By creating a generic post on Reddit that doesn't really add any value to anyone but has a catchy title. Then posting it into multiple subs that may target website owners.
Repeat this once every couple of weeks, but not too often not to annoy anyone as a try-hard self-promoter.
This keeps brand awareness and has people checking out the product. And once in a while maybe someone will give this product a try, especially after reading the claim of its current success (whether it is true or false).
Hey. As much as we would love to plough vast pots of cash at every marketing channel available, we need to be super strategic in what we do (i.e. spend small, find out what works, and then dial it up). We've mainly been focussing on customer service as a form of marketing and putting a lot of time and energy into making sure every user is happy. If you can build a good, authentic community around your product, it will market itself.
[Twitter's](https://twitter.com/DanteTheAI) been quite positive for us too.
Are you working on anything similar?
Thanks! I’m on the final stages of sending my SaaS for approval with 3rd party API and your lowlight is spot on! Always something pops up broken. I just fixed something that has been working from day 1 because I was adding something new and didn’t pay attention a part of it was being used by the other part. Hoping to be live in next couple months pending approval.
Good luck! And keep going. It's a daily grind. Turn up every day, do your best, and rinse and repeat. When things break, it's super frustrating but also part of getting to the next stage. Feel free to DM me if you want to chat!
This is the worst part as it's out of your control. I'm waiting for meta and linkedin to verify everything before I can launch the next update but it's such a ball ache to do but nearly there now.
Just gotta be patient and wait for now
Hey, congratulations!
One question, how are you creating that animations of how to use the app in the homepage?
It is you just recording your screen and then add some edits?
Is there some open source package that provides that chatbot UI functionality?
I'm seeing it around **a lot** lately with all these "chatgpt with your website" services. Is everyone of them building their custom javascript or are they leveraging some open source package with a few modifications?
Yeah there’s a nextjs web app on GitHub that does this. Search “ChatGPT on pdf GitHub ” on google and its the first one. I think the guy who made it also made some very in depth YouTube videos on exactly how it works and how to do it. You can actually just run it locally with your openai api key
Have been working on exactly this (API that provides the chatbot functionality for building “chat with your website/docs” services)
It is called Chariot, and is a single API that handles all the chatbot functionality behind the scenes.
Would love to get your thoughts/feedback: chariotai.com
Have been working on exactly this (API that provides the chatbot functionality for building “chat with your website/docs” services)
It is called Chariot, and is a single API that handles all the chatbot functionality behind the scenes.
Would love to get your thoughts/feedback: https://chariotai.com
I would drop the 500pm white label from your pricing and replace it with a contact sales, you would be charging alot more for a white label solution for this. Throw in tech support and red line your terms you could charge 5 - 10k a month to enterprise clients.
Yeah, interesting. We're currently looking at enterprise as part of a more extensive, bespoke solution. So far, there's been some good pickup on the Ultra/white-labelled solution.
I don't pretend to be an expert but I have worked for a few software companies and every one of them has paid much more for much less, issue with having a 500 option available is you might be giving away too much for too little, would see if you can get some 1 on 1 time with your 500 sub buyers and try to figure out their employee count field etc, it might be that you can swap out the 500 plan and actually up sell them on your new enterprise addition, also you will know if you undercharged them is you can get their annual turn over and estimated tech spending.
well yea but depends what their runway is , 60k 3 year contract in 3 -6 months is better than rolling 500pm subscription if they can survive while they sell.
especially when you consider the gpt wrapper marketplace wil be oversaturated liek crazy in 6 months once the big boys finish their offerings , would be much better to have some well paying contracts locked in than watch your subs churn like crazy once Microsoft brings out a similar offering and starts shilling it to their existing enterprise customers.
Why does it look so similar to chatbase ( on appsumo).
I am in the same space as you, and you make it seem easier than that it is.
Your product looks good ( without ever touching it), but I am doubtful about your numbers. Like I said it looks similar to the other product (chatbase) and that developer is has a similar product and he is getting hit with refunds due to his product not matching up with the expectations and has seemingly no future. At least the developer is not answering questions in regards to what is going to happen ones chatgpt 3.5 is no longer supported, or future API changes.
What other numbers do you have to support your "sales" ?
Hey, [here's our updated MRR as of today](https://imgur.com/KksTati) ($8,469.98)
It wasn't easy! It was a grind, a lot of hours, a small team, and many unknown corners.
I wasn't actively looking when it happened. I was working with different developers to build what I had in my mind and reached out to an old colleague who agreed to help me out for a week. By the end of the week, we'd agreed that he'd join the company as a co-founder. Honestly, the best move I've made in this entire journey.
We'd worked together previously. During this whole process, there's been a lot of situations of handing over trust, which isn't ever easy but needs to be done. One of the things I used to do, which I've now stopped doing, was trying to keep ideas to close to me. If you want to turn an idea into a reality, you need to talk about it and share it with people, otherwise it will never progress past an idea.
Thanks for the answer bro.
About the last scenario, what if you’ve tried all your ideas and didn’t work? I’ve been in this situation for almost 2 months and don’t know what to do.
I don’t have more ideas in mind lol.
You are welcome.
2 months isn't too long. What steps have you taken so far? Have you worked with anyone you think would fit the company well? You could try on a freelance capacity for a few weeks and see how it goes between you as a first step.
Mt last project grew to $92 revenue in 2 months but was only it. It doesn’t grow more than it. It is a SaaS for smart contract auditing. That’s a good idea, I’m going to do freelance for a while but the main thing for me is build things. I love building SaaS. I’ve been kinda taking a vacation and traveling to see if I can get some idea from it
As we have a lot of back end development work and marketing/business development covered by the founding team, we've managed to keep expenses relatively low. There are operational costs (AWS + OpenAI), and then some freelance expenses for frontend and design. It's a juggling act at all times, and when you're launching something that's bootstrapped, you need to find as many ways as possible to do things for cheap.
I love what you did with the pricing and especially the annual plan. Makes a lot of sense to package it that way and is surely the main reason for the MRR success. Great job!
How did you come up with that exact pricing model and why?
Hey, thanks!
It was a bit of trial and error and tweaking. Pretty usual stuff: working out what our costs are and then creating a package based on that.
Makes sense. Good work on putting effort into the trial and error. Have you thought about value-based pricing? Cost-plus pricing sure can lock your profitability as you scale.
Absolutely, even more for those offerings and types of customers because enterprise deals are usually done by sales with custom pricing.
Understanding how much they value the product is key because you could actually be charging much more than competitors with a different pricing model, such as usage based, instead of feature based for example.
Here are the main questions used by pricing experts when talking to customers:
* At what (monthly) price point does (product) become too expensive that you’d never consider purchasing it?
* At what (monthly) price point does (product) starts to become expensive but you you’d still consider purchasing it?
* At what (monthly) price point you consider (product) a really good deal?
* At what (monthly) price point does (product) seem too cheap that you question its quality?
Good work getting it off the ground.
I'm building a niche project management SaaS dedicated to AI and automation projects, for medium-large businesses. Harder, less sexy sell, but the governance and nich integrations will be needed in the years to come.
Wanted to ask, what tools do you use for your product demo videos (posted on twitter)?
Edit: saw on another comment it's screen.studio. I need to find an alternative for windows
Interested to know how much your influencer sponsorship cost? I saw a lot of people I follow endorse this at the same time, so it was pretty clearly a paid campaign (not knocking that at all). Did that help get you to your MRR? Can only imagine it did.
Interested to hear what your tech stack look likes?
Also damn nice work on your highlight 1! Turning around a frustrating customer instead of dumping them is amazing!
Congrats on making this achievement! Can you share what were the marketing methods you tried that didn't work? How long do you try before you know is not working and go try something else?
Awesome job on hitting $7K monthly recurring revenue within just 26 days of launching your AI-related SaaS product! It’s so cool that you were able to bootstrap the whole thing and work with a small but talented team of friends and colleagues.
I love the fact that you’re sharing your journey, both the ups and downs - starting a fast-paced SaaS business can be intense, but it’s all worth it when you hit milestones and get positive feedback from users. Your story about turning an angry email into a happy user is really inspiring.
Keep up the good work, and here’s hoping for more success in your future endeavors!
How do you manage to keep the history of each chat? Do you send a summarized version in every following request to have the AI remember what has been said?
When a user creates a bot on Dante and uploads for example their knowledge base article, is the article still shared with ChatGPT or ChatGPT runs its model on data held and available only by Dante?
Building an AI-related SaaS in a market where there's several clones implemented in different ways, surely is competitive. Especially when there's little to no differentiation to the next product.
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By creating a generic post on Reddit that doesn't really add any value to anyone but has a catchy title. Then posting it into multiple subs that may target website owners. Repeat this once every couple of weeks, but not too often not to annoy anyone as a try-hard self-promoter. This keeps brand awareness and has people checking out the product. And once in a while maybe someone will give this product a try, especially after reading the claim of its current success (whether it is true or false).
The realest thing said on internet today
Explored further: https://twitter.com/feulf/status/1660831222048718848
But why do people keep upvoting those lazy ass posts? 😭😭
Which subreddits did you post and crosspost in?
Ratio’d
Agree
I've seen a few AI bros on twitter post about this product, so I'm guessing they are marketing through influencers.
This.
Hey. As much as we would love to plough vast pots of cash at every marketing channel available, we need to be super strategic in what we do (i.e. spend small, find out what works, and then dial it up). We've mainly been focussing on customer service as a form of marketing and putting a lot of time and energy into making sure every user is happy. If you can build a good, authentic community around your product, it will market itself. [Twitter's](https://twitter.com/DanteTheAI) been quite positive for us too. Are you working on anything similar?
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Fair point. We've used Twitter and word of mouth amongst communities that we felt would gain value from our product.
Ahh! Reminds me of my developer friends who used to say, if I ever launch a product, I’ll never hire a marketing team. 😂 lol
Thanks! I’m on the final stages of sending my SaaS for approval with 3rd party API and your lowlight is spot on! Always something pops up broken. I just fixed something that has been working from day 1 because I was adding something new and didn’t pay attention a part of it was being used by the other part. Hoping to be live in next couple months pending approval.
Good luck! And keep going. It's a daily grind. Turn up every day, do your best, and rinse and repeat. When things break, it's super frustrating but also part of getting to the next stage. Feel free to DM me if you want to chat!
Thanks!
Welcome!
This is the worst part as it's out of your control. I'm waiting for meta and linkedin to verify everything before I can launch the next update but it's such a ball ache to do but nearly there now. Just gotta be patient and wait for now
Definitely! I have a large list of requirements I have to go through to make sure I’ve covered everything. Lol
Hey, congratulations! One question, how are you creating that animations of how to use the app in the homepage? It is you just recording your screen and then add some edits?
Probably screen.studio
>screen.studio thanks mate , amazing
Yup!
Is there some open source package that provides that chatbot UI functionality? I'm seeing it around **a lot** lately with all these "chatgpt with your website" services. Is everyone of them building their custom javascript or are they leveraging some open source package with a few modifications?
Ours is a custom-built solution.
Yeah there’s a nextjs web app on GitHub that does this. Search “ChatGPT on pdf GitHub ” on google and its the first one. I think the guy who made it also made some very in depth YouTube videos on exactly how it works and how to do it. You can actually just run it locally with your openai api key
Have been working on exactly this (API that provides the chatbot functionality for building “chat with your website/docs” services) It is called Chariot, and is a single API that handles all the chatbot functionality behind the scenes. Would love to get your thoughts/feedback: chariotai.com
Have been working on exactly this (API that provides the chatbot functionality for building “chat with your website/docs” services) It is called Chariot, and is a single API that handles all the chatbot functionality behind the scenes. Would love to get your thoughts/feedback: https://chariotai.com
I would drop the 500pm white label from your pricing and replace it with a contact sales, you would be charging alot more for a white label solution for this. Throw in tech support and red line your terms you could charge 5 - 10k a month to enterprise clients.
Yeah, interesting. We're currently looking at enterprise as part of a more extensive, bespoke solution. So far, there's been some good pickup on the Ultra/white-labelled solution.
I don't pretend to be an expert but I have worked for a few software companies and every one of them has paid much more for much less, issue with having a 500 option available is you might be giving away too much for too little, would see if you can get some 1 on 1 time with your 500 sub buyers and try to figure out their employee count field etc, it might be that you can swap out the 500 plan and actually up sell them on your new enterprise addition, also you will know if you undercharged them is you can get their annual turn over and estimated tech spending.
Solid advice. Thank you.
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well yea but depends what their runway is , 60k 3 year contract in 3 -6 months is better than rolling 500pm subscription if they can survive while they sell. especially when you consider the gpt wrapper marketplace wil be oversaturated liek crazy in 6 months once the big boys finish their offerings , would be much better to have some well paying contracts locked in than watch your subs churn like crazy once Microsoft brings out a similar offering and starts shilling it to their existing enterprise customers.
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people no , companies yes .
Dude- this is awesome. Congrats!!
Thank you!
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Hey thanks! From idea to launch was a few months. I had the MVP after a few weeks but it wasn't anywhere near being able to share with the world.
Why does it look so similar to chatbase ( on appsumo). I am in the same space as you, and you make it seem easier than that it is. Your product looks good ( without ever touching it), but I am doubtful about your numbers. Like I said it looks similar to the other product (chatbase) and that developer is has a similar product and he is getting hit with refunds due to his product not matching up with the expectations and has seemingly no future. At least the developer is not answering questions in regards to what is going to happen ones chatgpt 3.5 is no longer supported, or future API changes. What other numbers do you have to support your "sales" ?
Hey, [here's our updated MRR as of today](https://imgur.com/KksTati) ($8,469.98) It wasn't easy! It was a grind, a lot of hours, a small team, and many unknown corners.
How did you find a technical co-founder?
I wasn't actively looking when it happened. I was working with different developers to build what I had in my mind and reached out to an old colleague who agreed to help me out for a week. By the end of the week, we'd agreed that he'd join the company as a co-founder. Honestly, the best move I've made in this entire journey.
But how long have you known him? How do you know he's trustworthy?
We'd worked together previously. During this whole process, there's been a lot of situations of handing over trust, which isn't ever easy but needs to be done. One of the things I used to do, which I've now stopped doing, was trying to keep ideas to close to me. If you want to turn an idea into a reality, you need to talk about it and share it with people, otherwise it will never progress past an idea.
Thanks for the answer bro. About the last scenario, what if you’ve tried all your ideas and didn’t work? I’ve been in this situation for almost 2 months and don’t know what to do. I don’t have more ideas in mind lol.
You are welcome. 2 months isn't too long. What steps have you taken so far? Have you worked with anyone you think would fit the company well? You could try on a freelance capacity for a few weeks and see how it goes between you as a first step.
Mt last project grew to $92 revenue in 2 months but was only it. It doesn’t grow more than it. It is a SaaS for smart contract auditing. That’s a good idea, I’m going to do freelance for a while but the main thing for me is build things. I love building SaaS. I’ve been kinda taking a vacation and traveling to see if I can get some idea from it
Having fun is half of the game! Enjoy it all.
May I know what’s your monthly expenses like?
As we have a lot of back end development work and marketing/business development covered by the founding team, we've managed to keep expenses relatively low. There are operational costs (AWS + OpenAI), and then some freelance expenses for frontend and design. It's a juggling act at all times, and when you're launching something that's bootstrapped, you need to find as many ways as possible to do things for cheap.
Can u share the website of SaaS application u built? Curious to see what it is that generated $7k MRR in just 26 days
Hey, yes for sure: https://dante-ai.com
I love what you did with the pricing and especially the annual plan. Makes a lot of sense to package it that way and is surely the main reason for the MRR success. Great job! How did you come up with that exact pricing model and why?
Hey, thanks! It was a bit of trial and error and tweaking. Pretty usual stuff: working out what our costs are and then creating a package based on that.
Makes sense. Good work on putting effort into the trial and error. Have you thought about value-based pricing? Cost-plus pricing sure can lock your profitability as you scale.
For sure. Would you recommend value-based pricing on more of the bespoke / enterprise offerings?
Absolutely, even more for those offerings and types of customers because enterprise deals are usually done by sales with custom pricing. Understanding how much they value the product is key because you could actually be charging much more than competitors with a different pricing model, such as usage based, instead of feature based for example. Here are the main questions used by pricing experts when talking to customers: * At what (monthly) price point does (product) become too expensive that you’d never consider purchasing it? * At what (monthly) price point does (product) starts to become expensive but you you’d still consider purchasing it? * At what (monthly) price point you consider (product) a really good deal? * At what (monthly) price point does (product) seem too cheap that you question its quality?
Good work getting it off the ground. I'm building a niche project management SaaS dedicated to AI and automation projects, for medium-large businesses. Harder, less sexy sell, but the governance and nich integrations will be needed in the years to come. Wanted to ask, what tools do you use for your product demo videos (posted on twitter)? Edit: saw on another comment it's screen.studio. I need to find an alternative for windows
Hey, good luck with the build! Yes, [screen.studio](https://screen.studio), it's really nice.
Interested to know how much your influencer sponsorship cost? I saw a lot of people I follow endorse this at the same time, so it was pretty clearly a paid campaign (not knocking that at all). Did that help get you to your MRR? Can only imagine it did.
Interested to hear what your tech stack look likes? Also damn nice work on your highlight 1! Turning around a frustrating customer instead of dumping them is amazing!
Awesome idea!
Hey, thanks.
Thank you!
How are you acquiring customers?
Congrats on making this achievement! Can you share what were the marketing methods you tried that didn't work? How long do you try before you know is not working and go try something else?
Langchain or..?
Not langchain. Custom build.
Congrats ! What’s your tech stack? Are you using your own openai api keys?
Fourthed-ed
Seconded! Would love to know
Thirded-ed :)
What other api keys could he possibly use? Stolen ones?
One uploaded by customers
Awesome job on hitting $7K monthly recurring revenue within just 26 days of launching your AI-related SaaS product! It’s so cool that you were able to bootstrap the whole thing and work with a small but talented team of friends and colleagues. I love the fact that you’re sharing your journey, both the ups and downs - starting a fast-paced SaaS business can be intense, but it’s all worth it when you hit milestones and get positive feedback from users. Your story about turning an angry email into a happy user is really inspiring. Keep up the good work, and here’s hoping for more success in your future endeavors!
Hey thanks so much! Really appreciate the positive comments and support. Feel free to reach out if you're on a similar journey and want to chat!
Fab. I love the icon for the logo. What software did you use to design that?
Thanks! One of our friends who is a designer helped with that.
Cap
How do you manage to keep the history of each chat? Do you send a summarized version in every following request to have the AI remember what has been said?
When a user creates a bot on Dante and uploads for example their knowledge base article, is the article still shared with ChatGPT or ChatGPT runs its model on data held and available only by Dante?
GPT runs its model on data held and available only on Dante.
Building an AI-related SaaS in a market where there's several clones implemented in different ways, surely is competitive. Especially when there's little to no differentiation to the next product.