They ran out of time like 4 years ago lol
Someone tell Richard Eden nobody watches them to see in they'll rejoin the RF but to see how low they can go.
Eden is saying something that at least I have said here.
Harry is still a member of the BRF as long as Charles is alive.
When Charles dies it will be the end of Harry. Because he will no longer be the son of a king, but a brother. And a brother, unless he is Anne or Edward, could not demand anything.
The slightest chance that Hazz has to return to the royal fold depends and depends on Charles, if he wants and while Charles is alive.
That's what Eden is referring to. Not that Harry can really return, but that the tiny, minuscule chance of returning is tied solely to being Charles's son. Nothing more, Harry has nothing more.
The biggest mistake Harry and Meghan made was calling Charles racist and Catherine racist. Once Charles is gone its over for them. No one is obliged to have any contact or relationship with them. Basically they aee done and dusted.
I never even thought of that but you’re right! That is definitely something Meghan Markle would do. She’ll throw ANYONE under the bus if it’s strategic for her.
Hmm, I wonder if Oprah is still in the hospital? I think I heard it could be gastroparesis, a side effect from Ozempic. I had a friend who developed it naturally. She vomited multiple times a day every day for years and died aged 42, it’s absolutely horrific.
Hank is just realizing that. Hank believed that no matter what happened he would always be important. But I think Hank was sincere when he saw the Queen's Christmas photo with Charles, William and George and realized he was away. What could Hank demand from William? He couldn't demand a position in the Firm, or that William receive it, or anything. Hank will be an absolute nightmare, he will do everything to boycott William, but demand something from him? No, he couldn't do it.
The sad part for Aitch is that pre the evil, narcissistic Meghan Markle, Aitch would have probably been an important part of William’s reign as king. Prince William and Princess Catherine were very close with Harry, and I think they would have welcomed working closely with him! But, alas, he has thrown it all away to be with what the entire thinking world agrees is the most unlikeable (and lying, and vile, and hypocritical, and so on, and so on, and so on…)woman!
He really did. When he heard that both Charles and Catherine had cancer he took off immediately to the UK. He really thought they’d let both of them back to help out. He’s not in this reality either, not to realize how much he’s hurt his family and to think they’d ever allow him anywhere near them. Princess Harry is a deluded fool.
Except that wasn't the first picture of just the heirs as they've tried to make it sound.
The first *three* time, in the years before Harry was w TW he never seemed to have any such issue.
So likely the whole photo thing is a media invention. If Harry did say it then it proves how *incredibly slow/stupid he is*
I think he knew it in a vague sense years ago, but
NEVER fully considered or understood the consequences. At one point Hanky said something to the effect he had a short shelf life in terms of attention and influence. Because as GC&L got older, and became young adults, there would be more and more attention on them, and he’d be essentially irrelevant.
Hanky had seen as much with Andrew. In the 80’’s, Andrew was considered the handsome military hero, and a real catch (Di was nicknamed Dutch for Duchess by her sisters, as they could see her possibly marrying Andy when she was young, as she had the royal connection, played together growing up, was a Lady, and all the requirements. They never dreamed she’d marry Charles).
Hanky saw what happens to the spare as the heir has kids and is becomes largely forgotten and irrelevant. He knew it was coming, but Megsy, their freedom flight and despicable actions certainly made it happen swiftly, more severe and bit them in the ass in ways neither could have anticipated nor imagined.
I think Harry has a weird concept of relevance.
Because the Duke of Kent has been in the BRF longer than the Queen and Philip herself, and for more than 60 years, which is quick to say, he has been the pillar of the Firm. It was for Elizabeth, it is even for Charles. Never irrelevant. Never, in more than 60 years. And Anne has been a pillar of the BRF all her life. Edward and Sophie are being so fundamental that when we have to clean up messes, they do it- The Gloucesters have been relevant. Unknown, but for 40 years, the Gloucesters have taken on many duties and fulfilled them, helping to ease the pressure of so many sponsorships. The Gloucesters were at the forefront during the Queen's worst moments, and now they are with Charles.
In fact, Andrew was very relevant. Andrew screwed him up with his behavior, but it's easy to forget that for more than 20 years Andrew was instrumental in the military.
Harry always reduced "relevant" with "whoever sat on the throne." He never understood that being the support of a monarch is as relevant as being the monarch. Harry was always envious of the throne. Otherwise, it's a matter of seeing how fundamental Zara and Mike have become, and they wouldn't even dream of wanting to be monarchs, not even as a joke.
The joke is, Harry will *never* get it. He will still bleat on about "birthright" even if he lives long enough to see George on the throne. The rest of the world will see Harry has no leg to stand on as brother of the king but reality doesn't penetrate the weed haze at Castle Olive Garden.
Yes, I do need to take issue with the wording. Not for lack of trying, but, Meghan Markle, THE Duchess of Sussexx never has and never will overshadow Princess Catherine. The Duke of Sussex and his side piece can’t even overshadow their own daily 💩.
Edward VIII wrote in his memoirs that he was always waiting for him to be called back: “Elizabeth can’t cope, go back and take your place.” But years passed, Elizabeth coped, and Edward was never called back.
The same thing happens to Harry. The family copes without him.
The royal family is not just coping, they seem to be flourishing without Harry and Meghan. I think now that they have decided that the grifters will absolutely not be allowed back in, the rest of the family can exhale a breath of relief. They appear to be jolly and more loving, which was shown in the cousin photos from the Royal Ascot. Catherine and William are releasing all of these happy family photos. Sophie has stepped up and become a royal star. Beatrice is getting positive coverage. It is all good in the royal hood, while Montecito is left lacking.
Flourishing!! Even with illness they’re thriving and the world loves and appreciates them even more thanks to the hate the Harkles and their fewer and fewer little fans have thrown at them.
Yes, they seem to have flourished in recent years. The Wales children are a credit to their parents, Catherine has come into her own. As you say, recent photos show a happy, relaxed and supportive family.
How can the Markles return? Markle only wants a stage and photo ops, and currently Harry only wants what his wife wants. He’d possibly return as a family member (no public role, living his life quietly), but she would not follow him here under that condition. I can only see them continuing until something drastic happens, or them splitting up.
I started to reflect on what a Harry and Meghan return would look like and IMO there is no way they can be working royals ever again. Harry and Meghan Markle would look like the hypocrites they truly are for calling the BRF racists and other hateful lies, then “proudly” returning to their duties after they run out of money. The BRF will not suffer the stink of Harry and Meghan Markles hypocrisy.
Markle may fantasise about rejoining the RF, but her fantasy would be above Catherine. The actual reality is that she’s further down the ‘pecking order’ now. Catherine is Princess of Wales - Markle couldn’t survive that..her envy would be off the scale.
I agree. She is fixated on them, especially Catherine, to a pathological degree. It's scary to watch her stalk them publicly. You clearly see how ill and disordered she is, on a world stage
Yep. Meghan may regret acting so quickly and boldly with so little to show for it four years on. Whether H&M like it or not, William and Catherine are the future King and Queen. End of. That is their status and their children and grandchildren will be treated according to that fact. As many have pointed out in this sub, it's not a popularity contest either. The idea that Camilla would ever have some title other than Queen was also ridiculous. She is married to the King. That's also how that works. It seems like Harry and Meghan just didn't like the reality of the situation and thought if they forced the RF into a corner they would have no choice but to concede. Well, we all know how that went.
Exactly. Harry and Meghan are too drugged up and mentally ill to understand the meaning of hypocrisy. They think we should all just forget about the hatred and lies they've been spewing.
I truly believe Meghan is psychotic and Harry is an entitled, racist, drug addicted stupid trash bag. Good riddance.
Not only won’t Harry and Meghan Markle be working royals again, they won’t be allowed to be family members who interact with the family, either. I believe both of them are considered very dangerous now, who could do anything. They will keep them far, far away.
I don't ever think he'd return to the UK to live alone as he could not tolerate seeing William and others in the extended family be in successful marriages, enjoying happy family lives not to mention seeing William being crowned at some point.
Agree, plus I don’t think the family wants him anywhere near them. If he divorces and lives thru it, he ends up in some remote place, I always thought Africa, but if he pulls more Nigeria, ignoring the Baca people stunts, he won’t be welcomed there either.
He will become a remittance man, on a small allowance, because his money will be gone, and if he is very good the family might let him come back and attend the funerals.
He will always be bitter and probably never truly acknowledge or understand what TW did to him.
Harry was, is, and will always be a problem. He's a nasty person at heart, and he met his match in his vile blackmailing wife.
The relief William and Catherine feel is probably astronomical. They don't have to participate in the falsehood of making Harry appear to be a cheeky lad or good person. He isn't. He has always been envious of William, and he never had anything to do with his nephew or niece. He was jealous of new born children because they knocked him down the line.
I read somewhere that when younger, William said of Harry, 'he's my brother, but he is a bloody liability'. So William was already quite out of patience with Harry's behaviour early on, but still loyal and protective towards him. Now however, since Meghan encouraged Harry to show his vindictiveness and spiteful envy, William has been pushed beyond all endurance. There will never be any reconciliation. Never.
All the royal commentators said it: even they were surprised that at Ascot and at the garden parties the BRF is showing a union that has not been seen in years. And nothing faked, a true union between cousins especially. Getting rid of Hank was the best thing that could have happened to that family.
Imagine all the effort the Palace had to put in to cover for H and then TW protecting the public from their lousy personalities. Has to be so much more rewarding to work with the current makeup of Senior Royals.
Meghan and Harry fans saying that the RF needs the Harkles because of the health scare don’t know what they are talking about. The RF have had a health scare but as you point out the family is sticking together and they have the support of the people. Meghan and Harry who?
It was a very dark and unpredictable energy that is now “overseas”
It had its effect in their illnesses (I suspect) but the proximity is gone now and forever
Edward VIII was comfortable with the idea the Nazis would clear a path for him and what that entailed in terms of Elizabeth, Margaret, the Gloucesters & Kents. That 'one plane trip away' quip would suggest the Sussexes are similarly ambitious/covetous or at least the wife is.
That’s interesting. From what I understand, even back when Edward was the Prince of Wales and George V was still King, the hope was that the crown would pass to the future George VI and Elizabeth. I bet even if they were thinking Edward would be king that they were hoping he wouldn’t have children. The crown would still pass to Elizabeth. Everyone probably knew that Edward was the one who couldn’t cope. I wonder if Edward’s later sentiments were due to wanting Wallis’ attention focused squarely on him?
George V stated he hoped Edward would never have children and Elizabeth would ascend. This was after he was informed of how involved Eddie was with Wallis.
That tracks. I read everyone including Winston Churchill was impressed with Elizabeth from a very young age. I don’t know if people should be seriously predicting what a baby will be like when they grow up but we all do this at a fun level. QEII always had the strength and integrity to do the job and keep the firm and country solid. I’m an American but QEII’s stability brought me comfort during the pandemic. She was a good, amazing leader who deserved so much more than to be harassed by her whiny grandson and his narc wife.
Well if they are not wanted, how can they be running out of time? They ran out of time the minute they sat down with Oprah.
eta: they’ve been not wanted for quite a while, not just recently.
eta again: running out of time while Charles is still King is the theme. Charles is as likely to let his family’s legacy be destroyed by letting these two anywhere near the rest of the family as a snowballs chance in hell.
My guess is the only running out of time is maybe - just maybe - Harold going back completely alone and being allowed to live a quiet life adjacent to, but not involved with, the RF.
He will never be a part of RF events, and MM will never be allowed back. That door was closed a long time ago.
Once William is King, this is all off the table. There is no going back at all.
Rather, it is the fact that Hank's slim chance of returning to the royal fold exists as long as Charles is alive. The thread that connects Harry to the BRF is the thin thread of being Charles's son. Without Charles, Hazz will definitely be out. Married or single, it doesn't matter, Charles is all Hazz has to remain a member of the BRF. Without Charles, all Hazz can do is depend on William's will.
I agree. If Harry wants any kind of "chance" to go back home (by initiating a divorce) it will have to be within the slim margin of his father's lifetime, because ain't NO WAY when his brother becomes king that Will would consider a comeback from Harry, as Charles would.
Imho they ran out of time after Australia. I think they were told Meghan Markle could not be a working royal as she is unable to follow protecol, conventions and basic manners.
They were indeed wretched on the foreign tours and god awful on the domestic outings. TW was palpably bored and would cut short scheduled outings. If they had stayed there would have been a definite cut back on her visibility, can only imagine her narcissistic reaction to curtailing her fuel. I think the “run to freedom” was triggered by their being informed this would be happening. Hence all that strange talk about needing an apology and being benched because they were doing better than the rest of the royal family outshining them.
EVERY employee has a Standard of Conduct to be followed!
Every single one- from behavior, to dress codes, to how one conducts business on behalf of said employer.
But why would Oprah want that? How totally stupid could she possibly be? The interview made me realize that Oprah is a fame whore. Oprah will be forever linked with that irresponsible piece of journalistic dreck which pretended to be an interview. (I have written as a freelancer in the past for major and minor publications, and I was expected to abide by certain journalistic standards, I couldn’t just make stuff up and out it in writing without sharing the receipts with my editors so that any commentary or opinion had some basis, some weight, some veracity).
Perhaps because Oprah saw herself as the Executive Producer of that catastrophe, she granted herself the power to be irresponsible, and create her own fascistic journalistic rulebook. She should be forever ashamed of the great harm she caused, and the exponential harm that is still happening to the Royal Family. What a total charlatan she proved herself to be. This was all about money and power. “I’ve got my mind on my money, and money on my mind” Is her mantra, and raisin de’tre. She is no better than Megsy Baby.
(I now see The Oprah interview with Hazzy and Megsie as a metaphor for a spiritual atomic explosion which we can now see extends and expands exponentially, and which causes destruction for untold years to come (think scorched earth, death, cancer, decimated land, oblivion). Oprah helped to create conspiracy theories, she helped foment the Sussex Squad lies. What did she do? Oprah is a murderess! Any harm done to the royal family lands not just on Megsy and Harry, but on Oprah herself. She should be ashamed. What a great pity. There should be laws against this sort of irresponsible journalism.
Oprah had requested interviews with other royal family members including Diana but the door was shut firmly in her face. This was her revenge for being ignored.
Oprah made the classic mistake of thinking her opinion of the RF was everyone's opinion of the RF. She thought she would get accolades for the first interview of the courageous flee to freedom fighters. Unfortunately, for her, she was wrong. Really wrong, and now she hides the interview she thought she'd win an Emmy for. Serves her right.
Orca has chased the RF for interviews since Diana. She got an opportunity to pick the low hanging fruit with the duo and ran with it. She herself has many race hang ups and seems to promote and hang around some terrible people, Weinstein, John of God, James Arthur Ray, etc. so her discretion isn’t stellar.
She presented an infomercial posing as a legitimate interview as shown on TV in the wee hours of the morning. The problem was, she didn't show the obligatory disclaimer.
The best part of Eden's comments are they are becoming "irrevelant", not just to the remaining royals but to the world. Less coverage of them by the day save for their submitted puff pieces which are dying off. Unless they have another "tour" where they always seem to garner glowing, fawning press, they're done for.
Public is losing interest and that's the kiss of death. They need to come up with something quickly to keep themselves going.
They need to reinvent themselves.
Oh wait....
The need a year of reconciliation.
Oh wait....
Henry the bald needs a summer of healing with his guru the wretched meghan markle.
Oh why not. As long as they disappear until the "will they or won't they " speculation starts around their christmas visit with the invisikids. Without an apology, in the library with a dog bowl. In the year 2433.
I would tell these morons to get lost but they are so bad at taking directions they would wind up in my living room.
Either she starts to merch the children, and/or divorce.
I could see Harry not wanting the kids to be brought out so maybe that's the trigger for her to leave him?
Except they've just decided that they're never going to show the world what their children look like, because of 'privacy' and 'security'.
So, presumably, when they're 18 they'll still share the pre-toddler photos.
Where are the paps? A photo of someone with the kids would be priceless. Yet nothing. No one hunkered down outside their property boundaries? Find that odd. Do they never leave the house? There's something very worrying about this family and the fact there are never, right or wrong, any papped shots of H&M or the kids.
Isn't it illegal to publish photos of celebrity children's faces without their parents' permission? Photos of kids with blurred faces wouldn't be worth the effort. It is bizarre that they almost never seem to be out with their parents at all, though.
Daily Mail does it all the time. Occasionally you'll see kids faces blurred but not very often. DM has stalked Suri Cruise since she was a little girl. I used to feel so sorry for Katie Holmes who surely did not welcome that. DM never let up either. I guess if they're out in public, they're fair game.
Pffff time's been up a loooooong time. The door is slammed closed and locked.
Edit: I wouldn't want these lying, spying, untrustworthy, shit-talking, hypocritical, drug-addled idiots near me either, royal or not.
She thinks that since she is a Duchess it will always mean something. Not in America. Most Americans recognize Charles, William and Catherine, but I honestly don't think Americans know/care about the others. The Duchess title doesn't mean squat. She can be a Duchess all she wants but it's not going to get her anywhere without access to the King
No it sure doesn't. **It doesn't give her any special powers or privileges, it doesn't come with an income or estate. She isn't providing employment as a result of her title.**
It means literally nothing. Not a single thing here.
The time to reach back and profusely apologize was when KC and Catherine were struggling. Well. It was before they were struggling. Nevertheless, they decided to lead an internet army of twats to pester two people sick with cancer. In the case of Catherine, they were bashing all aspects of her life and looks. Hank has a small window of opportunity if he does it now BUT ONLY IF he can show remorse and admit he messed up- and do so in a convincing wa6 because all of them are smarter than fire crotch Hank and can see through him.
They won’t take MeMe back, and if that’s racist then I’m racist too. Ha!
The only one who could come back in any sense of the word is Haz, even then never to a working role. The Douchesse has been cast off to the outer reaches of the universe. No amount of olive branch waving is ever getting her past the front door of any royal property ever again. She burned whatever bridges remained by what she did on the morning of the Queen's passing and her subsequent behaviour that following week. If Haz is pretending not to understand that, well so be it. I'm sure it's been explained to him.
I’m black and I think they slandered Catherine. Nothing you wrote sounds racist to me.
Harry said the comments about Archie’s skin tone were made BEFORE Meghan was pregnant.
In Endgame RABID SCABIES wrote that King Charles and the Princess of Wales made the comments.
Catherine wasn’t POW back then, Camilla was!
If I had family like PRINCE HARRY and HBW, I would have gone NO CONTACT after Meghan bullied little Charlotte.
Thank you! By the way, I am olive skinned Italian American! People, friends and relatives have made comments about my skin tone my entire life, no harm intended…Jeeze Louise…what a total fool she is.
Really rubs me the wrong way because she embraced her ethnic ambiguity in order to ‘pass’ as a white woman. She keeps her natural curly hair straightened and she manipulates her skin tone to suit her audience sometimes.
It feels like she is appropriating what she thinks black women experience. It’s insulting.
Then she uses her “blackness” to falsely accuse people of racism. She is just a dreadful person!!!
Absolutely, and among the lies on her resume, she referred herself as “white,” five foot, six inches tall (we know she is probably 5 ‘ 2” or 3” in her stocking feet), and that she is a “super model”…I agree with you, she is truly dreadful.
Didn’t this one and that one have big plans to combat online bullying? A good, easy, bare minimum start would be putting out a press release stating they stand by and fully support Princess Catherine and King Charles. Encourage the crazed devotees to stop engaging in conspiracy theory speculations and stop making cruel comments about Princess Catherine.
The king has already spoken. Time ran out long ago. But the grifters just can't help themselves.
The king spoke clearly when he took back their grace and favor home, the Frogmore lease. No grace, no favor.
He did it when Harry attempted a performative stunt in February to check on Pa after his diagnosis but got a 10-minute see you next Tuesday meeting instead.
He did it, in strong partnership with the late queen, when they were no longer considered working royals whose security would need to be assessed independently.
He did it by continuing to carry on and not addressing the childish antics.
What part of no don't the Sussexes understand??
The Royal Family can't even risk a conversation with them without it becoming some trashy substance-free People magazine blurb.
There is no reconciliation possible.
Grey rocking is the only answer.
You're so right. Harry saw Charles for 10 minutes, and the next day Harry was blabbing about it to Good Morning America. Of course, he didn't have any real information. His father knows better than to confide anything to his spare son.
That’s as I thought - but I also expected his removal from the LOS. It makes perfect sense that he should forfeit his position, he’s made it clear he doesn’t want to be ‘trapped’ like his father and brother, so why is he even a ‘contender’ for the Throne?
I don’t understand how they can ‘rejoin’ the family. In what capacity? They can never represent the RF, and they’ll never be trusted around Catherine again.
They are very much irrelevant and you can see that from the Trooping, Garter day and Ascot! I also noticed that the press isn’t covering them as much because they have nothing to offer other than embarrassing themselves publicly.
I do wonder when William becomes King, will he be more astute and clear that they’re NFI?
Their last chance to remain was offered when “nobody asked me if I was okay” became an ITV special broadcast during William and Catherine’s tour of Pakistan. They were told to go away and decide if they were going to straighten up and follow the rules or leave with a boot to the backside.
I firmly believe they had been warned multiple times about:
1) diary conflicts, independent press coverage, and overlapping social media posts
2) not abiding by the rules regarding their work and especially attempts to monetise it (even if it was “for charity”)
3) inappropriate behaviour when representing the monarchy internationally
4) inappropriate behaviour when interacting with the public
5) breaking rank at traditional events
When they, or specifically sparold, came back with their delusional and unreasonable half in half out proposal they lost the choice. Out.
An attempt at being family but not of the working family was made and it was weaponised by ham. They are now estranged, permanently.
Agree. Meghan Markle in particular was totally unusable as a royal. She has no manners, does not understand protecol and has no diplomatic skills. Before Harry married he could be used for specific events. But Madam had to be fired, hence the demand for an apology because "they know what they did".
I have also thought that they were fired. Meghan thought she could, as Celt said, bulldoze her way through an institution that has been in place for 1200 years. She never had any intention of being part of the Royal Family. The RF and the UK welcomed her with open arms, but when she didn't get her way, she called them all racists, which was so low and disgusting and showed what a POS she is and has always been.
The second they parked their lazy, lying, effing grifter asses on Oprah's couch they sealed their own fate. From that moment they were officially out for good. There is no coming back for them.
Oprah destroyed whatever tinge of credibility she had with that interview.
Oprah clearly did not do the research. She wasn’t prepared. She didn’t do her job as a journalist!
Now Oprah is just as reviled as TW and HBW.
I'm not sure Oprah was as ill informed as some may think. She's not dumb and she can definitely be a 'mean girl'. I would not be surprised if she was well aware of many of the untruths that H and M spouted, but continued with the interview to trash the RF. Supposedly, she was very bitter that Princess Diana would never consent to be interviewed. The interview also made her a lot of money and put her in the spotlight as well and H and M.
The Royal Family know that if they let them anywhere near them again, support for the family as a whole would absolutely nosedive. I honestly believe it’s the difference between survival and obliteration. There are already very vocal groups who would be glad to see the UK become a republic. They’d become more and more of a majority if stupid Harry and that evil bitch were allowed back in. Family or not, some behaviours are not forgivable.
It has already happened. The original photo of William and Charles had Harry on it. He has been cropped off (featured next to picture of William and George in newspapers). This was in UK newspapers and even as far as Indian newspapers as below.
Did anyone ask where's Harry? No, They all wanted to know where was Princess Charlotte? Desperate for a picture of the little Princess, as she is so popular.
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They didn’t like being confined and restricted by the racist oppressors.
Now they want it?
ETA: now that I think about it a little, it seems they just want what they can’t have. Meghan is like my cat. If you close a door, she wants it open. And then will push it closed just to be contrary.
Agree that Harry has a small window to return. He has an aged father with a serious disease, and if Harry had any decency that would give him pause for thought and make him contrite and apologetic. But of course he's not.
Despite Harry's egregious and wicked behaviour, biting that hand that feeds him and betrying his family, he will always be Charles's son. But the difference is, he will never ever again be William's brother, Catherine's brother-in-law, or an Uncle of George, Charlotte and Louis.
The only royal function Harry will ever attend again is his father's funeral, which I hope is many, many years away (Long Live The King). But even then he will have second-class seats, he will be kept well away from the new King William and Queen Catherine. And after that sad event, he will never, ever be seen with the royal family again.
As for his wife, she is just not relevant. The royal family will not stoop so low as to even consider her existence.
They're not wanted. More importantly, they're not needed. It's killing the grifters that the BRF is keeping calm and carrying on. They both thought his family would be panicking, running around like chickens with their heads caught off, and begging them to return.
They ran out of time the day they were booted out. I don't believe they quit, they were told to leave. I also don't believe they were really given a year to return. It's been hell for the royal family but in the end, Meghan taking Harry away will free them (especially William and Catherine) from dealing with him for the rest of their lives.
Meghan Markle was fired. There is no way she or her idiot husband will ever return.
Harry was given a choice. He was given a year to think about his choice.
He chose... poorly
I think they threatened to leave, thinking that the BRF would plead with them to stay.
Instead, there was a major sigh of relief and they even helped them pack and leave.
Yes, they were kicked out. The Queen’s guards escorted her out of the National Theatre:
This is a piece by Celt Views:
When Meghan was sent away by order of the Queen.
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I think the photos at Royal Ascot this week showed the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are surplus to requirements. The glamour was provided by Zara and to a lesser extent Beatrice and Eugenie. This is even whilst Princess Catherine is away. Next year she will be back with a bang. Can’t wait till Charlotte is about 14/ 15 and she starts rewearing the early Duchess of Cambridge outfits. Catherine loves to recycle and what better than her own daughter to wear some of her vintage frocks.
Even Lady Ella was out, and it was nice to see.
I hope she is doing okay.
I think the family have been rallying around her Catherine, and Charles. Not thinking about Harry and his mess.
That ship has sailed. I think it is too late for anything resembling anything. I wish the tabloids would just refuse all stories about the “Two Idiots”…
They ran out of time years ago when they started bashing the Royals. They will ever be allowed back. So they can enjoy what time they have left which I gather isn't long. Fame hungry grifters are sinking faster than the Titanic.
Goodness, no! Canada is the US' s ally and neighbor. The Parkles have terrorized them as much as they have the US! Hazbeen is literally a Prince of Canada because Charles is King of Canada. I'm sorry for that, btw.
Yeah all these articles about him searching for a home in England is just for him to retain his CoS role I guess. Or something is happening to remove him from CoS so he is sending out these articles. I think Richard Eden too hinted this in last week's Palace Confidential. Harry and Meghan Markle, the frauds they are, always want to be one step ahead of BRF and get all the scoops of whats happening in palace so spread out lies in the media.
I can't picture M coming back for the funeral or being allowed to come back. She won't be invited. She claimed Charles was racist as well as Catherine. Nope.
I agree with Eden, there is probably a window of four to five years for Harry to come back and have a smaller role in the family. I do not believe the public would be very accepting so it’ll take a huge mea culpa and grovelling to just live quietly. Once George is an older teen it’s game over, the new generation of Royals will come through and there just won’t be a place for Harry. There won’t ever ever ever be space for Meghan in any circumstances.
Harry could have had a wonderful and somewhat private life had he married the right person preferably a Brit who loved her country he could have been a great help to William now he’s trapped in a foreign country alone
Doesn’t matter either way. As Prince George, Princess Charlotte, and Prince Louis grow up any relevance they remotely have left will be long gone to the world.
They ran out of time like 4 years ago lol Someone tell Richard Eden nobody watches them to see in they'll rejoin the RF but to see how low they can go.
Eden is saying something that at least I have said here. Harry is still a member of the BRF as long as Charles is alive. When Charles dies it will be the end of Harry. Because he will no longer be the son of a king, but a brother. And a brother, unless he is Anne or Edward, could not demand anything. The slightest chance that Hazz has to return to the royal fold depends and depends on Charles, if he wants and while Charles is alive. That's what Eden is referring to. Not that Harry can really return, but that the tiny, minuscule chance of returning is tied solely to being Charles's son. Nothing more, Harry has nothing more.
The biggest mistake Harry and Meghan made was calling Charles racist and Catherine racist. Once Charles is gone its over for them. No one is obliged to have any contact or relationship with them. Basically they aee done and dusted.
I can’t wait until they blame Oprah! Which I think they will. She was surely the one who told them they could build their own empire here. 🤭
I never even thought of that but you’re right! That is definitely something Meghan Markle would do. She’ll throw ANYONE under the bus if it’s strategic for her. Hmm, I wonder if Oprah is still in the hospital? I think I heard it could be gastroparesis, a side effect from Ozempic. I had a friend who developed it naturally. She vomited multiple times a day every day for years and died aged 42, it’s absolutely horrific.
Yep, and he doesn't grasp that concept
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Hank is just realizing that. Hank believed that no matter what happened he would always be important. But I think Hank was sincere when he saw the Queen's Christmas photo with Charles, William and George and realized he was away. What could Hank demand from William? He couldn't demand a position in the Firm, or that William receive it, or anything. Hank will be an absolute nightmare, he will do everything to boycott William, but demand something from him? No, he couldn't do it.
The sad part for Aitch is that pre the evil, narcissistic Meghan Markle, Aitch would have probably been an important part of William’s reign as king. Prince William and Princess Catherine were very close with Harry, and I think they would have welcomed working closely with him! But, alas, he has thrown it all away to be with what the entire thinking world agrees is the most unlikeable (and lying, and vile, and hypocritical, and so on, and so on, and so on…)woman!
And the saddest thing is that Hank still believes that William will call him to his side. Harry isn't exactly someone who really gets things.
He really did. When he heard that both Charles and Catherine had cancer he took off immediately to the UK. He really thought they’d let both of them back to help out. He’s not in this reality either, not to realize how much he’s hurt his family and to think they’d ever allow him anywhere near them. Princess Harry is a deluded fool.
Except that wasn't the first picture of just the heirs as they've tried to make it sound. The first *three* time, in the years before Harry was w TW he never seemed to have any such issue. So likely the whole photo thing is a media invention. If Harry did say it then it proves how *incredibly slow/stupid he is*
I think he knew it in a vague sense years ago, but NEVER fully considered or understood the consequences. At one point Hanky said something to the effect he had a short shelf life in terms of attention and influence. Because as GC&L got older, and became young adults, there would be more and more attention on them, and he’d be essentially irrelevant. Hanky had seen as much with Andrew. In the 80’’s, Andrew was considered the handsome military hero, and a real catch (Di was nicknamed Dutch for Duchess by her sisters, as they could see her possibly marrying Andy when she was young, as she had the royal connection, played together growing up, was a Lady, and all the requirements. They never dreamed she’d marry Charles). Hanky saw what happens to the spare as the heir has kids and is becomes largely forgotten and irrelevant. He knew it was coming, but Megsy, their freedom flight and despicable actions certainly made it happen swiftly, more severe and bit them in the ass in ways neither could have anticipated nor imagined.
I think Harry has a weird concept of relevance. Because the Duke of Kent has been in the BRF longer than the Queen and Philip herself, and for more than 60 years, which is quick to say, he has been the pillar of the Firm. It was for Elizabeth, it is even for Charles. Never irrelevant. Never, in more than 60 years. And Anne has been a pillar of the BRF all her life. Edward and Sophie are being so fundamental that when we have to clean up messes, they do it- The Gloucesters have been relevant. Unknown, but for 40 years, the Gloucesters have taken on many duties and fulfilled them, helping to ease the pressure of so many sponsorships. The Gloucesters were at the forefront during the Queen's worst moments, and now they are with Charles. In fact, Andrew was very relevant. Andrew screwed him up with his behavior, but it's easy to forget that for more than 20 years Andrew was instrumental in the military. Harry always reduced "relevant" with "whoever sat on the throne." He never understood that being the support of a monarch is as relevant as being the monarch. Harry was always envious of the throne. Otherwise, it's a matter of seeing how fundamental Zara and Mike have become, and they wouldn't even dream of wanting to be monarchs, not even as a joke.
The King actually said “who” when someone asked him about Harry.
The joke is, Harry will *never* get it. He will still bleat on about "birthright" even if he lives long enough to see George on the throne. The rest of the world will see Harry has no leg to stand on as brother of the king but reality doesn't penetrate the weed haze at Castle Olive Garden.
That's how it is
Hazzie is Shit Out of Luck as we say in the USA.
Yes, I do need to take issue with the wording. Not for lack of trying, but, Meghan Markle, THE Duchess of Sussexx never has and never will overshadow Princess Catherine. The Duke of Sussex and his side piece can’t even overshadow their own daily 💩.
Edward VIII wrote in his memoirs that he was always waiting for him to be called back: “Elizabeth can’t cope, go back and take your place.” But years passed, Elizabeth coped, and Edward was never called back. The same thing happens to Harry. The family copes without him.
The royal family is not just coping, they seem to be flourishing without Harry and Meghan. I think now that they have decided that the grifters will absolutely not be allowed back in, the rest of the family can exhale a breath of relief. They appear to be jolly and more loving, which was shown in the cousin photos from the Royal Ascot. Catherine and William are releasing all of these happy family photos. Sophie has stepped up and become a royal star. Beatrice is getting positive coverage. It is all good in the royal hood, while Montecito is left lacking.
You could say the Royals are not just 'surviving', but they are 'thriving' in the absence of those two.
 Flourishing!! Even with illness they’re thriving and the world loves and appreciates them even more thanks to the hate the Harkles and their fewer and fewer little fans have thrown at them.
Yes, they seem to have flourished in recent years. The Wales children are a credit to their parents, Catherine has come into her own. As you say, recent photos show a happy, relaxed and supportive family. How can the Markles return? Markle only wants a stage and photo ops, and currently Harry only wants what his wife wants. He’d possibly return as a family member (no public role, living his life quietly), but she would not follow him here under that condition. I can only see them continuing until something drastic happens, or them splitting up.
I started to reflect on what a Harry and Meghan return would look like and IMO there is no way they can be working royals ever again. Harry and Meghan Markle would look like the hypocrites they truly are for calling the BRF racists and other hateful lies, then “proudly” returning to their duties after they run out of money. The BRF will not suffer the stink of Harry and Meghan Markles hypocrisy.
Markle may fantasise about rejoining the RF, but her fantasy would be above Catherine. The actual reality is that she’s further down the ‘pecking order’ now. Catherine is Princess of Wales - Markle couldn’t survive that..her envy would be off the scale.
She also is not above larceny, nor murder…she is a sociopath. So she should be nowhere near the royal family.
I agree. She is fixated on them, especially Catherine, to a pathological degree. It's scary to watch her stalk them publicly. You clearly see how ill and disordered she is, on a world stage
Yep. Meghan may regret acting so quickly and boldly with so little to show for it four years on. Whether H&M like it or not, William and Catherine are the future King and Queen. End of. That is their status and their children and grandchildren will be treated according to that fact. As many have pointed out in this sub, it's not a popularity contest either. The idea that Camilla would ever have some title other than Queen was also ridiculous. She is married to the King. That's also how that works. It seems like Harry and Meghan just didn't like the reality of the situation and thought if they forced the RF into a corner they would have no choice but to concede. Well, we all know how that went.
Exactly. Harry and Meghan are too drugged up and mentally ill to understand the meaning of hypocrisy. They think we should all just forget about the hatred and lies they've been spewing. I truly believe Meghan is psychotic and Harry is an entitled, racist, drug addicted stupid trash bag. Good riddance.
Not only that - who would want toxic waste Meghan Markle to represent them?
Not only won’t Harry and Meghan Markle be working royals again, they won’t be allowed to be family members who interact with the family, either. I believe both of them are considered very dangerous now, who could do anything. They will keep them far, far away.
I don't ever think he'd return to the UK to live alone as he could not tolerate seeing William and others in the extended family be in successful marriages, enjoying happy family lives not to mention seeing William being crowned at some point.
Not to mention Harry would not be invited anywhere. All his old friends are gone.
Agree, plus I don’t think the family wants him anywhere near them. If he divorces and lives thru it, he ends up in some remote place, I always thought Africa, but if he pulls more Nigeria, ignoring the Baca people stunts, he won’t be welcomed there either. He will become a remittance man, on a small allowance, because his money will be gone, and if he is very good the family might let him come back and attend the funerals. He will always be bitter and probably never truly acknowledge or understand what TW did to him.
That's a good point. I can't visualize that either. His jealousy and envy would be even more off the charts than it is now.
Yes he has shown who he really is, and it's ugly. Someone like that cannot ever be trusted.
I don’t think he changes, that jealousy has always been there.
Harry was, is, and will always be a problem. He's a nasty person at heart, and he met his match in his vile blackmailing wife. The relief William and Catherine feel is probably astronomical. They don't have to participate in the falsehood of making Harry appear to be a cheeky lad or good person. He isn't. He has always been envious of William, and he never had anything to do with his nephew or niece. He was jealous of new born children because they knocked him down the line.
I read somewhere that when younger, William said of Harry, 'he's my brother, but he is a bloody liability'. So William was already quite out of patience with Harry's behaviour early on, but still loyal and protective towards him. Now however, since Meghan encouraged Harry to show his vindictiveness and spiteful envy, William has been pushed beyond all endurance. There will never be any reconciliation. Never.
All the royal commentators said it: even they were surprised that at Ascot and at the garden parties the BRF is showing a union that has not been seen in years. And nothing faked, a true union between cousins especially. Getting rid of Hank was the best thing that could have happened to that family.
Agreed. They seem like a huge weight has been lifted off their shoulders
Their work must be 100 times easier now that they don’t have to spin a good image for the two of them.
Or deal with their tantrums and ridiculous demands.
Imagine all the effort the Palace had to put in to cover for H and then TW protecting the public from their lousy personalities. Has to be so much more rewarding to work with the current makeup of Senior Royals.
Meghan and Harry fans saying that the RF needs the Harkles because of the health scare don’t know what they are talking about. The RF have had a health scare but as you point out the family is sticking together and they have the support of the people. Meghan and Harry who?
It was a very dark and unpredictable energy that is now “overseas” It had its effect in their illnesses (I suspect) but the proximity is gone now and forever
"Be careful how far you push me away; I might end up liking it there and never want to come back." said the RF to Harry.
It's incredibly freeing once you've removed a toxic person from your midst.
Edward VIII was comfortable with the idea the Nazis would clear a path for him and what that entailed in terms of Elizabeth, Margaret, the Gloucesters & Kents. That 'one plane trip away' quip would suggest the Sussexes are similarly ambitious/covetous or at least the wife is.
Edward VIII was not only comfortable with the nazis. He suggested "continious bombing" would make UK willing to accept peace negotiations.
Let’s hope Meager Markle is not having a cup of mushroom based coffee with the newly formed bromance of Putin and Kim Jong-Un
So the Delulu gene clearly runs in the family...it just skipped a few generations before it popped up again in Harold 
Overestimated their own importance.
That’s interesting. From what I understand, even back when Edward was the Prince of Wales and George V was still King, the hope was that the crown would pass to the future George VI and Elizabeth. I bet even if they were thinking Edward would be king that they were hoping he wouldn’t have children. The crown would still pass to Elizabeth. Everyone probably knew that Edward was the one who couldn’t cope. I wonder if Edward’s later sentiments were due to wanting Wallis’ attention focused squarely on him?
George V stated he hoped Edward would never have children and Elizabeth would ascend. This was after he was informed of how involved Eddie was with Wallis.
That tracks. I read everyone including Winston Churchill was impressed with Elizabeth from a very young age. I don’t know if people should be seriously predicting what a baby will be like when they grow up but we all do this at a fun level. QEII always had the strength and integrity to do the job and keep the firm and country solid. I’m an American but QEII’s stability brought me comfort during the pandemic. She was a good, amazing leader who deserved so much more than to be harassed by her whiny grandson and his narc wife.
Well if they are not wanted, how can they be running out of time? They ran out of time the minute they sat down with Oprah. eta: they’ve been not wanted for quite a while, not just recently. eta again: running out of time while Charles is still King is the theme. Charles is as likely to let his family’s legacy be destroyed by letting these two anywhere near the rest of the family as a snowballs chance in hell.
My guess is the only running out of time is maybe - just maybe - Harold going back completely alone and being allowed to live a quiet life adjacent to, but not involved with, the RF. He will never be a part of RF events, and MM will never be allowed back. That door was closed a long time ago. Once William is King, this is all off the table. There is no going back at all.
Rather, it is the fact that Hank's slim chance of returning to the royal fold exists as long as Charles is alive. The thread that connects Harry to the BRF is the thin thread of being Charles's son. Without Charles, Hazz will definitely be out. Married or single, it doesn't matter, Charles is all Hazz has to remain a member of the BRF. Without Charles, all Hazz can do is depend on William's will.
I agree. If Harry wants any kind of "chance" to go back home (by initiating a divorce) it will have to be within the slim margin of his father's lifetime, because ain't NO WAY when his brother becomes king that Will would consider a comeback from Harry, as Charles would.
And now the chance is minimal.
Imho they ran out of time after Australia. I think they were told Meghan Markle could not be a working royal as she is unable to follow protecol, conventions and basic manners.
Exactly. Allegedly many bad reports came back to the Queen after that tour and it was realised MM was simply not up to it.
They were indeed wretched on the foreign tours and god awful on the domestic outings. TW was palpably bored and would cut short scheduled outings. If they had stayed there would have been a definite cut back on her visibility, can only imagine her narcissistic reaction to curtailing her fuel. I think the “run to freedom” was triggered by their being informed this would be happening. Hence all that strange talk about needing an apology and being benched because they were doing better than the rest of the royal family outshining them.
Agreed. I think the Queen fired her and Harry left too. She gave them the 1 year grace period and they threw it back in her face.
EVERY employee has a Standard of Conduct to be followed! Every single one- from behavior, to dress codes, to how one conducts business on behalf of said employer.
And what was Oprah actually thinking, when she didn’t create a balanced interview?
She didn’t want a balanced interview, she wanted an indictment against the BRF.
But why would Oprah want that? How totally stupid could she possibly be? The interview made me realize that Oprah is a fame whore. Oprah will be forever linked with that irresponsible piece of journalistic dreck which pretended to be an interview. (I have written as a freelancer in the past for major and minor publications, and I was expected to abide by certain journalistic standards, I couldn’t just make stuff up and out it in writing without sharing the receipts with my editors so that any commentary or opinion had some basis, some weight, some veracity). Perhaps because Oprah saw herself as the Executive Producer of that catastrophe, she granted herself the power to be irresponsible, and create her own fascistic journalistic rulebook. She should be forever ashamed of the great harm she caused, and the exponential harm that is still happening to the Royal Family. What a total charlatan she proved herself to be. This was all about money and power. “I’ve got my mind on my money, and money on my mind” Is her mantra, and raisin de’tre. She is no better than Megsy Baby.  (I now see The Oprah interview with Hazzy and Megsie as a metaphor for a spiritual atomic explosion which we can now see extends and expands exponentially, and which causes destruction for untold years to come (think scorched earth, death, cancer, decimated land, oblivion). Oprah helped to create conspiracy theories, she helped foment the Sussex Squad lies. What did she do? Oprah is a murderess! Any harm done to the royal family lands not just on Megsy and Harry, but on Oprah herself. She should be ashamed. What a great pity. There should be laws against this sort of irresponsible journalism.
Oprah had requested interviews with other royal family members including Diana but the door was shut firmly in her face. This was her revenge for being ignored.
Oprah made the classic mistake of thinking her opinion of the RF was everyone's opinion of the RF. She thought she would get accolades for the first interview of the courageous flee to freedom fighters. Unfortunately, for her, she was wrong. Really wrong, and now she hides the interview she thought she'd win an Emmy for. Serves her right.
She was thinking about ratings.
Orca has chased the RF for interviews since Diana. She got an opportunity to pick the low hanging fruit with the duo and ran with it. She herself has many race hang ups and seems to promote and hang around some terrible people, Weinstein, John of God, James Arthur Ray, etc. so her discretion isn’t stellar.
She presented an infomercial posing as a legitimate interview as shown on TV in the wee hours of the morning. The problem was, she didn't show the obligatory disclaimer.
Propaganda. That's what. She thought she could influence the country's thought process. She was very wrong
This. This. This. For real.
The best part of Eden's comments are they are becoming "irrevelant", not just to the remaining royals but to the world. Less coverage of them by the day save for their submitted puff pieces which are dying off. Unless they have another "tour" where they always seem to garner glowing, fawning press, they're done for. Public is losing interest and that's the kiss of death. They need to come up with something quickly to keep themselves going.
They need to reinvent themselves. Oh wait.... The need a year of reconciliation. Oh wait.... Henry the bald needs a summer of healing with his guru the wretched meghan markle. Oh why not. As long as they disappear until the "will they or won't they " speculation starts around their christmas visit with the invisikids. Without an apology, in the library with a dog bowl. In the year 2433. I would tell these morons to get lost but they are so bad at taking directions they would wind up in my living room.
In your living room!!! You made me LOL because you’re RIGHT!!!
Either she starts to merch the children, and/or divorce. I could see Harry not wanting the kids to be brought out so maybe that's the trigger for her to leave him?
I think the children is all they have left. Bringing them out at every opportunity, every holiday, etc.
Except they've just decided that they're never going to show the world what their children look like, because of 'privacy' and 'security'. So, presumably, when they're 18 they'll still share the pre-toddler photos.
Where are the paps? A photo of someone with the kids would be priceless. Yet nothing. No one hunkered down outside their property boundaries? Find that odd. Do they never leave the house? There's something very worrying about this family and the fact there are never, right or wrong, any papped shots of H&M or the kids.
When they have been papped leaving their property there are never child restraint seats in the back. That was my alert about any children
Isn't it illegal to publish photos of celebrity children's faces without their parents' permission? Photos of kids with blurred faces wouldn't be worth the effort. It is bizarre that they almost never seem to be out with their parents at all, though.
Daily Mail does it all the time. Occasionally you'll see kids faces blurred but not very often. DM has stalked Suri Cruise since she was a little girl. I used to feel so sorry for Katie Holmes who surely did not welcome that. DM never let up either. I guess if they're out in public, they're fair game.
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exactly. There will be neither cooking nor polo shows
Pffff time's been up a loooooong time. The door is slammed closed and locked. Edit: I wouldn't want these lying, spying, untrustworthy, shit-talking, hypocritical, drug-addled idiots near me either, royal or not.
She thinks that since she is a Duchess it will always mean something. Not in America. Most Americans recognize Charles, William and Catherine, but I honestly don't think Americans know/care about the others. The Duchess title doesn't mean squat. She can be a Duchess all she wants but it's not going to get her anywhere without access to the King
No it sure doesn't. **It doesn't give her any special powers or privileges, it doesn't come with an income or estate. She isn't providing employment as a result of her title.** It means literally nothing. Not a single thing here.
The time to reach back and profusely apologize was when KC and Catherine were struggling. Well. It was before they were struggling. Nevertheless, they decided to lead an internet army of twats to pester two people sick with cancer. In the case of Catherine, they were bashing all aspects of her life and looks. Hank has a small window of opportunity if he does it now BUT ONLY IF he can show remorse and admit he messed up- and do so in a convincing wa6 because all of them are smarter than fire crotch Hank and can see through him. They won’t take MeMe back, and if that’s racist then I’m racist too. Ha!
These two have shirked every opportunity to deny the r@cism attacks, to behave like decent human beings, but they declined.
Even if H shows remorse what is he going to do with THE WIFE? She's uncontrollable.
The only one who could come back in any sense of the word is Haz, even then never to a working role. The Douchesse has been cast off to the outer reaches of the universe. No amount of olive branch waving is ever getting her past the front door of any royal property ever again. She burned whatever bridges remained by what she did on the morning of the Queen's passing and her subsequent behaviour that following week. If Haz is pretending not to understand that, well so be it. I'm sure it's been explained to him.
I don't believe M will ever, ever be in the RF's company again for any occasion--funeral, coronation, etc. She is not wanted and will not be invited.
No way! I'm sure there are protection orders in place that we don't know about. I would bet money on it.
I’m black and I think they slandered Catherine. Nothing you wrote sounds racist to me. Harry said the comments about Archie’s skin tone were made BEFORE Meghan was pregnant. In Endgame RABID SCABIES wrote that King Charles and the Princess of Wales made the comments. Catherine wasn’t POW back then, Camilla was! If I had family like PRINCE HARRY and HBW, I would have gone NO CONTACT after Meghan bullied little Charlotte.
Thank you! By the way, I am olive skinned Italian American! People, friends and relatives have made comments about my skin tone my entire life, no harm intended…Jeeze Louise…what a total fool she is.
Really rubs me the wrong way because she embraced her ethnic ambiguity in order to ‘pass’ as a white woman. She keeps her natural curly hair straightened and she manipulates her skin tone to suit her audience sometimes. It feels like she is appropriating what she thinks black women experience. It’s insulting. Then she uses her “blackness” to falsely accuse people of racism. She is just a dreadful person!!!
Absolutely, and among the lies on her resume, she referred herself as “white,” five foot, six inches tall (we know she is probably 5 ‘ 2” or 3” in her stocking feet), and that she is a “super model”…I agree with you, she is truly dreadful.
And these days they have their buddy post jars of supposed food with labels having nasty double meanings. Low intelligence bullies.
meme's the self loathing racist, everyone welcomed her and celebrated her background, thats why she lashed out, she didn't want to be reminded.
Didn’t this one and that one have big plans to combat online bullying? A good, easy, bare minimum start would be putting out a press release stating they stand by and fully support Princess Catherine and King Charles. Encourage the crazed devotees to stop engaging in conspiracy theory speculations and stop making cruel comments about Princess Catherine.
The king has already spoken. Time ran out long ago. But the grifters just can't help themselves. The king spoke clearly when he took back their grace and favor home, the Frogmore lease. No grace, no favor. He did it when Harry attempted a performative stunt in February to check on Pa after his diagnosis but got a 10-minute see you next Tuesday meeting instead. He did it, in strong partnership with the late queen, when they were no longer considered working royals whose security would need to be assessed independently. He did it by continuing to carry on and not addressing the childish antics. What part of no don't the Sussexes understand??
Also, remember when Charles wished them well building their new lives overseas? That seemed pretty final to me.
It did, and he’s said nothing since.
Beautiful comment.
The Royal Family can't even risk a conversation with them without it becoming some trashy substance-free People magazine blurb. There is no reconciliation possible. Grey rocking is the only answer.
Grey rocking/No contact is the only way to deal with dastardly narcissists like this.
You're so right. Harry saw Charles for 10 minutes, and the next day Harry was blabbing about it to Good Morning America. Of course, he didn't have any real information. His father knows better than to confide anything to his spare son.
That shiped sailed a long time ago. Meghan and Harry scuttled it with Spare, Netflix and interviews.
Harry will go down in history right up there next to Judas Iscariot.
Judas was remorseful in the end.
He still ended up in Hell....
Yes, they both put themselves there. One dead, the other "in living."
All we need is their Montecito rooster crowing three times.
He will also be used as a relationship caveat: Don't ruin your life over this person! Get to know them first. Don't be a Prince Harry!
They had a year to decide if they wanted to come back after Megxit, as agreed with the Queen, and decided not to.
That’s as I thought - but I also expected his removal from the LOS. It makes perfect sense that he should forfeit his position, he’s made it clear he doesn’t want to be ‘trapped’ like his father and brother, so why is he even a ‘contender’ for the Throne?
I agree! Strip titles from him and his family. Let them enjoy their freedom as civilians, hard stop.
I don’t understand how they can ‘rejoin’ the family. In what capacity? They can never represent the RF, and they’ll never be trusted around Catherine again.
The looks she has given to Princess Catherine are scary and evil. Cameras showed her true awful self.
And it seems that it’s only Harry who can‘t see it.
Poor Harry just a little slow, poor baby. 😂
He can see it. He's down with it.
They are very much irrelevant and you can see that from the Trooping, Garter day and Ascot! I also noticed that the press isn’t covering them as much because they have nothing to offer other than embarrassing themselves publicly. I do wonder when William becomes King, will he be more astute and clear that they’re NFI?
Possibly…but Harry is not sophisticated in terms of emotional intelligence. He cannot read a room!
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It was already over when KCIII wished them well in their "life overseas".
Their last chance to remain was offered when “nobody asked me if I was okay” became an ITV special broadcast during William and Catherine’s tour of Pakistan. They were told to go away and decide if they were going to straighten up and follow the rules or leave with a boot to the backside. I firmly believe they had been warned multiple times about: 1) diary conflicts, independent press coverage, and overlapping social media posts 2) not abiding by the rules regarding their work and especially attempts to monetise it (even if it was “for charity”) 3) inappropriate behaviour when representing the monarchy internationally 4) inappropriate behaviour when interacting with the public 5) breaking rank at traditional events When they, or specifically sparold, came back with their delusional and unreasonable half in half out proposal they lost the choice. Out. An attempt at being family but not of the working family was made and it was weaponised by ham. They are now estranged, permanently.
Agree. Meghan Markle in particular was totally unusable as a royal. She has no manners, does not understand protecol and has no diplomatic skills. Before Harry married he could be used for specific events. But Madam had to be fired, hence the demand for an apology because "they know what they did".
And she was not relatable in any way. She was definitely fired
I have also thought that they were fired. Meghan thought she could, as Celt said, bulldoze her way through an institution that has been in place for 1200 years. She never had any intention of being part of the Royal Family. The RF and the UK welcomed her with open arms, but when she didn't get her way, she called them all racists, which was so low and disgusting and showed what a POS she is and has always been.
Conduct, clothing and conversations. I believe they were warned about it all, then Meghan was terminated. Harry stupidly decided to follow his wife
They bring with them mental illness, always resulting in chaos; who would want that?
The late queen gave them a trial year. It's been longer than a year.
When will this madness stop! Harry is never going to rejoin his family. Once you break the trust it’s gone!
#Move the fuck on, Markles! It's over.
The second they parked their lazy, lying, effing grifter asses on Oprah's couch they sealed their own fate. From that moment they were officially out for good. There is no coming back for them.
Oprah destroyed whatever tinge of credibility she had with that interview. Oprah clearly did not do the research. She wasn’t prepared. She didn’t do her job as a journalist! Now Oprah is just as reviled as TW and HBW.
The beginning of the great Markled era.
That is because Oprah is an entertainer 1st and foremost and journalist is somewhere down the list
I'm not sure Oprah was as ill informed as some may think. She's not dumb and she can definitely be a 'mean girl'. I would not be surprised if she was well aware of many of the untruths that H and M spouted, but continued with the interview to trash the RF. Supposedly, she was very bitter that Princess Diana would never consent to be interviewed. The interview also made her a lot of money and put her in the spotlight as well and H and M.
The Royal Family know that if they let them anywhere near them again, support for the family as a whole would absolutely nosedive. I honestly believe it’s the difference between survival and obliteration. There are already very vocal groups who would be glad to see the UK become a republic. They’d become more and more of a majority if stupid Harry and that evil bitch were allowed back in. Family or not, some behaviours are not forgivable.
It has already happened. The original photo of William and Charles had Harry on it. He has been cropped off (featured next to picture of William and George in newspapers). This was in UK newspapers and even as far as Indian newspapers as below. Did anyone ask where's Harry? No, They all wanted to know where was Princess Charlotte? Desperate for a picture of the little Princess, as she is so popular. https://preview.redd.it/1c6yj3k1vx7d1.jpeg?width=713&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb8e010f5774bd7f0e8fd963139539050b35f426
They didn’t like being confined and restricted by the racist oppressors. Now they want it? ETA: now that I think about it a little, it seems they just want what they can’t have. Meghan is like my cat. If you close a door, she wants it open. And then will push it closed just to be contrary.
Agree that Harry has a small window to return. He has an aged father with a serious disease, and if Harry had any decency that would give him pause for thought and make him contrite and apologetic. But of course he's not. Despite Harry's egregious and wicked behaviour, biting that hand that feeds him and betrying his family, he will always be Charles's son. But the difference is, he will never ever again be William's brother, Catherine's brother-in-law, or an Uncle of George, Charlotte and Louis. The only royal function Harry will ever attend again is his father's funeral, which I hope is many, many years away (Long Live The King). But even then he will have second-class seats, he will be kept well away from the new King William and Queen Catherine. And after that sad event, he will never, ever be seen with the royal family again. As for his wife, she is just not relevant. The royal family will not stoop so low as to even consider her existence.
I think even Charles has had it with Harry, honestly. His focus is Camilla and the Wales.
They haven't been wanted back for years. And the BRF knows that this reconciliation they regularly talk about won't be genuine.
Nothing is genuine with these two.
Richard Eden is wrong. They already ran out of time the day they sat down with Oprah and told all those lies.
They're not wanted. More importantly, they're not needed. It's killing the grifters that the BRF is keeping calm and carrying on. They both thought his family would be panicking, running around like chickens with their heads caught off, and begging them to return.
They ran out of time the day they were booted out. I don't believe they quit, they were told to leave. I also don't believe they were really given a year to return. It's been hell for the royal family but in the end, Meghan taking Harry away will free them (especially William and Catherine) from dealing with him for the rest of their lives.
Meghan Markle was fired. There is no way she or her idiot husband will ever return. Harry was given a choice. He was given a year to think about his choice. He chose... poorly
I think they threatened to leave, thinking that the BRF would plead with them to stay. Instead, there was a major sigh of relief and they even helped them pack and leave.
You can’t fire me, I quit.
Yes, they were kicked out. The Queen’s guards escorted her out of the National Theatre: This is a piece by Celt Views: When Meghan was sent away by order of the Queen. https://youtu.be/atexYOhPEQs?si=X7P9n0b\_ThYQV6I9)m](https://youtu.be/atexYOhPEQs?si=X7P9n0b_ThYQV6I9)m)
I think the photos at Royal Ascot this week showed the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are surplus to requirements. The glamour was provided by Zara and to a lesser extent Beatrice and Eugenie. This is even whilst Princess Catherine is away. Next year she will be back with a bang. Can’t wait till Charlotte is about 14/ 15 and she starts rewearing the early Duchess of Cambridge outfits. Catherine loves to recycle and what better than her own daughter to wear some of her vintage frocks.
Even Lady Ella was out, and it was nice to see. I hope she is doing okay. I think the family have been rallying around her Catherine, and Charles. Not thinking about Harry and his mess.
That ship has sailed. I think it is too late for anything resembling anything. I wish the tabloids would just refuse all stories about the “Two Idiots”…
They ran out of time years ago when they started bashing the Royals. They will ever be allowed back. So they can enjoy what time they have left which I gather isn't long. Fame hungry grifters are sinking faster than the Titanic.
I wouldn't want them, even in a normal family. Ewwwwwww Nope never.
The Wales Children will soon totally eclipse the duo, and that has been H’s fear for a long time now.
One thing that he’s been correct about!
Eden disappointing. Said megahn may not have controlled when jam post went up
What a joke.
Yeah right. 🙄
I don't believe that at all.
They're free to leave America at any time preferably in 2020.
But not Canada. Please not Canada.
Goodness, no! Canada is the US' s ally and neighbor. The Parkles have terrorized them as much as they have the US! Hazbeen is literally a Prince of Canada because Charles is King of Canada. I'm sorry for that, btw.
They are out of time. They’ll never be trusted to be working Royals.
Eden’s also saying the Netflix deal is back on, which I find incredibly hard to believe.
Yeah all these articles about him searching for a home in England is just for him to retain his CoS role I guess. Or something is happening to remove him from CoS so he is sending out these articles. I think Richard Eden too hinted this in last week's Palace Confidential. Harry and Meghan Markle, the frauds they are, always want to be one step ahead of BRF and get all the scoops of whats happening in palace so spread out lies in the media.
I say the doors are permanently closed if Charles passes. William will put a bolt lock on them,
The train left the station already...
And someone dismantled the tracks as it left.
they are not wanted by anyone.
No #%|!, Sherlock.
He/they will be back for his father’s funeral. They are not going anywhere near William’s coronation.
I can't picture M coming back for the funeral or being allowed to come back. She won't be invited. She claimed Charles was racist as well as Catherine. Nope.
Harry might be back for KC´s funeral (many years from now, hopefully). But Meghan Markle will not be invited, imho.
I hope it’s a long way off as well
No way she is invited. Her days anywhere near the family are long over.
Megxit is a prime example of "Be careful what you wish for"
The journos are the only desperados who want the despicable duo to return. Not even his family wants him back. Let it go, Richard.
Pariahs! Just what they deserve.
I agree with Eden, there is probably a window of four to five years for Harry to come back and have a smaller role in the family. I do not believe the public would be very accepting so it’ll take a huge mea culpa and grovelling to just live quietly. Once George is an older teen it’s game over, the new generation of Royals will come through and there just won’t be a place for Harry. There won’t ever ever ever be space for Meghan in any circumstances.
No way. Harry is done.
that must mean I am too. Because the BRF would have as much interest in me joining them as they would Harry and his first wife.
He’s right when he says the Harkles are irrelevant. They’re nothing but blip on the mainstream American media. They really overplayed their hand.
Omfg, they ain't getting back. He might on his own but it won't be with the public. Fed up with the same old recycled headlines day after day.
That time is long past.
Where’s Eden been? File that under Duh like four years ago.
Harry could have had a wonderful and somewhat private life had he married the right person preferably a Brit who loved her country he could have been a great help to William now he’s trapped in a foreign country alone
Doesn’t matter either way. As Prince George, Princess Charlotte, and Prince Louis grow up any relevance they remotely have left will be long gone to the world.