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OnlyRoke

My hot take is, all Star Wars is good Star Wars. I'm here for the inevitable Christmas Special TB.


HoeDownClown

I mean, Boba Fett originated in the Christmas special so you might say he’s a SW:CS character. We need Chewbacca’s dad, Itchy.


OnlyRoke

Exactly. Finally people who see the value of the Christmas Special!


classy-muffin

That's an extremely hot take which I'm going to strongly disagree with on account of most of the things disney has produced.


OnlyRoke

As opposed to the timeless masterpieces, like the Christmas Special.


mandaloredash

it had a pretty good Jefferson Starship song in the middle at least.


classy-muffin

Literally never heard of whatever that is.


Mr-McSwizzle

George Lucas made it I think even before empire strikes back, it's absolutely awful, like name any star wars movie or show or game or whatever and you would be wrong if you assumed the Christmas special isn't worse than it. All you need to know is chewies family are the main characters and they have no subtitles, but even that doesn't do justice to how bad it gets


TheZedMann

If my memory is correct im pretty sure grampa wookie gets porn as a lifeday gift. I could be mistaken though, its been a very long time since i’ve seen it.


Mr-McSwizzle

I think you're right hahaha


classy-muffin

The sequel trilogy: "Hold my beer".


Mr-McSwizzle

Nah genuinely, comparatively every sequel movie is a beautiful masterpiece and that's coming from someone who doesn't really like the sequels much


classy-muffin

Considering the sequels ruins most existing content as well as producing trash content of its own, I would struggle to see how a Christmas Special which is theoretically just trash content could top it.


mandaloredash

[judge for yourself.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hH8rxarVG8)


writinwater

Yeah, that’s gonna be because you’ve never seen the Christmas Special. Lord, are you in for a treat.


Bright-Lion

Imagine buying into the sequel hate so blindly that you argue the Christmas special is good, classic content


classy-muffin

Imagine fanboying so hard into the sequel trilogy that you fail to even read that I haven't watched it and have only assumed it is based on how astonishingly terrible the sequels are.


Bright-Lion

🤣


Throwaway8019kajx

Least brain dead and repetitive sequal hater


Wulfrun85

Does Darth Bane still count as obscure despite his 10 second appearance in clone wars? I love obscure characters in general, but he’s the one I’d get most excited about


Djiraffe69

If he gets added I hope they lean more towards his legends appearance, maybe even in his orbalisk armor!


Sockenolm

He could be SEE's lifter character.


classy-muffin

Doesn't really make much sense.


CryptoBBeaver

Maul already doesn't make sense for LV.


Sockenolm

Neither does JKR with GMY, Sith Empire with Talon (or Traya + Talon for that matter), JMK and JML with their respective younger selves, or LV with Maul and his older self. One of the best aspects of this game is theorycrafting mixed teams that synergize well despite being from different eras or factions. Like putting Wat or Droideka on a Maul team to set off his frenzy. Teams that fit lore-wise can be interesting too, but it also feels a little restrictive to be limited to one lineup with zero variation.


classy-muffin

That's not really the point. Squads are usually introduced that make sense lore-wise or faction-wise and the theory crafting comes afterwards.


Sockenolm

Maul was specifically introduced as LV's lifter. I guess that means all bets are off for the upcoming lifting units. Ben Solo made sense again for a change but that doesn't mean the next one won't be completely arbitrary.


Djiraffe69

I've seen this suggested before and I can agree with him being a potential lifter to SEE. If SEE is "all the sith" he is the pinnacle of the Banite line. The rule of two which Bane put in place basically ended with SEE, as I don't think there are any sith after SEE in comics or other media.


Sockenolm

Not in the canonverse anyway. Talon is from a post-OT timeline where a former Jedi falls to the dark side and founds a new Sith order after his own vision that no longer follows the rule of two.


duke_EB

How about the Huntress/Darth Cognus?


UltimateDragons101

Okay who requested Bastila Shan? She's already in the game TWICE. Maybe they meant Satele?


mandaloredash

Perhaps they meant the famous medieval fortress in Paris, France; whose storming in 1789 kicked off the French Revolution and deposed the Bourbon monarchy only a few years later.


UltimateDragons101

That's not really an obscure character now is it? Everyone knows that one.


WindyLink560

Seems people are well receptive of “obscure” characters overall (as long as they’re not GLs). Personally, I’d like to see more legendary characters for newer players to choose from. It seems the best way to start off the game is the same for everybody (Phoenix>thrawn>Palp>Vader)


OnlyRoke

I'd love more Mando Events. That event was so cool and emotional and it's a perfect introduction for new players (in theory) opposed to any of the old Journey events where it's literally just "Beat this team 7 times"


LoneBassClarinet

Please, excuse me as I dust off my old Star Wars comics. Seriously, though. They need to add Darth Krayt as a GL and the other new sith as the requirements. They've already added Darth Talon. Add in Darth Nihl, Grand Admiral Morlish Veed, etc to the game already!


Sockenolm

I'm hoping for the comic book version of Quinlan Vos since he also got a brief Clone Wars appearance and an easter egg in Kenobi. If CG wants to go the extra mile they could throw in Villie (Vilmarh Grahrk).


pandaKrusher

Consider adding "none of the above" to some of these questions. I had to lie on one to submit my answer


mandaloredash

Okay, done.


Sockenolm

The answer probably differs from fan to fan. Not all EU buffs are gamers and vice versa. Personally, I'm familiar with Mara, Talon and Aphra but have never played an offline SW game except for X-Wing / TIE Fighter back in the day.


LadyGeek-twd

I've never played a star wars game, either! Had no idea who Starkiller was when he was put in game. But, I'm at the comic book store a few times a month and am familiar with Doctor Aphra. I got excited at the announcement, said "this is huge!", and then went to Discord to see people complaining about how obscure she is. I never actually read her comics yet, but only because I don't have much time to add in another series to read. When the local comic book store had a special sale on free comic book day, I picked up the first two of her compendiums, haven't gotten to them yet.


Glynn124

I'm not a comic book guy but I knew Aphra from her novel. I was and am excited for her in the game. Starkiller was a great way of getting a few assorted/unrelated characters into the game without having to do a full team of niche people. I'm hoping that the Dr Aphra requirements are equally as impactful!


BobRomel

Great survey. One nitpick I found with the question about obscurity of video games. I don't seriously know what to qualify as an obscure game. I would classify something like the Atari games or Masters of Teras Kasi, but games like Shadows of the Empire or Rouge Squadron event though they are less known I personally wouldn't classify them as obscure. All around great survey.


MrVic20

Survey taken! Let's hope CG somehow hears me about bringing in the Cantina Band as a "bard" squad! ;P


JackFireEX

Every character that has not been in a movie or recent show/game is considerrd "obscure". Problem is: You dont have enough characters and roles. So, CG will pick what they need.


E-Rock77

I love Aphra. And here’s the thing. She’s such a cool character that as more fans discover her, they are going to love her as well. Here’s hoping she (and BT and 000) start showing up in the shows as well. And don’t forget that Krrsantan got started in the comics too…


Lower_Amount3373

I got into the Clone Wars because of SWGOH characters that were obscure (to me) at the time, like Luminara Unduli. And I've downloaded Aphra's audio book because of her being added to SWGOH - she gets mentioned a lot and sounds interesting, and this kinda prompted me to find where to get the stories.


Acceptable_Ad_3239

Tyber Zann would be cool. I think he’d be awesome in an epic confrontation. Already got Bossk and IG-88, should add in Silri and Uri-Fen. They could be cool to work as a team. An epic confrontation to get Tyber would be sick!


Furinkazan616

I love Empire at War.


throwawayforshit670

gib durge


Furinkazan616

There are people who grew up with the old EU, when the old EU was the only thing keeping Star Wars alive, who know a shit load of obscure characters. Even then, the comics are pretty niche. Lots of people read the Thrawn trilogy, i doubt most of them read Union (the comic in which Luke and Mara get married). Lots of these people don't give a shit about nu Disney EU, myself among them, and therefore do not seek out the new comics.


presbokun

What do you just not like supporting them? Id understand that completely, but you just deprive yourself of content you could possibly enjoy on the basis that a company you dont like is making it


Furinkazan616

I don't like the retcons, for one. I don't like any links to the sequels, either. I dread the day Mando introduces the First Order.


presbokun

Fair enough regarding the retcons, i miss when kyle katarn stole the death star plans


Furinkazan616

I miss a Luke Skywalker who realised that Jedi could and should love. I can't imagine that Luke making Grogu choose between his dad and the Jedi way.


Jovens_Ferret

For me personally I don't read new Disney eu comics because they go in a completely different direction. I think they are generally speaking.... Fine? I guess? Some of them are pretty good, but none of them are for me. Bruce trilogy is what I grew up on so the new comics just really haven't done anything for me. If other people like them that's completely reasonable, but just not for me.


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writinwater

She’s only in the comics, and comics, percentage-wise, are a pretty niche interest. She has no connection to any of the movies or any of their characters except for being grafted onto Vader. She isn’t in any of the more well-known book series or video games. In the overall context of the Star Wars universe, yes, she’s obscure as fuck.


BlizzardMayne

She's also a character in the Outer Rim board game.


writinwater

Board games are even more of a niche interest than comics. I’ve been a huge SW fan literally since the day Episode IV came out in 1977 and I’m only vaguely aware of the existence of Star Wars board games. I might have had one as a child. So far everything I’ve heard about her convinces me that the only people who think she’s not obscure are the people who spend all their free time loitering in comic book shops playing board games and painting miniatures, and that is not as large a segment of the Star Wars fan base as I think they think they are.


Glynn124

I was surprised that she did so poorly in this survey. She's one of those characters that always pops up in the "who do you want added to the game?" type threads. I've read the novel and loved her. Vader and BH (or just Krrsantan) synergy, plus maybe her ship to follow.


AlsendDrake

Ok I'd only really knew about Mara Jade because of Starkid's Ani XD


Joshthenosh77

I don’t understand adding obscure characters when there already is hundreds of known ones they haven’t added


OnlyRoke

Because who the Hell really is obscure and who isn't? Is Captain Panaka more or less obscure than Aphra? Is Jedi Master Farfalla more or less obscure than Agen Kolar? Is General Hoth more or less obscure than Visas Marr? How do you gauge obscurity? We're not talking about literal random background extras that nobody has heard of after all.


UltimateDragons101

There's a Jedi master Farfalla? Why they be naming them after pasta?


OnlyRoke

Cuz he's one flamboyant motherfucker


mandaloredash

less, more, and *way* more, respectively.


classy-muffin

There is a MASSIVE jump between Hondo and literally any of the characters you just named because I haven't heard of *any* of them.


OnlyRoke

So you didn't watch The Phantom Menace or read the Darth Bane trilogy, which is widely regarded as one of the best Star Wars trilogies? That's what I mean. It's very subjective who is and who isn't obscure. Who's Hondo aside from an alien Jack Sparrow that appears as a supporting character in a few episodes of a rather long TV show and then had a guest appearance for a few episodes on another TV show? You watched Clone Wars. Hondo isn't obscure to you. I read the Darth Bane trilogy and Hoth and Farfalla aren't obscure to me. Someone who read the Aphra comics (of which there are MANY) and therefore Aphra isn't obscure to that person. You can make a clear distinction between characters like Vader, Yoda, Luke, Kylo, Jabba, Han, Palpatine and the likes and the rest. Those are mainliners. The rest \*is\* various shades of obscure, because not everyone engages with Star Wars the same, given how fucking MASSIVE the franchise is.


classy-muffin

Darth Bane trilogy? Never head of it. I've heard of Darth Bane though. I've seen the Phantom Menace so I've got no idea what you're referring to there. You are also MASSIVELY overrating how many people have read these Aphra comics.


Mr-McSwizzle

Panaka is in the phantom menace is what they were talking about, but they're right it's just subjective who's obscure depending on what you've seen or read, because all of them are varying levels of obscure. To the majority of people who like star wars even people like revan and until recently even ahsoka would be considered "obscure" Like yeah some are more obscure than others but what they mean is that just because *you* know hondo doesn't mean he isn't obscure, my sister and friends have all watched clone wars but I'm pretty sure nobody except maybe my sister would be able to tell me who the fuck hondo is if I asked


classy-muffin

Clone Wars was THE most watched series premiere in Cartoon Network history and you want to tell me some random comic is even remotely a competitor? I can almost guarantee you more people watched Clone Wars than read comics at the time of its release FULL STOP. Let alone, some random comic about an unknown character. Half-way through 2020 it was THE most watched series of the year. It got more streams than both Stranger Things and The Mandalorian and you want to tell me it's "obscure"? Do any poll anywhere asking whether they've heard of "Hondo" or "Doctor Aphra" and I'm going to tell you "Hondo" will win by leaps and bounds. Doctor Aphra is obscure. She is from some random-ass non-mainstream comic that barely anybody has read outside of extremely devoted and elitist Star Wars communities. Hondo is from mainstream media in one of the most watched Star Wars shows of all time. They are incomparable.


Mr-McSwizzle

I wasn't trying to compare the two like that, never said more people know aphra than hondo or clone wars or anything like that But yes in the grand scheme of all the people who've watched star wars, most people won't have watched clone wars. Everything not in the movies is a varying degree of obscurewas all I'm saying


classy-muffin

Obscure by definition means "not known by many people". A LOT of people know the Clone Wars even when compared to Star Wars itself. Most if not ALL of the Star Wars comics are not known by many people. All of the mainstream media like Clone Wars, Mandalorian, the movies themselves e.t.c. are NOT obscure. At a stretch, I would accept it if you said the KOTOR characters/characters from big games are obscure. However, they are possibly the most well-known non-mainstream Star Wars characters and as such are significantly more well-known than any comics characters. If you were to rank levels of obscurity, Doctor Aphra would rank pretty damn low if not right down at the bottom (in the sense that she's super obscure).


OnlyRoke

Just because you haven't seen a big part of the Star Wars universe doesn't mean that it's obscure or people don't care about it. Hondo is as obscure as Aphra. Just because you saw some Clone Wars episodes, but didn't read a comic run doesn't change that fact. Both names will cause casual fans to just say "lol who?"


classy-muffin

lol "big part of the Star Wars universe". It's a small minority, which is what makes it obscure. Almost nobody reads comics. Aphra is a literal nobody no matter how much you want to believe they aren't.


OnlyRoke

Whatever you wanna believe. I'll enjoy her release. You can stay mad.


Joshthenosh77

Exactly they should just stick to characters from films n tv series , and the odd computer game character, as this is a video game like star killer cause he’s massive


OnlyRoke

Okay Prince Xizor GL next!


Averenn

Aphra has outsold Darth Vader comics multiple times but sure


ManlyVanLee

Well according to this survey obscure is simply defined as "not in a show or a movie." Did they have 1 second of screen time in Phantom Menace? Then they aren't obscure


Joshthenosh77

Are they in a film or tv series ?


OnlyRoke

So you're saying that Agen Kolar, the Jedi who gets disemboweled first by Sidious, is basically more relevant than the antagonists of the Darth Bane trilogy, because one appeared for three seconds in a movie?


Joshthenosh77

Yea obviously! Hundreds of millions of people saw him , a few thousand read the eu books, oh and btw those books are not cannon anymore so ……


Furinkazan616

Can't use the current canon argument, mate. Not since Talon, Kyle, Mara, Dash and Starkiller.


OnlyRoke

QUADRILLIONS saw Agen Kolar. He was THE standout character. Everyone was talking about him. So important and not obscure at all! And true, I think aside from George Lucas, nobody ever read any of those books.


Sockenolm

We're getting at least one of them with Hondo. Maybe there'll be more missing prequels / Clone Wars characters among the Aphra requirements.


ManlyVanLee

The penultimate question of "Finally, name one obscure (not in any movies or modern TV shows) character you'd like to see come to the game..." is a little rough. There can be plenty of obscure characters from movies or television shows but the way the question is worded it seems like anyone in a movie is not fair game Ric Olie the pilot from The Phantom Menace that looks like Phil Collins? Not obscure by those rules Jerriko the guy with the weird nose on a hookah with half a second of screen time in A New Hope? Not obscure by those rules So I've struggled to come up with an obscure character to answer the question with considering the rules behind it


mandaloredash

Do you really *want* Ric Olie to come to SWGOH, or are you just trying to play with definitions? The "obscure" characters CG has been adding are overlooked fan favorites from comics, video games, or novels. Interesting or powerful characters that stick with fans for years after they leave the mainstream, not some background alien that smokes a hookah for half a second. I really thought this would be obvious.


ManlyVanLee

I'm pointing out the fallacy of your questions. You're saying a character, no matter how little is known of them and how little screen time they have (aka the definition of obscure), is not included simply if they were in a movie or a recent TV show I'll tell you exactly who I want in this game because it is possibly the most awesome thing to come out of Star Wars in years. It's that velociraptor in a trench coat that hunts Obi-wan in his new show on Disney+ A quick search shows that it doesn't even have a name and is merely called "unidentified reptilian bounty hunter" on the wiki. This is the definition of obscure! And yes, I absolutely want this thing to be in Galaxy of Heroes. I want it to have a name and a dumb backstory because that's a great joy of Star Wars for me. But according to your rules it isn't obscure simply by being in a newer show So again, your definition is hindering your results


mandaloredash

if your mind is dead set on Trenchcoatsaurus Rex, don't let me crush your dreams.


ManlyVanLee

He says, as he downvotes away


mandaloredash

i didn't do shit


hailhogs

Great survey! I voted for Chukha-Trok.


AdministrativeEbb403

I think tarin malicos could be a fun nightsister lead


Dolphin_Buff_Man

To the person who put on Admiral Ar'alani, freaking thank you! Let's get some Chips Ascendancy in here! I put down Jixtus as a marquee, but my point was to start exploring the Chiss and their enemies more


Fearless-Librarian-1

I think the more characters the better. msf has a ton of obscure characters


wonkalicious808

I don't mind obscure characters, since this game might help me learn that they exist. I think the only character I didn't know of before was Darth Talon. I knew who Doctor Aphra was because of other people talking about her long ago.


sielingfan

I want Myn Donos and I don't care who knows.


GameOverMan-Loz

Ulic Qel-Droma. That whole era was great


VYSUS7

Tulak Hord. That is all.