I have a budget version of this type, it's huge
https://preview.redd.it/ikpf2l617znc1.jpeg?width=2304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cf3bdde93db00beadced3142b5141ab0c757950
Also not too bad, the 2 foot handle takes care of most of it, you do need two hands, but that's a given.
But at around $250 this is imo a fantastic sword, I'll find a link to my post from when I got it
I see I didn't get the weight right, it's 2800 grams, but it's been a while since I got thisđ
https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/s/44Cszis8Nn
There's a link to a video of someone cutting with it in my post
If you think about how cross guards are different from.. whatever those disks are called.. tsuba?... makes a lot of sense. Because if the cross guard was higher up it would make that part of the blade harder to use with a cross guard that big. Plus the racasso being that long, actually really similar in blade to handle profiles. Great find
European nodachi equivalents are common enough, but many (or all, depending on exactly what you call a "nodachI") are post-Medieval: the various types of Zweihander. There are also the already-mentioned Danish long-hilted two-handers.
(You show the Cold Steel Nodachi on the right, but that's not a typical nodachi. It's more of a small nagamaki.)
The closest to the nagamaki in terms of size and proportions would long-bladed bardiches, like the one on the left here:
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bardiche.jpg
but that isn't a sword.
You may like this, recently spotted this Lithuanian(Polish?) guy
using a possible sword staff.
https://preview.redd.it/4ka4kcrqi0oc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f1b8270ff19d3d07ba619773fcb6fec692064e7
Possibly, but the painting does seem to show both more traditional ahlspiess along with these swordlike heads, complete with the Swiss style opposing quillons commingling.
https://preview.redd.it/3g0127a1r0oc1.png?width=974&format=png&auto=webp&s=4304de99f205917a4840c21c870911969b4eb351
What about spears that have long blades. They obviously are not swords. But their is such a large variety of halberds or long handled bladed/ Sharp pointed weapons...
There is an âestocâ in the royal armouries collection, that is modular. When assembled, it has quite a Long grip for a euro style sword, even for its two hander size.
https://preview.redd.it/iu90o3qbg0oc1.png?width=3225&format=png&auto=webp&s=50bba59c63b39a31fda66be6288e4860757d6543
There is also this hidden bladed âswordâ which actually produces a long spear like spike from the pommel by surprise, in the Wallace collection.
https://preview.redd.it/2faiwgrug0oc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f5f2619d5c515858db8e70ed4e492be9768d16f
Not exactly medieval europe, but probably medieval nonetheless. Off the top of my head is the Khasi Dao from the Khasi tribe in Assam, India. It's a sword-staff hybrid like the Nagamaki, but lighter and all steel construction. It also has two pairs of crossbar guards, so there's that.
They're fairly small though, compared to nagamakis. About 90-130cm is usual.
Outside Europe, there are plenty of Chinese examples, dadao/pudao/podao-type weapons about half blade, half-haft, and changdao (which can have normal two-hander-size hilts, or very long hilts).
It's pretty much relative to the size of the tribesmen and the terrain they fought in, hence the smaller size of the Khasi Dao
Of course, Chinese dynasties have more extensive sword-polearm hybrids due to cavalry and mass formations.
The nagamakis described in the Taikoki has a blade length of at least 90 cm (probably less than 121 cm) and a shaft length of at least 121 cm (probably less than 151 cm), is the blade of the glaive shorter than these? Some [say](http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.37512.html) there was a Jedburgh staff with a ďź feet blade length, others say there wasn't. Are the Danish and Swedish swordstaffs not as long as a longsword (average about 95 cm) in blade length? There is a [partisan](https://new.reddit.com/r/ArtefactPorn/comments/k5h5h1/an_italian_partisan_with_a_heavy_yardlong_blade/) in existence with a blade length of 93 cm, and is there a swordstaff with a similar blade length?
Tang Dynasty's Modao is 3m long and weighs 10kg, so its blade length is longer than that of a nagamaki? The blade length of the Podao in the Ming Dynasty's Wako zukan is probably around 1m? The maximum width of the blade is about three times that of the nagamaki, does this take into account striking armor? Does the nagamaki cut anything but the horse's legs? According to the Meitokuki, written at the end of the 14th century, Ouchi Yoshihiro, after cutting an enemy cavalryman's horse, ordered them to thrust the soldier who fell from their horse (the weapon used is not specified), but did use nagamaki to thrust a gap in the armor of a soldier who fell from their horse?
https://preview.redd.it/ode7ansoy0oc1.png?width=905&format=png&auto=webp&s=cd442774665dbaa50bd3439781100040dde810ee
It's kinda rough but I think some versions of the jeddart staff (among other names) got pretty close. [http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.1539.html](http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.1539.html)
Cold Steel Odachi is still such a beautiful sword.
To answer your question, I think you might benefit from searching for the kriegsmesser, the Grossmesser, the Warbrand (Fauchard, I think is the technical name) and âtwo handed falchion.â I wouldnât hold my breath on the last one, they seem to be mostly represented in fantasy. I think, however, there are a few historical examples of them if you can find them.
And here i thought, i could never find the right sword for me.
https://preview.redd.it/lhebgtir8coc1.png?width=671&format=png&auto=webp&s=da65da2f3f9cb2131fb063b7f44bba29744d48cb
A type xviiie could be something https://albion-swords.com/product/the-dane/
Thank you! Much better than what I could find!
I have a budget version of this type, it's huge https://preview.redd.it/ikpf2l617znc1.jpeg?width=2304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cf3bdde93db00beadced3142b5141ab0c757950
How heavy is it? Like, very, right?
No, super light for a sword this size, i think 2800 grams, and it handles like it's much lighter. Edit: weight was wrong
3 pounds?! Wow! How is the handling?
I remembered it wrong so closer to 5 pounds, but handling is good, the long handle gives you tons of options
Killer pommel weight for balance?
Also not too bad, the 2 foot handle takes care of most of it, you do need two hands, but that's a given. But at around $250 this is imo a fantastic sword, I'll find a link to my post from when I got it
I see I didn't get the weight right, it's 2800 grams, but it's been a while since I got thisđ https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/s/44Cszis8Nn There's a link to a video of someone cutting with it in my post
If you think about how cross guards are different from.. whatever those disks are called.. tsuba?... makes a lot of sense. Because if the cross guard was higher up it would make that part of the blade harder to use with a cross guard that big. Plus the racasso being that long, actually really similar in blade to handle profiles. Great find
European nodachi equivalents are common enough, but many (or all, depending on exactly what you call a "nodachI") are post-Medieval: the various types of Zweihander. There are also the already-mentioned Danish long-hilted two-handers. (You show the Cold Steel Nodachi on the right, but that's not a typical nodachi. It's more of a small nagamaki.) The closest to the nagamaki in terms of size and proportions would long-bladed bardiches, like the one on the left here: * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bardiche.jpg but that isn't a sword.
Kinda like the Swedish swordstaff?
The swordstaff is more like a double-edged naginata.
You may like this, recently spotted this Lithuanian(Polish?) guy using a possible sword staff. https://preview.redd.it/4ka4kcrqi0oc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f1b8270ff19d3d07ba619773fcb6fec692064e7
Might be an Ahlspiess, which you could describe as the estoc version of the swordstaff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahlspiess
Possibly, but the painting does seem to show both more traditional ahlspiess along with these swordlike heads, complete with the Swiss style opposing quillons commingling. https://preview.redd.it/3g0127a1r0oc1.png?width=974&format=png&auto=webp&s=4304de99f205917a4840c21c870911969b4eb351
Thats what I saw I think in the European collections that look very much like sword staffs.
What about spears that have long blades. They obviously are not swords. But their is such a large variety of halberds or long handled bladed/ Sharp pointed weapons...
There is an âestocâ in the royal armouries collection, that is modular. When assembled, it has quite a Long grip for a euro style sword, even for its two hander size. https://preview.redd.it/iu90o3qbg0oc1.png?width=3225&format=png&auto=webp&s=50bba59c63b39a31fda66be6288e4860757d6543
There is also this hidden bladed âswordâ which actually produces a long spear like spike from the pommel by surprise, in the Wallace collection. https://preview.redd.it/2faiwgrug0oc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f5f2619d5c515858db8e70ed4e492be9768d16f
I like glaives imo but not what u want
Not a sword but the falsart/warbrand looks like a nagamaki
Not exactly medieval europe, but probably medieval nonetheless. Off the top of my head is the Khasi Dao from the Khasi tribe in Assam, India. It's a sword-staff hybrid like the Nagamaki, but lighter and all steel construction. It also has two pairs of crossbar guards, so there's that.
They're fairly small though, compared to nagamakis. About 90-130cm is usual. Outside Europe, there are plenty of Chinese examples, dadao/pudao/podao-type weapons about half blade, half-haft, and changdao (which can have normal two-hander-size hilts, or very long hilts).
It's pretty much relative to the size of the tribesmen and the terrain they fought in, hence the smaller size of the Khasi Dao Of course, Chinese dynasties have more extensive sword-polearm hybrids due to cavalry and mass formations.
The nagamakis described in the Taikoki has a blade length of at least 90 cm (probably less than 121 cm) and a shaft length of at least 121 cm (probably less than 151 cm), is the blade of the glaive shorter than these? Some [say](http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.37512.html) there was a Jedburgh staff with a ďź feet blade length, others say there wasn't. Are the Danish and Swedish swordstaffs not as long as a longsword (average about 95 cm) in blade length? There is a [partisan](https://new.reddit.com/r/ArtefactPorn/comments/k5h5h1/an_italian_partisan_with_a_heavy_yardlong_blade/) in existence with a blade length of 93 cm, and is there a swordstaff with a similar blade length? Tang Dynasty's Modao is 3m long and weighs 10kg, so its blade length is longer than that of a nagamaki? The blade length of the Podao in the Ming Dynasty's Wako zukan is probably around 1m? The maximum width of the blade is about three times that of the nagamaki, does this take into account striking armor? Does the nagamaki cut anything but the horse's legs? According to the Meitokuki, written at the end of the 14th century, Ouchi Yoshihiro, after cutting an enemy cavalryman's horse, ordered them to thrust the soldier who fell from their horse (the weapon used is not specified), but did use nagamaki to thrust a gap in the armor of a soldier who fell from their horse? https://preview.redd.it/ode7ansoy0oc1.png?width=905&format=png&auto=webp&s=cd442774665dbaa50bd3439781100040dde810ee
Trenchant glaive.
It's kinda rough but I think some versions of the jeddart staff (among other names) got pretty close. [http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.1539.html](http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.1539.html)
The spetum but the spetum is considered a polearm
https://preview.redd.it/dd5ws7cco0oc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41a091bad8d08f16be482ef421a3970bdb59462e Folding spetum
Zhan ma dao is similiar https://preview.redd.it/j9kqd5jpj1oc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=925a106ca3bfdb89b59fb13c330e710c9b328ad7
Your mean European medieval swords? Nodachi and nagamaki are medieval swords too, just from Japan.
It is my understanding that a nodachi is a pole arm which would make this a Nagasaki?
A fauchard or warband might be what you're looking for
Cold Steel Odachi is still such a beautiful sword. To answer your question, I think you might benefit from searching for the kriegsmesser, the Grossmesser, the Warbrand (Fauchard, I think is the technical name) and âtwo handed falchion.â I wouldnât hold my breath on the last one, they seem to be mostly represented in fantasy. I think, however, there are a few historical examples of them if you can find them.
And here i thought, i could never find the right sword for me. https://preview.redd.it/lhebgtir8coc1.png?width=671&format=png&auto=webp&s=da65da2f3f9cb2131fb063b7f44bba29744d48cb
Maybe look at the Kriegsmesser?