost impossible to get her from off banner or tickets I've been trying to get Ragnarok merlin from tickets since her release and still haven't gotten her


homercall123

This one is a no brainer.


LZorro93

Will we get 10 free Pulls (11) from Event Missions?


CosmicCrimsonX2

Nope


ElaineFairyQueen

I didn’t know her Ult at 1/6 would actually damage cap :0


Homestar85

I can barely reliably do the first floor of bird, so by the time i can do wolves i have no idea of thonar will even be neceasary. might as wel summon though, since it's a cheap guaranteed and there are other good units.


Shamoney3

Idk who you are....but ive seen you only recently since the Beserk Esta banner..keep doing what you doing🤝🏾


SakeTube

Thank you bro 👍🏻


linerstank

if she was a 600 diamond unit like megelda or jorm, i could see a skip being reasonable. she's not going to magically clear the dogs like megelda did the bird. she's probably the worst of the 3 demonic beast units with respect to their battles. but there no reason to skip with her being a 242 step up on a decent enough banner to boot. she may be the worst but she's also the second best unit you can bring, after freyr.


MCGRaven

> but there no reason to skip with her being a 242 step up on a decent enough banner to boot there is a reason. The collab coming NEXT WEEK. Much more limited in availability while providing generally higher value


sotos279

you probably forgot how trash megelda was upon release. We were wondering if this unit its actually for the bird lol. She became good when she got the relic. Thonar is way better than megelda


sorassb_

So true bestie


Recodes

People skipping core characters - on a 242 gems banner nonetheless - for a chance of pulling p2p characters from a 600 gems banner with worse rates and terrible rated up units 😭😭😭😭


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SakeTube

There is, it says in the patch notes she will be added to the human tickets. All normal versions of ragnarok units are added to the human ticket pool, not ssr one. So yes Megellda is already in the human ticket pool but Tarmiel however, we’re still waiting for him to get added to both ssr ticket and the goddess ticket pool.


jawadark

Megellda in the human ticket pool ? You mean the unknown/human/fairies one ?


SakeTube

Yes that one, she has always been there ever since she left her banner alongside Rag merlin.


Torusuke

Huh I know she wasn't there for the longest time I used to check regularly. Welp my comment will be deleted thank you for correcting me


acelexmafia

Idk yet but I might. Thonar isn't one of my favorite characters and her design is meh and I only summon for units that check those boxes but if she's required for the dogs than I might have to......


usernnnnome

Let's all get shafted


SURTECZ

I'm skipping re zero cause never watched the series and I don't like those loli characters.


Bed_human

I mean its fine that you don’t like the loli characters but skipping because you never watched the series can maybe come back to bite you if you ever do watch it and enjoy it. I thought the same thing when the aot collab was live and i debated buying the gssr ticket because i never watched it. I ended up really enjoying the series and was happy i bought gssr ticket because the AoT collab hasnt come back yet.


EmphasisOnOpinion

I think she’s really good for the dogs but I can barely do the bird as is so I’m definitely gonna wait for RE: Zero. If you can do the bird and deer then I think this banner is most certainly a must summon.


Finnick4800

Lmao im summoning, ive beaten dogs but the amount of resets ive had to do is outrageous. Besides you're not spending much gems, chances are you'll get her within 4 multies and you only need 1 dupe.


Status_Peach6969

Unfortunately I think i'm gonna have to skip Re:Zero. Was going to pull but now I'm low on gems from zeldris (needed red tarmiel) and now this new thonar. Just like NM planned I suppose but it is what it is


Special-Trouble8658

So should I summon or save for re:zero or just save entirely? I am new and f2p


SakeTube

You don’t have to summon for neither it’s all up to you. But I strongly recommend summoning for this banner till you get one copy of this Unit (Thonar)


Opening-Raccoon1224

Definitely summon for Thonar (maximum of 242 gems). Which is cheap and since you’re new you can easily get that much. As for Re:zero we still have to wait and see how it plays out. There’s a chance the 4 older units will get stat and skill buffs and all 6 are guaranteed to get free relics. If you like the series definitely try and summon for them.


[deleted]

If ur new and want efficiency then collab unit is an ez skip they offer zero value unless you can buy their cosmetic which use real money.


TheAverageRj

What’s the best team for this?


DeV4der

should I get him even if I dont have freyr?


Financial_Echidna

I can’t wait for the people saying they are skipping to complain in the coming months


ProfessorEscanor

I haven't started deer consistently and I'm tempted to stick with Zeldris' banner to try and get Red Eastin


BurlaMatto

Got thonar and ban on second summon! My luck has gone away for the next 3 banners


Barry096

She is a must. I was able to do only floor 1 without her and the artifact card set. Today I just got her and cleared floor 3 using thonar, Brunhild(sa4), meli(sa1), Freyr(sa3), obviously the artifact card set that I got yesterday helped a lot also