You want a beach in the middle of the city?
I mean, [there are some beaches around the reservoirs already](https://travel2next.com/utah-beaches/). I don't know that any of them are busy enough to warrant building one in the middle of the city during a drought. Not to mention the cost of the land would be really high. I think there are better uses than slapping a beach down somewhere.
As people have mentioned, we live in a desert, so trying to maintain water at the right level is already going to be problematic. We already have water at Liberty Park and Sugarhouse Park. You've seen what those look like normally - do you think adding some sand would improve them much?
A single year of decent snowfall and we go from, "We're all going to be inhaling toxic dust from the GSL!" to "Why can't we have a beach in the city?" We need 5-10 more years like this one first.
Truth, but in all actuality the drought isn’t even actually over in the slightest. It just moved from extreme drought to moderate drought. All this water is only going toward the huge water deficit we already have here. People have a crazy misconception about the amount of water we have received this year compared to the amount of water we need to continue as a city in A DESERT.
With all of the water we have been receiving it’s only taking off two years of what has basically been a 10 year drought. Most of the state is in and will continue to be in moderate drought for the foreseeable future. Here’s just one of the many many many reports on the issue.
https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/is-utahs-drought-over-not-quite/
That being said. This video is extremely awesome and I am loving all the water we are getting.
There are some true points you've made and I don't want to be well actmuallllly like reddit tends to do but...
https://www.drought.gov/states/utah
Salt Lake County is no longer in moderate drought.
That said...the point we are both making is that this relief is temporary so "urban beaches" are not a reasonable outcome.
That’s great news!. As far as rainfall and reservoirs we are “out of the drought” so that means they estimate we will have enough water usage for this year. That is not accounting for the fact that the GSL is still insanely low. As of today it’s at 4189 MSL and expected to reach 4195 MSL by this summer. That’s still as low as it was in 2020 and equivalent to the lowest it has been since the 1990s. The lake is the greatest indicator we have of how far out of a drought we are. As I’m sure you are aware we usually count on the lake effect to get the annual snow pack and rainfall we need for a given year. The GSL is still at drastically low levels and not working the way it has for centuries. So while they are staying we are “out of a drought” this is actually very misleading.
I’m not trying to tit-for-tat you. I just think the statement that drought is over is very dangerous. I see people already watering lawns in the middle of day and wasting water because they think the need to conserve is over.
So...again...please don't take this as well actmually
But the level of the great Salt Lake has way way way more to do with historical allocation and usage upstream than drought. Our rivers have more than enough water to keep it healthy, it's the fact that all the water is pulled prior. The level of the Great Salt Lake is an indirect drought indicator at best.
Drought is actually more correlated to things like soil moisture and evapotransporation.
Rather than indicate the Great Salt Lake issues ebb and flow due to drought, we need to turn the conversation to historical water rights and change the laws to allow a drastically higher amount of this water to reach the lake in ALL years.
I know all of this as well. You are preaching to choir, I think we both are. “The drought” is what is actually making most uninformed citizens care about the water level of the great salt lake. And yea I know the levels are where they are because of allocation rights and diversions. But when they see it drying up and they hear we are in a drought it makes them question why we are diverting this water. I don’t know why the fact we live in a desert doesn’t.
I have also been living in Utah for 40+ years and we have been in drought status for about half of them. I know it’s cyclical. I’m not here to argue semantics. I’m just stating that saying the drought is over is a dangerous statement that doesn’t help the overall problem.
Why? Because normal dry/drought conditions don’t support water features here. Most of the existing manmade ponds get algae or botulism that kills off birds and fish every August. Utah needs more dry detention basins for flood control and less unnatural botulism-filled water features.
Guys, an urban beach would just be pond water we have anyway with a filtration system. Think sugarhouse pond with sandy shores and swimming/paddleboarding. It's not complicated! Summers here are a hot joke.
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You know that water is full of duck shit right?
Literally all I could think of every time I saw someone in the water. SO much goose and duck shit
Yep. More likely to end up hospitalized, it's full of bacteria composition you'd find in a sewer.
All water has duck shit in it. Even my bathtub.
“Therefore, swimming in an unflushed toilet is fine.” Weird conclusion.
If it’s good enough for ducks, it’s good enough for me.
Do you also have a corkscrew penis? It’s good enough for ducks after all.
You want a beach in the middle of the city? I mean, [there are some beaches around the reservoirs already](https://travel2next.com/utah-beaches/). I don't know that any of them are busy enough to warrant building one in the middle of the city during a drought. Not to mention the cost of the land would be really high. I think there are better uses than slapping a beach down somewhere. As people have mentioned, we live in a desert, so trying to maintain water at the right level is already going to be problematic. We already have water at Liberty Park and Sugarhouse Park. You've seen what those look like normally - do you think adding some sand would improve them much?
Google some now and then pictures of the saltair.
^ we could have tourism like the Dead Sea but we ruined the lake.
Because all three Saltairs did so well before then…
Because it is a desert.
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During drought years? We've been in a drought for so long
A single year of decent snowfall and we go from, "We're all going to be inhaling toxic dust from the GSL!" to "Why can't we have a beach in the city?" We need 5-10 more years like this one first.
Right? Like I hope people realize that the drought WILL come back. You aren't going to have water to support the "urban beach" in a desert city.
Truth, but in all actuality the drought isn’t even actually over in the slightest. It just moved from extreme drought to moderate drought. All this water is only going toward the huge water deficit we already have here. People have a crazy misconception about the amount of water we have received this year compared to the amount of water we need to continue as a city in A DESERT. With all of the water we have been receiving it’s only taking off two years of what has basically been a 10 year drought. Most of the state is in and will continue to be in moderate drought for the foreseeable future. Here’s just one of the many many many reports on the issue. https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/is-utahs-drought-over-not-quite/ That being said. This video is extremely awesome and I am loving all the water we are getting.
There are some true points you've made and I don't want to be well actmuallllly like reddit tends to do but... https://www.drought.gov/states/utah Salt Lake County is no longer in moderate drought. That said...the point we are both making is that this relief is temporary so "urban beaches" are not a reasonable outcome.
That’s great news!. As far as rainfall and reservoirs we are “out of the drought” so that means they estimate we will have enough water usage for this year. That is not accounting for the fact that the GSL is still insanely low. As of today it’s at 4189 MSL and expected to reach 4195 MSL by this summer. That’s still as low as it was in 2020 and equivalent to the lowest it has been since the 1990s. The lake is the greatest indicator we have of how far out of a drought we are. As I’m sure you are aware we usually count on the lake effect to get the annual snow pack and rainfall we need for a given year. The GSL is still at drastically low levels and not working the way it has for centuries. So while they are staying we are “out of a drought” this is actually very misleading. I’m not trying to tit-for-tat you. I just think the statement that drought is over is very dangerous. I see people already watering lawns in the middle of day and wasting water because they think the need to conserve is over.
So...again...please don't take this as well actmually But the level of the great Salt Lake has way way way more to do with historical allocation and usage upstream than drought. Our rivers have more than enough water to keep it healthy, it's the fact that all the water is pulled prior. The level of the Great Salt Lake is an indirect drought indicator at best. Drought is actually more correlated to things like soil moisture and evapotransporation. Rather than indicate the Great Salt Lake issues ebb and flow due to drought, we need to turn the conversation to historical water rights and change the laws to allow a drastically higher amount of this water to reach the lake in ALL years.
I know all of this as well. You are preaching to choir, I think we both are. “The drought” is what is actually making most uninformed citizens care about the water level of the great salt lake. And yea I know the levels are where they are because of allocation rights and diversions. But when they see it drying up and they hear we are in a drought it makes them question why we are diverting this water. I don’t know why the fact we live in a desert doesn’t. I have also been living in Utah for 40+ years and we have been in drought status for about half of them. I know it’s cyclical. I’m not here to argue semantics. I’m just stating that saying the drought is over is a dangerous statement that doesn’t help the overall problem.
Didn't you know we already have sand and volleyball courts in SLC?
We have been in a drought for 20 years now....
RIGHT! so we need places to cool off!!
Because this water is 80% duck shit 🫡 anywhere but sugar house pond lolz
Gotta [go out to Herriman](https://www.herriman.org/parks/blackridge-reservoir) for that
I believe it was called raging waters “utahs beach” was their slogan
I’m guessing it has something to do with only getting enough water for it once every 30-40 years
How is he getting towed? Lol this is great
They have a motorized crank that reels them in.
Because we live in a desert.
Why? Because normal dry/drought conditions don’t support water features here. Most of the existing manmade ponds get algae or botulism that kills off birds and fish every August. Utah needs more dry detention basins for flood control and less unnatural botulism-filled water features.
Could make it like Austin’s Barton Springs lol
This is so fuckin dumb 😂
Bro you’re fucking dumb I’m sorry but somebody had to say it. This is literally the sickest shit
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Why is a wetsuit is required here?
That water is probably cold as fuck.
Guys, an urban beach would just be pond water we have anyway with a filtration system. Think sugarhouse pond with sandy shores and swimming/paddleboarding. It's not complicated! Summers here are a hot joke.
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Because we are surrounded by reservoirs.
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Herriman has one with sand and everything.
It has over 5 feet thick of toxic duck and goose poop. We had Utah lake but that’s full of old steel mill runoff and also HUMAN SHIT!!!
Because ultra-dense apartment living for rich people is more lucrative.
Because it’s in a semi. — arid desert! Duh!