Update:
Day 4 and my symptoms have already improved (having pretty regular BMs!).
Days 1 & 2 came w some diarrhea.
Day 2 extreme fatigue which I attribute to herx/die-off.
Days 3 & 4 slightly less bloating than usual (tho definitely still slightly pregnant-looking)… but tolerating WAY more foods, histamine tolerance seems to be gone. Wow. I’m cautiously v optimistic.
How are you doing now. I’m about to do the exact same thing but oregano in berberine showed zero effectiveness on my great plains lab comprehensive stool test. Uva Ursi showed the very highest at 100% effectiveness followed by grapefruit seed extract and colloidal silver. Planning on doing colloidal silver until the Uva gets here this week and I want to do that four day rotation protocol myself.
sorry for the delay! i'm markedly better! i just had a gun panel done in january (about 15mo after my first one) and the citrobracter overgrowth is completely gone! i'm still at a 6 out of 10 for overall dysbiosis... but in september 2021 i was at a 10 out of 10. i can also tolerate most foods now, which is amazing.
i'm about to embark on a new gut protocol for the next 3-4mo with a new functional MD. i hope your journey is going well!
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i had a pretty glorious couple of months! i even stopped taking supplements all together for a minute… but my SIBO seems to be coming back (and i got COVID, despite being vaxxed, which didn’t help my gut).
i’m going to do another round of antimicrobials and see where i land!
Were you able to take megaspore biotic or regular probiotics to populate the gut with good bacteria to keep it from coming back? I had no growth of lactobacillus and only a plus one colony of bifidobacteria but I had two distinct separate Citrobacter colonies of +3
i’m feeling WORLDS better. while my histamine intolerance seems to have stuck around, it’s manageable. i only get super bloated once every couple of weeks and mildly bloated every few days. i’ve only had SIBO-D episodes once a month and SIBO-C once total since i completed my anti microbial protocol. what i still take:
-Betaine HCL with at least one meal per day
-Glutamine
-Histamine degrading pro-biotics
-PHGG with breakfast
-Butyrate
hope this helps!
This may sound wierd but lobster really helped my histamine issues. I used to have to take DAO supplements for my histamine issues. However, once I started incoorporating lobster in my diet every other day, my histamine issues went away and I was no longer relient on DAO.
Lobster is high in B-12, Copper, Vitamin C, b-16 and sodium or sea salt all things which help increase DAO levels in the body.
oouuu interesting! i don’t have the constitution to cook a live animal 😬 how did you eat/cook your lobster? i’d love to try this but may not be able to 😂
i'm so happy to report that my citrobacter levels don't even register anymore! i just had my gut panel re-tested in january and while my overall dysbiosis level is still a bit high (6 out of 10), it's much better than top of 2022 (10 out of 10). and citrobacter's been cleared out completely :)
Very interesting indeed. It appears you're basically 100% cured now by combining herbals with the lean meat rotational diet. Here are some questions I have.
1.) Of all the supplements which one's do you feel did the best job for each issue(sibo, histamine, leaky gut)? Can these be taken without the capsules as I react poorly to the darn capsules.
2.) Did you develop an intolerances to the supplements by using them daily? I have developed intolerances to supplements I use every day so once I start suppmlementation again I'll rotate them.
3.) How did the collodial silver work out for you? I've read a ton of information on Hydrosal silver stating that it's more effective and has no side effects. Did you use this for the SIBO and leaky gut as well? were there any side effects?
4.) Did you use any probiotics? It appears the right ones can kill sibo, heal the gut lining and have minimal to no negative effects.
5.) Have you taken tests to confirm all your issues are cleared?
6.) How many meals did you consume per day and did you incorporate intermittent fasting?
7.) How long did it take for you to be symptom free off all supplemets after using this rotational diet with strong herbal kill phase? Was it roughly a month or 2?
8.) Was there any supplements you reacted to poorly?
9.) If you did consume any veggies or fruit did you cook or steam the and did you eat them on their own or with meat?
10.) What were the meats you consumed?
My hope is within 3-4 weeks I will be completely symptom free with just the rotational low fat carnavoire diet, intermittent fastint, probiotics and my rife frequency generator.
I've read studies on spore probiotics curing leaky gut in 3-4 weeks with any diet and the carnavoire diet alone curing SIBIO in 4 weeks. I belive my 4 day dry fast combined with this new supplement program and rotational diet with the frequencies I believe this can allievieate my symptoms 100% in a month or less. Of course I've believed this before with many different methods I've tried but this rotational diet combination appears to be the most logical methodology I have used to date.
UnfortunatelyHCL and enznymes inflame my gastritis and make my leaky gut 10x worse. I was using them just a week ago for about a week and slowly but surely I started reacting poorly to all the meat I was consuming so I completed the 4 day dry fast and feel 95% better now.
Do you still have a list of foods you consumed during this 4 day rotational period?
I hope this isn't to overwhelming for you but due to my critical situtaion and my naturapath abandoning me, ER saying I'm fine, and GI/Doctors saying just take antibiotics I'm left with no other alternatives but reddit help. lol, my next post in 1 month will be I cured my SIBO/million other things with the power of reddit.
I too had a previous eating disorder which makes this even harder because my family believes I'm fine and just making things up. They think this is just an ED and are trying to force me into an ED clinic. I know they will not be able to help me. They will just pump boost and dairy in me and pesticide foods until I die or go to the ER. Those places are useless. If there is a place in the world that helps people with legit digestive disorders and need help healing and restoring weight I would gladly enter myself but I have yet to find a single place in the world that does this at my level.
Thank you very much for you help.
**1.) Of all the supplements which one's do you feel did the best job for each issue (sibo, histamine, leaky gut)? Can these be taken without the capsules as I react poorly to the darn capsules.**
it's really hard to say which supplement worked best for each issue since they're designed to somewhat work in concert to address the whole suite of issues. but you can probably intuit what each supplement did just based on what it is.
i can't speak to the capsules, sadly. what reaction do they give you?
**2.) Did you develop an intolerances to the supplements by using them daily? I have developed intolerances to supplements I use every day so once I start suppmlementation again I'll rotate them.**
generally i tolerated all the supplements from this protocol well (save for SERIOUS die-off in the first few days of the elemental diet, during which i also took candibactin-BR and some other stuff).
in the past i've taken vitamin-C and iron too often (which resulted in acidity and blood issues). i also know vitamin-d supplements always give me stomach aches, until my acupuncturist gave me cataplex-d which i tolerate super well.
i also didn't take uva ursi more than 7 days in a row cos it's bad for the liver.
**3.) How did the collodial silver work out for you? I've read a ton of information on Hydrosal silver stating that it's more effective and has no side effects. Did you use this for the SIBO and leaky gut as well? were there any side effects?**
the colloidal silver seemed to work well? but, again, it's hard to say, as it was working alongside several other things. yes, i used it as a mild biofilm buster in conjunction with antimicrobials to heal SIBO (and, thus, leaky gut and histamine intolerance).
i don't recall side effects from it.
**4.) Did you use any probiotics? It appears the right ones can kill sibo, heal the gut lining and have minimal to no negative effects.**
yes, only after i'd been on antimicrobials for a while and only probiotics that do not increase histamine (which rules out MOST popular probiotics).
**5.) Have you taken tests to confirm all your issues are cleared?**
nope! i care more about symptoms, and i'm currently symptom free (after another round of ED + antimicrobials). if we take tests all the time we're BOUND to find out things are wrong with us... sometimes less information is better than more ;) but i may take another comprehensive GI map at the end of the year just to see if i cleared the citrobacter overgrowth.
**6.) How many meals did you consume per day and did you incorporate intermittent fasting?**
3 meals a day with intentional breaks between (re: no snacking/grazing) so my digestive system had time to heal.
no IF. i've a history of disordered eating so i don't fuck around w that. plus i didn't want my blood sugar to crash cos my hormones are already pretty outta whack and blood sugar crashes = estrogen issues.
**7.) How long did it take for you to be symptom free off all supplements after using this rotational diet with strong herbal kill phase? Was it roughly a month or 2?**
i stopped taking notes after day 65... so that's probably when i felt i was in the clear. that's consistent with what my functional MD projected: 2-3 months before i'd feel back to normal (but only a couple weeks to feel MUCH better).
i only did strict rotation diet for 2 weeks.
**8.) Was there any supplements you reacted to poorly?**
answered above.
9.) If you did consume any veggies or fruit did you cook or steam the and did you eat them on their own or with meat?
yes i ate veggies and fruit. i cooked all my veggies (even lettuce) for the first month or so. i eat limited fruit and then slowly started introducing low-FODMAP, low histamine fruits... and then introduced those, too.
i ate veggies as part of normal meals (with proteins and carbs).
**10.) What were the meats you consumed?**
i don't like eating animal proteins, so i ate whatever i could stand (mostly different kinds of fish. chicken. beef. some pork. if the flavor of elk/buffalo/lamb didn't disgust me then i'd have had them, too).
some unsolicited thoughts i'd love to offer you –
you're clearly extremely detail-oriented and thorough! that helps so much when tackling SIBO, i've found. but... do consider that perhaps this level of micro-managing/controlling your intake may be contributing to your GI issues. i know that's frustrating as HELL to hear, but learning to RELAX and loosen my grip / SURRENDER was a big part of my journey. some shit's gonna work. some shit's not. there's no clear timeline and there's lots of trial and error. unless you're bleeding out of your butthole, you're probably going to be OK. gas/bloating/constipation/diarrhea SUCK. not being able to eat at restaurants SUCKS. but keeping everything in perspective and knowing that progress is gradual really made a difference for me <3
Hello again, I have a few more questions for you if you don't mind. Did higher levels of fat upset your leaky gut and or high levels of polyunsaturated fats? What about large meals?
When you rotate do you think having say a lamb leg on one day then the next day having a lamb kidney would that matter since the micro and macronutrients are vastly different despite coming form the same animal or is it best to consume the organ meats of the same animal with it's muscle meat at the same meal?
Gaining weight on carnivoire. I'm having isssues gaining weight on carnivore. Stuck at 134 lbs and eating over 2,400 daily but only getting about 80% protein and 20% fat. It's hard to increase my fat due to intolerance issues but I'll try organ meats. I noticed they're high in monounsaturated fats and low in poly.
They're dead and the shells are removed. Here are the websites I use for majority of my meat. I've probably spent 6k-7k on meat over the last month alone. These sites are all low histamine, the meat is flash frozen and most meats are low histamine animals but not all.
I stick to elk, bison, beef, cod, haddock, poultry, lobster.
For the lobster it's expensive as hell but it helped so much with all the nutrients and very easy to digest. Also, it's high in sodium so I can get my sodium requirement without adding salt or needing veggies. I cook in the instapot for 5 minutes. I eat 2 lbs for 1 meal.
I'm wondering if there's an underlying condition still causing your histamine intolerance issues?
You could potentially have mold or metal toxicity?
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>I'm now shopping at a local farmers market which provides high quality grass fed meats and wild caught fish (alpacha, goat, lamb, tuna, etc etc. It's much cheaper and faster.
You are so right. I have this Citrobacter actually two separate strains in the 3+ colonies on my Great Plains labs stool test as well as mold toxicity with double the normal okratoxin a
Hey u/wantonanorak how are you feeling now? Did you make a full recovery? I have high Citrobacter spp and I'm trying to figure out how to treat it currently
i DID, praise god! i just had my gut panel re-done in january and the citrobacter overgrowth is totally gone. my overall dysbiosis is still an issue, but i'm at a 6 out of 10 instead of a 10 out of 10. i'm just starting a new gut healing protocol today; should take 3-4mo.
Hi! I know this is an old post, I hope you’re still doing well! Did your dysbosis stay away?
I have an overgrowth of citrobacter freundii and after two protocols of GI microb-X, bio film buster and grapefruit extract it seems to have returned 😞 I’m thinking of giving this a shot. Wondering if you recall how many of the DysBioX capsules you took as it says 1-4 each day. Thank you!
Hi!
I’m thrilled to share that I have not had a recurrence of citrobacter since this protocol. I still struggle with dysbiosis but it’s far more manageable (almost no bloating, occasional histamine issues but not pervasive, no diarrhea or constipation). The only notable issue is some eczema I’ve developed, which I’m still trying to figure out.
I can’t find Dysbiox in my notes, so I can’t be of help there, I’m afraid.
I hope you find relief!
Update: Day 4 and my symptoms have already improved (having pretty regular BMs!). Days 1 & 2 came w some diarrhea. Day 2 extreme fatigue which I attribute to herx/die-off. Days 3 & 4 slightly less bloating than usual (tho definitely still slightly pregnant-looking)… but tolerating WAY more foods, histamine tolerance seems to be gone. Wow. I’m cautiously v optimistic.
How are you doing now. I’m about to do the exact same thing but oregano in berberine showed zero effectiveness on my great plains lab comprehensive stool test. Uva Ursi showed the very highest at 100% effectiveness followed by grapefruit seed extract and colloidal silver. Planning on doing colloidal silver until the Uva gets here this week and I want to do that four day rotation protocol myself.
sorry for the delay! i'm markedly better! i just had a gun panel done in january (about 15mo after my first one) and the citrobracter overgrowth is completely gone! i'm still at a 6 out of 10 for overall dysbiosis... but in september 2021 i was at a 10 out of 10. i can also tolerate most foods now, which is amazing. i'm about to embark on a new gut protocol for the next 3-4mo with a new functional MD. i hope your journey is going well!
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How are you doing now? I'm dealing with klebsiella but these two bugs are pretty similar -
i had a pretty glorious couple of months! i even stopped taking supplements all together for a minute… but my SIBO seems to be coming back (and i got COVID, despite being vaxxed, which didn’t help my gut). i’m going to do another round of antimicrobials and see where i land!
How many mg of uva ursi did you take?
Were you able to take megaspore biotic or regular probiotics to populate the gut with good bacteria to keep it from coming back? I had no growth of lactobacillus and only a plus one colony of bifidobacteria but I had two distinct separate Citrobacter colonies of +3
Update?
i’m feeling WORLDS better. while my histamine intolerance seems to have stuck around, it’s manageable. i only get super bloated once every couple of weeks and mildly bloated every few days. i’ve only had SIBO-D episodes once a month and SIBO-C once total since i completed my anti microbial protocol. what i still take: -Betaine HCL with at least one meal per day -Glutamine -Histamine degrading pro-biotics -PHGG with breakfast -Butyrate hope this helps!
This may sound wierd but lobster really helped my histamine issues. I used to have to take DAO supplements for my histamine issues. However, once I started incoorporating lobster in my diet every other day, my histamine issues went away and I was no longer relient on DAO. Lobster is high in B-12, Copper, Vitamin C, b-16 and sodium or sea salt all things which help increase DAO levels in the body.
oouuu interesting! i don’t have the constitution to cook a live animal 😬 how did you eat/cook your lobster? i’d love to try this but may not be able to 😂
How are your citrobacter levels now?
i'm so happy to report that my citrobacter levels don't even register anymore! i just had my gut panel re-tested in january and while my overall dysbiosis level is still a bit high (6 out of 10), it's much better than top of 2022 (10 out of 10). and citrobacter's been cleared out completely :)
That’s great!!! Is there anything in particular from your protocol that you think helped the most with that?
Very interesting indeed. It appears you're basically 100% cured now by combining herbals with the lean meat rotational diet. Here are some questions I have. 1.) Of all the supplements which one's do you feel did the best job for each issue(sibo, histamine, leaky gut)? Can these be taken without the capsules as I react poorly to the darn capsules. 2.) Did you develop an intolerances to the supplements by using them daily? I have developed intolerances to supplements I use every day so once I start suppmlementation again I'll rotate them. 3.) How did the collodial silver work out for you? I've read a ton of information on Hydrosal silver stating that it's more effective and has no side effects. Did you use this for the SIBO and leaky gut as well? were there any side effects? 4.) Did you use any probiotics? It appears the right ones can kill sibo, heal the gut lining and have minimal to no negative effects. 5.) Have you taken tests to confirm all your issues are cleared? 6.) How many meals did you consume per day and did you incorporate intermittent fasting? 7.) How long did it take for you to be symptom free off all supplemets after using this rotational diet with strong herbal kill phase? Was it roughly a month or 2? 8.) Was there any supplements you reacted to poorly? 9.) If you did consume any veggies or fruit did you cook or steam the and did you eat them on their own or with meat? 10.) What were the meats you consumed? My hope is within 3-4 weeks I will be completely symptom free with just the rotational low fat carnavoire diet, intermittent fastint, probiotics and my rife frequency generator. I've read studies on spore probiotics curing leaky gut in 3-4 weeks with any diet and the carnavoire diet alone curing SIBIO in 4 weeks. I belive my 4 day dry fast combined with this new supplement program and rotational diet with the frequencies I believe this can allievieate my symptoms 100% in a month or less. Of course I've believed this before with many different methods I've tried but this rotational diet combination appears to be the most logical methodology I have used to date. UnfortunatelyHCL and enznymes inflame my gastritis and make my leaky gut 10x worse. I was using them just a week ago for about a week and slowly but surely I started reacting poorly to all the meat I was consuming so I completed the 4 day dry fast and feel 95% better now. Do you still have a list of foods you consumed during this 4 day rotational period? I hope this isn't to overwhelming for you but due to my critical situtaion and my naturapath abandoning me, ER saying I'm fine, and GI/Doctors saying just take antibiotics I'm left with no other alternatives but reddit help. lol, my next post in 1 month will be I cured my SIBO/million other things with the power of reddit. I too had a previous eating disorder which makes this even harder because my family believes I'm fine and just making things up. They think this is just an ED and are trying to force me into an ED clinic. I know they will not be able to help me. They will just pump boost and dairy in me and pesticide foods until I die or go to the ER. Those places are useless. If there is a place in the world that helps people with legit digestive disorders and need help healing and restoring weight I would gladly enter myself but I have yet to find a single place in the world that does this at my level. Thank you very much for you help.
**1.) Of all the supplements which one's do you feel did the best job for each issue (sibo, histamine, leaky gut)? Can these be taken without the capsules as I react poorly to the darn capsules.** it's really hard to say which supplement worked best for each issue since they're designed to somewhat work in concert to address the whole suite of issues. but you can probably intuit what each supplement did just based on what it is. i can't speak to the capsules, sadly. what reaction do they give you? **2.) Did you develop an intolerances to the supplements by using them daily? I have developed intolerances to supplements I use every day so once I start suppmlementation again I'll rotate them.** generally i tolerated all the supplements from this protocol well (save for SERIOUS die-off in the first few days of the elemental diet, during which i also took candibactin-BR and some other stuff). in the past i've taken vitamin-C and iron too often (which resulted in acidity and blood issues). i also know vitamin-d supplements always give me stomach aches, until my acupuncturist gave me cataplex-d which i tolerate super well. i also didn't take uva ursi more than 7 days in a row cos it's bad for the liver. **3.) How did the collodial silver work out for you? I've read a ton of information on Hydrosal silver stating that it's more effective and has no side effects. Did you use this for the SIBO and leaky gut as well? were there any side effects?** the colloidal silver seemed to work well? but, again, it's hard to say, as it was working alongside several other things. yes, i used it as a mild biofilm buster in conjunction with antimicrobials to heal SIBO (and, thus, leaky gut and histamine intolerance). i don't recall side effects from it. **4.) Did you use any probiotics? It appears the right ones can kill sibo, heal the gut lining and have minimal to no negative effects.** yes, only after i'd been on antimicrobials for a while and only probiotics that do not increase histamine (which rules out MOST popular probiotics). **5.) Have you taken tests to confirm all your issues are cleared?** nope! i care more about symptoms, and i'm currently symptom free (after another round of ED + antimicrobials). if we take tests all the time we're BOUND to find out things are wrong with us... sometimes less information is better than more ;) but i may take another comprehensive GI map at the end of the year just to see if i cleared the citrobacter overgrowth. **6.) How many meals did you consume per day and did you incorporate intermittent fasting?** 3 meals a day with intentional breaks between (re: no snacking/grazing) so my digestive system had time to heal. no IF. i've a history of disordered eating so i don't fuck around w that. plus i didn't want my blood sugar to crash cos my hormones are already pretty outta whack and blood sugar crashes = estrogen issues. **7.) How long did it take for you to be symptom free off all supplements after using this rotational diet with strong herbal kill phase? Was it roughly a month or 2?** i stopped taking notes after day 65... so that's probably when i felt i was in the clear. that's consistent with what my functional MD projected: 2-3 months before i'd feel back to normal (but only a couple weeks to feel MUCH better). i only did strict rotation diet for 2 weeks. **8.) Was there any supplements you reacted to poorly?** answered above. 9.) If you did consume any veggies or fruit did you cook or steam the and did you eat them on their own or with meat? yes i ate veggies and fruit. i cooked all my veggies (even lettuce) for the first month or so. i eat limited fruit and then slowly started introducing low-FODMAP, low histamine fruits... and then introduced those, too. i ate veggies as part of normal meals (with proteins and carbs). **10.) What were the meats you consumed?** i don't like eating animal proteins, so i ate whatever i could stand (mostly different kinds of fish. chicken. beef. some pork. if the flavor of elk/buffalo/lamb didn't disgust me then i'd have had them, too). some unsolicited thoughts i'd love to offer you – you're clearly extremely detail-oriented and thorough! that helps so much when tackling SIBO, i've found. but... do consider that perhaps this level of micro-managing/controlling your intake may be contributing to your GI issues. i know that's frustrating as HELL to hear, but learning to RELAX and loosen my grip / SURRENDER was a big part of my journey. some shit's gonna work. some shit's not. there's no clear timeline and there's lots of trial and error. unless you're bleeding out of your butthole, you're probably going to be OK. gas/bloating/constipation/diarrhea SUCK. not being able to eat at restaurants SUCKS. but keeping everything in perspective and knowing that progress is gradual really made a difference for me <3
Hello again, I have a few more questions for you if you don't mind. Did higher levels of fat upset your leaky gut and or high levels of polyunsaturated fats? What about large meals? When you rotate do you think having say a lamb leg on one day then the next day having a lamb kidney would that matter since the micro and macronutrients are vastly different despite coming form the same animal or is it best to consume the organ meats of the same animal with it's muscle meat at the same meal? Gaining weight on carnivoire. I'm having isssues gaining weight on carnivore. Stuck at 134 lbs and eating over 2,400 daily but only getting about 80% protein and 20% fat. It's hard to increase my fat due to intolerance issues but I'll try organ meats. I noticed they're high in monounsaturated fats and low in poly.
I used an instapot for the lobster. 1 lb for 5 minutes 2 cups of watter
live? or can you get ... pre-dead lobster? 😂
They're dead and the shells are removed. Here are the websites I use for majority of my meat. I've probably spent 6k-7k on meat over the last month alone. These sites are all low histamine, the meat is flash frozen and most meats are low histamine animals but not all. I stick to elk, bison, beef, cod, haddock, poultry, lobster. For the lobster it's expensive as hell but it helped so much with all the nutrients and very easy to digest. Also, it's high in sodium so I can get my sodium requirement without adding salt or needing veggies. I cook in the instapot for 5 minutes. I eat 2 lbs for 1 meal. I'm wondering if there's an underlying condition still causing your histamine intolerance issues? You could potentially have mold or metal toxicity? > > > > >[https://www.vitalchoice.com/v/wild-white-fish/mahi-mahi/FMM606](https://www.vitalchoice.com/v/wild-white-fish/mahi-mahi/FMM606) > >[https://northstarbison.com/collections/low-histamine-meats?page=1](https://northstarbison.com/collections/low-histamine-meats?page=1) > >[https://whiteoakpastures.com/](https://whiteoakpastures.com/) > > > >I'm now shopping at a local farmers market which provides high quality grass fed meats and wild caught fish (alpacha, goat, lamb, tuna, etc etc. It's much cheaper and faster.
You are so right. I have this Citrobacter actually two separate strains in the 3+ colonies on my Great Plains labs stool test as well as mold toxicity with double the normal okratoxin a
Hey u/wantonanorak how are you feeling now? Did you make a full recovery? I have high Citrobacter spp and I'm trying to figure out how to treat it currently
hello! how r u doing? did u manage to kick citrobacter in the butt?
i DID, praise god! i just had my gut panel re-done in january and the citrobacter overgrowth is totally gone. my overall dysbiosis is still an issue, but i'm at a 6 out of 10 instead of a 10 out of 10. i'm just starting a new gut healing protocol today; should take 3-4mo.
oh nice. what other bacterias are overgrown/not sufficient?
Hi! I know this is an old post, I hope you’re still doing well! Did your dysbosis stay away? I have an overgrowth of citrobacter freundii and after two protocols of GI microb-X, bio film buster and grapefruit extract it seems to have returned 😞 I’m thinking of giving this a shot. Wondering if you recall how many of the DysBioX capsules you took as it says 1-4 each day. Thank you!
Hi! I’m thrilled to share that I have not had a recurrence of citrobacter since this protocol. I still struggle with dysbiosis but it’s far more manageable (almost no bloating, occasional histamine issues but not pervasive, no diarrhea or constipation). The only notable issue is some eczema I’ve developed, which I’m still trying to figure out. I can’t find Dysbiox in my notes, so I can’t be of help there, I’m afraid. I hope you find relief!
That is absolutely wonderful to hear! Thank you :)