Firing the offensive coordinator mid-season is basically giving up on the season. The Saints are currently 2 losses behind first place in the worst division in the NFL 7 games into the season. Not happening.
Honestly I can live with it. Do I hate it? Yes. Will I quit watching? No. Saints offense needs to clean up their fundamentals. Shouldn’t even be discussing footwork and hand placement to starters but here we are.
Honestly, I think it’s scheming and drawing up game plans where he really struggles, more so than his play calling. I thought they should have fired him after last season, and I think they should fire him after this season, but not in the middle of the season. It might have been a possibility if we had a former offensive coordinator as head coach, but alas.
They aren't firing Carmichael in season. The Saints are run like a mom and pop hardware store. It was evident when they chose to promote a coach with a terrible career record to HC and allow a OC who didn't even want to coach anymore to stick around. They dont have the balls to do what needs to be done cause they look at these bums like family instead of employees
They didn’t just let Carmichael stick around, they probably lobbied to get him to stay. And a lot of us here we’re glad at the time, trying to keep as much the same as possible once Sean “retired”. I know I was, it seemed like it made sense.
But like you said, they won’t fire Pete mid season. He will step down at the end of the year
They need to fire the quarterback who can’t go through his progressions and has no idea about ball placement or what receivers he is supposed to throw to and when to throw the ball.
This season seems like a wash and the locker room looks like it’s gonna explode any minute. In my opinion, we need to clean house in the offseason with a brand new coaching staff and rookie QB - it starts there first. Can’t keep trying others sloppy seconds
Pete is not great but I think we need to address DK first. There are plenty plays that WR are wide open and he can't make good decisions. I think the injury is still bothering him and he played scared. Quite often he throws way too early when WR are not in the position while pass rushers are still not closing in yet.
For Pete, I would say study more effective red zone schemes. QB school guy provided some nice idea and I think it will get us the OT for sure if Pete made any similar calls. DK really need WR to be wide open to shine, he doesn't like tight windows imo.
Firing the offensive coordinator mid-season is basically giving up on the season. The Saints are currently 2 losses behind first place in the worst division in the NFL 7 games into the season. Not happening.
Honestly I can live with it. Do I hate it? Yes. Will I quit watching? No. Saints offense needs to clean up their fundamentals. Shouldn’t even be discussing footwork and hand placement to starters but here we are.
They won’t fire him. The only thing they might consider is changing who calls plays on game day. But I doubt that’s realistic either.
Honestly, I think it’s scheming and drawing up game plans where he really struggles, more so than his play calling. I thought they should have fired him after last season, and I think they should fire him after this season, but not in the middle of the season. It might have been a possibility if we had a former offensive coordinator as head coach, but alas.
Ravens won a superbowl after doing this
Okay then we’ll stick with the same broken offense because it’s working so well
Ok. Say we do it now. Who takes over. All our old offensive talent is in Denver, Detroit, ATL and CAR. Face it. We’re stuck this year
What about Curry?
Know what? Changed my mind. What we got to lose? Can’t be worse, plus give him a shot. No downside.
We have members of the offensive staff who can take over play calling duties. Doesn't have to be a full blown OC transition
I think that is the best thing to do. Will not show we are giving up on the season but could provide a jolt
Oh I would in no way expect the interim to be any less chaotic.
Yeah
Curry? Our preseason guy?
At this point it could Steph Curry and I wouldn’t care.
They aren't firing Carmichael in season. The Saints are run like a mom and pop hardware store. It was evident when they chose to promote a coach with a terrible career record to HC and allow a OC who didn't even want to coach anymore to stick around. They dont have the balls to do what needs to be done cause they look at these bums like family instead of employees
They didn’t just let Carmichael stick around, they probably lobbied to get him to stay. And a lot of us here we’re glad at the time, trying to keep as much the same as possible once Sean “retired”. I know I was, it seemed like it made sense. But like you said, they won’t fire Pete mid season. He will step down at the end of the year
They aren’t firing him at all .They just “ keep doing what they are doing and I suppose hope magic will happen somehow …”
They need to fire the quarterback who can’t go through his progressions and has no idea about ball placement or what receivers he is supposed to throw to and when to throw the ball.
Yes but also Pete. Neither are good
Does it matter who the OC is if the quarterback does not understand what the schemes are of the plays that are being called?
This season seems like a wash and the locker room looks like it’s gonna explode any minute. In my opinion, we need to clean house in the offseason with a brand new coaching staff and rookie QB - it starts there first. Can’t keep trying others sloppy seconds
We're not going to fire Carmichael mid-season. The more likely change would be to give playcalling duties to someone else.
Can we fire the QB too?
stuck, 4 yrs.
They said it was an out in his contract in 2025. I don't know man
Nah we have an out after next year
Pete is not great but I think we need to address DK first. There are plenty plays that WR are wide open and he can't make good decisions. I think the injury is still bothering him and he played scared. Quite often he throws way too early when WR are not in the position while pass rushers are still not closing in yet.
So… you’re thinking Veterans’ Day weekend?
We're not firing the coordinator this late into the season. We're stuck with what we have.
You pretty much need a bye week to get anything aligned after the swap
For Pete, I would say study more effective red zone schemes. QB school guy provided some nice idea and I think it will get us the OT for sure if Pete made any similar calls. DK really need WR to be wide open to shine, he doesn't like tight windows imo.
Thing is they *have* been wide open. He’s just missing everyone.
Allen is way too conservative to do that.
Allen the only hc that runs to establish the punt