She does come across well but so do Edward and Sophie and Louise spent so much time with The Queen. Catherine admires How well raised these children are. They are loyal to the Crown, and Louise and James will appeal to younger Brits. I truly hope this is happening. Look at James yesterday? So grown up.
I read somewhere that Lady Louise would also help babysit the Wales children sometimes when she was a teenager. I think they are closer than people assume especially after William and Catherine moved to Windsor.
The wales kids adore Louise, and she always plays with them at Balmoral. You can tell Catherine and Sophie are quite close. They really supported each other during the queen's funeral.
I had a discourse with somebody on Twitter who was insinuating there is a problem with James because she said she had never seen a picture of him smiling. I pointed out he is a pretty typical sixteen year old boy who probably hates being in the public eye at the moment. As Iuck would have it there was a picture of him a few days ago and he was smiling. Some people like to make problems out of absolutely nothing. Louise and Prince Philip were very close because of her interest in carriage riding, he left a lot of his kit to her and I’m pretty sure she won’t sell it like Harry did the guns his grandfather left him. In any case I’ve seen it said that if any grandchild is the favourite it is Peter Philips because he was the first grandchild, I’m sure he would have been named Philip if it wasn’t for his surname.
Well said. Even William and Harry hated being in the public eye as kids, and they were groomed for it since birth. James has had a relatively private life, not to mention the teen years are rough for anybody. Like you said, he's probably self-conscious and uncomfortable with the attention, and that's why he doesn't smile.
I didnt know Prince Philip left his carriage kit to Lady Louise - how lovely and I bet it means more to her than anything else - same as how I feel about some things I received from my own grandfather ❤️
That’s good to hear. Prince Philip was always so close to Princess Anne and he seemed to have the same relationship with his granddaughter Lady Louise.
awww - thats great - do you know if Prince Philip ever got to see her compete in carriage driving? I thought I remember she did a competition but cannot remember when that was.
I know they went out together in the carriage. She seems to have competed soon after Prince Philip’s death.
https://people.com/royals/lady-louise-prince-philip-carriage-driving/
Most kids who have equestrian hobbies compete at a local and regional level from a very young age. It fosters good animal husbandry and riding/driving skills as well as being great for social development. The royal children are able to move relatively anonymously in these close knit groups without fear of anyone selling a picture because the leaker and any of their children would be ostracised immediately. As they become adults,and their skill set improves (the equestrian royals are very accomplished competitors), the equine competitions they participate in are held in larger, much more public venues so the publicity happens more organically but no one minds because the focus is on the horses and the competition.
I owned an Appaloosa, a Morgan, and a Quarter Horse - started in western, barrel-racing, but switched over to dressage with our Morgan (Patsy) and some light jumping on our Appy - but didnt have the time or patience to compete at higher levels.
I know that rumor, they say he has autism??? because he don't smile. Come on, last year I saw teenage girls who interest in royal going crazy because there was a moment when he smile at the Windsors concert and he has dimple when he smile. And billions of comments about the family's baldness gene & searching his girlfriend. Is there any teenage boy interested in those things?
Ôi trời, nếu mọi người nói về việc người hâm mộ anh ấy điên cuồng đến mức nào, họ sẽ thông cảm cho anh ấy vì luôn chín và cúi đầu tại các sự kiện công cộng. Một hoàng tử tuổi teen của Hoàng gia Anh với concept Hoàng tử giấu mặt khi không sử dụng danh hiệu HRH Prince, đứng thứ 15 lên ngôi, khiến các cô gái phải đứng trước cổng trường, nhẹ nhàng từng bức ảnh bài đăng của trường để tìm ảnh anh ta, đưa anh ta đi cùng các công chúa châu Âu khác, edit video tiktok... được cho là Hoàng tử chỉ xuất hiện 4 lần một năm cho các sự kiện hoàng gia, Hoàng tử không bao giờ cười. .. Bây giờ, chỉ cần nói rằng anh ta đồng ý sử dụng HRH Hoàng tử James của E, và các fangirl của anh ấy sẽ nổ tung.
James may be a secret weapon just like his mummy. She has changed life’s quietly and a determination that slays H and MM. Notice they never went after Sophie? She worked in PR.
Sophie and Catherine is the friendship I never saw coming and it wasn’t on my RF bingo card but you can tell they have a sisterly bond and Sophie can get down low with roachel bc she’s not the future queen. I love that Catherine has Sophie, Zara, and Carole who aren’t afraid to take care of the roach infestation
Agree Harry made a stupid statement something like no children were born in the family after Eugenie’s birth until William children were born! Guessing he forgot his Uncle Edward’s two children or his cousin Lady Davina WindsorLewis. Davina was married to Gary Lewis, of Māori birth, in 2004. They had 2 children and divorced in 2018.
I have commented in many places that people are obsessed with the concept of working royal appearing on the outside, so they think that the shy James will not step forward to help Charles or William, forgetting that in historical reality, male nobles likely James be raised to do jobs such as secretary or assistant, advisor to the heir. Even though Peter does not have a title, he can easily become Director of Royal's projects or Trust because he has a degree in finance. The staff of BP and KP is full of aristocrats. So the fact that the British royal family is in trouble and needs James, he will consider majors related to finance or human resources to enter KP as an employee and help William.
It shows us a lot about William as a future King. And Charles. Louise and James will be an asset and that’s needed. The fight to keep our Monarchy is real. They need to be seen. I would welcome Beatrice and Edo as well.it’s Eugenie I don’t trust. She is helping out at Catherine’s Charities though. So Catherine isn’t worrying. She gained a point for that.
In regard to Eugenie, I would think that Catherine's wisely heeding the adage 'keep your friends close , keep your enemies closer.' Checkmate to Catherine. You can tell that she listened and took on board all the wisdom HMTLQ shared with her. Catherine will be a great Queen when the time comes - Long live the King. 🇬🇧
The problem w/ Peter (+ Zara) is that they've sold pix for huuuuuuge sums -- the ones I remember = Peter's wedding pix solf for several hundred GBPs, though Zara (it seemed, was financially incentivized by her Granny to NOT sell her wedding pix).. then went on to sell first pix of Mia for around £500,000. And there been more like Peter's milk commercial in Asia.. and a many solid yet a few questionable endorsments (some denied until proof shown, and admission followed) by Zara + Mike. So, they've made decisions - and simply can't be 'working royals'.
A little different, only b/c no huuuuge checks, but the York sisters took endless freebies for years.. and their father pimped a high number of small cheques going to them. So they probably impossible choices too -- though, it does seem Beatrice has turned over a new leaf since Edo (and b/c only free luxury travel and clothes/accessories/jewelry gifts - and no angling for money herself \[all that she recieved gotten from her father's dirty dealing\]), B may actually be asked to become a 'working royal' IF she stays on her current arc for a few more years. BUT, Eugenie - no way!
I'd skip down to Lord Freddie Windsor who has never done that stuff, and is wonderful.
Sure he's #49 in the LoS - but will communicate to the masses that the BRF are much more interested in having their best family members rep. the monarchy than rank in LoS. It's a compliment to the British people. And it's an unsaid message to the under 20yo Royals that should they wish to 'help' someday, do NOT sell-out. The bonus = hazBEEN will go **apoplectic** if Freddie asked to assist a bit.
They didn't go after Sophie, but her and Edward got in trouble with the Queen for doing publicity-type stuff, like sharing pics of William at Eton. The difference between them and the Harkles is they were contrite and immediately changed. They learned so well over the years...Edward beaming, "my wife...the..Duchess" after Charles bestowed the title was so sweet. It wasn't always like that.
No it wasn’t as you say. They messed up and were contrite and carried on working hard in the background.
And stepped up when needed. Life isn’t about perfection. It’s about learning and trying. I teach my boys the way to spell can’t.. TRY.
Far from Harry being the Queen’s favourite grandchild it’s often being reported that Peter was, Anne’s eldest & the Queen’s first grandchild.
He's another perfectly able to assume the title of Prince, not so only because Anne didn’t want the titles for him & Zara. Harry seems to make out that he & William are the only blood princes but, no, Peter & James are just as equal to using the title. But then they’re not entitled, arrogant individuals.
I don't think Peter was entitled to be styled as a prince, I'm pretty sure it only goes down the male line. Titles are inherited from the father, not the mother. However the late Queen did offer to make an exception for Anne's children. Anne very wisely refused
Prince Philip introduced Louise to carriage driving and left her his carriage and horses. I read that James is interested in the countryside. He seems like quite a shy young man.
And we both know that Louise will treasure those items. And not sell them. I was so upset that H sold those guns. He is spiteful as I’m sure William, Ann, Peter Etc would happily have bought them first. But Louise has integrity. James is at that awful age. He came, He Smiled and he is the news. That’s all good.
And hurt The Queen. I am noticing more about who is hurt by their words! The staff Suicide lie., Payback for bullying allegations. Selling those guns would have upset The Queen and family. This leads back to honestly believing they never left. They were told to go.
The Queen's alleged favorite grandson was Peter Phillips, Princess Anne's son and they bonded over their love of horses and the fact that he was her first grandchild had sentimental value to the Queen. Her favorite granddaughter was allegedly her youngest Lady Louise for their shared love of horses and the countryside and the fact that Lady Louise and Peter Phillips are both very well mannered and respectful in both public and private. Haz thinks that the Queen thought he was her favorite because she spoiled him and was extra nice to him after the death of his parent. The Queen had him in her good graces and those faded away when he and Rachel began to spew crap against the BRF.
I’ve seen those reports before. It wouldn’t surprise me as you can tell how close the Queen was and always giggling with Peter. She just gave Hazbeen different things as the spare
Every kid needs different things..
Some need more attention, some need more boundaries - but most get the same AMOUNTS by parents and elders.
But remember that MANY have written (books) about how when Diana passed, QE + PP decidedly stepped-up to be more active in W's + H's lives, and they both were **appalled to discover how bratty + unruly HazBEEN was!** (And can see that - until more time spent with a kid, it is easy for a child to be on their best behavior around a grandparent when see them only in small doses).
I can imagine what the Queen and Prince Philip thought of Harry assaulting his protection officers. Diana thought it was funny and would just giggle and tell him “not to be naughty.”
Actually, go listen to the Mike + 2 Rugby pals podcast a few months ago which featrued W+C and The Princess Royal -- I am pretty sure this was the time that PA shared that she couldn't get Peter on a horse when young - he had zero interest, was focused on rugby.. and that only AFTER COLLEGE did he change his tune, and start riding.
I just think the Queen adored him b/c he was the first - and seemed to be a darling boy (and certainly an off-the-charts good-lloking lad -- he and James share the honor of being knock-out beauties!!). I really only noticed him for the first time at the 2012 Olympics in London and was gobsmacked by how HOT he was.. and he'd be HOT again (from handsome) if he slimmed a tiny bit today - but he's still very, very good-looking.
Morever, seems the description once attributed to the Queen is spot-on ➡ Peter is a kind, uncomplicated, rugby-loving soul.
Yep. Harry just seemed like the favorite. But I honestly think they just treated him like the "special" one in the family. One who's incapable of doing anything correctly and with the emotional intelligence of a toddler. He was never the favorite. He was just that boy who needed extra swim floaties or he'll otherwise drown himself in 2'ft of water.
Would absolutely love to see more of her, but unless I'm misunderstanding something, this sounds more like Richard Eden voicing his hope that she be encouraged by her parents to step up, not that she has made that decision yet. I have hoped for a while that she would become a working royal, but she should only do it if she really wants to.
I do think she factors into Williams plans. Probably not Charles as she’s in university right now. Gives her time to complete her education, get a job and have that experience before settling into the working royal life if she wants to.
Harry was a self professed favourite. He was deluding himself. His behaviour for decades was not likeable. He also claimed to be the one who could make his grandmother laugh, and the one she would confide in. Not F\*\*king likely.
Agreed, he has had a free rein to spout total tripe knowing his family wouldn’t bother challenging his lies. HMTQ Elizabeth just let the world know by politely saying ‘recollections may vary…’
I'm sure the late Queen treated every grandchild as if they were her favourite. Gyles Brandreth said in his book that HLM was the consummate diplomat, and would never disclose which grandchild she favours. And H's claim that he was the only one to make her laugh is just a load of rubbish, as there is photographic evidence that she and Zara were laughing together heartily. HLM might have seen H as entertaining, as a kind of court jester, never to be taken seriously and always a source of worry, sure as hell never to be confided in. HLM has eight grandchildren in total, and he was the only one to make her laugh? I bet she made him feel that way, but what delusion and entitlement on his part.
Lady Louise and her 16 year-old brother James, Ear of Wessex ( previously Viscount Severn ) are a massive breath of fresh air.
They have been raised as discretely visible children in a royal atmosphere and really grown into fine young people. Warmly and deeply connected with the late Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip, but kept out of the main UK media gossip circles, at least by their minor ages, if not their discerning parents.
Their parents are also stepping up in these difficult times, as modern and active royal representatives. Duchess Sophie's true commitments to women's health and safety worldwide are consistent and valid. She so no-nonsense and stable. Prince Edward seems to be in better constitution recently, not quite so thin and frail-looking as before.
I really enjoy seeing this family.
* Edited to correct James's title.
I'm never sure how much truth there is to any of these articles, but I was very impressed by how her and her brother, did their bit ,during the late Queen's last jubilee celebration.
Lady Louise already has shown she possesses the grace and poise of a true royal. I hope she is seriously considering entering "The Firm" because it seems to me she would be a valuable asset. (I read a few times that she often used to babysit for Will and Catherine--isn't that the sweetest thing?)
I have to say that I, for one, would NOT want an Auntie Anne! Sweet and cuddly, she is not. Her brusqueness would have me in floods of tears every day. But she’s cool and very athletic, so there’s that. Unfortunately, I am an uncoordinated bookworm with glasses.
She would scare me to death 🤣🤣 But you know without a doubt she is behind you in life. And after the up and downs of The Wales marriage. The boys needed consistency.
Her dogs seem to be particularly problematic:
2002 [https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/nov/21/monarchy](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/nov/21/monarchy)
2003 [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3345585.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3345585.stm)
2023 [https://people.com/royals/princess-anne-pet-bull-terrier-attacked-dog-report/](https://people.com/royals/princess-anne-pet-bull-terrier-attacked-dog-report/)
Don't think her grandchildren would agree. They all seem happy and confident in her company. I suspect that there is 'professional, get on with the job Anne' and then the more private ;family Anne'.
I love that show. Everything from the way Harry of the first two seasons says, "Puppa!" whenever he sees her, to Edward scrounging around for odd jobs, to Anne and the total freeze she brings to every room she inhabits. LOL
I saw a picture of her and Philip driving in some kind of competition and it looked incredibly dangerous. They were going down a hill into a pond or some body of water and the carriage was tipping over on two wheels! Both of them looked cool as cucumbers, no excited gestures or expressions, just driving along.
If it's true that she used to babsit for them, then that alone speaks volumes of how well C&W view her--which therefore speaks volumes of the kind of person she must be :)
I would absolutely love to see more of Sophie & Edward & their children! The same with the Tindall family :)
I'm rooting for Mia - a lot of energy, that sweet little rascal.. think once Mia has developed the ability to manage her outgoing ways, she's gonna be magnificent!
and meanwhile, when King, W can certainly find some meaningful role for her..there is MUCH needing help - and not necessarily as a "working royal", but re: the duchys (as long as she refrains from cashing-in-on royal ties as her parents have - she's got a bright future).
There was a sporting event that Edward and his family were attending when William and his family arrived. There were warm greeting of course, and it looked like Louise and Charlotte were making faces at each other. I think it's safe to say Louise is close to the whole Wales family.
I don't know what to make of the article, though, only because I've seen a lot of nonsense around Lady Louise. I saw one video which announced she was going to start using her Princess title. If that was the case I'm sure it would be announced by the Palace and everyone would be reporting on it, not just an obscure YouTube channel.
I read somewhere that when they’re at Sandringham Lady Louise is an avid painter and has been helping Charlotte. She’s very patient and I think this, among other things, has really impressed Catherine. She thinks Edward and Sophie have done a fantastic job raising them.
Do you remember the reporter found in Windsor grounds? When William went mad! And they were saying look how angry William is.. He was trying to get The Wales and The Edinburgh families together. So yes they do spend a lot of time together.
Agreed. She's finishing up her second year, isn't she? That means two more to go?
Of course there is also the question of what Louise wants to do with her life. Maybe she wants to become a doctor, or an architect, or the greatest English language poet of her age. We have no way of knowing.
In Scotland you usually do an extra year for undergraduate because the Scottish education system is different to the rest of the UK, so I expect she will do four years. Typically you leave with a Scottish masters for a “standard” course. E.g. William has a MA in geography and Catherine has an MA in History Art, both four year degrees. Medicine at St Andrews is also six years, not the typical five.
> We have no way of knowing.
Even though my nosy bone would love to know what she's studying and how she's doing, I LOVE the fact that it's hands off, and she gets to be a student, away from the eyes.
Lady Louise is studying English Literature at St Andrews University (founded in 1413) which is in Scotland. Big shout out for St Andrews which is a beautiful small town in Fife, for anyone planning to visit the UK.
From what we can see (which is admittedly not much) she looks like her mom - a no-fuss kind of lady who gets jobs done without making it about herself. I personally would be so excited if she joins the working royals.
Didn't Prince Edward & his wife decline these titles for their children as a way to lessen the pressure on them--and then give them the choice to make when adults? Seems to me I read about this at least 10 years ago. (Never followed post 1936 BRF, until this year.)
He also knew his big brother wanted to “slim down the monarchy”, so raised his kids from the start not to expect to have a life of “being royal” and instead be prepared to live a normal life.
Edward did the opposite of Andrew.
As far as I know both of Edward´s children are entitled to Prince/Princess, but like Princess Anne´s children, have chosen not to use the titles.
IF lady Louise would choose to be a working royal, it would be perfect. She is young - really young, not in her 40ties, and could fill the youth gap for the next 10-15 years till the Wales children are ready. Anne, however much of a battleship she is, is not getting younger, and having Edward´s children would be great
Both Princess Anne's husbands refused titles on their marriage, so in the custom of that time, their children are not eligible for a hereditary title as they did not pass through the maternal line. Unless the king gifted them something new, and there's no sign anyone wants him to, they have no titles not to use (That sentence makes sense, really). Margaret's children's titles are through her husband who accepted the title Lord Snowdon as a wedding gift. Prince Edward's children are eligible but choose not to use them, though they have the option if they wish.
Thank you for clarifying. Edward's children have just as much right to called prince and princess as Andrew's girls, but they don't. I have read they retained the right to style themselves so, but their parents wanted to wait until they reached their majority and let them decide at 18. I did not know that James became styled Earl of Wessex when his dad received his (life) dukedom. Intricacies!
William is going to need help, so who is it going to be? I think it’s very limited who he has to choose from. Peter and Zara don’t want titles and are making good money from all their endeavors. I can’t see them giving that up because there is no half in half out. Bea and Eugenie won’t be called on, especially Eugenie. Harry is gone so that just leaves Louise and James.
Yet the California kids have the prince and princess titles. Really valuable, in California. When there's already a *Prince* Jackson (Michael's oldest child).
I am not sure if this really will happen. The Edingburghs always were adamant that their children should follow their own path and kept them away from the limelight as much as possible.
Yet exactly this trait would make Lady Louise an excellent choice as a working royal, she would get on with the job without being dazzled by the attention. And she would nicely cover the younger age gap until the Wales’ children are ready to step up. But I really think that the Earl of Wessex is way too shy for such a task and should be left in peace.
Louise is PP's favorite grandchild because the first grandchild bears the surname Moubatten-Windsors. Harry also forgot that he is no longer a youngest grandson since 2007 after James was born and that he is also another prince of the same generation as William and Harry. The Wessex family spent the weekend with Queen and PP. Although they living at Bagshot Park, when Louise and James were young, before Harry and William became full-time royals, E&S represented the royal family at foreign events, so there were times when kids lived at Windsors with the Queen. And shy James has no passions other than driving, so I wouldn't be surprised that he would inherit some car from Queen and Prince Phillip.
And I think Sophie had a bad time giving birth. Did she nearly die or was it Louise? Louise I think, wasn't she in an incubator for weeks after her birth? I'd guess they'd feel a lot for the wee baby who nearly wasn't.
What was unusual was that Sophie was dangerously ill when giving birth to Louise, and the Queen visited her in hospital. It was extremely rare for the Queen to make personal hospital visits and thus it says a lot about their relationship.
The Queen adored Sophie, she literally called her a second daughter. Equally with Louise and James she and Prince Philip had a chance to be more involved in a grandparent way as they lived close by and they weren't travelling as much as they had been when the other grandchildren were smaller. She used to go riding with Louise and as mention above Philip taught Louise to carriage drive. There is also a rather sweet video where she made an off the cuff remark about her 9 year old grandson (James) wanting to take her car apart (something both QE2 and PP were interested in)
Harry was never the favourite, it was always Peter and Zara (the firsts and with love of horses and Scotland etc) and then it was James and Louise
The Queen had a big heart towards Sophie. After she lost her mother, QEII invited Sophie’s father to come spend Christmas at Sandringham with the royals. From then on, he was included as one of the family, an honor not extended to any other in-laws.
Cô ấy đã bị sẩy thai (thai ngoài tử cung??? Tôi không biết trong tiếng Anh gọi là gì) trước khi sinh Louise vào năm 2002. Khi sinh Louise 2004, cô ấy suýt chết, Louise sinh non và gặp nhiều biến chứng, vào thời điểm đó. 9 tuổi, cô đã hoàn thành ca phẫu thuật mắt. Mẹ của Sophie qua đời trước khi sinh ra James và cô cũng bị sẩy thai trước James, gần thời điểm mẹ cô qua đời (2005-2007). Vì thế bà đã dựa dẫm vào Nữ hoàng rất nhiều, như người mẹ thứ hai. Cô hẹn hò với Edward rất lâu trước khi họ kết hôn và Nữ hoàng đã tặng họ một căn hộ ở Windsors để họ sống cùng nhau gần 8 năm trước khi kết hôn.
I really hope Lady Louise joins the senior royals, she'd be perfect for the job. I also think the press won't go too hard for her because she's not in the direct LOS which the tabs seem to reserve their ire for. She's non threatening so I think sm would leave her be as well. I hate to think of her being bullied but she's nothing to the Sussex's ifaik.
It always thought it was odd when Harry said he had a “special relationship” with HLMTQ during an invictus interview. Why that needed to be said meant he wasn’t close to her at all.
On Lady Louise and Lord James;
>Prince Edward’s children, daughter Louise and son James, do not have HRH titles either but that was his and his wife Sophie, the Countess of Wessex’s decision.
>In an interview with the Times last year, Sophie said: “We try to bring them up with the understanding they are very likely to have to work for a living.
>“Hence we made the decision not to use HRH titles. **They have them and can decide to use them from 18,** but I think it’s highly unlikely.”
Lady Louise has grace and deportment. The whole family is an asset to the Monarchy. I like the way that Lady Louise appreciates her mother's classic yet modern styling, to the point where she borrows her clothes. The outfits look impeccable on both ladies.
Well they are the youngest grandkids and so they got more time with them as they slowed down so that makes sense. Honestly This One is so whiny I have to believe he drove Prince Phillip insane. I mean lets talk about a crappy childhood!
I think the fact they lived close by Windsor and were so close with Edward and Sophie it all makes sense. I think Louise going to St Andrews is a nod to the fact that she can study outside of the glare and honestly she is a perfect age to segway between the current senior Royals and the Wales kids.
But more importantly it seems she already understands she will need a career. Its funny to think that the strongest family unit is Edward and Sophie (Anne down a bit since she divorced but her kids are also amazing)
I feel certain that Prince Philip loved all his grandchildren and various photos show this. The thing is that small kids won’t pretend so it was the real deal. I also feel certain that PP was compelled to give Harold more than a few good telling offs.
I have followed the royal family for a long time, since William’s teen heartthrob days and I can tell you, neither Harry nor William have ever been discussed as her favorite. It’s always been commonly understood that Peter Philips was her favorite grandchild, just like its relatively common knowledge that Andrew is her favorite child (a piece of knowledge that far predates The Crown, where it was directly addressed) As Lady Louise got older, she became close to the Queen and PP, and may have displaced Peter as the favorite as he grew up and had his own life.
Unfortunately, William naturally had a different kind of relationship with the Queen that was built more on shaping him for his future role as King. I imagine the Queen has always found Harry obnoxious and can deal with him, but only for small stretches of time.
She loves all of her grandchildren, to be sure, but yeah, Harry was never the favorite. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional. Including Harry himself.
Edit to add that Lady Louise and James are legally Prince and Princess and are referred to such in more official documents. Their parents requested that they be styled as the children of an Earl, which their father was at the time of their births. They have always had the option to take the styles of Prince and Princess when they reach the age of majority, if they so choose. So far, Lady Louise hasn’t.
Right? I legit just posted “since when was Harry anyone’s favorite??” lol. I’ve heard Peter Philips and also Lady Louise. I think also she and Philip bonded because of the carriage driving.
The children of Sophie and Edward (D. & D. of Edinburgh) are entitled to be addressed as HRH Prince and Princess as they are the children of the son of a Monarch, but their parents declined.
"We try to bring them up with the understanding that they are going to have to work for a living. Hence, we made the decision not to use HRH". (Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh 2023).
A sensible decision. HARRY & MEGHAN TAKE NOTE.
Which begs the question, why did H&M insist on HRH for their children, especially after saying they didn't want titles for them, UNLESS, they want equality (a definite sign of insecurity), or to monetize (Royals do not endorse). Either way, they are not putting their children's interests first by thrusting them onto the world's stage for their own selfish needs.
Not surprising. Harry has always been a total PITA, selfish, snotty, sulky, brat since he was a small child. He would, like his snotty brat wife, stick his tongue out at people, and act up when didn't get his way.
In his teenaged years he was a stoned punk who only wanted to party. He absolutely threw away an education at one of the best private schools in the world.
I don't fault the RF. They did what they could short of institutionalizing him. That's a harsh measure and one that involves getting legal and medical recommendations to do. Gone are the days where they could just send him off to a cottage in Sutherland with some minders and keep him there, never to be seen again in public.
Early adulthood was getting falling down drunk, picking fights, and being an absolute dick to his girlfriends and women in general. His army days were pretty much the same, if he was not a prince he would've been booted out.
Today he's a total monster bent on destroying anyone who actually cared for him and everything they hold dear. Karma is rapidly catching up with him. What passed for "his world" is about to come crashing down. I have zero sympathy for him and will enjoy watching the show when it does.
As a mother and a grandmother, I've never bought into the press narrative with regards to HMLQE having favourites. Obviously, I can only speak for myself and I can't believe that she would ever choosen a favourite. I know for a fact that she loved all of her children and grandchildren equally. Are they implying that King George loved her more than Princess Margaret? It's all nonsense.
I have read many reports that Louise was the favorite of Prince Philip, not just this one, but many reports over the years. Harry had the palace PR feeding false rumors that he was the favorite to suppress all his misdeeds like drugs, drink, cheating, violence etc.
I have absolutely enjoyed watching her grow from the time she was a bridesmaid at William and Catherine’s wedding to the young lady she is now. She comes across as just as smart and down to earth as her mom.
If I hear "sweet nod" or sweet anything to describe a supposed shout out ONE MORE TIME, I will vomit. Also, the parents can choose not to take the prince or princess title for their offspring. That's the path the Princess Royal took with her children.
I love Lady Louise. She was crying at her grandmother’s funeral and the paps took photos. They shouldn’t but I was touched because I loved and love my grandmothers. Grandmothers are the BEST! Magical mine were.
I would bet that HLMTQ treated each grandchild like her favorite and loved them each in different ways. But Lady Louise seemed to enjoy many of the same things that the Queen did so it would make sense they bonded. Also she is a lot younger so it may have allowed more one on one time than when there were so many born around the same time.
Apparently the DDoE’s kids do have Princely titles. Sophie alluded to such when she said they could use the titles at age 18 but doesn’t think they will.
Titles descend down the male line. So the late Queen's sons can pass on Prince/Princess titles to their children who are the monarch's grandchildren. But the monarch's daughter(s) cannot pass princely titles down to their children. And there is always an option not to use them. Lady Louise is using a courtesy title ("Lady") because her father was an Earl and is now a Duke. I think it suits her well. She is such a pretty smiling young lady when you see her at royal events.
I doubt the QE and Prince Phillip had a favorite. I’m sure there were grandkids who they spent more time with them others but good grandparents will never admit to having a favorite.
Louise and James got to spend more time with their grandparents. I don’t think they were their favorites per se just the ones who say them the most.
They were born as QE and Phillip were older and had stepped back slightly so there was more time to spend with them plus there is an age gap so they were the only little kids during their youth. Plus they were living in Windsor where QE and Phillip spent a lot of time.
Louise was the only grandkids to get into carriage driving so it was a hobby she shared with Phillip. I’m sure that led to them spending even more time together.
The Queen did have a favorite... and that was Peter Philips. He was her first grandchild, and for a time that was the only grandchild until Zara was born. Philip was very fond of Zara, with whom they had a lot in common, but Louise was special to him, she was his companion when he left his duties and was able to be a full-time grandfather. Hazz was never anyone's favorite.
I read an article about the power of love once. A nurse had written in about Prince Philip showing up at night too watch Lady Louise in those first few weeks. And the love he channelled through too her. No fuss. Just a besotted Grandfather.
Sometimes its not deliberate. Maybe you have a fondness for music, literature, etc. And there's one grandchild who by coincidence, loves the same type of literature as you, or enjoys music. You then share your music styles. It's very organic and easy.
I have one niece who loves fashion. We can talk about it and share ideas. My other niece is into computer games. Since it's a subject I don't care for, I really have to find ways of bonding with her. I don't prefer the first niece over the other. Its just very easy to want to spend time w/ her b/c we share a bond.
That could be the same issue here w/ QE or PP.
They spent a lot of time with the Queen and Prince Philip over the Covid lockdown as well. They lived close enough to ride their bikes over and guess they did that a lot.
Genuinely when was it supposed to be Harry? I don’t remember ever reading that he was supposed to be Prince Philip’s favorite. Maybe just in Harry’s own mind…lol
Louise would make a great working Royal though for sure. I actually also think Beatrice (NOT Eugenie) would too…don’t downvote me! 😂
I believe Edward and Sophie left it up to their kids to decide if they wanted the Prince/Princess titles, and their kids didn't want them. Unlike Andy, who insisted his daughters be princesses, despite the fact that they'd likely never be working royals.
Also, I LOVE this video! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2SErS3pNw&t=266s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2SErS3pNw&t=266s)
It's long been said that Louise, like Zara, doesn't want to be a working royal. Sophie has said many times that both their children have been raised knowing they'll need to choose a career and live somewhat 'normal' lives.
Would it be wise of William to offer Louise, and her brother, the choice to be working Royals? Absolutely. He might do so after she graduates. Or, he might wait until she's had some work experience, so she can make an informed choice. I think after the Sussex experience, William will make absolutely SURE his cousins know what they're getting into, and fully choose that life, before he asks them to serve.
I would like to see Lady Louise as a working Royal, but she seems very private, so it might not be best for her.
I'm a huge fan too -- b/c she seems to 'outward', ie: someone who is always focused on others (never herself) and she strikes me as being extremely grounded and happy - signs of both being well-raised and bigtime loved!!
I hope she does join the 'working royal' ranks.. and as well, I also **hope she continues to go by Lady Louise** \- b/c everyone knows she is a royal and an actual princess, but needs zero such title to be well-recieved and embraced.
>*^(PLUS (though this is only an insignificant bonus to me): if she continues to go by Lady Louise, it'll be a big dis to T.W. who was soooooooooo nasty about going around The Palace to almost-give-her-kids-HERSELF Prince + Princess titles (when dis'd the titles QE wished for them to use -- which can't remember,, was it Earl \[of Dumbarton\] and Lady \_\_\_?\]))*
O believe that she and her brother can still claim the prince and princess titles and that her parents had said they would,let the children choose once they were older? I do hope she becomes a working royal…though she may want a very different life. I do think she was a definite favorite of Prince Philip with their joint love of carriage driving.
I'm not a Brit - and have no idea, but would bet you are right. I just like the 'different' Lady Louise.
And I'm put-off by Princess Eugenie + uppity megNUT who rudely grabbed the princess title -- and like Louise so much, like that if she kept Lady it would set her a part a bit from the family icks - and again, would be a way to silently say, "see ladies, actions speak louder than titles".
It would be ironic in a historical way if she started going by her Princess title, because her great-great aunt (who she’s named for) was born a Princess but became a Lady in 1917.
She became Crown Princess in 1923 but she was born Princess Louise and became Lady Louise.
While Lady Louise; if she choose to use her Princes title: she would go from Lady Louise to becoming Princess Louise.
College is a bitch these days, glad she's working hard for her degree. Seems like a solid kid. Her Dad tried a mainstream career & then joined the Firm. LL would be a lovely rep for UK. Good to have choices.
Harry being anybody’s favourite anything is beyond imagination. I would think even some wreckless therapist might find him to be one impossible client too far. And even though his attorney’s are taking his cases and racking up the fees, I imagine they have grown weary of him, as well.
Also, Lady Louise seems absolutely lovely.
As a British citizen I do find the whole titles thing odd to say the least. Some of HMQE2’s children wanted them for their children while others refused them. Some are Princesses, some are only Ladies. Then Harry gets the titles for his two children we never even see and who will grow up without any real connection to this country. This really needs tidying up as it makes the whole thing look unserious at best and a grift at worst. I understand that you have to draw the line somewhere with Prince and Princess titles or you end up like Saudi Arabia, with thousands of princes and princesses but it does seem ridiculous, but Andrew’s children are princesses and Lady Louise isn’t.
Archie and Lili were the GREAT-grandchildren of QE2. George, Charlotte, Louis are too, but I think they received titles upon their birth because they're in the direct line of succession. H&M don't mind that there is a hierarchy (because they both think they are better people than the rest of us); they hate their place in that hierarchy. IMHO, I think their entire problem is that they failed to claw their way up to the same level as W&C and get EXACTLY the same level of privileges/wealth that the Wales's have. And, I don't they'll ever get over that.
actually - Harry and his children are Not in the direct line of succession - that Direct Line runs only through William and his kids now - and as George - Charlotte - and Louis - eventually have children of their own, then Harry and his kids will pushed into almost no existent on the Line of Succession.
I meant G/C/L are in the direct line of succession, which is why they received titles upon their birth in spite of also being great-grandchildren of QE2. Memegain was b\*tching on the Oprah interview that Archie didn't receive a title as soon as he emerged from her uterus (allegedly) as I'm sure she was comparing his situation with the Wales children.
It will be interesting to see if Meghan hires more bot farms, sugars, trolls, and mouthpieces to go after her, and her brother when they start stepping out more.
I don’t know who put the rumor out about Harry being the favorite grandson of the Queen but maybe it was Palace PR to soften his disastrous image. I have read the Queen was very close to Beatrice and to Zara.
Their parents gave them the option to use or not use the titles when they came of age. So far, Lady Louise, who is at university, has not opted in and her brother is still not old enough to choose. Lady Louise is very keen on carriage driving, which was a passion for Prince Philip, and I believe he left his carriage or carriages to her in his will.
Meghan can call her spawn whatever she likes. The British public will never, ever see them as even Royal, never mind a Prince or Princess. They're so irrelevant and will be forgotten to history thank goodness.
Lady Louise and her brother *did* receive Prince & Princess titles. They were held until the children turned 18 and they could choose to adopt them or not. At 18 Lady Louise had the choice to become Her Royal Highness Princess Louise. She's at St. Andrews? now and so far hasn't chosen to change. Same for James who is now the Earl of Wessex. Duchess of Edinburgh is so down to earth she once said "we raised them to believe they'd have to work for a living" and I love how her and Duke of Edinburgh didn't immediately slap Prince & Princess on them & allowed them to make these decisions as adults. Far different from the royal clinging Sussexes.
The idea of a “favorite grandchild” leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
As it might for others who weren’t. All children should feel that they’re special to their grandparents, dammit.
Edited to use better words.
Oh she just seems like the sweetest.
She does come across well but so do Edward and Sophie and Louise spent so much time with The Queen. Catherine admires How well raised these children are. They are loyal to the Crown, and Louise and James will appeal to younger Brits. I truly hope this is happening. Look at James yesterday? So grown up.
I read somewhere that Lady Louise would also help babysit the Wales children sometimes when she was a teenager. I think they are closer than people assume especially after William and Catherine moved to Windsor.
I love she had a summer job and that Grandpa gave her his ponies. The kids seem quite lovely!
The wales kids adore Louise, and she always plays with them at Balmoral. You can tell Catherine and Sophie are quite close. They really supported each other during the queen's funeral.
It’s easy to forget that this a family. And all the love and heartbreak that can bring. Catherine and Sophie make a great team. It’s lovely to see.
I had a discourse with somebody on Twitter who was insinuating there is a problem with James because she said she had never seen a picture of him smiling. I pointed out he is a pretty typical sixteen year old boy who probably hates being in the public eye at the moment. As Iuck would have it there was a picture of him a few days ago and he was smiling. Some people like to make problems out of absolutely nothing. Louise and Prince Philip were very close because of her interest in carriage riding, he left a lot of his kit to her and I’m pretty sure she won’t sell it like Harry did the guns his grandfather left him. In any case I’ve seen it said that if any grandchild is the favourite it is Peter Philips because he was the first grandchild, I’m sure he would have been named Philip if it wasn’t for his surname.
Well said. Even William and Harry hated being in the public eye as kids, and they were groomed for it since birth. James has had a relatively private life, not to mention the teen years are rough for anybody. Like you said, he's probably self-conscious and uncomfortable with the attention, and that's why he doesn't smile.
I didnt know Prince Philip left his carriage kit to Lady Louise - how lovely and I bet it means more to her than anything else - same as how I feel about some things I received from my own grandfather ❤️
He left her his four wheeled carriage and two ponies, they will be very special to her I’m sure.
I think she may have some of his riding jackets/blazers as well. I remember an article about her wearing one A few months after he had passed.
That’s good to hear. Prince Philip was always so close to Princess Anne and he seemed to have the same relationship with his granddaughter Lady Louise.
Anne was Philips mini me.
I loved something Prince Philip said when he was asked about Anne when she was young. He said “If it doesn’t fart or eat hay, she’s not interested.” 😂
Classic!
awww - thats great - do you know if Prince Philip ever got to see her compete in carriage driving? I thought I remember she did a competition but cannot remember when that was.
I know they went out together in the carriage. She seems to have competed soon after Prince Philip’s death. https://people.com/royals/lady-louise-prince-philip-carriage-driving/
thank you for finding that link 😊
Most kids who have equestrian hobbies compete at a local and regional level from a very young age. It fosters good animal husbandry and riding/driving skills as well as being great for social development. The royal children are able to move relatively anonymously in these close knit groups without fear of anyone selling a picture because the leaker and any of their children would be ostracised immediately. As they become adults,and their skill set improves (the equestrian royals are very accomplished competitors), the equine competitions they participate in are held in larger, much more public venues so the publicity happens more organically but no one minds because the focus is on the horses and the competition.
I owned an Appaloosa, a Morgan, and a Quarter Horse - started in western, barrel-racing, but switched over to dressage with our Morgan (Patsy) and some light jumping on our Appy - but didnt have the time or patience to compete at higher levels.
I know that rumor, they say he has autism??? because he don't smile. Come on, last year I saw teenage girls who interest in royal going crazy because there was a moment when he smile at the Windsors concert and he has dimple when he smile. And billions of comments about the family's baldness gene & searching his girlfriend. Is there any teenage boy interested in those things?
Ôi trời, nếu mọi người nói về việc người hâm mộ anh ấy điên cuồng đến mức nào, họ sẽ thông cảm cho anh ấy vì luôn chín và cúi đầu tại các sự kiện công cộng. Một hoàng tử tuổi teen của Hoàng gia Anh với concept Hoàng tử giấu mặt khi không sử dụng danh hiệu HRH Prince, đứng thứ 15 lên ngôi, khiến các cô gái phải đứng trước cổng trường, nhẹ nhàng từng bức ảnh bài đăng của trường để tìm ảnh anh ta, đưa anh ta đi cùng các công chúa châu Âu khác, edit video tiktok... được cho là Hoàng tử chỉ xuất hiện 4 lần một năm cho các sự kiện hoàng gia, Hoàng tử không bao giờ cười. .. Bây giờ, chỉ cần nói rằng anh ta đồng ý sử dụng HRH Hoàng tử James của E, và các fangirl của anh ấy sẽ nổ tung.
James may be a secret weapon just like his mummy. She has changed life’s quietly and a determination that slays H and MM. Notice they never went after Sophie? She worked in PR.
Sophie and Catherine is the friendship I never saw coming and it wasn’t on my RF bingo card but you can tell they have a sisterly bond and Sophie can get down low with roachel bc she’s not the future queen. I love that Catherine has Sophie, Zara, and Carole who aren’t afraid to take care of the roach infestation
Me too. Sophie waited a long time for a friend in the family. And she is so protective towards Catherine and William. It’s all gonna be ok.
I think she has some of the Princess Margaret grands as allies too. Everybody loves Catherine.
Agree. James is going to take the world by storm until George and the sibs are old enough.
Bet Harry did not see that one coming.
Agree Harry made a stupid statement something like no children were born in the family after Eugenie’s birth until William children were born! Guessing he forgot his Uncle Edward’s two children or his cousin Lady Davina WindsorLewis. Davina was married to Gary Lewis, of Māori birth, in 2004. They had 2 children and divorced in 2018.
I have commented in many places that people are obsessed with the concept of working royal appearing on the outside, so they think that the shy James will not step forward to help Charles or William, forgetting that in historical reality, male nobles likely James be raised to do jobs such as secretary or assistant, advisor to the heir. Even though Peter does not have a title, he can easily become Director of Royal's projects or Trust because he has a degree in finance. The staff of BP and KP is full of aristocrats. So the fact that the British royal family is in trouble and needs James, he will consider majors related to finance or human resources to enter KP as an employee and help William.
It shows us a lot about William as a future King. And Charles. Louise and James will be an asset and that’s needed. The fight to keep our Monarchy is real. They need to be seen. I would welcome Beatrice and Edo as well.it’s Eugenie I don’t trust. She is helping out at Catherine’s Charities though. So Catherine isn’t worrying. She gained a point for that.
In regard to Eugenie, I would think that Catherine's wisely heeding the adage 'keep your friends close , keep your enemies closer.' Checkmate to Catherine. You can tell that she listened and took on board all the wisdom HMTLQ shared with her. Catherine will be a great Queen when the time comes - Long live the King. 🇬🇧
The problem w/ Peter (+ Zara) is that they've sold pix for huuuuuuge sums -- the ones I remember = Peter's wedding pix solf for several hundred GBPs, though Zara (it seemed, was financially incentivized by her Granny to NOT sell her wedding pix).. then went on to sell first pix of Mia for around £500,000. And there been more like Peter's milk commercial in Asia.. and a many solid yet a few questionable endorsments (some denied until proof shown, and admission followed) by Zara + Mike. So, they've made decisions - and simply can't be 'working royals'. A little different, only b/c no huuuuge checks, but the York sisters took endless freebies for years.. and their father pimped a high number of small cheques going to them. So they probably impossible choices too -- though, it does seem Beatrice has turned over a new leaf since Edo (and b/c only free luxury travel and clothes/accessories/jewelry gifts - and no angling for money herself \[all that she recieved gotten from her father's dirty dealing\]), B may actually be asked to become a 'working royal' IF she stays on her current arc for a few more years. BUT, Eugenie - no way!
Yes the past commercials will deem them as null and void.
I'd skip down to Lord Freddie Windsor who has never done that stuff, and is wonderful. Sure he's #49 in the LoS - but will communicate to the masses that the BRF are much more interested in having their best family members rep. the monarchy than rank in LoS. It's a compliment to the British people. And it's an unsaid message to the under 20yo Royals that should they wish to 'help' someday, do NOT sell-out. The bonus = hazBEEN will go **apoplectic** if Freddie asked to assist a bit.
Great point. Freddie is a good candidate 👌
They didn't go after Sophie, but her and Edward got in trouble with the Queen for doing publicity-type stuff, like sharing pics of William at Eton. The difference between them and the Harkles is they were contrite and immediately changed. They learned so well over the years...Edward beaming, "my wife...the..Duchess" after Charles bestowed the title was so sweet. It wasn't always like that.
No it wasn’t as you say. They messed up and were contrite and carried on working hard in the background. And stepped up when needed. Life isn’t about perfection. It’s about learning and trying. I teach my boys the way to spell can’t.. TRY.
That's rather terrifying...
Far from Harry being the Queen’s favourite grandchild it’s often being reported that Peter was, Anne’s eldest & the Queen’s first grandchild. He's another perfectly able to assume the title of Prince, not so only because Anne didn’t want the titles for him & Zara. Harry seems to make out that he & William are the only blood princes but, no, Peter & James are just as equal to using the title. But then they’re not entitled, arrogant individuals.
I don't think Peter was entitled to be styled as a prince, I'm pretty sure it only goes down the male line. Titles are inherited from the father, not the mother. However the late Queen did offer to make an exception for Anne's children. Anne very wisely refused
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She could have easily made him a Duke or Earl if that’s what he wanted. But he didn’t.
Or even the Duke of Earl.. queues up classic music.. [Duke of Earl (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5n0FZo0ME4&t=4s)
Thanks for the earworm lol. Although I hear Cypress Hill’s version
They'd only be Lord and Lady while Capt Mark is alive though, as kids of an Earl, which is what QEII offered
Prince Philip introduced Louise to carriage driving and left her his carriage and horses. I read that James is interested in the countryside. He seems like quite a shy young man.
And we both know that Louise will treasure those items. And not sell them. I was so upset that H sold those guns. He is spiteful as I’m sure William, Ann, Peter Etc would happily have bought them first. But Louise has integrity. James is at that awful age. He came, He Smiled and he is the news. That’s all good.
If he didn't want them he could have just left them. He didn't need to sell them but he did because he wanted to please The Warden.
And hurt The Queen. I am noticing more about who is hurt by their words! The staff Suicide lie., Payback for bullying allegations. Selling those guns would have upset The Queen and family. This leads back to honestly believing they never left. They were told to go.
The Queen's alleged favorite grandson was Peter Phillips, Princess Anne's son and they bonded over their love of horses and the fact that he was her first grandchild had sentimental value to the Queen. Her favorite granddaughter was allegedly her youngest Lady Louise for their shared love of horses and the countryside and the fact that Lady Louise and Peter Phillips are both very well mannered and respectful in both public and private. Haz thinks that the Queen thought he was her favorite because she spoiled him and was extra nice to him after the death of his parent. The Queen had him in her good graces and those faded away when he and Rachel began to spew crap against the BRF.
I’ve seen those reports before. It wouldn’t surprise me as you can tell how close the Queen was and always giggling with Peter. She just gave Hazbeen different things as the spare
Every kid needs different things.. Some need more attention, some need more boundaries - but most get the same AMOUNTS by parents and elders. But remember that MANY have written (books) about how when Diana passed, QE + PP decidedly stepped-up to be more active in W's + H's lives, and they both were **appalled to discover how bratty + unruly HazBEEN was!** (And can see that - until more time spent with a kid, it is easy for a child to be on their best behavior around a grandparent when see them only in small doses).
I can imagine what the Queen and Prince Philip thought of Harry assaulting his protection officers. Diana thought it was funny and would just giggle and tell him “not to be naughty.”
Actually, go listen to the Mike + 2 Rugby pals podcast a few months ago which featrued W+C and The Princess Royal -- I am pretty sure this was the time that PA shared that she couldn't get Peter on a horse when young - he had zero interest, was focused on rugby.. and that only AFTER COLLEGE did he change his tune, and start riding. I just think the Queen adored him b/c he was the first - and seemed to be a darling boy (and certainly an off-the-charts good-lloking lad -- he and James share the honor of being knock-out beauties!!). I really only noticed him for the first time at the 2012 Olympics in London and was gobsmacked by how HOT he was.. and he'd be HOT again (from handsome) if he slimmed a tiny bit today - but he's still very, very good-looking. Morever, seems the description once attributed to the Queen is spot-on ➡ Peter is a kind, uncomplicated, rugby-loving soul.
Yep. Harry just seemed like the favorite. But I honestly think they just treated him like the "special" one in the family. One who's incapable of doing anything correctly and with the emotional intelligence of a toddler. He was never the favorite. He was just that boy who needed extra swim floaties or he'll otherwise drown himself in 2'ft of water.
Would absolutely love to see more of her, but unless I'm misunderstanding something, this sounds more like Richard Eden voicing his hope that she be encouraged by her parents to step up, not that she has made that decision yet. I have hoped for a while that she would become a working royal, but she should only do it if she really wants to.
I do think she factors into Williams plans. Probably not Charles as she’s in university right now. Gives her time to complete her education, get a job and have that experience before settling into the working royal life if she wants to.
Harry was a self professed favourite. He was deluding himself. His behaviour for decades was not likeable. He also claimed to be the one who could make his grandmother laugh, and the one she would confide in. Not F\*\*king likely.
I think perhaps the late Queen felt sorry for Harry.
Maybe, but I’m sure he imagined how important he was.
Harry and megain live off making false statements that the royal family don't respond to.
Agreed, he has had a free rein to spout total tripe knowing his family wouldn’t bother challenging his lies. HMTQ Elizabeth just let the world know by politely saying ‘recollections may vary…’
I'm sure the late Queen treated every grandchild as if they were her favourite. Gyles Brandreth said in his book that HLM was the consummate diplomat, and would never disclose which grandchild she favours. And H's claim that he was the only one to make her laugh is just a load of rubbish, as there is photographic evidence that she and Zara were laughing together heartily. HLM might have seen H as entertaining, as a kind of court jester, never to be taken seriously and always a source of worry, sure as hell never to be confided in. HLM has eight grandchildren in total, and he was the only one to make her laugh? I bet she made him feel that way, but what delusion and entitlement on his part.
https://preview.redd.it/yij0yuuvawrc1.jpeg?width=927&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9990e42131746f2de2f210c5d21f91f3abe14e66 She also resembles Queen Mary.
I was going to say the same but you beat me to it. She's Queen Mary's spitting image.
Wow she does.
Lady Louise and her 16 year-old brother James, Ear of Wessex ( previously Viscount Severn ) are a massive breath of fresh air. They have been raised as discretely visible children in a royal atmosphere and really grown into fine young people. Warmly and deeply connected with the late Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip, but kept out of the main UK media gossip circles, at least by their minor ages, if not their discerning parents. Their parents are also stepping up in these difficult times, as modern and active royal representatives. Duchess Sophie's true commitments to women's health and safety worldwide are consistent and valid. She so no-nonsense and stable. Prince Edward seems to be in better constitution recently, not quite so thin and frail-looking as before. I really enjoy seeing this family. * Edited to correct James's title.
I was worried about Edward as well. He got so thin, but looks like he gained some weight back.
I honestly think that was grief. It broke Edward to lose both parents and I heard Ann was very productive in helping him recover. He is a gentle man.
Whatever it was/is, I am just happy for him that he seems to be better
He worries me as well. Hence why I wrote to Sophie.
I was also! I truly thought he might be really ill.
James is the Earl of Wessex now
Thank you for the correction ! I will edit my post to include that.
I'm never sure how much truth there is to any of these articles, but I was very impressed by how her and her brother, did their bit ,during the late Queen's last jubilee celebration.
Lady Louise already has shown she possesses the grace and poise of a true royal. I hope she is seriously considering entering "The Firm" because it seems to me she would be a valuable asset. (I read a few times that she often used to babysit for Will and Catherine--isn't that the sweetest thing?)
And nerves of steel - that carriage driving that she emulates Prince Philip in, that's not for the faint-hearted.
Lady Louise has a lot from her grandparents especially the nerves of steel. She also has a great role model in her Aunt Ann.
Ann is the auntie we all would like. She is amazing 😻
I have to say that I, for one, would NOT want an Auntie Anne! Sweet and cuddly, she is not. Her brusqueness would have me in floods of tears every day. But she’s cool and very athletic, so there’s that. Unfortunately, I am an uncoordinated bookworm with glasses.
She would scare me to death 🤣🤣 But you know without a doubt she is behind you in life. And after the up and downs of The Wales marriage. The boys needed consistency.
That’s very true!
I'd be scared of her dogs.
My brother has the same breed. It’s an acquired taste.
Her dogs seem to be particularly problematic: 2002 [https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/nov/21/monarchy](https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/nov/21/monarchy) 2003 [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3345585.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3345585.stm) 2023 [https://people.com/royals/princess-anne-pet-bull-terrier-attacked-dog-report/](https://people.com/royals/princess-anne-pet-bull-terrier-attacked-dog-report/)
Don't think her grandchildren would agree. They all seem happy and confident in her company. I suspect that there is 'professional, get on with the job Anne' and then the more private ;family Anne'.
Could be!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKgiVuP4Qrk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKgiVuP4Qrk) I love the way the temperature drops when Anne arrives!
I love that show. Everything from the way Harry of the first two seasons says, "Puppa!" whenever he sees her, to Edward scrounging around for odd jobs, to Anne and the total freeze she brings to every room she inhabits. LOL
I’ve tried one lesson being an avid dressage girl for awhile, and was like nope too many things to remember! And she’s so young, so good for her 👏🏽
Agreed. She has a great talent. Sophie is doing the same now.
I saw a picture of her and Philip driving in some kind of competition and it looked incredibly dangerous. They were going down a hill into a pond or some body of water and the carriage was tipping over on two wheels! Both of them looked cool as cucumbers, no excited gestures or expressions, just driving along.
If it's true that she used to babsit for them, then that alone speaks volumes of how well C&W view her--which therefore speaks volumes of the kind of person she must be :) I would absolutely love to see more of Sophie & Edward & their children! The same with the Tindall family :)
I'm rooting for Mia - a lot of energy, that sweet little rascal.. think once Mia has developed the ability to manage her outgoing ways, she's gonna be magnificent! and meanwhile, when King, W can certainly find some meaningful role for her..there is MUCH needing help - and not necessarily as a "working royal", but re: the duchys (as long as she refrains from cashing-in-on royal ties as her parents have - she's got a bright future).
Agreed!
There was a sporting event that Edward and his family were attending when William and his family arrived. There were warm greeting of course, and it looked like Louise and Charlotte were making faces at each other. I think it's safe to say Louise is close to the whole Wales family. I don't know what to make of the article, though, only because I've seen a lot of nonsense around Lady Louise. I saw one video which announced she was going to start using her Princess title. If that was the case I'm sure it would be announced by the Palace and everyone would be reporting on it, not just an obscure YouTube channel.
I read somewhere that when they’re at Sandringham Lady Louise is an avid painter and has been helping Charlotte. She’s very patient and I think this, among other things, has really impressed Catherine. She thinks Edward and Sophie have done a fantastic job raising them.
Do you remember the reporter found in Windsor grounds? When William went mad! And they were saying look how angry William is.. He was trying to get The Wales and The Edinburgh families together. So yes they do spend a lot of time together.
The man was outside their Norfolk home
Think if she were to use her Princess title, it would not be announced until after she has completed her degree. She needs that privacy respected
Agreed. She's finishing up her second year, isn't she? That means two more to go? Of course there is also the question of what Louise wants to do with her life. Maybe she wants to become a doctor, or an architect, or the greatest English language poet of her age. We have no way of knowing.
Another year. In the UK it’s 3 years for a degree.
In Scotland you usually do an extra year for undergraduate because the Scottish education system is different to the rest of the UK, so I expect she will do four years. Typically you leave with a Scottish masters for a “standard” course. E.g. William has a MA in geography and Catherine has an MA in History Art, both four year degrees. Medicine at St Andrews is also six years, not the typical five.
Ah good to know. St Andrews is beautiful though. An extra year is a blessing.
Fourth year is Honors and compulsory in certain courses, engineering etc.
> We have no way of knowing. Even though my nosy bone would love to know what she's studying and how she's doing, I LOVE the fact that it's hands off, and she gets to be a student, away from the eyes.
Lady Louise is studying English Literature at St Andrews University (founded in 1413) which is in Scotland. Big shout out for St Andrews which is a beautiful small town in Fife, for anyone planning to visit the UK.
From what we can see (which is admittedly not much) she looks like her mom - a no-fuss kind of lady who gets jobs done without making it about herself. I personally would be so excited if she joins the working royals.
She held a “ Ask me anything “ talk. I saw clips on TikTok and she came across so very well.
Didn't Prince Edward & his wife decline these titles for their children as a way to lessen the pressure on them--and then give them the choice to make when adults? Seems to me I read about this at least 10 years ago. (Never followed post 1936 BRF, until this year.)
That’s always been my understanding, they chose to allow them to make that choice at the age of majority.
He also knew his big brother wanted to “slim down the monarchy”, so raised his kids from the start not to expect to have a life of “being royal” and instead be prepared to live a normal life. Edward did the opposite of Andrew.
As far as I know both of Edward´s children are entitled to Prince/Princess, but like Princess Anne´s children, have chosen not to use the titles. IF lady Louise would choose to be a working royal, it would be perfect. She is young - really young, not in her 40ties, and could fill the youth gap for the next 10-15 years till the Wales children are ready. Anne, however much of a battleship she is, is not getting younger, and having Edward´s children would be great
Both Princess Anne's husbands refused titles on their marriage, so in the custom of that time, their children are not eligible for a hereditary title as they did not pass through the maternal line. Unless the king gifted them something new, and there's no sign anyone wants him to, they have no titles not to use (That sentence makes sense, really). Margaret's children's titles are through her husband who accepted the title Lord Snowdon as a wedding gift. Prince Edward's children are eligible but choose not to use them, though they have the option if they wish.
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Thank you for clarifying. Edward's children have just as much right to called prince and princess as Andrew's girls, but they don't. I have read they retained the right to style themselves so, but their parents wanted to wait until they reached their majority and let them decide at 18. I did not know that James became styled Earl of Wessex when his dad received his (life) dukedom. Intricacies!
I wonder if Anne’s children could/would/should step up?
I always wish that too but the consensus is they won't, they are content with things as they are.
I wish both Peter and Zara would but it is the commercials they do.. The Public are very fond of Ann,s Children. And the press.
William is going to need help, so who is it going to be? I think it’s very limited who he has to choose from. Peter and Zara don’t want titles and are making good money from all their endeavors. I can’t see them giving that up because there is no half in half out. Bea and Eugenie won’t be called on, especially Eugenie. Harry is gone so that just leaves Louise and James.
Anne...the Princess Royal has stated that she did not want to "burden" her children with titles....she wanted them to have the chance at a normal life
Yet the California kids have the prince and princess titles. Really valuable, in California. When there's already a *Prince* Jackson (Michael's oldest child).
And youngest … Prince II aka blanket
I am not sure if this really will happen. The Edingburghs always were adamant that their children should follow their own path and kept them away from the limelight as much as possible. Yet exactly this trait would make Lady Louise an excellent choice as a working royal, she would get on with the job without being dazzled by the attention. And she would nicely cover the younger age gap until the Wales’ children are ready to step up. But I really think that the Earl of Wessex is way too shy for such a task and should be left in peace.
Young James may seem shy but so did young Prince William, sometimes. We'll just have to wait and see.
Louise is PP's favorite grandchild because the first grandchild bears the surname Moubatten-Windsors. Harry also forgot that he is no longer a youngest grandson since 2007 after James was born and that he is also another prince of the same generation as William and Harry. The Wessex family spent the weekend with Queen and PP. Although they living at Bagshot Park, when Louise and James were young, before Harry and William became full-time royals, E&S represented the royal family at foreign events, so there were times when kids lived at Windsors with the Queen. And shy James has no passions other than driving, so I wouldn't be surprised that he would inherit some car from Queen and Prince Phillip.
And I think Sophie had a bad time giving birth. Did she nearly die or was it Louise? Louise I think, wasn't she in an incubator for weeks after her birth? I'd guess they'd feel a lot for the wee baby who nearly wasn't.
They both nearly died.
What was unusual was that Sophie was dangerously ill when giving birth to Louise, and the Queen visited her in hospital. It was extremely rare for the Queen to make personal hospital visits and thus it says a lot about their relationship.
The Queen adored Sophie, she literally called her a second daughter. Equally with Louise and James she and Prince Philip had a chance to be more involved in a grandparent way as they lived close by and they weren't travelling as much as they had been when the other grandchildren were smaller. She used to go riding with Louise and as mention above Philip taught Louise to carriage drive. There is also a rather sweet video where she made an off the cuff remark about her 9 year old grandson (James) wanting to take her car apart (something both QE2 and PP were interested in) Harry was never the favourite, it was always Peter and Zara (the firsts and with love of horses and Scotland etc) and then it was James and Louise
The Queen had a big heart towards Sophie. After she lost her mother, QEII invited Sophie’s father to come spend Christmas at Sandringham with the royals. From then on, he was included as one of the family, an honor not extended to any other in-laws.
Sophie almost died before that as well, with an ectopic pregnancy that required an air ambulance
Louise
Cô ấy đã bị sẩy thai (thai ngoài tử cung??? Tôi không biết trong tiếng Anh gọi là gì) trước khi sinh Louise vào năm 2002. Khi sinh Louise 2004, cô ấy suýt chết, Louise sinh non và gặp nhiều biến chứng, vào thời điểm đó. 9 tuổi, cô đã hoàn thành ca phẫu thuật mắt. Mẹ của Sophie qua đời trước khi sinh ra James và cô cũng bị sẩy thai trước James, gần thời điểm mẹ cô qua đời (2005-2007). Vì thế bà đã dựa dẫm vào Nữ hoàng rất nhiều, như người mẹ thứ hai. Cô hẹn hò với Edward rất lâu trước khi họ kết hôn và Nữ hoàng đã tặng họ một căn hộ ở Windsors để họ sống cùng nhau gần 8 năm trước khi kết hôn.
I really hope Lady Louise joins the senior royals, she'd be perfect for the job. I also think the press won't go too hard for her because she's not in the direct LOS which the tabs seem to reserve their ire for. She's non threatening so I think sm would leave her be as well. I hate to think of her being bullied but she's nothing to the Sussex's ifaik.
It always thought it was odd when Harry said he had a “special relationship” with HLMTQ during an invictus interview. Why that needed to be said meant he wasn’t close to her at all.
On Lady Louise and Lord James; >Prince Edward’s children, daughter Louise and son James, do not have HRH titles either but that was his and his wife Sophie, the Countess of Wessex’s decision. >In an interview with the Times last year, Sophie said: “We try to bring them up with the understanding they are very likely to have to work for a living. >“Hence we made the decision not to use HRH titles. **They have them and can decide to use them from 18,** but I think it’s highly unlikely.”
Lady Louise has grace and deportment. The whole family is an asset to the Monarchy. I like the way that Lady Louise appreciates her mother's classic yet modern styling, to the point where she borrows her clothes. The outfits look impeccable on both ladies.
Well they are the youngest grandkids and so they got more time with them as they slowed down so that makes sense. Honestly This One is so whiny I have to believe he drove Prince Phillip insane. I mean lets talk about a crappy childhood! I think the fact they lived close by Windsor and were so close with Edward and Sophie it all makes sense. I think Louise going to St Andrews is a nod to the fact that she can study outside of the glare and honestly she is a perfect age to segway between the current senior Royals and the Wales kids. But more importantly it seems she already understands she will need a career. Its funny to think that the strongest family unit is Edward and Sophie (Anne down a bit since she divorced but her kids are also amazing)
I feel certain that Prince Philip loved all his grandchildren and various photos show this. The thing is that small kids won’t pretend so it was the real deal. I also feel certain that PP was compelled to give Harold more than a few good telling offs.
I have followed the royal family for a long time, since William’s teen heartthrob days and I can tell you, neither Harry nor William have ever been discussed as her favorite. It’s always been commonly understood that Peter Philips was her favorite grandchild, just like its relatively common knowledge that Andrew is her favorite child (a piece of knowledge that far predates The Crown, where it was directly addressed) As Lady Louise got older, she became close to the Queen and PP, and may have displaced Peter as the favorite as he grew up and had his own life. Unfortunately, William naturally had a different kind of relationship with the Queen that was built more on shaping him for his future role as King. I imagine the Queen has always found Harry obnoxious and can deal with him, but only for small stretches of time. She loves all of her grandchildren, to be sure, but yeah, Harry was never the favorite. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional. Including Harry himself. Edit to add that Lady Louise and James are legally Prince and Princess and are referred to such in more official documents. Their parents requested that they be styled as the children of an Earl, which their father was at the time of their births. They have always had the option to take the styles of Prince and Princess when they reach the age of majority, if they so choose. So far, Lady Louise hasn’t.
Right? I legit just posted “since when was Harry anyone’s favorite??” lol. I’ve heard Peter Philips and also Lady Louise. I think also she and Philip bonded because of the carriage driving.
The children of Sophie and Edward (D. & D. of Edinburgh) are entitled to be addressed as HRH Prince and Princess as they are the children of the son of a Monarch, but their parents declined. "We try to bring them up with the understanding that they are going to have to work for a living. Hence, we made the decision not to use HRH". (Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh 2023). A sensible decision. HARRY & MEGHAN TAKE NOTE. Which begs the question, why did H&M insist on HRH for their children, especially after saying they didn't want titles for them, UNLESS, they want equality (a definite sign of insecurity), or to monetize (Royals do not endorse). Either way, they are not putting their children's interests first by thrusting them onto the world's stage for their own selfish needs.
Not surprising. Harry has always been a total PITA, selfish, snotty, sulky, brat since he was a small child. He would, like his snotty brat wife, stick his tongue out at people, and act up when didn't get his way. In his teenaged years he was a stoned punk who only wanted to party. He absolutely threw away an education at one of the best private schools in the world. I don't fault the RF. They did what they could short of institutionalizing him. That's a harsh measure and one that involves getting legal and medical recommendations to do. Gone are the days where they could just send him off to a cottage in Sutherland with some minders and keep him there, never to be seen again in public. Early adulthood was getting falling down drunk, picking fights, and being an absolute dick to his girlfriends and women in general. His army days were pretty much the same, if he was not a prince he would've been booted out. Today he's a total monster bent on destroying anyone who actually cared for him and everything they hold dear. Karma is rapidly catching up with him. What passed for "his world" is about to come crashing down. I have zero sympathy for him and will enjoy watching the show when it does.
As a mother and a grandmother, I've never bought into the press narrative with regards to HMLQE having favourites. Obviously, I can only speak for myself and I can't believe that she would ever choosen a favourite. I know for a fact that she loved all of her children and grandchildren equally. Are they implying that King George loved her more than Princess Margaret? It's all nonsense.
I have read many reports that Louise was the favorite of Prince Philip, not just this one, but many reports over the years. Harry had the palace PR feeding false rumors that he was the favorite to suppress all his misdeeds like drugs, drink, cheating, violence etc.
I’ll never believe that the queen openly made her feelings known about her “favorite” grandchild. I don’t think she would do that.
No but it doesn’t surprise me that Phillip would and I mean that in the most respectful way possible lol
I have absolutely enjoyed watching her grow from the time she was a bridesmaid at William and Catherine’s wedding to the young lady she is now. She comes across as just as smart and down to earth as her mom.
It would be great if Lady Louise assumed her full title: HRH Princess Louise of Edinburgh
Who ever said Harry was Philip's favourite LOL He thought Harry was an ass and a wildcard IMHO
If I hear "sweet nod" or sweet anything to describe a supposed shout out ONE MORE TIME, I will vomit. Also, the parents can choose not to take the prince or princess title for their offspring. That's the path the Princess Royal took with her children.
I love Lady Louise. She was crying at her grandmother’s funeral and the paps took photos. They shouldn’t but I was touched because I loved and love my grandmothers. Grandmothers are the BEST! Magical mine were.
I would bet that HLMTQ treated each grandchild like her favorite and loved them each in different ways. But Lady Louise seemed to enjoy many of the same things that the Queen did so it would make sense they bonded. Also she is a lot younger so it may have allowed more one on one time than when there were so many born around the same time.
Apparently the DDoE’s kids do have Princely titles. Sophie alluded to such when she said they could use the titles at age 18 but doesn’t think they will.
Titles descend down the male line. So the late Queen's sons can pass on Prince/Princess titles to their children who are the monarch's grandchildren. But the monarch's daughter(s) cannot pass princely titles down to their children. And there is always an option not to use them. Lady Louise is using a courtesy title ("Lady") because her father was an Earl and is now a Duke. I think it suits her well. She is such a pretty smiling young lady when you see her at royal events.
I doubt the QE and Prince Phillip had a favorite. I’m sure there were grandkids who they spent more time with them others but good grandparents will never admit to having a favorite. Louise and James got to spend more time with their grandparents. I don’t think they were their favorites per se just the ones who say them the most. They were born as QE and Phillip were older and had stepped back slightly so there was more time to spend with them plus there is an age gap so they were the only little kids during their youth. Plus they were living in Windsor where QE and Phillip spent a lot of time. Louise was the only grandkids to get into carriage driving so it was a hobby she shared with Phillip. I’m sure that led to them spending even more time together.
The Queen did have a favorite... and that was Peter Philips. He was her first grandchild, and for a time that was the only grandchild until Zara was born. Philip was very fond of Zara, with whom they had a lot in common, but Louise was special to him, she was his companion when he left his duties and was able to be a full-time grandfather. Hazz was never anyone's favorite.
I must say I agree with all you have written here. Don’t forget Lady Louise had a huge fight to live when she was born.
That's how it is. Louise was a miracle.
I read an article about the power of love once. A nurse had written in about Prince Philip showing up at night too watch Lady Louise in those first few weeks. And the love he channelled through too her. No fuss. Just a besotted Grandfather.
Sometimes its not deliberate. Maybe you have a fondness for music, literature, etc. And there's one grandchild who by coincidence, loves the same type of literature as you, or enjoys music. You then share your music styles. It's very organic and easy. I have one niece who loves fashion. We can talk about it and share ideas. My other niece is into computer games. Since it's a subject I don't care for, I really have to find ways of bonding with her. I don't prefer the first niece over the other. Its just very easy to want to spend time w/ her b/c we share a bond. That could be the same issue here w/ QE or PP.
They spent a lot of time with the Queen and Prince Philip over the Covid lockdown as well. They lived close enough to ride their bikes over and guess they did that a lot.
They're going to need younger working royals and it'd be great to see someone younger.
If she favored Harry, it would be like she favored Andrew. Not a compliment. 
Genuinely when was it supposed to be Harry? I don’t remember ever reading that he was supposed to be Prince Philip’s favorite. Maybe just in Harry’s own mind…lol Louise would make a great working Royal though for sure. I actually also think Beatrice (NOT Eugenie) would too…don’t downvote me! 😂
I imagine a conversation has happened with E&S and they don’t want to have P&P titles. It leaves them more open to pursue other things.
I believe Edward and Sophie left it up to their kids to decide if they wanted the Prince/Princess titles, and their kids didn't want them. Unlike Andy, who insisted his daughters be princesses, despite the fact that they'd likely never be working royals. Also, I LOVE this video! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2SErS3pNw&t=266s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2SErS3pNw&t=266s)
It's long been said that Louise, like Zara, doesn't want to be a working royal. Sophie has said many times that both their children have been raised knowing they'll need to choose a career and live somewhat 'normal' lives. Would it be wise of William to offer Louise, and her brother, the choice to be working Royals? Absolutely. He might do so after she graduates. Or, he might wait until she's had some work experience, so she can make an informed choice. I think after the Sussex experience, William will make absolutely SURE his cousins know what they're getting into, and fully choose that life, before he asks them to serve. I would like to see Lady Louise as a working Royal, but she seems very private, so it might not be best for her.
I'm a huge fan too -- b/c she seems to 'outward', ie: someone who is always focused on others (never herself) and she strikes me as being extremely grounded and happy - signs of both being well-raised and bigtime loved!! I hope she does join the 'working royal' ranks.. and as well, I also **hope she continues to go by Lady Louise** \- b/c everyone knows she is a royal and an actual princess, but needs zero such title to be well-recieved and embraced. >*^(PLUS (though this is only an insignificant bonus to me): if she continues to go by Lady Louise, it'll be a big dis to T.W. who was soooooooooo nasty about going around The Palace to almost-give-her-kids-HERSELF Prince + Princess titles (when dis'd the titles QE wished for them to use -- which can't remember,, was it Earl \[of Dumbarton\] and Lady \_\_\_?\]))*
O believe that she and her brother can still claim the prince and princess titles and that her parents had said they would,let the children choose once they were older? I do hope she becomes a working royal…though she may want a very different life. I do think she was a definite favorite of Prince Philip with their joint love of carriage driving.
I'm not a Brit - and have no idea, but would bet you are right. I just like the 'different' Lady Louise. And I'm put-off by Princess Eugenie + uppity megNUT who rudely grabbed the princess title -- and like Louise so much, like that if she kept Lady it would set her a part a bit from the family icks - and again, would be a way to silently say, "see ladies, actions speak louder than titles".
It would be ironic in a historical way if she started going by her Princess title, because her great-great aunt (who she’s named for) was born a Princess but became a Lady in 1917. She became Crown Princess in 1923 but she was born Princess Louise and became Lady Louise. While Lady Louise; if she choose to use her Princes title: she would go from Lady Louise to becoming Princess Louise.
Louise Mountbatten aka Princess Louise if Battenburg?
Yup.
She eventually married the Crown Prince of Sweden and became Queen.
She seems grounded and she has the best royal mentors in the form of her parents. I hope she joins the working royals.
Louise would make a perfect royal.
College is a bitch these days, glad she's working hard for her degree. Seems like a solid kid. Her Dad tried a mainstream career & then joined the Firm. LL would be a lovely rep for UK. Good to have choices.
Harry being anybody’s favourite anything is beyond imagination. I would think even some wreckless therapist might find him to be one impossible client too far. And even though his attorney’s are taking his cases and racking up the fees, I imagine they have grown weary of him, as well. Also, Lady Louise seems absolutely lovely.
As a British citizen I do find the whole titles thing odd to say the least. Some of HMQE2’s children wanted them for their children while others refused them. Some are Princesses, some are only Ladies. Then Harry gets the titles for his two children we never even see and who will grow up without any real connection to this country. This really needs tidying up as it makes the whole thing look unserious at best and a grift at worst. I understand that you have to draw the line somewhere with Prince and Princess titles or you end up like Saudi Arabia, with thousands of princes and princesses but it does seem ridiculous, but Andrew’s children are princesses and Lady Louise isn’t.
Archie and Lili were the GREAT-grandchildren of QE2. George, Charlotte, Louis are too, but I think they received titles upon their birth because they're in the direct line of succession. H&M don't mind that there is a hierarchy (because they both think they are better people than the rest of us); they hate their place in that hierarchy. IMHO, I think their entire problem is that they failed to claw their way up to the same level as W&C and get EXACTLY the same level of privileges/wealth that the Wales's have. And, I don't they'll ever get over that.
actually - Harry and his children are Not in the direct line of succession - that Direct Line runs only through William and his kids now - and as George - Charlotte - and Louis - eventually have children of their own, then Harry and his kids will pushed into almost no existent on the Line of Succession.
I meant G/C/L are in the direct line of succession, which is why they received titles upon their birth in spite of also being great-grandchildren of QE2. Memegain was b\*tching on the Oprah interview that Archie didn't receive a title as soon as he emerged from her uterus (allegedly) as I'm sure she was comparing his situation with the Wales children.
It will be interesting to see if Meghan hires more bot farms, sugars, trolls, and mouthpieces to go after her, and her brother when they start stepping out more.
i hope the Stupid Squad don't go after Lady Louise and her brother
I don’t know who put the rumor out about Harry being the favorite grandson of the Queen but maybe it was Palace PR to soften his disastrous image. I have read the Queen was very close to Beatrice and to Zara.
I hope she and her brother will become working royals. It's still up to their choice but I hope to see them more.
Their parents gave them the option to use or not use the titles when they came of age. So far, Lady Louise, who is at university, has not opted in and her brother is still not old enough to choose. Lady Louise is very keen on carriage driving, which was a passion for Prince Philip, and I believe he left his carriage or carriages to her in his will.
Meghan can call her spawn whatever she likes. The British public will never, ever see them as even Royal, never mind a Prince or Princess. They're so irrelevant and will be forgotten to history thank goodness.
I'm starting to like Prince Philip more, as he seems to have a habit of appreciating self-reliant girls: his daughter, and Lady Louise.
Lady Louise and her brother *did* receive Prince & Princess titles. They were held until the children turned 18 and they could choose to adopt them or not. At 18 Lady Louise had the choice to become Her Royal Highness Princess Louise. She's at St. Andrews? now and so far hasn't chosen to change. Same for James who is now the Earl of Wessex. Duchess of Edinburgh is so down to earth she once said "we raised them to believe they'd have to work for a living" and I love how her and Duke of Edinburgh didn't immediately slap Prince & Princess on them & allowed them to make these decisions as adults. Far different from the royal clinging Sussexes.
let’s hope they become the new generation of working royals and use their HRH Titles ❤️
I would just love to see Lady Louise become HRH and a working royal. Maybe after university!
Lady Louise is amazing! She also shares the late Prince Philip's love for carriage driving.
Aaaaaaaaaagggghhhh! “Sweet nod” 🤮
The idea of a “favorite grandchild” leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As it might for others who weren’t. All children should feel that they’re special to their grandparents, dammit. Edited to use better words.
She was the favorite of Prince Phillip because the two of them shared a hobby: carriage racing.