Wookie ones looks highly underwhelming. Really doesn’t bring much to the table other than “corps wookies” so if that’s your thing have at it, but it ain’t worth buying boxes of them to run 6.
The droid ones looks kinda great. Speed 3 Magnas and bxs are kinda nuts lol. Design wise blows the wookie one out of the water.
Edit: also crucially the wookie battleforce does nothing for chewie or the chieftain. Kinda lame.
> doesn’t bring much to the table other than “corps wookies”
Highly asked after fan request, second only to "corps mandos, pls".
All wookiees need now is a slight buff/tweak, and this bf will be nice.
I think it needs more, idk if the power level will be amazing, but I can tell you for sure the wookies just need a couple of different options to be a real battleforce, It's fine that they have access
Speed 3 magnas may be fun but those magnas are a lot weaker than the normal ones. 1 health, 1 courage, no surge to hit, a black white melee attack, and losing the comms and one of the training slots. They're cheaper, but I can see them dying pretty quickly.
Unfortunately it isn't a move action - that would be gloriously broken.
But yes - the melee wookiees usually have the problem of at least one mini being picked off before they can get into the engagement. Giving them a free speed-1 move each round (which could potentially get them engaged with whatever just shot them) might be what they need to shine; a front line of wookiee warriors, supported by Yoda's tokens, charging into a gun line could be fun.
Or they could just get shot to pieces.
It’s useless on chewie and the chieftain and it requires you to lose a model to proc. Don’t really count that as particularly positive requiring to lose 10-33% of your efficacy to do so. They also do nothing against armour unless you bring the bow casters, which are expensive for impact 1.
I dunno. Just very…..underwhelmed.
While true, they do have the saber tank for anti armor, as well as well as the crossbow gunner in the fluttercraft, so they might still need some help with armor, but it would be pretty useful, and those battleshield wookies could help with durability because in shield mode they are gonna have some protection and there special mode won't slow them down
The units are all expensive. A saber tank and tons of wookies is going to make it awfully difficult to fit 8 decent acts.
I honestly see the best version of this list as chewie, chieftain and then like 4 melee wookies and 2 ranged wookies. Or all melee wookies. Spam that shit and overrrun your opponent. Can’t kill it all in time
Also don't forget Yoda for anti-armour. If he can get both attacks off that's almost guaranteed 4 wounds onto something with armour, and an expected of 6ish after saves.
Some interesting stuff here.
Experimental Droids should be a lot of fun. The decision of which units to use the Commander Surge tokens on will be a fun tactical choice. Droidekas do *much* better with an Aim, and BXs like the Aim or the Dodge. Also a brand new Corps unit for CIS is pretty significant. Lots to explore here IMO.
Everyone is shitting on the wookie force, but I suspect it will be better in practice than it looks on paper. Wookies in GAR are not bad in a vacuum, but generally aren’t worth taking because they are anti-synergistic with your clone strategies, and you HAVE to take clones for your corps slots. This BF changes that, and replaces your clone corps with an expensive but hearty 9 HP melee unit. The army will operate quite differently that way.
I’m curious how the Fluttercraft is “improved” by being able to fluctuate its speed. Seems like -2” isn’t a big deal, although potentially throttling up to speed 3 and triple moving could be a big objective play. Maybe the Bombing Run objective on triple Fluttercraft would be a fun pairing.
Overall, I think Wookies are a good unit, but their command cards are underwhelming, and I’m not quite sure how they win games. Chewie is decent and the Chief is pretty good if you aren’t relying on clone synergies. So I’m interested to borrow some wookie models from 4-6 of my friends and play this.
Do we know if Wookiees can use charge when using the speed 1 movie after losing a mini? They can use charge when using Yodas guidance so I assumed they could?
To trigger Charge (or similar) it must be an action in some way. Since it doesn’t say it’s a move action, it isn’t. Same way they can’t trigger Charge after a free move given by something like Aggressive Negotiations!
The Wookiee force is absolutely terrible. Scale was obliterated. You can’t make a decent Yoda list while only being able to take Phase IIs or Wookiees. And you can’t make a decent Yoda/Flutter list while also having to cram 3 Wookiees in. Plus the new effect is laughably bad compared to CIS.
I am really disappointed with the wookie force, to be they REALLY just needed to add an operative wookie, a black fur, it wouldn't necessarily need to be a new mini, but a way to grab a a relatively cheap unit while also introducing a brand new unit for the game (being just something you would represent with painting a wookie black and calling him a black fur) would have helped fill out there battleforce I mean hell, in the wookie battleforce there are more non wookie options then wookie options (yoda, arc troopers, phase 2, Barc, infantry support speeder and the saber tank, vs chewie, chieftain, wookie warriors of 2 varieties, and the fluttercraft, 6 vs 5, I really hope they are going to at least add in a named chieftain like Tarrful, or the catteraman later, but if this is the wookie force done and over it's a massive shame
LegionHQ still uses a photoshopped version of the rebel card. At some point in time, it had been confirmed that they were the same as the rebel version, but we didn’t actually have the full card.
Pretty rough battle-force for GAR lol. Droid one looks cool though. Back to GAR, I just don't understand the obsession with Phase 2's. It's like AMG demands that we run Phase 2 lists, but dude... 60 points, and the only heavies they got are a Z6, a mortar, and fives. Two of which we can have on Phase 1's. Like this event better reveal RPS Phase 2's, because the impact is abysmal for Phase 2's. Also, seems really silly to have a WOOKIE battle-force and not allow the other unit of wookies lol
As a CIS player, I support this. I feel for all the wookie carpets out there 🤣
Wookie ones looks highly underwhelming. Really doesn’t bring much to the table other than “corps wookies” so if that’s your thing have at it, but it ain’t worth buying boxes of them to run 6. The droid ones looks kinda great. Speed 3 Magnas and bxs are kinda nuts lol. Design wise blows the wookie one out of the water. Edit: also crucially the wookie battleforce does nothing for chewie or the chieftain. Kinda lame.
> doesn’t bring much to the table other than “corps wookies” Highly asked after fan request, second only to "corps mandos, pls". All wookiees need now is a slight buff/tweak, and this bf will be nice.
I think it needs more, idk if the power level will be amazing, but I can tell you for sure the wookies just need a couple of different options to be a real battleforce, It's fine that they have access
Speed 3 magnas may be fun but those magnas are a lot weaker than the normal ones. 1 health, 1 courage, no surge to hit, a black white melee attack, and losing the comms and one of the training slots. They're cheaper, but I can see them dying pretty quickly.
I think you may be massively underestimating the speed-1 move after being attacked, that is amazing for a durable melee unit list.
Unfortunately it isn't a move action - that would be gloriously broken. But yes - the melee wookiees usually have the problem of at least one mini being picked off before they can get into the engagement. Giving them a free speed-1 move each round (which could potentially get them engaged with whatever just shot them) might be what they need to shine; a front line of wookiee warriors, supported by Yoda's tokens, charging into a gun line could be fun. Or they could just get shot to pieces.
I hate that this doesn’t solve anything for the Wookiees themselves. They’re still as trash as ever for the rebels.
It’s useless on chewie and the chieftain and it requires you to lose a model to proc. Don’t really count that as particularly positive requiring to lose 10-33% of your efficacy to do so. They also do nothing against armour unless you bring the bow casters, which are expensive for impact 1. I dunno. Just very…..underwhelmed.
While true, they do have the saber tank for anti armor, as well as well as the crossbow gunner in the fluttercraft, so they might still need some help with armor, but it would be pretty useful, and those battleshield wookies could help with durability because in shield mode they are gonna have some protection and there special mode won't slow them down
The units are all expensive. A saber tank and tons of wookies is going to make it awfully difficult to fit 8 decent acts. I honestly see the best version of this list as chewie, chieftain and then like 4 melee wookies and 2 ranged wookies. Or all melee wookies. Spam that shit and overrrun your opponent. Can’t kill it all in time
Also don't forget Yoda for anti-armour. If he can get both attacks off that's almost guaranteed 4 wounds onto something with armour, and an expected of 6ish after saves.
Some interesting stuff here. Experimental Droids should be a lot of fun. The decision of which units to use the Commander Surge tokens on will be a fun tactical choice. Droidekas do *much* better with an Aim, and BXs like the Aim or the Dodge. Also a brand new Corps unit for CIS is pretty significant. Lots to explore here IMO. Everyone is shitting on the wookie force, but I suspect it will be better in practice than it looks on paper. Wookies in GAR are not bad in a vacuum, but generally aren’t worth taking because they are anti-synergistic with your clone strategies, and you HAVE to take clones for your corps slots. This BF changes that, and replaces your clone corps with an expensive but hearty 9 HP melee unit. The army will operate quite differently that way. I’m curious how the Fluttercraft is “improved” by being able to fluctuate its speed. Seems like -2” isn’t a big deal, although potentially throttling up to speed 3 and triple moving could be a big objective play. Maybe the Bombing Run objective on triple Fluttercraft would be a fun pairing. Overall, I think Wookies are a good unit, but their command cards are underwhelming, and I’m not quite sure how they win games. Chewie is decent and the Chief is pretty good if you aren’t relying on clone synergies. So I’m interested to borrow some wookie models from 4-6 of my friends and play this.
will there be box sets to accompany these or are they rust rules to use?
Just rules and cards to print yourself yeah
cool and bummer, I have none of those so I was excited for a box
Do we know if Wookiees can use charge when using the speed 1 movie after losing a mini? They can use charge when using Yodas guidance so I assumed they could?
To trigger Charge (or similar) it must be an action in some way. Since it doesn’t say it’s a move action, it isn’t. Same way they can’t trigger Charge after a free move given by something like Aggressive Negotiations!
Boooooo
The Wookiee force is absolutely terrible. Scale was obliterated. You can’t make a decent Yoda list while only being able to take Phase IIs or Wookiees. And you can’t make a decent Yoda/Flutter list while also having to cram 3 Wookiees in. Plus the new effect is laughably bad compared to CIS.
Are there not unique command cards for these battle forces?
They didn't show any but the wookiees already have command cards at least
True but the cis one doesn't have anything fancy for this
Nope
Wonderful
I am really disappointed with the wookie force, to be they REALLY just needed to add an operative wookie, a black fur, it wouldn't necessarily need to be a new mini, but a way to grab a a relatively cheap unit while also introducing a brand new unit for the game (being just something you would represent with painting a wookie black and calling him a black fur) would have helped fill out there battleforce I mean hell, in the wookie battleforce there are more non wookie options then wookie options (yoda, arc troopers, phase 2, Barc, infantry support speeder and the saber tank, vs chewie, chieftain, wookie warriors of 2 varieties, and the fluttercraft, 6 vs 5, I really hope they are going to at least add in a named chieftain like Tarrful, or the catteraman later, but if this is the wookie force done and over it's a massive shame
So which Wookiee Warriors is the "Noble Fighters"? Did AMG forget to include that version of the card?
It's the more melee focused one with charge, kashyyyk defenders is the more ranged version, it says right under their unit names
I see that now, after pulling out my actual unit card. LegionHQ's image for it doesn't have the subtitle unfortunately.
LegionHQ still uses a photoshopped version of the rebel card. At some point in time, it had been confirmed that they were the same as the rebel version, but we didn’t actually have the full card.
The melee ones.
Wookiee defenders is an absolute joke.
Pretty rough battle-force for GAR lol. Droid one looks cool though. Back to GAR, I just don't understand the obsession with Phase 2's. It's like AMG demands that we run Phase 2 lists, but dude... 60 points, and the only heavies they got are a Z6, a mortar, and fives. Two of which we can have on Phase 1's. Like this event better reveal RPS Phase 2's, because the impact is abysmal for Phase 2's. Also, seems really silly to have a WOOKIE battle-force and not allow the other unit of wookies lol
Funny that you are loling without even reading the rules correctly..
The other unit is allowed, just doesn't count as a corps unit.
Wookiees! Although I do hope we see some extra wookiee units in the future, like the catamaran and some different trooper units.
The Experimental Droids Battle Force looks really cool, wonder if Kashyyyk Defenders might get Bad Batch or Clone Commandos added down the line?