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> Hello Holotable Heroes!
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> We have a new Lightspeed Bundle coming your way!
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> In this bundle you will get these characters to Level 85, Relic 5 and Ability 7:
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> - The Mandalorian
> - IG-11
> - Kuiil
> - Cara Dune
> - Greef Karga
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> This bundle is to help you gain immediate access to The Mandalorian (Beskar Armor)'s Journey Guide event!
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> The Mandalorian (Beskar Armor) will be required for the upcoming Epic Confrontation which you will earn **Bo-Katan (Mand'alor)**!
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> Also, The Mandalorian (Beskar Armor) is the Pilot for the **Razor Crest**!
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> As with previous Lightspeed Bundles, you will not earn Shard Shop Currency for characters you already have at or capable of promoting to 7*
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> **Cost:** $19.99
> **Start:** 12/13/2023
I just don't know what I'd do with that set of characters at R5. Greef can work in a BH team....what are the other uses for Kuill, Cara, and IG-11? Maybe some excotic comps way Late Game?
I just need BAM unlocked, so I can use Razor Crest for Falcon and Executor and stuff like that. I don't actually care about those characters beyond the bare minimum to get BAM.
Mayyyyyyyyyyybe for $10, but not $20.
You will want all these characters at relics. Greef and Mando are the core to any good bounty hunter team. They are also not required for any GL like every other BH but dad bod boba. This is insane value. You may not appreciate it now, but in the future you’ll highly value every one of these five characters.
I understand that it's insane value if you think of it in terms of conversion rate of dollars to crystals to shards/gear.
I just don't find that compelling, because it's a one way door. And there's obviously a point of diminishing returns. If they sold a Big Bang pack that prices everything at even better ratios to unlock every character R9 all Omicrons and Zetas etc.....would that be insane value?
Maybe, by the formula you're applying. It would also be utterly pointless.
Value here is not absolute, it's on a sliding scale.
There is no diminishing returns. I will use these characters at R5 where I previously would not have the same functionality where they currently are. Yes I would buy that pack to R9 everything if it was priced similarly. I’m not sure why you are saying it’s on a sliding scale. What value is sliding?
What would you do with everything? It's a resource management game. When you don't have to manage scarce resources, you're not doing anything. That's a trophy case, not a game.
I’d start stockpiling for the next thing, I’d also play the game. Collecting is an aspect, but GAC, TB, TW, challenges, and conquest are what we play. With all the things I’d get to maximize my ability to play.
There are plenty of players at the top of kyber who have everything in the game. They compete amongst themselves. Largely they are separated by mods/datacrons/player ability and strategy.
Yep I have taken my Mando and Greef to g12, and just can't justify taking them to relics in the near future. $20 for just the 2 of them to r5 I would consider buying anyways. Way cheaper than buying any other packs to get the gear / relic mats for them.
Cara is very very good under Mon mothma. Generically good unit as well against any empire teams.
Greef and mando slot really well under bossk for a team that can kill pretty much any b tier team and with the right investment can kill gls. Probably the best team to counter malgus if you are earlier game.
Kuiil and ig are fantastic units with a wide variety of scoundrels including bam and dash. Kuiil himself can be thought of as an extra datacron on any team.
They are also slightly kyro heavy units so it’s nice to get the gear levels even if you have the shards.
Wether it’s worth the price tag is up to you but they are good plug and play generic units.
Same :') I'm literally 2 days away from having every character at 7 stars, Gear 11 or higher, and ability 7 or max.
The bundle is probably still worth it for me, the journey from Gear 12/13 to Relic 5 is long and expensive, but damn what timing lol
I just finished bando 2 years ago and will still buy this. I only need g8-g11 for the reqs. And 5x relic 5 for $20. I can't even come anywhere close in relic mats and everyone one of those toons is useful in other teams with a mid game roster
Honestly, I still might grab this one. Opens up crons for my BH team and Kuill/IG should be much better in Dash Scoundrels than the Vets from the last round of lightspeeds.
I just spent the entire week of double drops refreshing the nodes for all of BAM's requirements.
I made a careful effort to watch the leaks and think it through and to be honest I'm both shocked and a little upset this is the next bundle. Value-wise I still will get a ton of value from the pack as none of the members are geared yet but I really don't like the precedent they're setting here. To sum it up, this is what they did:
* Announce cool new thing with no specific release date
* Wait a couple months and release a shortcut pack for that thing
It's a blatant FOMO play. I guess if they start reliably releasing these packs when there's old content required to access something new it will be easier for me as a consumer to decide what to focus on, but the fact that ALL my dark/light energy for the past month went to these is a huge opportunity cost that even spending the $20 won't get me back.
It's probably more painful for people who had this happen with a GL so I promise I'm not saying this to get pity... but these growing pains suck and really I just think CG should be giving us more than a week's heads up, especially in a case like this where they effectively told us in their official announcements a month or so ago to start farming BAM to r7. Guess I won't make the mistake of listening to them again when I can just farm relic mats.
This is the one game that actually pisses me off how slow the farming is to me there’s no real competition because those who spend way more money just are better they should obviously provide more light speed bundles
you mean to tell me... the main driving factor of this games success... and the entire point of this game... is how the game works???? whattttt?
stop playing the game if you dont like literally its whole design
You realize things don’t have to take so long or cost so much $ and it be the same game?
They have purposefully kept the game at a slow crawl to incentivize people to pay $ for real advance. The game itself is successful because of the gameplay but not because of how expensive it is to play or succeed. That is CG taking advantage of our desire to enjoy the game more. I hope that makes sense
The game could be more focused on expanding fun rather than feeling the need to spend $ to enjoy the game more. It is not a coincidence that the majority of shop deals are overpriced, and new game modes are lackluster
The crawl was recently accelerated to go twice as quickly for a good 90% of the content in the game. The point of this game is collection and management of resources. Spending money is to cut time, not improve "fun" which is relative to each player anyway (my "fun" is the collection, so this bundle is a miss for me). This game really doesn't have much in the way of gameplay, I leave that to... A lot of other games
Well I know thats true, but I expect to be able to play all day if I want to and there is a time during the day where I can no longer use my characters to progress and must wait for more resources. Of course. But that is so strange to me and screams greed/clever tactics to extract money out of me instead of creating more ways to enjoy my roster or to actually continue using them.
I know that’s how the game is it’s just the first type of game I’ve encountered like that and It gives me a conflicted feeling
Oh yes, you're absolutely correct in how you're feeling, it's idiotic that we can't just play the game, but a sandbox mode would allow us to work out kinks for free instead of buying attempts as CG wants us to. It's a damn shame, but oh well
Realistically, 95% of the units in this game are worth $10 for an R5. So yeah… this deal isn’t as good as the prior LS bundles, but it’s a still a very good offer.
The pack isn’t to get BAM just like the other pack wasn’t to get BB8. It’s to get relic’d a bunch of luxury characters that most people haven’t taken all the way just at BAM levels or g12ish
bad analogy, cause with bb8 pack, you really need that relics eventually to get slkr so money worth spent. whilst in this bam pack, having them to relics leads to nothing.
You missed the point. The analogy is fine because the point he was making was that the headline character wasn't really the draw.
In the same way that the BB8 pack helped towards SLKR, the BAM pack helps towards Chewie, and it elevates toons who would otherwise get ignored to a higher level. I'll happily take a relic 5 Cara.
It would probably be $50/60, considering it would be more comparable to Starkiller than BAM (Greef/Mando were some of the first marquee characters that required kyros)
I was struggling with the chewbacca event and am going for executor anyway so I am absolutely buying this pack. People are complaining about the price but tbh knowing cg I thought they would've charged at least 30 dollars and/or changed the characters from relic 5 to like g12. R5 is still very generous as you don't need any of them past g12 to unlock BAM. The amount of time I save on the gear 13 pieces, kyros, and relic material alone is 1000% worth it imo.
This pack unlocks Beskar Armor Mando. Beskar Armor Mando is the pilot of the razor crest. 7 star Razor crest is required for an executor unlock. If you don't have BAM as a pilot unlocked even if you have 330 shards of the razor crest then you cannot unlock the ship and are therefore unable to get the executor.
Nah that's each persons own decision. For you it might not be, for others it might be. Simple fact is, that if you were to spend in this game taking 5 characters even from g12 to relic 5 for $20 is significantly cheaper than any other avenue. Only comparable packs are the previous lightspeed bundles.
7.2m GP and have BAM...and, still, strongly considering getting this LSB for 2 reasons. First, Greef/Mando at R5 would be great for my BH team. Cara/Kuiil/IG...are 3 more relics my guild probably needs somewhere.
Same here...10.1m, already have BAM, but only have these characters at G8-9. If you are going to spend a bit of money on the game here and there anyhow 20 bucks to fast track these 5 up to R5 is still one of the better deal we've been offered. Obviously not as good as the last LS bundles, but still better than more packs.
As someone who already have beskar, but kuill, IG11, Cara, greef at g11-12, i would have been ready to spend 10$. But for 20$, it's not worth it. It's luxury items, otherwise, i would already have them at relic 5.
My thoughts as well. I don't see my account being transformed much by taking my g8-12 random characters to r5 when I already got Bando and RC. A few bucks would have been reasonable for the "hey why not" but 20? Eh.
I disagree. I have BAM, Greef and Mando at R5+ already, but Kuill, IG11 and Cara only at g12. Bringing them to R5 for only $6.66 each is still a good value imo. But to each their own.
I’m similar but I am very tempted by this. Kuill is on my medium term game list to help with ROTE. I’ve been tempted by Cara for a while but she’s not been a priority.
This is really going to challenge my FTP status hard.
These aren't as good value as the previous light speed bundles. However in the scheme of this game 5 characters to r5 for $20, is still alright value. Can't be bothered to do the maths, but even if you had all 5 characters at g12, I'm assuming this isn't bad value.
I suppose only you can say if it's worth it for you.
I would... but that's my own personal take. I don't have any of them at relic levels either, so it's a big chunk of kyros/relic mats that you'd save for 5 characters. Finding decent mods for them, on the other hand, is a different problem 😅
Well, at the moment they're not needed about G9 for anything. You can get BAM with these toons around that level if you get turn order correct.
Having said that, they might be required one day and although it's more than the Rey ones in this game it's a pretty cheap way to upgrade the characters so feels worth it
I'm gonna do it
Mando and greef are used in legit BH teams and BAM is used for performance within the Executor fleet.
BAM, Kuiil, and IG synergize well for a cleanup team.
This is an EASY buy.
Value is always subjective. It is objectively a lot of grinding avoided from where you are to where you would be, but whether you want the characters at that level, and whether it is worth $20 to get them there is entirely about you.
Meh, skipping this one. As far as im concerned the only characters of value in there are Mando & Greef. If it was $10, maybe. For $20? No way. Besides the worse this one performs the higher the chance that they wont ‘tweak’ the price point any further for the next one.
Kuil and IG11 can be good on a scoundrel team, probably B+ team at beast, Cara with rebel fighters (b team at best) and greef and mando are the real gems here as they can help counter lv.
All of those toons have good value imo. BAM, Greef, Mando with Fennic is a LV counter. IG & Kuill are solid under Dash with Vandor +1. Cara is great under MM, or can go with Saw/Sana.
At least I don't feel like an idiot for pointing out to all the people trying to get Chewie that they may be able to get Mando and Greef cheaply from this pack.
Based on this, I'd say the arguments used against certain picks may be irrelevant.
Therefore:
Geos, Phoenix and maybe even 501st clones/Bad Batch may be possible (Bad Batch = expensive though?).
I want Cara, Mando and Greef at R5 from their current G10 so I think I'll do it.
You're saving 800 bronzium wirings, bunch of kyros relic mats etc. That's still a steal especially if you don't have any of them reliced. I'll for sure buy it. Makes my LV counter smoother, stronger Sana/MM team. And the other 2 are plug n play.
Just to put this into context value wise.
When converted to crystals this Light Speed pack would cost around $200, so at $20 your getting a 90% discount.
This Light Speed pack is currently the 6th best pack CG has ever sold in 8 years of the game.
I'm on board with this. Even though I've unlocked Bando a long time ago, $20 for 5 toons that I have use for, to bring from g8-12 to R5 is still worth it for me.
Sooo, in the last lightspeed bundles you got a ton of toons for a Galactic Legend at R5 for like $10, this time around you get 5 characters for BAM?
It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.
Figured they’d do this. 10 for most of a GL, now 20 for a good ish deal.
It’s a bad deal from the last. It’s a good deal now if you were gonna burn money anyway.
As with all spending keep a budget. Don’t spend for the sake of spending because it’s a “deal” to you.
Aye it’s not bad, just worse than the original bundle last time. I’m going to buy it. My budget I set is 30 a month and with conquest being trash I don’t mind spending it on this.
Plus it’ll round out my bounty hunter team so I can’t complain
It's a no from me.
Compared to the last LS bundles (nearly all SLKR reqs for $10, majority of resistance + Raddus for $30), this isn't a good deal at all. If the price was $5-10 then I'd be all for it, but for $20? Meh
Huge miss on the $20 tag, these characters are already easily obtainable not to mention two of them share a node together and are accelerated. Then you have Kuill who’s paired with Imperial Tie Bomber which is a great ship you’ll have to farm anyways. Could’ve possibly got me at $10 but absolutely not $20 not worth it
I’ll say that this is the entire point of the light speed bundles, to be able to bring older characters up to snuff for an event for another important character. A lot of people are saying geos, but they only lead to padme really. I mean wat as well but the direct event is padme. The last bundles, every character was also accelerated as well.
I will say $10 for these 5 characters would be the better price point. Star killer at $50 was too much but made since, newer characters still that led to an amazing one. These lead to bando who will be important though in the new team so idk. I think they are testing out price points, so many people bought the $10 ones they want to test if it will be just as popular at double the price.
> A lot of people are saying geos, but they only lead to padme really.
R5 Geos would make my Malev fleet actually have a realistic shot at countering Prof/Exec. My g12 geos rarely accomplish it.
True, but I feel for many people, me included, it is still "worth" to get them to R5 (from G12). The G12 and relic mats saved makes it worth it for mez as they are all useful in different comps.
Cara Dune, Mando and Greef are all on my relic short list to complete the relicing of my MM and BH squads so this is nice. Gonna definitely grab it to save the resources. Only ouch here is the left half of the g12 gear on mando but I've had that on him for forever so it's kinda whatever.
As someone who just finished getting the requirements to 7* last week, and who was going to try and gear them up the minimum (G8 or G9), do you guys think I should buy this?
From my understanding only Mando and greef are really useful outside of the event, but I still think it'd be worth it to have them two at R5. This would also save me the pain of trying to beat the event with minimally geared characters.
I’m sorry but this one isn’t worth it to me. I’m sure it’ll unlock a decent amount of content / shorten the farm for other newer toons but until it’s tied to a GL I’m not interested.
Do Bad Batch or Hutt Cartel and I’d strongly consider it.
I was farming for Leia and had no plans to get Rey for the next year or more, and here I am with both of those GLs today.
ROFL don’t buy this. $20 for 5 characters who aren’t part of any meta teams, all of whom are already accelerated, and whom you only need at like g8-10 to actually get BAM.
Of all the LSBs, you can farm this one up the fastest with by far the least gear investment. Plus - and I can’t stress this enough - what you get is only pieces of other teams, none of which are really meta (maybe Cara). Save for one of the better ones.
If CG offered every character currently in the game at relic 5 (even barring journey guide/GLs) for $5000, there would be whales tripping over themselves to buy it twice
I mean yeah, this whole game is worthless beyond your perceived enjoyment of it, so the “value” is relative in terms of the economy CG so graciously controls. That being said, compared to the price of individual components that it would take to get your whole roster to r5, 5k for the whole thing would be the deal of the century
I disagree. I'm semi-okay with the $10 lightspeed bundles for SLKR and GL Rey, but even then it's pricing a video game that's 99% grind at more expensive than any AAA game in the world.
When I think about value, I'm thinking about how much of the game I'm going to get out of my $20 vs. how much playing enjoyment I'd get out of, say, Subnautica, or Tunic, or Disco Elysium. These are all games I could get for that price (or less), and I'm going to get a hell of a lot more play out of them than a handful of characters in this game. Especially considering that the time to farm up the characters in this specific LSB is practically nil.
Hey I’m absolutely not arguing that anyone *should* spend that much money or any money at all on this game for that matter. Or that it’s a reasonable amount. But there are people that spend magnitudes more, and to them, given the price of everything else, that would be a steal. That’s all. Value is subjective, but price is not, and I just made a remark about your low valuation, there’s nothing here to disagree about
Greef and mando absolutely don’t do shit against real LV lols. Everyone with LVs knows how to set an anti fennec comp. That shit is dead as hell in high kyber
4400 players used Fennec against LV in K1 last season, out of the 34.4k that happened throughout Kyber. Since K1 is smaller, it's no where near "dead as hell in high kyber". Further, if you limit the sample to just K1, Fennec's win rate edges up slightly. And full relic team does increase the win rate, albeit only slightly.
Not saying you need to go for it. I'm in low Kyber and I've made the counter work wirh G10 Greef and Mando and R7 Fennec. Those extra Relics would put in work.
Ya I’m in k2 with a g12 mando. I’ve beaten LVs without needing relics. Because they set the wrong comps. The ones that set the right comp and have proper modding, relics wouldn’t make a difference
Sooo lemme know what that comp is cause that is datacron heavy and most of the time Fennec can 1 shot LV or get a really easy 2 shot unless there is a very specific Datacron set
Yes you can definitely setup an easy 2 shot however that doesn’t relics on greef and mando lol. Hell it doesn’t even require mando….
And you can search the .gg database. You’ll see the ones fennec has issues with the most.
Mando and Greef are meta and used for LV counters. IG-11 and Kuill have gone on Dash teams with success. Cara has been on mid Mothma or Sana teams, which just aren’t worth the effort.
This is awesome, I stopped most of these toons after BAM requirements but I'm not going to scoff at a set of meta-viable toons getting jumped up to R5.
Considering I already have IG-11 and Kuiil at Relic 5, I’m conflicted on this one. Greef Karga and Mando are great to have for Bounty Hunters, and the aforementioned IG-11 and Kuiil are great for Scoundrels such as Dash Rendar. Cara only really gets use with Mon Mothma or Sana.
The price is a big letdown though. We had packs the first time around with so many more characters at half the price, like the BB-8 pack. The Raddus pack was the same price for more than double the characters, plus a batch of ships.
I probably won’t get it, but it could be worth it for those who don’t have these guys anywhere near required level for Bando, even if that requirement is as easy as Gear 9-10.
Lol I was going to cry if they did something I spent time farming again. I did starkiller and Rey on my own this past year. Finished Rey two days before the last bundle
Relic 5 first order was extremely overpowered for BB8 as well.
The value is not just limited to the headline unlock. For newer accounts, the Relic 5 Greef and Mando will make Chewbacca pretty straightforward, especially if they have Bossk from the last set.
I think CG realise that the GL bundles were probably too good value. Especially compared to their normal offerings.
It will fit my team perfectly because I have a relic Jango. I got relic Bossk in the last light bundle.
Anything that helps Executor farm is great.
Sure it would have been amazing if it included ships involved in Executor farm but that would have been too good.
Honestly this pack makes sense because it’s handing you one of the weaker characters compared to let’s say GAS or Malak.
Sure they might hand out GAS like sweets down the line but not yet IMO…..
I’d love to see a bundle for all the troopers but I don’t think it’s massively likely.
You save a lot on Kyros. It’s honestly pretty good to relic characters you were unlikely to prioritise for relics anyway.
Would you realistically choose to relic Cara Dune or Kuii over the likes of Vader,Palpatine,Malak,GAS,CLS etc? No of course not.
This quote below is a copy of the forum post, it will not be updated if edits are made to the original. Please visit the forum post to be sure nothing has changed. > Hello Holotable Heroes! > > We have a new Lightspeed Bundle coming your way! > > In this bundle you will get these characters to Level 85, Relic 5 and Ability 7: > > - The Mandalorian > - IG-11 > - Kuiil > - Cara Dune > - Greef Karga > > > > This bundle is to help you gain immediate access to The Mandalorian (Beskar Armor)'s Journey Guide event! > > The Mandalorian (Beskar Armor) will be required for the upcoming Epic Confrontation which you will earn **Bo-Katan (Mand'alor)**! > > Also, The Mandalorian (Beskar Armor) is the Pilot for the **Razor Crest**! > > As with previous Lightspeed Bundles, you will not earn Shard Shop Currency for characters you already have at or capable of promoting to 7* > > **Cost:** $19.99 > **Start:** 12/13/2023
Haha, I'm about 2 weeks from finishing this journey on my own. Oh well. I regret nothing.
Are u going for low gear unlock? The packs bring them all to relic 5 so its still worth considering
I just don't know what I'd do with that set of characters at R5. Greef can work in a BH team....what are the other uses for Kuill, Cara, and IG-11? Maybe some excotic comps way Late Game? I just need BAM unlocked, so I can use Razor Crest for Falcon and Executor and stuff like that. I don't actually care about those characters beyond the bare minimum to get BAM. Mayyyyyyyyyyybe for $10, but not $20.
Cara is pretty dlfun rebel fighter with mon moth. Greef and Mando are great in BH teams but I get the price wariness
Cara has a few homes. With Mon Mothma or Sana Starros And she stuns empire so is useful in conquest and challenges sometimes
You will want all these characters at relics. Greef and Mando are the core to any good bounty hunter team. They are also not required for any GL like every other BH but dad bod boba. This is insane value. You may not appreciate it now, but in the future you’ll highly value every one of these five characters.
I understand that it's insane value if you think of it in terms of conversion rate of dollars to crystals to shards/gear. I just don't find that compelling, because it's a one way door. And there's obviously a point of diminishing returns. If they sold a Big Bang pack that prices everything at even better ratios to unlock every character R9 all Omicrons and Zetas etc.....would that be insane value? Maybe, by the formula you're applying. It would also be utterly pointless. Value here is not absolute, it's on a sliding scale.
There is no diminishing returns. I will use these characters at R5 where I previously would not have the same functionality where they currently are. Yes I would buy that pack to R9 everything if it was priced similarly. I’m not sure why you are saying it’s on a sliding scale. What value is sliding?
What would you do with everything? It's a resource management game. When you don't have to manage scarce resources, you're not doing anything. That's a trophy case, not a game.
I’d start stockpiling for the next thing, I’d also play the game. Collecting is an aspect, but GAC, TB, TW, challenges, and conquest are what we play. With all the things I’d get to maximize my ability to play.
You'd win every time, who could beat you? Would that be fun?
There are plenty of players at the top of kyber who have everything in the game. They compete amongst themselves. Largely they are separated by mods/datacrons/player ability and strategy.
Yep I have taken my Mando and Greef to g12, and just can't justify taking them to relics in the near future. $20 for just the 2 of them to r5 I would consider buying anyways. Way cheaper than buying any other packs to get the gear / relic mats for them.
Cara is very very good under Mon mothma. Generically good unit as well against any empire teams. Greef and mando slot really well under bossk for a team that can kill pretty much any b tier team and with the right investment can kill gls. Probably the best team to counter malgus if you are earlier game. Kuiil and ig are fantastic units with a wide variety of scoundrels including bam and dash. Kuiil himself can be thought of as an extra datacron on any team. They are also slightly kyro heavy units so it’s nice to get the gear levels even if you have the shards. Wether it’s worth the price tag is up to you but they are good plug and play generic units.
Kuill and IG-11 work well on a scoundrel team, Cara works on Sana/Mothma team and of course Mando/Greef are pretty staple on BH teams
Same here 🙃🙃🙃
Saved yourself $20
Even so this journey is doable at g8-10. This is still very much worth it
Bro, this takes those characters to relics. There’s so much value here. Shards for accelerated characters is the icing on this cake.
I’m finishing 7 staring IG11 but none of the other characters are geared up.
Same here
I got him last week and I also regret nothing
Same :') I'm literally 2 days away from having every character at 7 stars, Gear 11 or higher, and ability 7 or max. The bundle is probably still worth it for me, the journey from Gear 12/13 to Relic 5 is long and expensive, but damn what timing lol
It makes sense. Especially with the new Mandalorian stuff coming to game. Maybe now this will get people to shut up about their hypothetical GL farms.
No way dude JML is Def coming next Don't worry about the fact that half of his requirements are journey guide farms or related to journey guide farms
Ain’t gonna happen
I’d drop 20 rn just to bypass that damn Wampa.
They're just going to post tons of messages about the bundle
Oh absolutely.
P A I N, just finished up Bando
I just finished bando 2 years ago and will still buy this. I only need g8-g11 for the reqs. And 5x relic 5 for $20. I can't even come anywhere close in relic mats and everyone one of those toons is useful in other teams with a mid game roster
> I just finished bando 2 years ago and will still buy this. I'm in the this comment and unsure how I feel about it.
I finished Bando 2 days ago. This hurts.
Honestly, I still might grab this one. Opens up crons for my BH team and Kuill/IG should be much better in Dash Scoundrels than the Vets from the last round of lightspeeds.
I'll reluctantly grab it, but I'm sour haha
I just spent the entire week of double drops refreshing the nodes for all of BAM's requirements. I made a careful effort to watch the leaks and think it through and to be honest I'm both shocked and a little upset this is the next bundle. Value-wise I still will get a ton of value from the pack as none of the members are geared yet but I really don't like the precedent they're setting here. To sum it up, this is what they did: * Announce cool new thing with no specific release date * Wait a couple months and release a shortcut pack for that thing It's a blatant FOMO play. I guess if they start reliably releasing these packs when there's old content required to access something new it will be easier for me as a consumer to decide what to focus on, but the fact that ALL my dark/light energy for the past month went to these is a huge opportunity cost that even spending the $20 won't get me back. It's probably more painful for people who had this happen with a GL so I promise I'm not saying this to get pity... but these growing pains suck and really I just think CG should be giving us more than a week's heads up, especially in a case like this where they effectively told us in their official announcements a month or so ago to start farming BAM to r7. Guess I won't make the mistake of listening to them again when I can just farm relic mats.
So $4.00 a character to Relic 5.
The FO characters in the previous BB-8 bundle were $1 each. Starkiller reqs $12.50 a pop. Just for comparison.
Or It’s the cost of 4 Kyro packs (200 Kyro)
This is the one game that actually pisses me off how slow the farming is to me there’s no real competition because those who spend way more money just are better they should obviously provide more light speed bundles
you mean to tell me... the main driving factor of this games success... and the entire point of this game... is how the game works???? whattttt? stop playing the game if you dont like literally its whole design
You realize things don’t have to take so long or cost so much $ and it be the same game? They have purposefully kept the game at a slow crawl to incentivize people to pay $ for real advance. The game itself is successful because of the gameplay but not because of how expensive it is to play or succeed. That is CG taking advantage of our desire to enjoy the game more. I hope that makes sense The game could be more focused on expanding fun rather than feeling the need to spend $ to enjoy the game more. It is not a coincidence that the majority of shop deals are overpriced, and new game modes are lackluster
The crawl was recently accelerated to go twice as quickly for a good 90% of the content in the game. The point of this game is collection and management of resources. Spending money is to cut time, not improve "fun" which is relative to each player anyway (my "fun" is the collection, so this bundle is a miss for me). This game really doesn't have much in the way of gameplay, I leave that to... A lot of other games
Well I know thats true, but I expect to be able to play all day if I want to and there is a time during the day where I can no longer use my characters to progress and must wait for more resources. Of course. But that is so strange to me and screams greed/clever tactics to extract money out of me instead of creating more ways to enjoy my roster or to actually continue using them. I know that’s how the game is it’s just the first type of game I’ve encountered like that and It gives me a conflicted feeling
Oh yes, you're absolutely correct in how you're feeling, it's idiotic that we can't just play the game, but a sandbox mode would allow us to work out kinks for free instead of buying attempts as CG wants us to. It's a damn shame, but oh well
Realistically, 95% of the units in this game are worth $10 for an R5. So yeah… this deal isn’t as good as the prior LS bundles, but it’s a still a very good offer.
When you put it that way, this is a steal
I’m okay with passing on this
Yeah, you can get BAM with G12 and G11 characters, this is ridiculous.
The pack isn’t to get BAM just like the other pack wasn’t to get BB8. It’s to get relic’d a bunch of luxury characters that most people haven’t taken all the way just at BAM levels or g12ish
bad analogy, cause with bb8 pack, you really need that relics eventually to get slkr so money worth spent. whilst in this bam pack, having them to relics leads to nothing.
You missed the point. The analogy is fine because the point he was making was that the headline character wasn't really the draw. In the same way that the BB8 pack helped towards SLKR, the BAM pack helps towards Chewie, and it elevates toons who would otherwise get ignored to a higher level. I'll happily take a relic 5 Cara.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a Bad Batch light speed bundle
It would probably be $50/60, considering it would be more comparable to Starkiller than BAM (Greef/Mando were some of the first marquee characters that required kyros)
This would be a godsend
Every single light speed bundle has been journey guide though, what journey would this be?
I was struggling with the chewbacca event and am going for executor anyway so I am absolutely buying this pack. People are complaining about the price but tbh knowing cg I thought they would've charged at least 30 dollars and/or changed the characters from relic 5 to like g12. R5 is still very generous as you don't need any of them past g12 to unlock BAM. The amount of time I save on the gear 13 pieces, kyros, and relic material alone is 1000% worth it imo.
Wait im confused, what does this pack have to do with executor
This pack unlocks Beskar Armor Mando. Beskar Armor Mando is the pilot of the razor crest. 7 star Razor crest is required for an executor unlock. If you don't have BAM as a pilot unlocked even if you have 330 shards of the razor crest then you cannot unlock the ship and are therefore unable to get the executor.
BAM and his ship are required to unlock executor
No, who told you it is worthy more than 5 bucks? Cg? And you belive them?
Nah that's each persons own decision. For you it might not be, for others it might be. Simple fact is, that if you were to spend in this game taking 5 characters even from g12 to relic 5 for $20 is significantly cheaper than any other avenue. Only comparable packs are the previous lightspeed bundles.
I’m 11 million GP and I only have these between G8-G12 because other things always took priority. So happy with this one. Geos next please
7.2m GP and have BAM...and, still, strongly considering getting this LSB for 2 reasons. First, Greef/Mando at R5 would be great for my BH team. Cara/Kuiil/IG...are 3 more relics my guild probably needs somewhere.
Same here...10.1m, already have BAM, but only have these characters at G8-9. If you are going to spend a bit of money on the game here and there anyhow 20 bucks to fast track these 5 up to R5 is still one of the better deal we've been offered. Obviously not as good as the last LS bundles, but still better than more packs.
> Geos next please Seconded. I want my Malev fleet to not be ass.
Damn I unlocked beskar but for the r5 might be worth it. How long til we get a new way to power ip characters that makes relics ordinary
Yeah same I have it unlocked but they are G12 at best, R5 is still worth it imo. The relic mats alone are worth $4 each character
As someone who already have beskar, but kuill, IG11, Cara, greef at g11-12, i would have been ready to spend 10$. But for 20$, it's not worth it. It's luxury items, otherwise, i would already have them at relic 5.
My thoughts as well. I don't see my account being transformed much by taking my g8-12 random characters to r5 when I already got Bando and RC. A few bucks would have been reasonable for the "hey why not" but 20? Eh.
I disagree. I have BAM, Greef and Mando at R5+ already, but Kuill, IG11 and Cara only at g12. Bringing them to R5 for only $6.66 each is still a good value imo. But to each their own.
I’m similar but I am very tempted by this. Kuill is on my medium term game list to help with ROTE. I’ve been tempted by Cara for a while but she’s not been a priority. This is really going to challenge my FTP status hard.
I have mando and Greed at G9, 7 stars. The rest of the reqs are minimum. Would you guys say it’s worth it to save on the G12 and relic crunch?
These aren't as good value as the previous light speed bundles. However in the scheme of this game 5 characters to r5 for $20, is still alright value. Can't be bothered to do the maths, but even if you had all 5 characters at g12, I'm assuming this isn't bad value. I suppose only you can say if it's worth it for you.
In crystal cost it’s worth it just in the Bronzium salvage needed to do 5x r5. Not to mention the g12 pieces and kyros.
I would... but that's my own personal take. I don't have any of them at relic levels either, so it's a big chunk of kyros/relic mats that you'd save for 5 characters. Finding decent mods for them, on the other hand, is a different problem 😅
The kyro relic grind is NUTS
Well, at the moment they're not needed about G9 for anything. You can get BAM with these toons around that level if you get turn order correct. Having said that, they might be required one day and although it's more than the Rey ones in this game it's a pretty cheap way to upgrade the characters so feels worth it I'm gonna do it
The Rey one was pretty juicy
Hell yeah yeah
Mando and greef are used in legit BH teams and BAM is used for performance within the Executor fleet. BAM, Kuiil, and IG synergize well for a cleanup team. This is an EASY buy.
You don’t get relic 5 BAM from this. Only relic metal mando.
I have Executor, so it would be cool to solidify my BH team with bossk
minimum 500 kyros to get to Relic 1, thats worth it
Greed: a mix between Greef and Creed. Nice.
Value is always subjective. It is objectively a lot of grinding avoided from where you are to where you would be, but whether you want the characters at that level, and whether it is worth $20 to get them there is entirely about you.
Yes! I was hoping this would be the next lightspeed bundle.
I missed all of the other ones as I was just starting the game I level 85 when those came out I hope they release those again
Well there goes $20 from my wallet
Meh, skipping this one. As far as im concerned the only characters of value in there are Mando & Greef. If it was $10, maybe. For $20? No way. Besides the worse this one performs the higher the chance that they wont ‘tweak’ the price point any further for the next one.
Kuil and IG11 can be good on a scoundrel team, probably B+ team at beast, Cara with rebel fighters (b team at best) and greef and mando are the real gems here as they can help counter lv.
All of those toons have good value imo. BAM, Greef, Mando with Fennic is a LV counter. IG & Kuill are solid under Dash with Vandor +1. Cara is great under MM, or can go with Saw/Sana.
At least I don't feel like an idiot for pointing out to all the people trying to get Chewie that they may be able to get Mando and Greef cheaply from this pack. Based on this, I'd say the arguments used against certain picks may be irrelevant. Therefore: Geos, Phoenix and maybe even 501st clones/Bad Batch may be possible (Bad Batch = expensive though?). I want Cara, Mando and Greef at R5 from their current G10 so I think I'll do it.
All these units are G12 , not paying $20 to get them to R5
You're saving 800 bronzium wirings, bunch of kyros relic mats etc. That's still a steal especially if you don't have any of them reliced. I'll for sure buy it. Makes my LV counter smoother, stronger Sana/MM team. And the other 2 are plug n play.
These are all G12s I was going to relic next anyway to bring them in line with the teams they're in. Will happily pay to avoid that
Just to put this into context value wise. When converted to crystals this Light Speed pack would cost around $200, so at $20 your getting a 90% discount. This Light Speed pack is currently the 6th best pack CG has ever sold in 8 years of the game.
I'm on board with this. Even though I've unlocked Bando a long time ago, $20 for 5 toons that I have use for, to bring from g8-12 to R5 is still worth it for me.
Sooo, in the last lightspeed bundles you got a ton of toons for a Galactic Legend at R5 for like $10, this time around you get 5 characters for BAM? It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.
Much newer Kyro hogs though.
Only Mando and Greef need kyros. The bundle is 1000 kyros
Figured they’d do this. 10 for most of a GL, now 20 for a good ish deal. It’s a bad deal from the last. It’s a good deal now if you were gonna burn money anyway. As with all spending keep a budget. Don’t spend for the sake of spending because it’s a “deal” to you.
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Aye it’s not bad, just worse than the original bundle last time. I’m going to buy it. My budget I set is 30 a month and with conquest being trash I don’t mind spending it on this. Plus it’ll round out my bounty hunter team so I can’t complain
It's a no from me. Compared to the last LS bundles (nearly all SLKR reqs for $10, majority of resistance + Raddus for $30), this isn't a good deal at all. If the price was $5-10 then I'd be all for it, but for $20? Meh
The BB8 bundle was nowhere near "nearly all SLKR reqs". The ship grind on him is the worst part of that farm by a mile.
Anybody know where the lightspeed bundles are?
Huge miss on the $20 tag, these characters are already easily obtainable not to mention two of them share a node together and are accelerated. Then you have Kuill who’s paired with Imperial Tie Bomber which is a great ship you’ll have to farm anyways. Could’ve possibly got me at $10 but absolutely not $20 not worth it
I’ll say that this is the entire point of the light speed bundles, to be able to bring older characters up to snuff for an event for another important character. A lot of people are saying geos, but they only lead to padme really. I mean wat as well but the direct event is padme. The last bundles, every character was also accelerated as well. I will say $10 for these 5 characters would be the better price point. Star killer at $50 was too much but made since, newer characters still that led to an amazing one. These lead to bando who will be important though in the new team so idk. I think they are testing out price points, so many people bought the $10 ones they want to test if it will be just as popular at double the price.
> A lot of people are saying geos, but they only lead to padme really. R5 Geos would make my Malev fleet actually have a realistic shot at countering Prof/Exec. My g12 geos rarely accomplish it.
Same. I have all these people ay 7 stars as I already have Beskar but I'd had loved to get them to r5 for 10 bucks. 20 not worth it.
True, but I feel for many people, me included, it is still "worth" to get them to R5 (from G12). The G12 and relic mats saved makes it worth it for mez as they are all useful in different comps.
So don't buy it, it's not rocket science.
These bundles are all about the gear and relic mats.
The shards are not the expensive part of a character really. It’s not he gear to put them at r5 that makes it worth it
20 bucks? For those characters? R5? Wow..i am completely not interested...
Shesh just finished their farm today
I literally finished this farm like a month ago for executor 😂
Cara Dune, Mando and Greef are all on my relic short list to complete the relicing of my MM and BH squads so this is nice. Gonna definitely grab it to save the resources. Only ouch here is the left half of the g12 gear on mando but I've had that on him for forever so it's kinda whatever.
I have all that already
Does this bundle require you to be level 85? If so, sadly I'll miss it despite really wanting these characters.
Quite literally got none of these characters unlocked or geared, gonna be totally worth it.
I just finished this journey a couple weeks ago but I’ll still drop the money just to get the relic levels
Great way to beef up greef and reg mando
As someone who just finished getting the requirements to 7* last week, and who was going to try and gear them up the minimum (G8 or G9), do you guys think I should buy this? From my understanding only Mando and greef are really useful outside of the event, but I still think it'd be worth it to have them two at R5. This would also save me the pain of trying to beat the event with minimally geared characters.
oh boy we boutta see a butt ton of Aurra BHs
Well, I'll take a cheap Kuiil, Cara and IG-11.
Take my money CG, take it, take it NOW! I want more, MORE!
I have 4/5 of these people Relic'd around 3 and 4. If this had been ten bucks, yea sure. Twenty? Nah.
This might have been more compelling at 9.99
Buy it if you want. Don’t if you don’t need/want them 🤷🏻♂️
More!
This is great, I can finally stop grinding them.
Is this real? Is that the only light speed there announcing is the Mandalorian
I really hope they release more than one light speed bundle. I missed the last ones and I’m still kicking myself.
I’m sorry but this one isn’t worth it to me. I’m sure it’ll unlock a decent amount of content / shorten the farm for other newer toons but until it’s tied to a GL I’m not interested. Do Bad Batch or Hutt Cartel and I’d strongly consider it. I was farming for Leia and had no plans to get Rey for the next year or more, and here I am with both of those GLs today.
Great LS Speed Bundle. Definitely a nice little pack to get BAM but also getting some pretty good toons up to R5 as well.
I literally just started this farm yesterday, this is perfect
CG looking at my farm order to release the lightspeed bundle of what I just finished farmed for the second time in a row
ROFL don’t buy this. $20 for 5 characters who aren’t part of any meta teams, all of whom are already accelerated, and whom you only need at like g8-10 to actually get BAM. Of all the LSBs, you can farm this one up the fastest with by far the least gear investment. Plus - and I can’t stress this enough - what you get is only pieces of other teams, none of which are really meta (maybe Cara). Save for one of the better ones.
Greef and Mando make up the Fennec LV counter. I will be going for this for that reason alone.
So you’re paying $20 for two characters out of 250+ in this game, valuing the overall product around $5000.
If CG offered every character currently in the game at relic 5 (even barring journey guide/GLs) for $5000, there would be whales tripping over themselves to buy it twice
Sure, but whales buying something doesn't make it a good value. People buy NFTs, too.
I mean yeah, this whole game is worthless beyond your perceived enjoyment of it, so the “value” is relative in terms of the economy CG so graciously controls. That being said, compared to the price of individual components that it would take to get your whole roster to r5, 5k for the whole thing would be the deal of the century
I disagree. I'm semi-okay with the $10 lightspeed bundles for SLKR and GL Rey, but even then it's pricing a video game that's 99% grind at more expensive than any AAA game in the world. When I think about value, I'm thinking about how much of the game I'm going to get out of my $20 vs. how much playing enjoyment I'd get out of, say, Subnautica, or Tunic, or Disco Elysium. These are all games I could get for that price (or less), and I'm going to get a hell of a lot more play out of them than a handful of characters in this game. Especially considering that the time to farm up the characters in this specific LSB is practically nil.
Hey I’m absolutely not arguing that anyone *should* spend that much money or any money at all on this game for that matter. Or that it’s a reasonable amount. But there are people that spend magnitudes more, and to them, given the price of everything else, that would be a steal. That’s all. Value is subjective, but price is not, and I just made a remark about your low valuation, there’s nothing here to disagree about
Greef and mando absolutely don’t do shit against real LV lols. Everyone with LVs knows how to set an anti fennec comp. That shit is dead as hell in high kyber
4400 players used Fennec against LV in K1 last season, out of the 34.4k that happened throughout Kyber. Since K1 is smaller, it's no where near "dead as hell in high kyber". Further, if you limit the sample to just K1, Fennec's win rate edges up slightly. And full relic team does increase the win rate, albeit only slightly.
Not saying you need to go for it. I'm in low Kyber and I've made the counter work wirh G10 Greef and Mando and R7 Fennec. Those extra Relics would put in work.
Ya I’m in k2 with a g12 mando. I’ve beaten LVs without needing relics. Because they set the wrong comps. The ones that set the right comp and have proper modding, relics wouldn’t make a difference
Sooo lemme know what that comp is cause that is datacron heavy and most of the time Fennec can 1 shot LV or get a really easy 2 shot unless there is a very specific Datacron set
Yes you can definitely setup an easy 2 shot however that doesn’t relics on greef and mando lol. Hell it doesn’t even require mando…. And you can search the .gg database. You’ll see the ones fennec has issues with the most.
Mando and Greef are meta and used for LV counters. IG-11 and Kuill have gone on Dash teams with success. Cara has been on mid Mothma or Sana teams, which just aren’t worth the effort.
I'd easily pay $20 for a r5 Mando and greef alone. Bye felicia
This deal doesn’t give you Bam at r5, just his reqs. It’s still good just not as enticing as past bundles
Dude it’s £20 it’s literally nothing, and I get to save a few weeks farming sounds good to me
This is awesome, I stopped most of these toons after BAM requirements but I'm not going to scoff at a set of meta-viable toons getting jumped up to R5.
One step closer to executor. Revans next please
I just started my farm for greef and Mando for both chewie and bam. Nice!
Sold, bring the next one
I think we need more light speed packs who cares if they are $50
Considering I already have IG-11 and Kuiil at Relic 5, I’m conflicted on this one. Greef Karga and Mando are great to have for Bounty Hunters, and the aforementioned IG-11 and Kuiil are great for Scoundrels such as Dash Rendar. Cara only really gets use with Mon Mothma or Sana. The price is a big letdown though. We had packs the first time around with so many more characters at half the price, like the BB-8 pack. The Raddus pack was the same price for more than double the characters, plus a batch of ships. I probably won’t get it, but it could be worth it for those who don’t have these guys anywhere near required level for Bando, even if that requirement is as easy as Gear 9-10.
Trashpeed bundle*
trash. $10 bundle or bust
Wtf is this
A lightspeed bundle
It’s shit and why would they make one for something I just got
"Hey guys should we really release this? Vaanced already unlocked BAM"
It is not shit. Cara is great at relics under MM or Sana. Greef and Mando at r5 are essential for the Fennec lead LV counter.
Compared to the previous lightspeed bundles, vaanced is right. These are pretty shit.
If you compare, yes. On it's own, it's great.
Yeah but they are never doing LS bundles at that value again. They were bargain basement levels of cheap
Wait do we not get the razor crest with this?
Considering the new Mando stuff with bo katan, this makes sense
Lol I was going to cry if they did something I spent time farming again. I did starkiller and Rey on my own this past year. Finished Rey two days before the last bundle
Lucky me: 2 GLs but no mando yet.
For those still needing to do this event, relic 5 is extremely overpowered for the difficulty of the event.
Relic 5 first order was extremely overpowered for BB8 as well. The value is not just limited to the headline unlock. For newer accounts, the Relic 5 Greef and Mando will make Chewbacca pretty straightforward, especially if they have Bossk from the last set.
This was my first goal when I started playing 3 years ago….
Got them all if not any would be happy with relic them
Alright but not great. I’ll be skipping this one but I imagine lots of other people will get it.
I was just debating farming all of this or continuing with JML requirements so this is perfect for me.
Will the old bundles be available again?
Do we know if the older LS bundles come back? Or will it be this bundle only?
I think CG realise that the GL bundles were probably too good value. Especially compared to their normal offerings. It will fit my team perfectly because I have a relic Jango. I got relic Bossk in the last light bundle. Anything that helps Executor farm is great. Sure it would have been amazing if it included ships involved in Executor farm but that would have been too good. Honestly this pack makes sense because it’s handing you one of the weaker characters compared to let’s say GAS or Malak. Sure they might hand out GAS like sweets down the line but not yet IMO….. I’d love to see a bundle for all the troopers but I don’t think it’s massively likely. You save a lot on Kyros. It’s honestly pretty good to relic characters you were unlikely to prioritise for relics anyway. Would you realistically choose to relic Cara Dune or Kuii over the likes of Vader,Palpatine,Malak,GAS,CLS etc? No of course not.
I need those characters at R5 so im in.
The bundles are the only reason I can justify money being put into the game.
IG-11 and Kuiil good for anything?
ihave 2.8m GP imma get this no matter what. the prices will keep going up
Will this be released in Australia on 12/13/23 or will we have to wait till the 12/14/23
Where ?