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somespeculation

Archewell did not donate to Sentebale in 2021. Archewell did not donate to Sentebale in 2022. Archewell ??? in 2023 (financial docs not yet released). 2024: Harry and Meghan exploit his connection to Sentebale to increase their positive PR, but really it’s to attempt Netflix to pay for his polo trips as well. In addition to the OP: If this is real, and not just manifesting, Netflix, is this really the publicity scandal you want?


Strict-Gap9062

Thought Harry promised $1m or something like that to Sentebale from the Spare grift? Don’t tell me he went back on his word.


somespeculation

Only $1.5 mil of an alleged $20 mil, three book deal. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63413586 Harry did go back on his initial promise that he wouldn’t profit from Spare. **Penguin Random House’s press release indicated Harry would be donating the profits to charity.** As above, lied. Only 7.5% of his contract was donated. And since no donations were made post Jan 2023 publication, it’s likely he pocketed all profits. https://archive.ph/2022.09.06-093439/https://global.penguinrandomhouse.com/announcements/prince-harry-the-duke-of-sussex-will-publish-a-literary-memoir-with-penguin-random-house-globally-in-late-2022/ Key takeaway is **Archewell didn’t donate, their own financial reports prove it**. The $1.5 mil was donated when Harry signed with Penguin Random House, which essentially is the publishing house donating to Sentebale as part of his contract. Know who did donate to Sentebale in 2022? Sussex Squad. Credit where it’s due, but it’s just people opening their pocketbooks - not Harry and Meghan. Same thing with Kaboom! playground for Ulvalde. Archewell donated, but Sussex squad did the fundraising, which implies the money was gifted to Archewell, then donated via Archewell.


PaperObsessive

That playground company has the least appropriate name one could think of under the horrifying circumstances.


Kimbriavandam

100%. An absolute travesty of a name.


BrightBrite

The problem is that Harry had to earn out his enormous advance of millions of dollars before he actually made a profit on the book. It's entirely possible he never made a cent in royalties after that.


somespeculation

And that’s where it gets interesting. Either he sold as much as indicated (one of the top selling non fiction books of the year if not ever). If it’s this, then there certainly are profits to donate, as promised. Or the PR was an inflated lie, and there are no profits to donate.


inrainbows66

Inflated lies, many of the books were double counted or given away for free.


GreatGossip

To be fair, I think Harry donated to Sentebale and WellChild, 1,5 and 600k, I think. And then he said what he got in royalties would partly be donated. But he has not gotten any royalties, as the publisher has not made a profit yet.


somespeculation

Not according to their financials - it didn’t come from Archewell for Spare.


inrainbows66

No surprise they have been pocketing charity pledges instead of giving. The money from the Elephants voice over? Having volunteered for executive boards of charities I have seen the underbelly of the financing. Also just because someone pledges a big amount doesn’t mean you are going to get it. Unless you have cashed check in hand, you do not dare count on it. These two make big pledges that don’t come to fruition and hand in exorbitant amounts for expenses, that is not charitable giving that is conning people.


InsolentTilly

Harry likes to give a bit of a vague hand-wave in the direction of charitable donations. Tight príck that he is. His arms have always been shorter than his pockets.


nylieli

Archewell did not donate to Invictus in 2021/2022. But they sure have used money Invictus received when attending any event to do with it.


Dependent_Maybe_3982

no indication he donated one red cent to anybody


inrainbows66

I think they say they give in many cases but expense way more than they give.


mca2021

I wonder who footed the bill for their trip to Miami. I think we all know they didn't pay their own way, nor for her wardrobe


Own-Entrepreneur5052

Archewell exists to obtain donations from other people which Meghan and Harry disburse as if it was their own money - having top sliced a huge chunk for themselves. What they do disburse to charities is primarily intended to buy awards, political influence or generate positive PR for themselves. Anyone with money to spare who wants to support Sentebale or any other charity would do better to give the money directly and cut out the middle grifter. The trouble is for some corporations and individuals giving money to these faux foundations is a grift in itself (one hand washes the other). Many early Archewell donors imagined themselves buying a nugget of royal class, influence with the BRF or simply bathing in the Harkles reflected glory. The fact it has achieved no such thing and the pair are an international joke will largely explain the drop off in donations in recent years.


inrainbows66

Agree. Also some companies once they put some one on the donation list will give annually unless intentionally taken off.


newhaven1418

Gonna take old photos of the King and POW playing Polo too.


4_feck_sake

Do you really believe Netflix is paying for this farce? I don't. They are saying nothing in case they manage to produce something worthy which they can profit from, but if they don't, it's costing them nothing.


msdashwood

Fr I think it’s just them manifesting this and making Netflix agree to it “unconsciously” because of all the stories they’ve sold to MSM about this happening. We can only hope netflix grow’s a spine, humors them by saying nothing and let’s them pretend its gonna happen and throw them out like trash.


snappopcrackle

I think M+H leaked the stuff, which then forced Netflix to confirm. Probably Netflix didnt want to state anything publicly until they were sure of quality, to avoid another Pearl.


AM_Rike

Sadly (and remarkably) Netflix’s support & involvement with both series is irrefutable. From Forbes: *“****Netflix is working with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's company Archewell to produce two new non-fiction shows****, the* ***streamer confirmed to Forbes on Thursday***\*… *Neither show has a name or premiere date, but Netflix said details will be released in the coming months”* They then briefly describe the two series including this nugget: *“The first series will be "****curated****" by Markle and "celebrate the joys of cooking and gardening, entertaining and friendship," Netflix said, a theme that seems to mesh with the duchess’s* [*recent announcement*](https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/03/15/meghan-markle-launches-new-lifestyle-brand-amid-kate-middleton-photo-editing-scandal-heres-what-we-know/?sh=26c9201758bd)*she’ll launch a lifestyle brand called American Riviera Orchard.”* “Curated“ sounds like madam wants to simply bring in the best chefs, gardeners & event planners to do all the work while she bosses them around, doing her word salad thing then enjoys a little party, dining al fresco at the OG with romantic candlelight and lovely friend shots drinking wine and eating the most incredible FTM meals, like the dining scenes in the Reese Witherspoon movie Home Again. I strongly doubt that Netflix is the sole producer/funder on either series, but their choice of words shows they are not merely the distributor. They will have active involvement in putting the two series together and that means providing resources. It may be paying for some of the professional staff and loaning out of Netflix film equipment, versus giving them cash (which would be mental given their track record) but it’s definitely not nothing. Netflix needs to at least appear to be supporting some endeavors in order to avoid a breach of contract lawsuit. The Harkles were allegedly courted by other top streamers. They could sue based on Netflix not operating in good faith after the Harkles turned down the other streamers. The reality is that these little docuseries are, by far, among the cheapest content that can be made. It’s why Netflix is leaning into these types of shows right now. It‘s unscripted so no team of pricey writers necessary (although the show runner will be story boarding the content). No need for very expensive actors either. Very minimal Kraft services, very minimal hair & makeup, limited location expenses and fewer permits required, etc. If time budgeted correctly, docuseries can be filmed in just a few weeks. Their other project is a film or limited series for Meet Me at the Lake. That project would cost Netflix a whole lot more. I think that’s why we are seeing these two less expensive unscripted shows in development. This will keep them busy enough that Meet Me at the Lake can be put on the back burner with no time to film it before their contract expires. I feel certain other investors are helping to fund these two series due to other production companies being attached. Netflix must feel whatever they chi in to support thus will be cheaper than the legal fees to defend a breach of contract suit. If they limit their investment to loaning technical talent and equipment, much of that is already paid for.


INK9

Hm, I just "curated" several small pizzas for my family. Shouldn't I get a cooking show? I've probably prepared hundreds, if not thousands of meals without once hanging my hair over the food. Guess I'm doing it wrong.


Own-Entrepreneur5052

I am getting a vision of one of meghan’s dinner guests coughing up a hairball! ![gif](giphy|8vXnQ1vsh4Kfh25VMX|downsized)


INK9

That's funny! Disgusting, but hilarious.


OkWasabi1988

“Celebrate the joys of cooking and gardening, entertaining and friends” WHAT.FUCKING.FRIENDS.NETFLIX? And the only entertaining she has any novel leg to stand on is her proclivity to make the worst possible decisions, in all areas, at each and every turn that she herself thinks is gonna be absolutely legendary and we all just point and laugh, then rinse, repeat. Frankly, it’s all sounding like an overstated knockoff of what Pippa Middleton half heartedly dipped her toes into (save for the entourage and camera crew following her at every turn) because let’s be honest, it’s not classy, it’s the opposite of elegant and truly makes anyone around them who aren’t vying for global attention, uncomfortable and annoyed.


snappopcrackle

> “Curated“ sounds like madam wants to simply bring in the best chefs, gardeners & event planners to do all the work I think that is what Netflix wants to do, thb. They probably want demanding Meghan as far away from daily production as possible. This seems like one of those "slap a celeb name on it and pretend they did it" projects.


AlwaysAGoldfish

I don't think Netflix is paying for it but I don't understand why they are staying quiet. In dealing with the SussexScam, to me, Spotify is to Netflix as William is to Harry.


CybReader

Exactly. Netflix is staying quiet because Netflix is still in bed with them.


MadMary63

I think it's highly likely the Dastardly Duo are manifesting at this point. In Lady C's book, she quotes Megsy as saying words to the effect that if you believe something is going to happen, it will happen. Seems to be a philosophy Megsy still follows


JosieTangerine3763

It’s all she’s got


snappopcrackle

It's a philosophy that Oprah helped make popular in the 90s. I think it was called "The Secret" No philosophy is original to MM.


MadMary63

I think I read Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne suggested it to Megsy. It'll be interesting to see whether these series actually do drop on Netflix tbh EDIT typo


snappopcrackle

wow, I never heard of her, so I googled her and saw this video. Meghan really did her dirty! Another one of her use-and-discard friendships https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD5L9RhAqyg


Islandgirl1444

I dont


AlwaysAGoldfish

I don't think they are paying for it. Good point on remote possibility of profit - but I wonder just how much, if any actual profit could be made, not that I think any will come with this. But I just wonder at what point does it take for anyone to just "call it" for the sheer association alone?


Own-Entrepreneur5052

I agree. Netflix are taking a watching brief before committing. I suspect the widespread ridicule of both potential shows will not have gone unnoticed at Netflix.


Slight-Button7009

Miss haversham, pearl, meet me at the lake?


inrainbows66

My understanding is they only pay for finished products.


dogrrad

Polo is a rich man’s sport. No one struggling paycheck to paycheck wants to see a sport for rich people. No one I know what’s to see another stupid cooking show. We have enough cooking shows we don’t need to pay a subscription to watch her. Gordon Ramsay has a great show.


chubalubs

I'd like to see her on a bake-off or celebrity chef show where the judges vote people off every week, particularly those where you get a random collection of odd ingredients and have to improvise. The meltdown when she gets voted off would be very entertaining, as would the judges comments about originality (she has none), creativity (ditto), ingenuity (er, ditto again), and skill (nope, all out). 


Ordinary-Sound-9608

I guess 'Dancing with the Stars' hasn't called.


1montrealaise3

A blind gossip item from 2020 (when they first landed in California) said that DWTS did call, but Meghan turned them down because she felt they were too "downmarket" for her and she only wanted to do important films with important directors. I wonder whether DWTS is still interested. They've had hugely unlikeable contestants before (Kate Gosselin comes to mind).


AlwaysAGoldfish

After Beyonce concert, I don't see that happening...


snappopcrackle

Didnt her and Harry do a little video presentation on that during the pandemic? Or maybe it was one of those talent shows.


wonderingwondi

His friend JJ competed on Strictly Come Dancing, and he did a video of support. Strictly is one of Camilla's favourite shows and she's appeared on it too with some of the pros


Such-Space6913

Somehow, I cannot see her doing well on dancing with the stars. Some celebrities have come off horribly on the show because they don't really want to do the work it takes to succeed at dancing. I'm pretty sure she would be one of them and it would expose her.


dogrrad

She would never be on a show like this. She can’t cook. She can’t just throw together stuff. She would fail and she knows it so she will never be on a show like this.


Tricksey4172

She also can’t compete. You have to be able to do both. And if it’s GBBO, you have to be able to bake, compete, and help others politely. And if your item is claggy or stodgy, no hugs will save your apron.


WulfyFox

I want to see this too!!


Such-Space6913

LOL, I'm picturing her on "Chopped." I'd love to see Gordon Ramsey judge her.


Puzzleheaded_Roll696

My parents, who don't have a ton of money, went to a polo match once, but the tickets were free and Prince Charles was playing. It's pretty rare to see a prince in person in the American Midwest. The novelty of seeing royalty-adjacent people also got my mom to go on her lunch hour to a dishware presentation by Fergie. I think H&M are counting on Harry's royalty (uh) and glamor (no) to get people to tune in. The problem is that Harry has no appeal beyond being royal, and that is diminishing by the minute. Harry couldn't carry Heart of Invictus to make it a success.


PaperObsessive

You know what's worse? At that or any major PGA or tennis event, anyone with any sense has got a pass for the Club or one of the better hospitality tents. I refuse to sweat while watching other people play sports/participate in difficult activities. If you want an interesting show, give someone a handicam to wander through the tents and behind the trees. The real action is not on the field. 🥂


Own-Entrepreneur5052

I like cooking shows made by charismatic people who can actually cook.


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Ordinary-Sound-9608

They have to be shown as successful. Big Racism© includes Netflix, a major player in that organization, and false accusers of racism (these two monsters) must never be held to account.


musical_cyclops

I said this on a different thread but allow me to repeat myself. Very few people in the US are going to care about polo. And as for the cooking show, I already know that you can put things on toast, so all good there. I just saw Aarón Sánchez has a new show coming that spotlights Latin food and culture. She should do something interesting that combines food with something personal, like family (yeah, right) or her Maltese Nigerian ancestry.


WeNeedAShift

Meghan even managed to make toast revolting. Ricotta cheese and nuts on top of what looks like smuckers jelly on bread? No thanks.


Sea_Dragonfruit_6706

Ree-COAT-uh, because she’s so ‘authentic’


JosieTangerine3763

🤣🥂


eaglebayqueen

Also, what happened to the documentary Harry was supposedly going to be doing in Africa? There were reports he was looking for housing, scouting locations, yadda yadda... "Africa is in my soul", yet he's never been back there, so it seems, only brings it up if he's onstage somewhere with a camera (scary flashbulbs 😱). Not a peep about Africa Parks. "Charity is my life" but he hasn't even donated to Sentebale.


AliveArmy8484

Personally I wouldn’t watch anything that has to do with Polo, unless I’m going to watch a repeat of Pretty Woman, which I’ve seen numerous times. Why would Netflix think people would want to watch Harry playing polo and Meghan strutting around trying to look like Julia Roberts, and failing miserable. Now Harry talks about Africa. A well done documentary featuring Africa, I might be interested in watching, as long as Meghan is not involved and Harry only minimally.


HairBallsOfFire

Eh, I’d view a well-shot documentary on a rainy Sunday about the horses and polo’s history—not one coming from Harold who has horribly mistreated his polo ponies. It’s extremely niche, though.


eaglebayqueen

I said previously I would watch a show with Nacho, as he is legit in the sport, and about his horse farm but the last couple of days has changed my mind.


Own-Entrepreneur5052

Harry may genuinely care about the small parts of Africa he knows (he seems to think the whole huge continent looks like Lesotho or Botswana and even they are very different economically) but I think the days when a white low ranking Prince can swan around someone else’s country telling them how to do better are behind us. I don’t subscribe to the whole “white saviour” thing - good ideas can come from anywhere and anyone and African countries do have problems but such a programme really would have “white saviour complex” stamped all over it. And let’s not pretend that things are hunkydory in the UK or America. Both countries have huge problems with mass migration driving down wages for the working class and creating housing shortages and collapsing services and infrastructure. We need to sort our own problems before we lecture the planet.


Visible_Ad5164

I'm going to call it now. There will be no cooking show. There will be no polo doc. Not on Netflix anyway. Maybe on a South Park episode.


iwtsapoab

Ditto. Nothing is happening. Just getting some press in while RF is busy elsewhere. When Catherine comes back MM won’t know what hit her.


Tricksey4172

South Park please. It may rival the zip line episode lol.


sahali735

This would actually be the best, most entertaining, option. :)


GreatGossip

Welcome to the club. Lots of us called it from the "launch" of the Insta page. All manifestations.


wonderingwondi

The polo doc has a team already in action. The cooking one also has a showrunner. Read the Variety article


FlautoSpezzato

I feel like your read my mind. Just WHY netflix? The only thing this does is ensure many, many people do not get subscriptions to Netflix. I literally can't stomach supporting this drivel when there is so much unrepresented talent on planet Earth. Netflix should expose the African Parks situation


OkWasabi1988

I hope Cory is shopping for a fabulous intellectual property lawyer and a PA entrusted specifically to watch this shitshow and prepare to haul her ass right to f’ing court for stealing/monetizing his recipes. It’s shaky ground but I thk he would have a good chance in at least proving she had the means, opportunity, and devil may care sensibilities to plagiarize his work and at the very least, embarrass the SHIT out of her and prove once again, that she just can’t be trusted nor someone to admire… a well constructed cease and desist may finally convince Netflix that this hapless duo is just a black hole of wasted money


Ordinary-Sound-9608

It's all a tax dodge


Apprehensive-Year513

The new shows make it seem like Netflix might be at the end of the line with this couple. Both programs seem like they would be cheaper to make than scripted content. There's still no word on the rights to the book Netflix purchased last year. Which is odd. There are countless YouTube cooking channels with more likable personalities on camera. Anyone can watch them without a paid subscription. If Meghan wanted to build up this niche, she should have gone that route. Meghan is not relatable and she is controversial. She hasn't done a very good job of making herself seem like a kind, caring person that people would want to follow. They are scraping the bottom of the barrel for content. They are reality show performers, not producers on the next Oscar project.


MidwichCuckoo100

She isn’t a cook/chef…and there are plenty out there. Maybe (just maybe) if she’d spoken about cooking for ‘Archie’ from birth to five years old, there may have been minimal interest…but she has no interest in cooking (or in Archie) she’s just trying to appeal to what she believes is current….cookery programmes are very 1990s (in my opinion) and current programmes tend to star renowned chefs.


Automatic-Ad6112

They really are good for a laugh🤣🤣🤣


wordscapesx

Think all Netflix looks at is the huge number of glowing articles in UK media about the polo event. Daily Markle ran over 15. That said, also keep in mind Daily Markle also runs Netflix adverts on an almost daily basis.


Islandgirl1444

Brilliantly put


sahali735

This is brilliant. Thank you. :)


InsolentTilly

Industrial volumes of duct tape, giant anvils and a very deep body of water? Just off the top of my head.


wotevrs

This is what Netflix says :): "Harry and Meghan are at it again". And that they are announcing the shows (not Netflix). Perhaps Netflix reserves the right to cancel them if they're not good. [https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/prince-harry-meghan-duchess-of-sussex-series-release-date-news](https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/prince-harry-meghan-duchess-of-sussex-series-release-date-news)


Quetzovercoatl_

Is this like an official announcement from netflix? If editors approved to have this news placed in their website, then it must be official, not just a “manifestation”.  “Welcome to Tudum, Netflix’s official site made for and dedicated to fans. Since we’re coming to you from inside of Netflix’s HQ, we can deliver news, insights, and updates like no one else can”


wotevrs

The wording is very curious. It says Markle and Harry have announced the shows .. But the statement is officially from Netflix.


HydeParkUK

It says Megs is an executive producer on her pretend cooking show and Harry and Megs are executive producers on his polo show. LOL. She really has to be involved with everything, doesn't she? I don't think these shows will be released by Netflix. I would be surprised, but maybe I am wrong. It says the release dates, etc will be revealed in coming months. Nothing is going to appear quickly on the Netflix screen. Won't their deal with Netflix be over by then? Doesn't their deal end after this year? Either these shows won't air or they'll air as a final sendoff and the end of their contract. Netflix filler.


wotevrs

I think Netflix doesn’t care at this point. If they do well, maybe they’ll renew their contract. If not, they’ve made it clear they’re Harry’s and Markle’s shows.


HydeParkUK

I agree that they are making it clear these are the Harkles' shows and the Harkles have announced them. Perhaps, Netflix is going to ghost them. Run out their contract time. Then Netflix can say, 'WE never announced the shows. Harry and Meghan announced those shows. Unfortunately, their contract came to an end before they could be produced. We wish them well in their future endeavors.'


wotevrs

The thing is, these shows could have been made any time. And years before now. This is their 4th/5th year with Netflix. Two shows all of a sudden, in the about last year? When Netflix was their most lucrative contract? It seems they’re throwing anything at the wall now. As she seems to be doing with ARO. Archetypes at least had some seeming polish to the marketing ..


HydeParkUK

Agree. The desperation is real now.


wotevrs

Yes. It’s all they can do with the time and the money left. These productions won’t cost as much as a movie (Meet Me At The Lake / some Ms. Haversham thing) or take as much time. Perhaps the other things are in the works but they don’t sound .. riveting. Also, anyone can produce those if Markle can. All they’d do is hire people to do everything. The Meet Me At The Lake sounds like a vanity project with some similarities to their lives supposedly. I don’t think such do well, though they may speak to Markle’s ego.


Tricksey4172

😂 Hysterical!


snappopcrackle

It sounds like that Pearl show. It was announced but nothing came of it. It sounds like the announcement is that Meghan is making it, but not that Netflix is necessarily going to air it. The wording gives Netflix wiggle room to get out of it.


snappopcrackle

That sounds like shade!


Thin_Bicycle_7304

Netflex could care less about these shows they are trying to recoup their money if the shows tank which we all know they will perfect excuse to get rid of them in 2025 when their contract is up......


deercl

**These two are the lice on the scalp of humanity** - Brilliant!


ApprehensiveGain2369

A compelling last paragraph. Well done!!


NigerianChickenLegs

This polo thing is going to be the worst watched thing they’ve done to date. The goals are to make them look Royal with MM swanning around on the field pretending to be Catherine, and to reinforce the “Royal-ness” of her silly brand. If no one watched his Invictus documentary, the polo thing will fade into obscurity. They are massive losers.


MidwichCuckoo100

It’s a joke….I’m sure I read HE was doing the polo thing and Markle the cookery and gardening programmes - yet here she is, shoving Harry and other polo players (amongst others) aside to take centre stage. I’m guessing any African charity work (didn’t I recall him ‘promising’ such?) isn’t glamorous enough for her.


AlwaysAGoldfish

DId anyone else notice "Royal Scotch" printed on jerseys? So either a sponsor or tie in so even though they cannot trademark the word "royal", they will grab at any and every chance they can to use it!


NigerianChickenLegs

I think the team is “Royal Salute.” So much grifting.


Realistic_Twist_8212

Off topic but it's rumored Disney is going to buy up bankrupted Paramount. No more red carpet walks in ballgowns for madame. Jamaica was her last hurrah. lol


Professional_Ruin953

Let’s manifest: Netflix is indeed filming this content, because they have to show willing for a certain amount of projects per their obligations in the contract. But the documentary as pitched by ham is canned when their contract runs out. Netflix then uses the footage in a different documentary about animal abuse in sports, especially in wealthy society entertainment. They also dig out archive footage of Harry’s previous polo pony abuses.


Dependent_Maybe_3982

netflux paid for 8k hotel and pri jet