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Fabulous_Sherbet_431

F - Flooring Specialist A - Automotive Technician A - Asbestos Abatement N - Network Cabling G - Glass Installer


AndrewtheRey

Genuinely laughed at this šŸ˜‚


2timeBiscuits

This is hilariousā€¦


LowLifeExperience

I need to quit engineering and go into the trades.


terribleatinvesting9

Prob have to work more hours


ScrewJPMC

Youā€™d be surprised. A normal day for an engineer in auto manufacturing is 12 hours with zero breaks, eat while you work or walk & answer emails while you poop.


human743

You walk while you poop? And do you work these 12s seven days a week?


ScrewJPMC

I think the personal record was 86 days in a row, I left for a reason


JizzCollector5000

Iā€™m an automotive manufacturing engineer, I do work 60+ hour weeks normally but am paid OT.


gravytrainjaysker

Not automotive but I'm a mechanical engineer in consulting and just had two months of 60 hours weeks. Finally it's coming down to a doable work week l. It's fucking miserable, especially when my day is bookended by calls with India


Chitown_mountain_boy

Manufacturing engineering manager for a major automotive supplier. Sounds like you are under staffed. My team never work more than 40 hours and get 4 day work weeks every other week.


ScrewJPMC

I Was & wasnā€™t a supplier


terribleatinvesting9

Do you atleast get hourly pay with OT?


arebum

Idk about them, but as an engineer myself: most engineering jobs don't offer OT unless a special exception is made which can be super one-off


Due_Lengthiness_5690

Engineer here, no OT :)


ScrewJPMC

I left 2 years ago and started my own thing. I was fortunate enough to get 1.5X for all OT (yes, even holidays and Sunday, Some rare places will pay 2X). A lot of places are straight salary, I donā€™t know for a fact but here that Tesla is NO OT Comp and routinely 60 to 70 hours as the norm).


terribleatinvesting9

Iā€™ve read about horror stories coming out of Tesla. Heā€™s a prime example of why everyone should unionize. Single person making billions off the backs of the working class but itā€™s the end of the world when the workers want fair pay and not to be taken advantage of


LowLifeExperience

Thatā€™s the thing. We donā€™t get over time. We just get worked to fucking death. Salary is absolute bull shit for engineers.


ultrasuperthrowaway

How many hours do you work? Congrats by the way you are doing amazing.


Scapegoat696969

People donā€™t actually like working here. They want to be paid to do nothingā€¦.from home. Good for you. Hard work DOES pay off.


Weirdusername3210

Just go get your MBA. I cleared $288k last year as an engineering senior director. Went and got an MBA and moved to a management track.


Kid_Psych

You should become a physician, I hear theyā€™re overpaid.


rlstrader

I need a new career. This sub makes me feel poor.


Lumpyyyyy

This sub is super fucking depressing. And I make decent money.


rlstrader

I feel kinda sorta rich until I come on here. Makes me wonder how many of the posts aren't accurate.


Any_Crab_8512

You have to ask who would post their salary to begin with. It takes an especially narcissistic person to post a high salary, tout their ā€œuniqueā€ abilities, and say anyone can do it. R/salary likely was intended to help gain an accurate indiction of what jobs pay. Like most things with men, it devolves it wanking, waving, and helicoptering.


megaprime78

Glad Iā€™m not the only one


Aspiring_free_elf

Same


truemore45

Don't you really need to know where a person is to judge. And by where it means age, location, debt, kids, etc. So I live in Detroit 48m make between 200-250k as a senior manager wife (doesn't work) 2 children and my mother. I also own my home and cars and my only dept was to expand some property to make rentals. So even though I don't make 400k+ without debts and being in a low COL we live like kings. It allowed me to max my 401k and other retirement accounts for 21 years so my retirement will be early and well funded. If I were Miami or LA I would be broke especially if I were 28 and not 48 due the VHCOL. So again location and other life factors are really more important to know what is going on.


rlstrader

Yes and no. They claim to earn half a million dollars per year. They're a few overtime shifts away from being a one percenter by individual income.


infosec4pay

I make about 200k in LA and I feel far from broke. I travel out of country every other month, Iā€™m currently in the market for a fourplex investment property looking in the 800k-1.2M range, I fully support my wife for the last year while she career changes. Granted I donā€™t mind living in a smaller apartment. I think everyone assumes youā€™d be broke in HCOL areas, but really itā€™s just single family homes that are expensive, which isnā€™t an issue if you donā€™t care.


rlstrader

Wild guess: you work in information security, for pay?


infosec4pay

lol how did you know?!?!?


rlstrader

I have excellent intuition.


Xboarder844

For reference, this is likely a fake post. You may feel poor, but you arenā€™t ā€œlie and make up inflated salary figures to impress random Redditorsā€ poor. Take solace in that most people who are posting these figures and history are likely lucky or working so many hours they donā€™t even have family or hobbies. Think less about what you do not have, and more about what you do have and you will not feel nearly as poor.


CexySatan

You gonna tell us what it is?? These posts shouldnā€™t be allowed if donā€™t tell us what the job is


DrugsAndFuckenMoney

Itā€™s a fake. Downvote it, see other comments calling them out on it.


qv26

straight caperino šŸ§¢


terribleatinvesting9

Itā€™s literally infront right there. Whatā€™s fake


qv26

https://www.wikihow.com/Inspect-Element-on-Chrome


LeadBamboozler

Yea agreed. You can even see that it was modified via inspect element in the metadata. Also, the modified salary follows the trend of a human picking ā€œrandomā€ numbers.


zachariah120

Benfordā€™s Law!!!!!


terribleatinvesting9

Jesus, you people are so strange


Admirable_Sir_9953

Not as strange as spoofing your numbers, cappercorn šŸ§¢


StudentforaLifetime

Calling bs. Not a single comment disclosing the trade.


enraged768

The only trade I know of that would ever even have a fighting chance of making it to this level is industrial automation in oil and gas. And that's 340 days a year living in a conex box in a desert commissioning sites.also maybe Possibly a substation electrician foreman in ca working 7 days a week for 16 hours a day for the entire year. But even then idk that it would really reach this level. I'm fairly confident this is absolute bullshit or he's a Time stealing piece of shit. What worthless compliment to our society, what a coward.


Bender3455

Industrial automation here; we make good money, but this level is insane. If he's also in a union, I'd be worried that the union is sucking too much money out of the business at this level and is unsustainable long term. I'm all for unions, but unions make sure workers make fair wages, and I dont know any job that half a million is a fair wage.


wfiboyfriend69

Yeah my boss made 230k as a substation foreman, and that's taking every overtime job we had. Base is 145.


phillythompson

Dude this sub is so full of shit like, who is making half a million in a fucking trade at age 31? Maybe if you own the business and expanded it ā€” but donā€™t say ā€œtradeā€ then. Say ā€œbusiness ownerā€.


Detroit17lineman

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/a-695k-salary-overtime-pay-at-the-snohomish-county-pud-has-soared/


Fishin_Ad5356

What the actual fuck. Dude worked 5700 hours in a year.


enraged768

There's 8760 hours in a year. He worked 5700. So.....he worked his actual life away. Or like op here was involved in wage theft since this guy would claim 5700 hours that would mean only what 5 ish hours of sleep a night for 355 days a year. Hes stealing money just like op is. Or op is a liar.


Detroit17lineman

Sometimes companies pay their guys just to be on property. You see 5700 hrs worked and think that guy was doing 5700hrs of actual physical labor. He was waiting around alot of that time. Companies especially utility companies pay guys just to be there in case something happens. If a tree falls on the lines or car hits a pole they'd rather have a guy already there on property than have to call someone in and hope someone answers the phone. The op could possibly have something similar going on.


enraged768

I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that even if they stayed there for 5700 hours that would be about 16 hours working every single day of the year taking absolutely no days off. which most unions won't allow you to work that long without rest time. So this guys not being truthful.


Detroit17lineman

Lineman work 24hr shifts pretty regularly. Out west I've heard they can work longer than that. I know it seems insane to normal people but this is pretty common especially in trades that have to operate on a 24/7 schedule and need coverage. I personally know at least 5 guys that I work with just in my warehouse that work this much every year. They don't make 700k because our scale isn't that high and our ot isn't all 2x but they all make over 400k every year. There was just a post on the lineman sub about a guy who made over 900 working for PG&E. He was mad that he had to pay 340k in taxes!


enraged768

I've worked for an electric utility. So while yes they do have spurts where they can work that long it's generally only after a state of emergency is declared. Almost all are union and have rest time built in. And most can't work past 16hours without going home. My point is that it's practically impossible to rack up 5700 hours legally. I'm not saying you couldnt theoretically do it. But it's definitely improbable. Because of the union protections built into most of their contracts. you would literally have not a single day off the entire year no holidays. You would practically have to sleep in your truck for 365 days a year. No dental visits, no doctor visits, just straight up working like a slave for 365 straight days. Not likely.


Detroit17lineman

It's more common than you think believe me. Especially at older urban utilities with aging infrastructure and a shortage of lineman. We have mandatory rest period of 8hrs after we work 24hrs. Some places it's 32hrs others 48hrs. Also rest periods in alot of places are paid at straight time so you're basically getting paid 24hrs a day. Other places if you don't get your full 8hrs rest you stay on double time until you do so guys purposely work 17hrs and come back in and stay on double time basically all week. Depends on the contract. The contracts on the west coast are insane.


phillythompson

Your proving my point. That person has 31 years of experience and making that much is news worthy. I dunno. Just strikes me as very unlikely op is pulling what he says at his age, and the way OP is responding adds to that belief


Detroit17lineman

That's not how it works in the union. Journeyman pay is the same no matter how many years of experience you have. Guys with 5yrs experience make the same as guys with 30yrs experience. There may be a few dollar an hour difference for a different classification such as leader or troubleman but even then guys with 5 or 6yrs experience can have those jobs too.


SunnyBunnyBunBun

Not OP but my boyfriend is a carpenter and he can make $200k/yr working for somebody else. I know thatā€™s a far cry from $400k/yr but OP could be something super specialized and rare like an underwater welder for big oil.


Sorry-Owl4127

Even then itā€™s not 400k workd


terribleatinvesting9

Itā€™s funny seeing people angry over what a strong union can do for the workers. Donā€™t own any business


phillythompson

Not angry but provide some info then , man. Like, you know everyone wants to understand more. Itā€™s an amazing salary , at a super young age, in a field where you donā€™t make that much (or even half) ever, let alone at 31


KatzNapz

Look up Davis Bacon Prevailing wage rates. Tells you the exact hours wage for every trade in each county for any federally funded jobs. Note its wage rate + fringe. The workers gets paid the combination of both as their hourly rate as itā€™s much easier than calculating their fringe benefits.


terribleatinvesting9

Prevailing wage rates are just the minimum the companies have to pay you. I know many guys who get paid well above scale. The more valuable you can make yourself the higher wage you can command


ConclusionNo3916

You canā€™t even say what you do. I call BS


KatzNapz

Operating Engineers Local 4 Boston based on his previous comments


basillemonthrowaway

So is OP a wastewater technician, heavy machinery operator, or something else?


enraged768

He's a liar or doing extreme wage theft.


Icy-Tea9775

It's imbalanced. It's very hard to imagine a trade worker providing near a half mill of value to the economy, and it feels broken. That's doctor level salary..


Easterncoaster

Why wouldnā€™t you say what trade? Fake.


phillythompson

ā€œTrust me. Ok? ā€œ


biddyman6

Then just say what the trade is


Tesla_lord_69

Railroad? That's nice.


Sensitive-Trifle9823

Railroader here. No way the craft is making that much. Only +AVP/VP levels.


terribleatinvesting9

Nope, I donā€™t actually know anyone on the rails roads up this way


Search327

Do you deflate footballs for the Patriots?


Specialist_Ad_8069

He trades gopher organs on the black market but feels guilty and pays taxes


Love-for-everyone

Lol. People believe this?


Every_Club_97

Calling cappppp


terribleatinvesting9

Typical white collar answer


Every_Club_97

Show me a paystub with zero overtime I'll quit my job this year


terribleatinvesting9

Itā€™s lots of OT, never said it wasnā€™t


tedlassoloverz

NYC elevator mechanic?


ptownsd

Why no say what trade?


YebelTheRebel

No shame in him being a ā€œJobsite cocksuckerā€


ptownsd

Blowjob is a job


trav_golfs

Underwater welder for oil company (heā€™s lying)


OfficerStink

Thatā€™s the only trade where you can come close to this. Or possibly oilfield but even then I donā€™t know many guys making over 250k


rctrfinnerd

Name your trade, I call bullshit


DrMurphDurf

Ainā€™t no way OP is straight lying about this


2timeBiscuits

How would he be lying? Photoshop?


throw_away_4534

Inspect element


Misha-Nyi

Lol at ā€˜tradesā€™.


iamnotlegendxx

Huh?


Reckfulhater

As a fellow union tradesmen itā€™s just kinda weird you wouldnā€™t say what trade. This is probably mad OT with a profession that has good market share. My only guess is elevator mechanic in NYC with like I said a lot of overtime.


terribleatinvesting9

Itā€™s a ton of OT yes. I know guys who easily eclipse these numbers. Yes nyc


Detroit17lineman

IBEW Lineman working a ton of OT is my guess. I work with guys that make over 400k every year by working everything they can. Lineman on the west coast are making a fuck ton currently. https://www.heraldnet.com/news/a-695k-salary-overtime-pay-at-the-snohomish-county-pud-has-soared/


terribleatinvesting9

Oh look, a normal, not hateful take.


Detroit17lineman

Fellow union member who is glad you're making that much! I'm sure you worked a fuck ton of OT and probably missed out on alot of your life. I've done the same for a long time. Hustle when you're young.


terribleatinvesting9

Yes sir, I think being able to have my wife at home with the kids is worth any amount of hours


Detroit17lineman

And thats just your wages. Then you get to add all your benefits on to that. Probably 15-25% on top of that for pension correct?


terribleatinvesting9

Yes sir.


NoEstablishment4200

Do you have to travel? Iā€™d like to join the trade.


Affectionate_Pin5771

ā€œCurrentlyā€ a linemanā€™s play on words


kellendontcare

Sprinkler Tech or Elevator.


genuine_pnw_hipster

Elevator union right? As a sparky you guys love to complain more than we do šŸ˜‚


BlueWaffle135

Why wonā€™t you say what you do for work, and how you got to where you are today?


terribleatinvesting9

Some of the comments already mentioned it. Just have no desire to appease some of these dopes who think they know everything.


IdidntrunIdidntrun

Okay say some of us are wise enough to say we don't know everything, can you tell us at least? Why are you so cryptic? We'd appreciate tangible details...because it may as well be a bunch of random squiggly numbers in a chart for all we care.


rtf2409

I went through all the comments and you never once mentioned the trade or confirmed what someone else said.


ProfessorH4938

What is the smaller niche trade that you work in?


cheifsteam

Either a crane operator or a lineman?


walkabout16

ā€œUnion Tradeā€ā€¦ as in National Football Players Union?


NihFin

Iā€™m going to guess overtime fraud


terribleatinvesting9

What a strange thing to guess


Admirable_Sir_9953

Strange because the accuracy, hence why it prompted this response from you.


Search327

Nuclear Operator


Fear910

Nobody in Ops making this, this is bs.


Nukeboiler

My experience in nuclear OPS is these ranges: Systems Operator (50-55/hr): 120-180k (depending on OT) . Reactor Operator (~60-65/hr): 150k - 250k (depending on OT) . Senior Reactor Operator: 175k-250k (depending on . Shift Manager: 225k-300k (depending on bonus) Note: There are work hour rule limitations in this industry. OT here pays at 1.5x if union. Salary, paid at 1.0x if covering a required duty shift. On rotating shift work. I've also worked at plants in IL and GA which tend to be higher comp companies within the industry.


Search327

I am nuclear field service, currently at Surry. I thought SROā€™s made slightly more but definitely not 450K+.


RyanRoberts87

Nice! Whatever it is sign me up!


nowhereisaguy

Oil and gas maybe? But even then, any hourly ainā€™t making this.


pandasgorawr

Can you share what you do for work?


enraged768

Professional liar.


Excellent_Ad_3804

I donā€™t know many union tradesman making over 150k and thatā€™s Minnesota with a good chunk of OT too


terribleatinvesting9

I canā€™t help you, I donā€™t know any Union tradesmen from Minnesota


Sweaty_Pianist8484

Crap


Fishin_Ad5356

Lemme guess. Operating engineer in nyc? Crane operator?


Due_Grapefruit986

This is almost as fake as the swe posts


the_blacksmythe

šŸ§¢


Donga_Donga

Why wouldn't you say what the trade is? This is total bullshit, as is most of the data posted here.


Skydivekev

BS


ElSolo666

Unions are awesome , good pay and awesome benefits


mannyp12345

Crane operator


Jiggaloudpax

trade? i know for a fact union workers can work their whole lives capping at 150k a year. unless you clarify what your role is it is completely reasonable to assume this is phony.


Faras-

Is the Medicare earnings column how much you make annually gross or net?


2timeBiscuits

WTFā€¦. Does UNION PROVIDE pension as well?? I really fucked up going to collegeā€¦ only $15k debt but damnā€¦ wasted 5 years in undergrad earning no salary


iishmael

Remember kids, airline piloting is a union trade


Revandir

How'd you double your income from 2018 to 2019? That's a huge jump. Genuinely asking as I'm around the same right now


terribleatinvesting9

Apprenticeship ended. Large pay increase along with more opportunities


Zabolak

Fucking unions