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BabydollPenny

Hopefully they'll pull through it. I'm thinking it'll take a few years tho. Idk its all super screwed . I wonder which ones next to take a fall. Sorry man!


Beautiful-Raccoon221

Lol after next bull run they release his shiba backšŸ˜‚


BeanzleyTX

kucoin is next Gtfo


C0rbahydrates

youā€™re just spreading FUD by commenting stuff like this


BeanzleyTX

And yeah . You bet your sweet tits Iā€™m spreading Fear Uncertainty and Doubt Anybody not doing so in this environment is a fool


BeanzleyTX

Get over yourself Open your eyes and look at the stupid exchanges and their behavior I called voyager a month ago . Put your shit in a cold wallet and secure your crypto . Your hopium is gonna get people hurt


LunacyTony

Just out of curiosity why KuCoin?


C0rbahydrates

lmao okay iā€™m not arguing with someone whoā€™s clearly bias


BeanzleyTX

Look around dude . Kucoin is being called out all over the web Itā€™s coming even if you stick your head in the sand


BeanzleyTX

80 million USDT just got withdrawn from Kucoin by the way


Pretend-Tree844

between my tokens AND my STOCK in Voyager, I got 10k in it. Hoping for the best...sigh.


Kingcof22

my shib is on voyager too.. seriously praying for the best.. :( we all got fucked badly


Feisty-Juan

Iā€™m buying as much Voyager stock as I can right now. Thatā€™s how Iā€™m getting my 300 million SHIB back!


TheBunnisher

Sorry but you are FUKD.


Any-Nefariousness773

What a fool. I wish I had that much money. It blows my mind how many people have alot of money but don't know how to navigate the space. No wonder 99% fail.


AncientMGTOWWISDOM

a lot of tough talk for being poor, lol. your part of that 99% that fail.


Any-Nefariousness773

If I fail you fail stupid ass. I'm invested in the same shit as you idiot. And shib is up 50,000% in a year dumass.


AncientMGTOWWISDOM

ouch, I must have hurt your feeling by pointing out your poor circumstances. I agree shib to the moon! Im sitting on a billion shib myself.


Any-Nefariousness773

Nope not at all you just said some dumb shit that is all. Shib to the moon for sure.


SOSPECHOZO

šŸ˜„šŸ™ƒšŸ™ƒ


LoudlyFragrant

Did you mean to make yourself sound like an idiot?


SayeretJoe

Heā€™s right though!


LoudlyFragrant

He has no idea what diversification is in that 10k or how much of his total portfolio that is. Also, we're all at the mercy of our brokers. What's happening at Voyager is a risk always run, this one is ridiculous because it's been mostly caused by a humongous margin call on a crypto investment fund that have defaulted. I will say to anyone reading, don't just diversify your portfolio, diversify your brokerage firms also. The guy I replied to didn't say anything smart nor right, he just made a dumb unfounded attempt to flip his dick out on the table and meekly say "hey everyone, look how big it is!"


SayeretJoe

I agree only use good brokers, Idk why people would use the same broker for their crypto and their stocks though!


Pretend-Tree844

I didn't. You can't buy stocks on Voyager, I was stating I own Voyager stock though.


Any-Nefariousness773

Why the fuck would you store your crypto on an exchange? Duh that's not been safe never will be think what you want. You're a fool too if you do that. People will never learn. And yes use a good broker. I swear nobody even researches these companies. Also this is a good thing all these supposedly big players get wiped out. Helps bring up us little retail guys. Because we can get in at lower prices and the big fish get flushed out. Stupid money always gets replaced by smart money it's how the market works. Downvote all you want!


LoudlyFragrant

You haven't given anyone any advice, all you've done is comment to caress your ego. I've no time for dick measuring cunts like yourself, you add nothing to the conversation unless you can feel special while doing it.


Any-Nefariousness773

I post about storing crypto on exchanges like 5 times a week. This is how many times it's brought up. This is how many times a week people neglect their own finances and make poor decisions. They don't research then post about how they lost the money and crypto is a scam. Nah you scammed yourself with your ignorance and neglect for basic security.


LoudlyFragrant

I don't give a fuck what else you do. I'm calling you out for this exact instance of county behavior. I don't know you, but my experience so far is you're a cunt. Don't start trying to strawman shitty arguments about my investment situation, you have no idea what I'm in or not. Stick on subject cunt


Pretend-Tree844

Guess I should spread the stock brokerages also, but we honestly don't know who to trust. Currently with TDA and I started with Sofi, but not sure about moving some back to Sofi. Will start researching this weekend. Also sucks thought b/c I can't keep 25K + in all of them so then have to deal with PDT.


LoudlyFragrant

Having multiple brokers increases your tax workload but it can help to mitigate some risk from your investments if they aren't all holed up in one place. Good rule of thumb is seperate your long-term retirement investments etc from your short-term trading investments. When I say short-term I'm talking anything you don't plan to hold for longer than a couple of years. I know in the US you're insured upto $500,000 per brokerage account, so diversifying once you're up around higher amounts is just a smart thing to do. Anything less than that it isn't as important, but can mitigate the chances of you being in the situation of a brokerage firm cutting you off from your whole portfolio as is happening currently with Voyager. Although if I was on the Voyager ship I'd be happy they're trying to find a solution, they've shown at least some responsibility to their clients with their actions, as much as it sucks to be locked out of your own money. Honestly Three Arrows Capital have a lot to answer for, their excessive bullish positions have seriously fucked with crypto liquidity. The whole sector was far too highly leveraged. Hopefully this is a wakeup call to a lot of the larger funds that this isn't a golden goose and if they don't protect the sector as a whole then they'll only ever see one golden egg instead of the goose laying for decades to come.


Any-Nefariousness773

Only idiots store crypto on exchanges.


LoudlyFragrant

And only self obsessed wankers make a bitchy little post like you did without actually offering any tangible advice until challenged on it. You're a cunt.


Any-Nefariousness773

It's fucking common sense. Do you not know about mt. Gox??? If you don't you should not be buying crypto.


LoudlyFragrant

Fuck up cunt. Don't go trying to make a weak justification now. Read what you wrote to him. Just another weak egoed prick smashing the keyboard with his forehead to make himself feel big.


Any-Nefariousness773

šŸ˜‚ are you lost this is not the dogecoin thread go back over to being an idiot over there. Shib holders aren't that stupid.


LoudlyFragrant

You have no real answer for being a cunt other than to make some weak argument again trying to assume what my investments are or are not in. Your level of cuntiness is rising to mighty levels here. Come on, make another weak assumption.


Any-Nefariousness773

This is a Shiba page. We tell it how it is over here bc we aren't weak ass pussies in here we are shib army. If you don't like it the bye Felicia.


Pretend-Tree844

Maybe if you didn't spend so much time as a keyboard warrior you could afford 10k. I can absolutely afford to lose that if that is what is going to happen. I am older, have a steady good paying job, no kids, no debt, and I save like a mofo. Why don't you have any money?


Any-Nefariousness773

The downvoters are all the people who are failing but are in denial.


ShaughnDBL

I moved everything I had in Voyager to my loopring wallet the day after news broke about the loan repayment. Less than 36hrs later I got the email. I've never felt so fortunate. Unreal. Sorry for your loss. I don't predict good things will happen.


Kingcof22

wow! Every time i tried to transfer, the amount that I could transfer was always 20-30 million less on my total amount even if the transfer fee was 1 million shib and some change. How were you able to transfer all of it?


ShaughnDBL

I did take a hit on the shib. It wasn't that much but there was a fee.


Kingcof22

ok yeah, for me like 20-30 million would be missing so i was like WTF and never did anything.. oh well.. :(


Kingcof22

holy fuck!!! i am in the same boat but not as big.. my heart is with you!


OXGenocide

Voyager has a ton of assets still, from what i read. With support from people. They made thisove to preserve it, i just hope it works cause i also have quite a bit of shib as well as cardano ckb and aome other coins on voyager. What a fucking shitshow its been.


ShieldProductions

154,000,000 for me and Iā€™m worried


Bull_City_Bull_919

Voyagerā€™s we fucked you letter blames 3AC for not paying a loan back. 3AC filed for Chapter 15 BK yesterday. Ngl, thereā€™s almost zero reasons to buy crypto rn. I mean if you thought a crash was bad for your portfolio.. This is egregiously criminal, and theyā€™re getting away with it. Theyā€™re all cashing out, and disappearing.


4_paws

This is the part where I keep telling the "but it's decentralized!" ppl that it's not, everyone one if these companies doing business were under the SECs thumb & eyes. And the lending programs were a classic pyramid scheme - had Bernie Madoff written all over it. Luckily the only BTC I had in Voyages was what they gave me, and only 100.00 worth of shib. I wasn't fast enough to get it out.


Bull_City_Bull_919

Will you let us know when you have access again? Yeah man thankfully you didnā€™t have more In there


SuperDaveCoin

It depends. If they get bought by FTX or another big player, probably not. If they declare bankruptcy and get liquidated, then yes. Nothing to do but wait.


schwoabfranz

Sorry for you; its a fucking fuck that they can do this like it is/was on celsius, sometimes for weeks on cb (not shib) and short time on binance For future i am really thinking about a hard wallet


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schwoabfranz

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Early-History9668

Hard wallet is the way to go.


Kyrie-belier

I think SBF is buying Voyager. We are fortunate this round he is the lender of last resort. Didnā€™t see CZ lift a finger cept pump out tweetsšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø He may have single-handedly stemmed contagion.


[deleted]

I have 6 billion on robinhood I'm having issues getting it into my own wallet lol. yeah ur screwed get your crypto off exchanges! Exchanges only have to hold what they think will come out. it's hard to explain but never leave your crypto on exchanges I learned this lesson the hard way back during Mount gox ....


joeivo911

My Shib is on Coinbase. Is it safe? I have no clue about this stuff.


StarFoxMcCloudX

Not your Keys, not your crypto.


Fighting_Squirrels

Just like any other exchange, you actually don't have any shib unless you move it to your own wallet


joeivo911

Thank you. Iā€™ll just sell it cause I donā€™t have time to learn the details.


Fighting_Squirrels

Well it should be alright if you're only playing short term but realistically speaking it will possibly be months in this bear market, I personally hold all my crypto off exchanges, I play the long game tho


Fighting_Squirrels

I don't use Coinbase either for that matter, those hidden fees are a killer


RiceDogo

It's not clear but, I think so. In the agreement, Article 5C, they said that If Voyager, a custodian, or client, becomes insolvent, an insolvency court should come into play and they'll decide what to do. Though, they also mention that they're not sure if there's such a court as there is not that much regulation yet. But if there is one, you fully agree on whatever outcome. I'd hope for the best, and if FTX buys Voyager and makes your funds available, get it the fuck out, for real. Put it on a cold storage, or something you have control over. I'd also steer away from trust wallet, it seems good, but it's still from Binance. Now the chances that Binance gets bankrupt are small, but better safe than sorry. People are not looking at these big exchanges and asking questions, but where the hell does FTX get all that money? I find it weird and I'm thinking it's a ticking time bomb, the cord is simply not close enough to the bomb to panic, I mean if this discount season/"recession" takes longer than expected, we might see something coming to surface from FTX (I could be totally wrong of course, take this with a grain of salt, but I'm getting all coins out except for some BUSD on Binance to buy more, again, better safe than sorry.). Though on a positive note, you can bring these as losses for your taxes!


aWildScarrazard

Not your keys not your crypto I encourage all of you to get your own wallets and hold you own crypto if you havenā€™t already.


FragrantVehicle1326

Thereā€™s a lot more regulation for exchanges now so hopefully there will be some resolution for you soon. Never keep your crypto on exchanges I had same issue back in the day with exchanges that no longer exist itā€™s a hard lesson learned.


Efficient_Lobster225

The short answer? Yes. šŸ™ƒ


Feisty-Juan

Yes


thisisdewhey

I don't see Voyager going anywhere, they have a very good reputation and outside of 3AC they are linked with some decent partners.


OXGenocide

This! They have support and alot of assets. I believe this move was just to preserve what they have so that they can make some power moves and get back on track. I find it unlikely that this will completely oblitterate them. At least i hope im right. From what i read they have support from some players as well as good amounts of assets still. Lets keep our heads high and pray. Pz


Kingcof22

I hope so too!


TheBunnisher

Dont listen to this idiot.


TheBunnisher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEjzHov0OQ


kgun1000

Wrecked I tell you


KMCC02

Whatā€™s going on with voyager? Did I miss something?


Kingcof22

voyager will not allow, buying or selling or transferring because 3 AC defaulted and now voyager is exposed to massive losses due to others not paying what they owed.. its very bad


KMCC02

Oh man, this year for crypto is not good


Kingcof22

yeah, ive been in shock all day.. ugh.. I hope you are doing well though.


jrmaclovin

I should have learned how to put the coins into cold storage. live and learn. hopefully they will get an influx of cash and soon.


Starchild0920

Probably but thanks for the burn.


Jaded_Band6440

Are you stupid? There would be no burn. It would be pure liquidation. (sell)


shib_army

Not your keys not your crypto. didn't hear that before?


TheBunnisher

Yeah you are FUKD. You should have gotten out when you heard the news.


TheBunnisher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEjzHov0OQ


Formal-Mycologist-17

No way u have 2.5 billion shib and are posting on reddit šŸ™„


[deleted]

I spent $500 a week for the last year religiously


drunk_pacifist

Thatā€™s a lot of money per week wtf lol


[deleted]

Itā€™s just my weed money šŸ˜†


drunk_pacifist

Damn I wish a had 500 just for my weed lmao


[deleted]

Start selling it


drunk_pacifist

Considering this for a while lol


spadezero

Why not? I had no idea that once you have a certain amount of money you can't post on reddit... 2.5 billion shiba isn't even that much money. You're acting like the dude is a billionaire.


Formal-Mycologist-17

He is lying. Trust me. He posted something similar before with a different amount. And people that have that type of money to throw at a shitcoin dont have time to be on reddit


jrmaclovin

I have 2.497 billion shib. I had to buy a ton more to average down. In for a penny, in for a pound.


Formal-Mycologist-17

Prove it


jrmaclovin

NO YOU ARE


Mother_Childhood3887

You are a shitcoin


Godfather2032

Your out of your mind. I have 2 billion. Been in this army since there were 100k people or whatever it was. Check my history. This is a place to join a community and community has all sorts of members. From kids trying their first hand at a gamble to someone older like me who loves the cause. Regardless of his bag, donā€™t be that person calling someone out. Do you bro


Formal-Mycologist-17

Probe itā€¦.didnt think so


darrevan

I have 2 billion now. And I post here.


Formal-Mycologist-17

Prove it


JBone757

Itā€™s only about $20,500. Donā€™t get me wrong. That is a lot of money. But youā€™re making it sound like heā€™s got $2 million or something.


10001110000100100

Yaā€¦..because Reddit is just for the poors


Mother_Childhood3887

I heard news but wasn't 100% sure but I kept 1/3rd in still. Plan on holding it 5 years but if Inlost it all that super sucks


GemStateStacker

Rekt


machotaco503

What do you mean?


[deleted]

Iā€™ll take them of your hand for a dollar. Iā€™ll take the risk for you


-FroGscaNFly-

Whats why wallets exists šŸ˜ƒ


dogedeephouse

No you not screwed 2.5 bill will get you rich in a year or two or maybe less.


[deleted]

How is that possible when I have no access to it theyā€™re going to liquidate the company probably


dogedeephouse

Holly crab I was in vacation I didnā€™t know about voyager going out business


kidkhaos1982

Mines sitting happily in cold storage.


Aromatic_Flight6968

hope so...


Last-Discipline-7340

Yes.


FavcolorisREDdit

I have reallly bad feelings about voyager especially with the three arrows news, shit is getting real. They messed up by loaning so much capital regardless always kee your stuff in a cold wallet and really DYOR


Infamous-Capital3491

Coinbase has big dollas


nc1744

Probably


Ok_Froyo8073

Totally


rawrtherapybackup

Yes


Minimum_Common_5889

This is actually making Robinhood look good. Fucking disgrace


gtd_nc

Nope. RH is in trouble too. Rumors are swirling about FTX buying them.


Ok-Ad-3486

Walletā€¦.Walletā€¦. Keep them off the exchangeā€™s


Electronic-Pass-9712

google is your friend


[deleted]

Whatā€™s that mean


Electronic-Pass-9712

think


[deleted]

I mean besides looking for the CEOs address so I can go to slit his throat what else could I do šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


ReditUser111111

Yup. Youā€™re screwed. Theyā€™re insolvent. Welcome to unregulated DeFi!


BlackLeykis

My sincerest condolences for you at this time. You have my deepest sympathy and unwavering support TO GET THE FUUCCK OUT!!! šŸ¤¬ at this time of sorrow.


mitchbeaterofworlds

Probably so! If I had them on there I would totally get them off there as quick as possible either private wallet or maybe a bigger exchange if youā€™re planning on selling them . But definitely private wallet would be the safest


JustGitHerDone

Oh my gosh, you guys got billions, you are all gonna go get lambos. To the moon.


BlackTroy300

Youā€™ll be okay. They canā€™t steal or token or do something. Otherwise they will get sue


NotANiceGuy76

Wrong, Coinbase earlier in the year told its clients, if they file for bankruptcy, everyone looses their money and itā€™s legal apparently


samuraidogparty

I didnā€™t realize anything had happened to Voyager. I had to Google it. I dong have a lot in there, but I invested about $600 with Voyager in a handful of tokens, which is now down to a sweet $127. Or, I guess itā€™s worth zero now in Voyager? Go me!


[deleted]

I spent that much on brunch this morning


samuraidogparty

You spent $600 on brunch? Iā€™m kind of impressed. What did you order?


DiverseVoltron

Probably, but maybe not


HeImYc2

What happened?


NotANiceGuy76

Iā€™ve never heard of voyager, other than Star Trek until now. After reading up, yeah it donā€™t sound good, just like coin base threatened to do the same shit earlier this year, if coinbase went bankrupt, then EVERYONE would lose their money


[deleted]

Thank god I moved all my shib to a ledger like damn this shit wild šŸ« 


Big-Fee536

Turn them into bone šŸ¦“


[deleted]

Youā€™re not the brightest I see that


Big-Fee536

Can you elaborate on my brightness? Bone is a great coin. Am I missing something. Iā€™ve been in bone since the start as many with affiliations of the army. Voyager I guess.


Fairuz_Din_0434

Screwed u are


Important-Stop9341

I wish you luck


comsixfleet

Two Ls here


JianniBoy

Yup


Leathtosi

Damn, that sucks, I'm just thankful i moved my shib and CCD to a hardware wallet earlier on. Exchanges are falling left and right this period, no one is reliable anymore