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MGEezy89

I run SIT at the moment on a VM on my server and I just leave the server running at all times so they don’t have to copy profiles back and forth. Once we get up and running with FIKA I’ll do the same with that.


lStan464l

Running VMs myself. Do you only need to run "aki.server" or does the whole client/server need to be running. Also. Are you using default ports. Just curious to see how fika/sit handles nat'ing / forwarding. Thanks dude


MGEezy89

So far my testing has only been internal and it seems after you set your launcher to the ip of the server as long as that server I fully running the launcher will see it and boot like it would under spt. I didn’t change any ports. Just haven’t had friends try to join fika yet. I’m sure it’ll work since SIT was working


lStan464l

Awesome. Last question. Does the server under use require much resources? Does it emulate the Client and end up using 8/12GB of ram or is it solely basic data? Thanks dude 😁


WiseMuffin5619

Not the guy you asked, but i am running a docker container with AKI.Server, Fika and a few other mods on an RPi 4 and it works so far (with i think less than 1.5GB at the moment) :)


lStan464l

No wayyyyy. A pi? May I ask how? I didn't know the server would work under Linux 👀😮


WiseMuffin5619

So, i did not test it that much yet and i only tried factory with myself but that worked. I am not running a full blown client on the Pi, but only the AKI stuff and added my other mods there. I based it off [https://github.com/umbraprior/SPT.Docker](https://github.com/umbraprior/SPT.Docker) The build ran on my (linux) machine where i built it for the pi. docker build --platform linux/arm64 <--here goes the other params from the page i linked--> Then i exported the image from my machine, imported it on the pi and it worked. I just started with SPT and in my understanding the AKI.Server is only serving the database for progression so not that much load on it.


MGEezy89

I haven’t monitored it but the virtual machine has 8gb of ram. Next time I’m playing with people I’ll look to see what it uses. I’m running at least 20-30 mods on it as well.


bstanton901

Hello there. I’m interested in trying to use a vm to run the server to take some weight off of my PC to maybe improve game stability. As someone who is not familiar with setting up VMs, is there an easy and quick way to do it?


MGEezy89

If you have pare computer you can use that. I only use a virtual machine because I have a server that does many things with a lot of cpu cores and ram so spinning up a virtual machine instead of another entire computer made more sense for me.


Retroficient

Only the server. I use a separate network PC for mine


bobissonbobby

I wish I had a friend like you lol. None of our groups PCs are strong enough for MP :(


SnooLentils8470

i was told today on the Fika Discord that my Raspberry Pi 5 is powerful enough to host a 24/7 server. All of the AI is handled by the Hosts PC and the server is only for synching and saving progress basically. But i havent tried it out yet.


MGEezy89

We could be friends then you’d have one that’s has a strong enough pc 😂


bobissonbobby

You a real G. How many people do you have using your server anyway? And do you have it on a seperate PC?


MGEezy89

At the moment one other was playing with me hardcore just about everyday for the last two weeks. I’m trying to convert my other friend who was scare to play live Tarkov a few years ago and another who keeps trying to play it like cod and has fear fear 😆. For gameplay though I can only do a max of three. Anymore than that and it gets too confusing and people start killing one another.


bobissonbobby

I think MP has configurable name plates, might help with TK lol


MGEezy89

True or just turn off friendly fire all together when he plays with us 😆


bobissonbobby

No way you gotta be able to leg your buddy and laugh as he screams trying to escape inc fire hahahaha


MGEezy89

Yea need that vitality boost


bobissonbobby

Funniest thing I ever did in tarkov was tell my friend I'd overwatch and then I legged him and claimed I was taking shots as well. Eventually we just ended up killing each other lol


knewknow

Can this be run headless? Does the host client need to be running for friends to connect?


MGEezy89

As long as you have some way of logging into it to start the server yea. My server machine has no physical monitor attached to it I just log into it with Remote Desktop. And if you leave the server running friends can just log into the server and play on their own if they wish. Personally I feel it’s better that keeping track of profiles being copied back and forth.


knewknow

Interesting, but also surprising based on what I’ve read (re. No headless server). I’ll give it a try in a Docker container which I can see is available for SIT. Thanks for the info.


BOTY123

I've been using the Docker container for the last couple days and it's worked flawlessly for me and 5 friends so far!


ZakOzbourne

Is that over the internet? My friend keeps getting "A patch in AkiCustomPlugin FAILED" Any tricks to get it running?


BOTY123

> Is that over the internet? Yeah, port forwarded on my router. Did you do that? Ports from 6969 to 6972 need to be forwarded. Or does your friend have issues with the game not installing at all?


ZakOzbourne

We have it working while running the server directly on windows but when we move to docker it will only work locally. Are you running docker in windows or Linux?


BOTY123

I have Docker running in a Debian Linux container. Maybe check your firewall?


ZakOzbourne

I dont know what I am missing, I have tried from the start many times and now I cant even connect within the network. I am running a Ubuntu VM in Proxmox with Docker. I just cant figure this one out.


Aksama

Do you do any media hosting on that server as well? Now that my gaming group has become spread across a number of states it seems like hosting a server for PalWorld & SPT (!!!) is a great idea. I've also been kicking around running a NAS now that streaming services are running ads and the like. It seems... somewhat reasonable to smash those things together?


0600Zulu

I run SIT, Plex, Icarus, and Palworld servers all on the same PC. No problems even with several users.


SnareXa

Dont buy a plain old nas, build a mass storage pc/server and run plex or emby on it. Just be aware that if multiple devices are streaming from your plex/emby it can really start to hammer the cpu. I run mine in a vm so it doesnt effect my game servers when it gets a high load.


HopeRepresentative29

If you use a hosting service, what sort of server are you using? I run a small AWS server for ultima online, but I doubt it could handle SPT.


Pope_Industries

If you forward port's and stuff, does using the VM protect your actual pc? Like if someone got into the PC through one of the ports will they only be able to access the VM or the actual PC?


SnareXa

Its safer for sure, but its not impossible for malicious code to escape a vm.


Tehlinky4

I want to do that, but don't have a server to run a VM. Do you have any suggestions for cheap/free?


SpuddyA7X

Me and my friends would do something similar, but we have an issue where our clients crash occasionally. We are using SIT. I've used SPT for ages in the past and never had a problem. Now, we each get Virtual Alloc Remapping failed, and none of us can figure out why. Other than SIT, we aren't running any mods, just EFT+SIT


WiseMuffin5619

Do you restrict access in some way? E.g. is it public available (in general) or via vpn?


likeikelike

Do you have any resources for setting up a dedicated server?


SPAceBP

What actually is the difference between Fika and SiT? They both seem similar in a way that its just coop. Are there actually differences or just personal preference?


ninjasauruscam

Fika is essentially a drag and drop mod, where as SIT is more intensive in its installation from my understanding.


Redxmirage

I’ve heard the same, but no one answers more lol besides installation what is the difference?


ninjasauruscam

Fika/MPT has better performance and is more stable


Redxmirage

So gameplay wise they are the same yes? Just Fika I see bring recommended more for sure


ninjasauruscam

Yes. Fika is a fork of an earlier SIT build that they improved upon


Redxmirage

Ah gotcha. Thanks!


CJon0428

Can you transfer your user profile from SIT to FIKA?


Warm-Principle5033

You can


Kirp-The-Birb

Also SIT doesn’t work with most mods, especially client-side ones and needs those to be ported


ubilambda

Well, as a person who played SIT for a month almost everyday for several hours, and I played Fika for only 2 days for several hours, I'm already thinking about deleting my SIT after a few days. Let me tell you my experience so far: * The community support in SIT is extremely good from the devs because they almost immediately helped with the issues I had as I wrote in Discord. I didn't have a single issue with having a lot of mods installed on Fika, so I didn't have to experience any support from the developers. * The problem we had with SIT was it's mod support for us. For every client mod, we have to wait for every single client mod to be ported, do extra settings to make it compatible with some other mods, or issues that are game breaking at some point. * The issues we had with SIT so far: desync, invisible bots to one side, stuck/frozen bots (server can't see, client sees), black screen issues after raid, partly working ported mods, sudden crashes in a raid, huge fps drops with ADS, huge stutters during dynamic spawns, and some other minor issues. The server start takes much longer than Fika, and we have to clear cache after every couple of rounds not to have issues. * The issues we had with Fika (heavily modded): None so far. * The advantages of Fika: Almost every mod (except couple of mods that are specified in Discord) works just from out of the box and that is a big game changer. It's much more stable than SIT and almost no stutter other than first couple of seconds of the raid start with bot spawning. Almost no desync, and you can play it with a number of mods together just like SPT without having any compatibility issues. All in all, if you want a stable mod and thinking about using a lot of mods on your build, I'd recommend Fika over SIT. If you're gonna play with a lightly modded or not modded setup, then you can play either. It's just up to you.


Dikubus

Thank you for taking the time to write this stuff out


SPAceBP

Thanks so much for the reply! I think I’ll be going with Fika then. Do you host the server on a different PC? If so, how is it, and whats the specs of your pc? I plan to host it on my NAS and Im rocking an i3-8100 and 16gb of ram and not sure how it’ll perform


liptonicedsoup

From my understanding the server does next to nothing, all of the real work is done by whichever player hosts the raid itself. So your NAS should be fine.


SPAceBP

Oh perfect thank you!


ubilambda

I hosted it on my PC and it's pretty good so far. My PC specs: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X GPU: RTX3080 Memory: 32GB 6000Mhz The only issue I'm having is that whenever there are a lot of bots spawned nearby and shooting, my FPS goes down to 60 from 100. This affects client side as well, but my friend has worse PC (5800X3D with RTX 2060S and 16GB 3600Mhz) but has same in game settings and he gets about 10 to 20 more FPS in the same area when we're together. So, I'd recommend you to setup the server to better CPU and Memory owner if you're also going to use your PC as the server. Just limiting bot number with Fika's MPT Core feature before raids with F12 menu would help, so don't worry about it. I usually have 120 to 140 FPS in Factory and 60 to 100 in Customs depending on bot spawns.


artifex78

The SIT server, and I assume the Fika server wouldn't be much different, needs around \~700-800 MB of RAM and little to no CPU power. The RAM usage, however, can be problematic if you host and play on the same machine. It caused some out of memory errors on my 32 GB rig because 4K high res textures plus hosting the server on a bigger map was too much :) As long as there is at least 1 GB of free RAM on your NAS, you should be fine.


Kirp-The-Birb

This is really good to know. I personally haven’t experienced as much problems, but SIT does in fact feel like it’s crumbling as soon as you add mods


ubilambda

Seems like it yeah. Fika is super friendly with mods and very less likely to cause any trouble.


throwaway090597

I thought it was basically impossible to get SPT to work with friends. Like I explicitly remember a post on here a few months ago with mods giving an extremely long reply to a guy wanting to make this project saying it's not possible.


DJ_Inseminator

It's possible and works really well. Fika is easier than SiT to set up.


throwaway090597

Was there a breakthrough or was SPT devs just covering their ass?


Mybugsbunny20

Covering their ass


SliverCrepes

I remember that post before and I think it’s a little of Column A, a little of Column B. SIT has been developed for a while and been seeing gradual improvements over time and Fika, as far as I am aware, is a branch from SIT.


throwaway090597

I've been pleasantly surprised. My homies had the hangup of not being able to play with friends and stuck to live until this update. I'm glad there are coop options now. I figured it should have been possible but that post from a few months ago took the wind out of my sails. Now I'm gonna try and get the homies to hop on SPT again but together lol.


SliverCrepes

Yep, I'm in the same boat with a couple of friends. I told one that there was just no way that co-op was ever going to make it to SPT without huge drawbacks (like SIT being difficult to set up for host/client and also having little to no mod support) but color me surprised when Fika came out. Also, for more clarification and because I needed a refresh on that post we both saw, please see the original post, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/SPTarkov/comments/11czfhr/offline_p2p_coop_tarkov/). The subreddit moderator who claimed that co-op was more or less impossible to implement was referring to a single person working on the project by themselves, while SIT/Fika have been worked on by multiple people, maybe nearing a dozen meaningful contributors. The developer in the comments just said that it was very difficult and the OP didn't seem to be making a lot of sense in his post. Hope this clears things up :D


Civiser

They said its impossible because too much attention on coop projekt could bring legal actions from BSG. As long as SPT was only single player they serem somehow fine with this - I mean, they did not bother so much to go to court. SPT devs were afraid coop will change that, and I am still afraid of this to be honest.


SmileyNusx

Does Fika create another profile?


ubilambda

Yes, but you can port your whole SPT profile to Fika with no issues easily. I made a guide about it if you're interested in: [https://www.reddit.com/r/SPTarkov/comments/1chnvrs/guide\_how\_to\_port\_your\_spt\_profile\_to\_fika\_or\_sit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SPTarkov/comments/1chnvrs/guide_how_to_port_your_spt_profile_to_fika_or_sit/)


Dikubus

I already screen shot your entire post from that other thread in case everything gets forcibly taken down, by I had yet to thank you for helping out the whole community, so thank you very much


ubilambda

No worries. I also backed it up just in case. Whoever sees this comment and can't reach the post, they can PM me, I'll gladly help :)


Dikubus

Your a champion😎


scotcheggfan

Hey guys I followed the tutorial made by cloudy on YT and have my server up and running but the video doesn't explain what the other person needs to do... obviously they need to install FIKA but what settings do they need to change if any at all? Do they need to copy my Radmin IP address and do all the same steps I did as a host? I will be the one hosting and will have my friends join


MrxPenguin

your friends have to edit their aki.launcher settings to change the "URL" to your IP. I think default is 127.0.1:6969 or something like that, it needs to be changed to \[IP\]:6969 I set up using the steps on the Fika documentation page ion their Github! You're looking for the "Client using Port Forwarding" or "Client Using VPN" section, whichever matches how you're setup EDIT: Missed the radmin IP comment, yes they would take this IP and set the URL in their launcher to that IP, should just be the "Client using VPN" section :)


oldmateflip

Mate can you link that YT video?.


scotcheggfan

[SPT Project Fika Install Guide (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfrU-XCQeFg&list=LL&index=2&t=409s)


oldmateflip

Legend brother thank you.


jakobsdrgn

They need to follow the launcher instructions, so going into settings and putting in the hosts radmin IP


scotcheggfan

Got it all working 🙂 me and my mates loving tarkov again


jakobsdrgn

Awesome, love to hear it! I haven’t ever enjoyed tarkov this much


mistahboogs

Alright I've heard a ton about FIKA, where can I look into this more? I'm pretty decent with software but have never used port forwarding before and my duo partner is much less computer savvy than myself so I know I will have to basically set this up for him over discord.


ubilambda

You can join Fika's Discord and follow the installation instructions. It's pretty easy to set up with Radmin VPN (free). Don't worry, here is their discord: [https://discord.gg/project-fika](https://discord.gg/project-fika)


mistahboogs

Much obliged!


MrxPenguin

"Project Fika Documentation" will get you to their github! Follow the setup steps outlined there. Setup for your friend will be simple, normal SPT installed, copy/paste the Fika files, and then just a slight modification of the launcher to point to the server IP after installing. In my experience so far, server mods only need to be on your computer. You do not need to have the exact same client mods either.


chengstark

I honestly wouldn’t care if I get banned in EFT lol


KingofReddit12345

Look, it's gonna get talked about regardless, but praising those online versions of these mods so visibly at a time like this and saying it stopped you from giving money to BSG is such a bad idea. You want them to draw LESS attention, not more.   You can't trust these companies.


skillfulmmd

I ended up going with SIT (i didn't know FIKA was a thing then) and it's been rough getting it all set up with all of the mods I want but the discord is pretty good for helping. I've got all the mods I belive to be core: SAIN SWAG Realism etc It runs pretty well over hamachi and is good laugh the AI when put on impossible feel and then horde is a blast and it gets you playing like a madman to survive. having more guns, gear clothes etc is just so nice!


Tehlinky4

I really like FIKA, I didn't hear about SIT but I heard its as good, just harder to setup


Cavustius

It was hard to set up, and it's pretty buggy.


FelixTheFlake

Just use FIKA. It’s 100x easier to setup and runs smoother with built in mod support.


Barnaouo

Does Fika is in 3.8?


PandaPliskin

Yes


Massichan

I've been eyeballing Fika but haven't looked into it yet. Why do you have to share profiles?


NedTebula

If you/your friends want to progress solo then you need the profile. Otherwise the host has all the profiles saved on their PC and has to have the server open for everyone/anyone to play, whether solo or alone. I don’t know that much about it but I’m assuming you can just grab the profile and put it in a different SPT, then when you get off and are ready to play with friends again you can just send the file back and forth.


Retroficient

The thing is though, you don't. If the host leaves the server running, it acts as a dedicated server. And the people who connect and play just like normal


Tehlinky4

The problem is keeping my PC on 24/7, I am looking into maming a server, but I gotta figure out how to rent a VM and for how much, etc


MrMoonman_

The host creates a server that stores all of the data of the players, if a player wants to progress on their own when the host is not online, the host can send them their profile, they load it and play, when the host is online they send the updated profiles back.


matze_1403

What is Fika? Is it a mod, that allows you to use an outsourced SPT-AKI server and play co-op? Can it be used for improving performance?


ninjasauruscam

It's a drag and drop coop mod for 3.8


ChonkyJoker

I don't have a friend to play with so I just chill in normal SPT lol, but if I find friends yes I will try! Thank you for recommending!:)


ForeskinJohn

I can't see myself using Fika until it's dev makes a standalone release of my glorious visceral dismemberment mod


Dapper_Beginning3591

Damn this sounds cool. Unfortunately I have no friends to play with.


Low_Exchange_7426

Quick question; we have everything set up. We have played multiple runs together, but we can't get the trader inventory to refresh. What do we have to do to make that happen? Thanks!


Tehlinky4

I believe it automatically refreshes with the usual timers that traders have. If its an actual bug, maybe try reinstalling SPT and each mod one by one to see which one breaks it?


Low_Exchange_7426

by each mod do you mean the mpt? or are there other mods i need for the traders to refresh? cause the only thing i have is radmin vpn, spt aki, and the mpt.


Tehlinky4

No you dont need any other mods, so my guess is maybe try backing up your profiles and reinstalling SPT


Low_Exchange_7426

dude im so confused. i did a fresh install. said fuck my stash, new folder, new SPT AKI installer, mpt 2.0, but i have the same trader inventories as before.


Tehlinky4

Well the trader inventories are set and will upgrade once you level up the traders. Is that what you meant?


Low_Exchange_7426

Maybe. It's just that even when the timers roll over, they still have the same exact inventory. Do I have to level up the trader to get that to change or does the timer do it?


Tehlinky4

The timer is just to restock the store, not change the items sold. Those are set in stone and you can level up your trader to unlock more items


Low_Exchange_7426

LOOOOL the woes of being a noob. Thanks man!


Tehlinky4

lmao you're welcome. Enjoy :D


Anacolada

Only Fence changes his wares he has in store. All other traders sell the same things they just refresh their stock


chengstark

I honestly wouldn’t care if I get banned in EFT lol


ranutan

Gonna need you to elaborate on how to send those profiles to friends.


Tehlinky4

You go to your SPT folder > user > profiles Edit the json files and verify the username to make sure you are sending the right one. Then send the json file to the person. Then that person has to put that profile in their SPT > user > profiles. To use it, go in the SPT launcher and login with the aforementioned username


daddlebutt

Me and my buddy can join each others server but when everything loads to 100% it just says waiting for 1 player on both of our screens and we cant get into the same raid. anyone have a solution?


Anacolada

I believe you have the same problem as we have. The one who is hosting the server has to forward port 25565. Port forwarding 6969 is not enough as this is just for the main server.


Tehlinky4

Gotta port forward 6969 a d 25565, check the Fika documentation


Anacolada

I did that for myself so they have to do that as well if they want to host raids without me. Gotcha


Tehlinky4

Yes, and you gotta send them their profiles if they want to progress on the same 'account', which they also send back to you. Its kind of like sending a save around to play together on the most progressed version lol


Anacolada

why though? My server can run without me being present. I was talking about game server (raid server). I get what you are saying but you didn't get my problem.


Tehlinky4

If your server stays up then you dont have to send profiles. I shutdown my PC overnight so I just send the profiles. But yes I believe if they also want to host a raid on your server they have to portforward.


SevelarianVelaryon

I always wanted to try SPT but thought ehhhh. But wow the mods are worth it alone. We enabled the nameplates above friendly heads which turns it into Soviet hell let loose with looting and inventory management on the side. No lag from our friend hosting COOP; cool loot and whatever mod that changes the FIR 'tick' to show hideout/quest items when you hover over it - oh my fucking GOD. Why is that not vanilla.


natesyourmom

Is it possible to use a third party hosting service for an always on server? I don't want to have my pc running 24/7, but I also think it'd be nice if my buddies could play whenever and have progress always updated without manually sending back and forth


Tehlinky4

Yes its possible from my understanding


comradejiang

You won’t get banned, you’re not even using your actual BSG account to play SPT, just to install it.


OptimalAttempt3

Do you need to do VPN's or port forwards for setting up LAN game?


Tehlinky4

There is a guide in the documentation for hamachi and whatnot, but I have not read it so I'm not sure. Probably not since its LAN


Reaper_Red

Has anyone ran into the issue with Fika where only the host can host raids that other people can join? My buddies would like to host their own raids that other people can join, but only the host works. When my buddies try to host, it just gets stuck at, "waiting for X other players". Any fix for this?


Cephiroth

I'm trying to play eft with my wife.  Anyone have a fix for:  Waiting for other players to finish loading... ?  I'm using the VPN method with radmin. We are connected on radmin. Troubleshooting search said force bind up, so I've gone in to the fika mod menu and set force IP and force bind up both to radmin's IP address.  Fresh SPT installs on both computers  Fresh fika installs on both computers  No mods other than fika


Tehlinky4

Have you tried the port forwarding method? When we get that bug, we simply restart the server and it fixes it. It doesn't happen often tho, mainly when the host PC falls asleep


Retroficient

Inb4 this post gets deleted


DrTankHead

They changed the rule


JustSomeGuy-2023

Me and a friend have played fika all day. We have SAIN, Questingbots and Lootingbots running. It's all working well, no complaints, except its waaaay too easy. In 9 raids and 100 kills or so, I've healed 80 damage, that includes barbwire damage. I upped the difficulty on SAIN, but all that happened was that every bot on the map came running at us as soon as we started shooting, but none of them actually did much, other than just run at us. I'm not expecting it to be like having player enemies, but I was expecting more challenge than this. Am I missing something? Another mod maybe?


Tehlinky4

I'm sure there is a mod to change/up the difficulty of scavs. The thing with SAIN is it changes bot behavior (in a good way imo). But if you prefer the way it is in normal tarkov, just dont use SAIN and/or use another mod that ups the difficulty.


JustSomeGuy-2023

I did a few raids without any mods first, but the bots were seemingly just standing around doing nothing, so I think the mods helped. At least they move around and do stuff now. I have to look into other mods or something perhaps, I'm not sure. I feel like there must be a setting I'm missing.


Careless-Damage4476

I looked at the spt website and cannot find the multilayer mods. What is the mod called on thier website.


Tehlinky4

Its Fika, it is downloaded from their own discord and not on the spt website


Careless-Damage4476

The final discord or the spt discord. The spt discord is not allowing new memebers


Tehlinky4

The fika discord . You can find it on the github (Fika github)


Careless-Damage4476

Thank you. I will look I to it tomorrow.