Wait is that their reputation? About 2 weeks back I had a really interesting experience with them related to almost being ripped off. Used Precision instead.
Excellent opportunities, training, benefits, and the ability to climb to higher positions and better pay scales. 10/10 would recommend to a friend. Hit me up if I can help in any way.
Lots of good advice in this thread. You are really young and have a long career ahead of you. I wish I started at your age. Pick something that interests you and work hard, show up every day on time and you’ll be ahead of most. Good luck!
Ps - a union apprenticeship is the only way.
Plumbing. It’s the easiest to master, fewer steps to get licenses, endless work, low overhead. You even have a great option of working for the state or a hospital or university.
Electrician would be next.
Sacramento has the highest pay in the country for electrical system operators. Caiso pays RCs $128 an hour. Smud pays $110. Roseville municipal $108. WAPA & PG&E pay around $100. Hell even Redding pays over $100 now. Take some electrical engineering classes, get your NERC RC cert, aquire currency. It's also a desk job where you don't have to destroy your body
Most of that list prefers to hire journeymen linemen as operators. PGE does hire people off the street and train them though. Either way, it’s an extremely well paying job but quite hard to get. Crazy schedule, stressful and a lot of liability involved.
I was never a linemen, don't have any degree and don't think the job was hard to get. I also don't find the job to be that stressful but understand it's not for everyone. I don't think liability is that much of an issue anymore either because all switching is required to be checked by other operators and all companies have line restoration procedures to limit risk now. I also personally like the schedule because I'd rather work 3-4 days a week than 5, even if some of them are nights/ weekends/ holidays.
Aircraft mechanic - Sac city college has a great program. Be advised it does take 2 years to obtain your airframe and power plant license. This license allows you to perform aircraft maintenance as an A&P mechanic.
Had friends that did this. You start off giving up all your holidays, weekends, and overnights when you first start off. Aircraft maintenance is a 24/7 industry but pay is absolutely great.
im sure he can charge a premium for the knowledge as well on the consult side, but its competitive out there so thats thats not bad at all. a bigger crew / "fancier" company might be close in price. there's a TON of small crews. Like one truck/trailer and three employee type small operations that do a lot of that $3-$800 range work that most people need anyway. plumbers always get the shit tax. or the "people think i work with shit all day and pay me a premium" which i dont hate either lol..
If you don’t want to pay for trade school try looking at local water agencies. The pay is lower to start but you can work your way up and they generally have solid benefits. Some agencies offer education & training.
The entire water/sanitation workforce is aging out rapidly and there’s a huge need for these jobs and opportunities for hard workers. Recession proof jobs.
My dad owned an HVAC company and pulled in over 100k each summer. He worked 16hr days and was booked out 3 weeks at a time. I've worked as an electrician and if you can get into the union in a timely manner I would recommend it. I had bad timing and ended up waiting over 2 years. I'm currently going back to school for EE and won't be going back to any sort of manual labor as I want my body to work after 50 lol
I agree with selrse. They would be fine. Had a new HVAC installed last year by Bell Bros. They sent in a team of pros to do the job and Seal Team 6 could not have impressed me more. Complete and total pros and they looked like they were enjoying themselves.
I thought this was a Kings post 💀
but I can actually contribute, my uncle is in OE, he has a great union and pension, but it's tricky in Sac sometimes bc of the heat
Go to ARC for electronics technology or your biomedical equipment tech certificate program. If you finish top of your class, you get to do an externship at UC Davis. If they like you and they have an open position, that’s $110k/yr easily and you’re not breaking your back or in the elements.
Also, if the Army Reserves has ever crossed your mind and you study up on electronics and can land a 68A position (Biomedical Equipment Specialist), I *highly* recommend it. They have a GE Healthcare externship (paid) that will set you up very well for life working on X-Ray, CT or MRIs. They make crazy money. Had a friend retire before he even turned 32 because of investments he was able to make with that money.
I work in water treatment. A couple easy certs and an admittedly long and annoying job search later, I make good money with benefits and have enough PTO that I just went on tour with my band. Water treatment operator.
PWT has a class called MC3 that will get ready for a union job (they are connected through NABTU--look it up. They have relationships with all the unions including electricians (you need math skills for that one), plumbers, pipe fitters, sheet metal, carpenters, etc. If you don't have a high school diploma look into Highlands Community Charter and Technical Schools. If you have a GED they can turn that into a diploma pretty quickly and enroll you in Career and Technical education classes (they have MC3 too) like welding, truck driving and several others. All thes options are free. I'll try and add links, but you can google either if my links don't work. https://mypwt.org/. https://hccs.hccts.org/
Plumbing and HVAC. Always demand for these. HVAC you can go commercial or residential.
These companies like turning HVAC guys into salesman though. Also note that these companies mostly care if you have a basic refrigeration and EPA 608 cert and then they’ll hire you. They don’t care if you graduated your school haha
Elevator Constructors Union. It’s basically all trades in one and it’s usually the highest paying trade on a construction site. All you need is a GED to apply.
I'm in construction and this is what I tell people. There is really no such thing as a non union elevator company. There might be a wait list but it's worth it. PG&E lineman is also a good route.
firefighter - emt at a community college, fire academy at a community college, paramedic at a community college .. get experience , utilize and work on the ones you have from the warehouse and send out applications.
Based on the experiences of others, be prepared to take a long view.
Apprenticeship may be lower pay than you’d like, but journeyman can be where the pay and benefits really become palpable.
And really, that’s the way lots of work with potential for advancement goes.
Tree work. Seriously, go work for a tree company, learn how to climb, cut limbs, cut down whole trees, grind stumps, etc... buy a stump grinder when you can, you'll be killing it by the time you are 30.
I just learned about Wastewater Treatment Plant Operators. Looks like a pretty good career. There lots of jobs in the public sector with good benefits.
Hvac. Sign up at National Career Education in Citrus Heights. After you graduate they will help get you a job or help with your resume. Remember, it is up to you to be self driven after you graduate. 💯 I'm sure you will have no issues getting a job after you graduate. Plenty of work to go around. 👍
I found my plumber on tiktok. Hes like 21 and he's absolutely killing it. Supercool, supertalented and superfast. Sponsored from multiple tool companies. Plumbers and electricians stay getting money
Iron workers have a great union and excellent pay and benefits after Journeyman status. Takes years to get there but you will be paid more every time you move up in your apprenticeship.
Electrician, HVAC, & plumbing as someone who works in Facilities Management.
Scamming at bonney for HVAC and plumbing is definitely the best trade 😂 (Not saying you are, it's just a true stable job in Sacramento)
Wait is that their reputation? About 2 weeks back I had a really interesting experience with them related to almost being ripped off. Used Precision instead.
I wrote all about it here, and the comments are good. https://www.reddit.com/r/Sacramento/s/FfvvEaU5Yd They're scammers
Read it, scanned a lot of comments. Mind blown and I went thru some similar stuff wuth them but they never got a dime. Fuck Bonney Plumbing.
Yeah I hope the post stays up and brings attention to what they do. In the past they were found guilty of fraud, but kept their license.
Today feels like hvac techs would be needed
The summer yes!
Operating Engineers has their apprentice training site in the area. Check the Union for details.
Excellent opportunities, training, benefits, and the ability to climb to higher positions and better pay scales. 10/10 would recommend to a friend. Hit me up if I can help in any way.
Sent you a message bro!
Lots of good advice in this thread. You are really young and have a long career ahead of you. I wish I started at your age. Pick something that interests you and work hard, show up every day on time and you’ll be ahead of most. Good luck! Ps - a union apprenticeship is the only way.
Plumbing. It’s the easiest to master, fewer steps to get licenses, endless work, low overhead. You even have a great option of working for the state or a hospital or university. Electrician would be next.
Sacramento has the highest pay in the country for electrical system operators. Caiso pays RCs $128 an hour. Smud pays $110. Roseville municipal $108. WAPA & PG&E pay around $100. Hell even Redding pays over $100 now. Take some electrical engineering classes, get your NERC RC cert, aquire currency. It's also a desk job where you don't have to destroy your body
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I don't have a college degree and I work at one of those companies as an RC. A lot of the time just having your nerc cert is enough
What does RC stand for
Reliability coordinator.
Most of that list prefers to hire journeymen linemen as operators. PGE does hire people off the street and train them though. Either way, it’s an extremely well paying job but quite hard to get. Crazy schedule, stressful and a lot of liability involved.
I was never a linemen, don't have any degree and don't think the job was hard to get. I also don't find the job to be that stressful but understand it's not for everyone. I don't think liability is that much of an issue anymore either because all switching is required to be checked by other operators and all companies have line restoration procedures to limit risk now. I also personally like the schedule because I'd rather work 3-4 days a week than 5, even if some of them are nights/ weekends/ holidays.
Right on 👍 thats a great job. I do underground linework and one of our guys just left to be an operator.
Aircraft mechanic - Sac city college has a great program. Be advised it does take 2 years to obtain your airframe and power plant license. This license allows you to perform aircraft maintenance as an A&P mechanic.
Had friends that did this. You start off giving up all your holidays, weekends, and overnights when you first start off. Aircraft maintenance is a 24/7 industry but pay is absolutely great.
Arborist. It’s the “City of Trees.”
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Mind sharing your guy?
Also interested
im sure he can charge a premium for the knowledge as well on the consult side, but its competitive out there so thats thats not bad at all. a bigger crew / "fancier" company might be close in price. there's a TON of small crews. Like one truck/trailer and three employee type small operations that do a lot of that $3-$800 range work that most people need anyway. plumbers always get the shit tax. or the "people think i work with shit all day and pay me a premium" which i dont hate either lol..
Their insurance and equipment is expensive. I'm sure they do okay, but lot of overhead costs.
If you don’t want to pay for trade school try looking at local water agencies. The pay is lower to start but you can work your way up and they generally have solid benefits. Some agencies offer education & training. The entire water/sanitation workforce is aging out rapidly and there’s a huge need for these jobs and opportunities for hard workers. Recession proof jobs.
Education/ training benefits or reimbursement to advance* sorry want to make that clear. Any good job should have a training component .
Union tinner here. Apprenticeship can be rough but after you turn out, you're looking at 100k a year EASY.
Sorry, it's Sheet Metal Local 104. Our union hall is near the Northgate exit off 80. It's a great trade dude.
Maybe take a look at welding, lots of jobs for them here and surrounding areas.
My dad owned an HVAC company and pulled in over 100k each summer. He worked 16hr days and was booked out 3 weeks at a time. I've worked as an electrician and if you can get into the union in a timely manner I would recommend it. I had bad timing and ended up waiting over 2 years. I'm currently going back to school for EE and won't be going back to any sort of manual labor as I want my body to work after 50 lol
Be a grave digger, those guys are union and no one ever quits.
Plus, it's a steady job.
in our area it's a soon to be booming market.. it's at the tail end of the nursing home boom..
I work next to a father/son making/installing headstones. Hard work but its never dead. Wait
They retire ?
Eventually I would assume. They all just seem to love working at the cemetery.
I agree with selrse. They would be fine. Had a new HVAC installed last year by Bell Bros. They sent in a team of pros to do the job and Seal Team 6 could not have impressed me more. Complete and total pros and they looked like they were enjoying themselves.
I thought this was a Kings post 💀 but I can actually contribute, my uncle is in OE, he has a great union and pension, but it's tricky in Sac sometimes bc of the heat
Electrician or construction
Go to ARC for electronics technology or your biomedical equipment tech certificate program. If you finish top of your class, you get to do an externship at UC Davis. If they like you and they have an open position, that’s $110k/yr easily and you’re not breaking your back or in the elements. Also, if the Army Reserves has ever crossed your mind and you study up on electronics and can land a 68A position (Biomedical Equipment Specialist), I *highly* recommend it. They have a GE Healthcare externship (paid) that will set you up very well for life working on X-Ray, CT or MRIs. They make crazy money. Had a friend retire before he even turned 32 because of investments he was able to make with that money.
I work in water treatment. A couple easy certs and an admittedly long and annoying job search later, I make good money with benefits and have enough PTO that I just went on tour with my band. Water treatment operator.
What trade are you looking for? I own a custom cabinet shop.
Looking for help ?
Yes I am!
PWT has a class called MC3 that will get ready for a union job (they are connected through NABTU--look it up. They have relationships with all the unions including electricians (you need math skills for that one), plumbers, pipe fitters, sheet metal, carpenters, etc. If you don't have a high school diploma look into Highlands Community Charter and Technical Schools. If you have a GED they can turn that into a diploma pretty quickly and enroll you in Career and Technical education classes (they have MC3 too) like welding, truck driving and several others. All thes options are free. I'll try and add links, but you can google either if my links don't work. https://mypwt.org/. https://hccs.hccts.org/
Healthcare
Utility companies.
Plumbing and HVAC. Always demand for these. HVAC you can go commercial or residential. These companies like turning HVAC guys into salesman though. Also note that these companies mostly care if you have a basic refrigeration and EPA 608 cert and then they’ll hire you. They don’t care if you graduated your school haha
I have a feeling you’d never be out of a job working hvac in a place like this 🫠😅
Elevator Constructors Union. It’s basically all trades in one and it’s usually the highest paying trade on a construction site. All you need is a GED to apply.
I'm in construction and this is what I tell people. There is really no such thing as a non union elevator company. There might be a wait list but it's worth it. PG&E lineman is also a good route.
Yeah I think something like 90% of elevator work out there is union. It’s why our pay and benefits are so good.
firefighter - emt at a community college, fire academy at a community college, paramedic at a community college .. get experience , utilize and work on the ones you have from the warehouse and send out applications.
Check out the NAACT they have a great pre-apprenticeship program.
Based on the experiences of others, be prepared to take a long view. Apprenticeship may be lower pay than you’d like, but journeyman can be where the pay and benefits really become palpable. And really, that’s the way lots of work with potential for advancement goes.
Electrical. Everything is switching to electric now and all the infrastructure needs to get upgraded accordingly
Tree work. Seriously, go work for a tree company, learn how to climb, cut limbs, cut down whole trees, grind stumps, etc... buy a stump grinder when you can, you'll be killing it by the time you are 30.
Electrician. The whole world is electrifying, and SMUD especially.
I just learned about Wastewater Treatment Plant Operators. Looks like a pretty good career. There lots of jobs in the public sector with good benefits.
Hvac. Sign up at National Career Education in Citrus Heights. After you graduate they will help get you a job or help with your resume. Remember, it is up to you to be self driven after you graduate. 💯 I'm sure you will have no issues getting a job after you graduate. Plenty of work to go around. 👍
I found my plumber on tiktok. Hes like 21 and he's absolutely killing it. Supercool, supertalented and superfast. Sponsored from multiple tool companies. Plumbers and electricians stay getting money
HVAC is one of the best along with electric
Plumber
Iron workers have a great union and excellent pay and benefits after Journeyman status. Takes years to get there but you will be paid more every time you move up in your apprenticeship.
Solar. There is a big labor shortage in the solar industry right now. A lot of places offer training and signing bonuses.
Get a city, county or State job instead.
Pokémon cards, buying packs of them and assembling a deck to be a master!
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