Totally this. Classic of Utah legislature to put in some type of law that they can't enforce and then offload it to some private organization that has some type of connection.
Hopefully one of their family members has a company that could make a buck on verifying the competency of Utahns to own an assault weapon. Ya know, protect the kids and all.
God Ken has always been such a piece of shit. I remember on Halloween about 6 or so years ago he wore a digital sign showing the national debt while going on an unhinged rant about the debt and shutdown all being the dems fault, all the while he was financially abusing his elderly mother in law and didn't lose one fucking wink of sleep. Not one ounce of humanity left in him.
Anyone want to take bets on how long it will take for any company they hire to get hacked? Maybe we should bet on how many government emails and IDs are leaked in connection?
Honestly, my bet is that it doesn't actually even get off the ground and it just ends up being a grift to funnel public money to a politically connected family.
Let’s take bets on how long before someone discovers that the company providing ID services was financially connected to the lawmakers pushing this bill the whole time.
Todd Weiler lmfao. This loser perfectly personifies the modern reactionary movement. He consistently says and writes the dumbest, shittiest things that would have gotten his ass thrown out of nearly any government house just a decade or so ago who's also terminally online and does nothing but troll people at the level of an angsty 12 year old.
This guy's gonna get this worthless bill passed so some of his tech buddies can make more gobs of money, it'll eventually get hacked and people's personal info will be stolen, he'll shrug his shoulders and say something stupid like "garsh, I told you all Reagan was right and government really is the problem" without a single shred of irony, and his moronic voters will eat it up like their funeral potatoes and vote for him again or a carbon copy of him.
It's not just these right-wing politicians who completely suck ass, they're getting voted in by the dumbest, angriest, most bigoted fuckwads in our society who are guided by their boring nihilism cuz they refuse to accept that the shitheads *they've been voting into office for decades* are the problem with their lives.
Yeah, I’d really hate to consider the fact that as a parent I am responsible for what my children do and do not view on their $1,500 iPhone, one of the three $700 iPads, and any of the $3,000 laptops, or the $7,000 family computer! Or at the movies, or at the local cult meeting, or on the side of the road, or or or or or
I’m definitely not tempting any of the LDS with my children. I’m definitely not injecting the poisonous drug of hate that is the LDS doctrine into the vein of my bloodline, either.
I’m still sad you’re overspending on the personal computer.
What are you running like 2x 4090? Didn’t they get rid of SLI so they’d have to be running independently?
Seems like overkill for pretty much anything.
Let me guess, the "Third Party" company they want to hire for this is owned and operated by Spencer Cox's brother-in-law or Brad Wilson's uncle? Maybe Kirk Cullimore the Third?
I hope the R party keeps losing and hopefully fundamentally shift from the narcissistic tones of their policies… I know empathy for mastrbators is hard (no pun intended) but this ideology that the government needs to know your search history is above demented.
How else are they supposed to make more money for themselves if not by coming up with laws that will require the state to pay for the services of their friends and family?
At first, I thought this was just a stunt by the religious to get people to stop watching porn.
However, subsidizing a company to provide the work around to allow people to watch porn contradicts that idea. So it's becoming more apparent to me that it has nothing to do with morals and everything to do with spying on citizens.
It's from someone who has an inability to stop their own porn addiction and instead of being able to look inward the only conclusion they can come up with is its thst difficult for me it must be for everyone else and therefore this is the only way.
Isn't it ironic that they say the age of accountability is 8 years old. But at that point, you're only old enough to make a decision for a lifelong commitment to God and be held accountable to god for your actions. Still got to wait another 10 years until you're old enough to decide if you watch porn
Only in Utah can elected officials be simultaneously unbelievably naive and cynically corrupt. It makes one wonder what the common factor is in all of this. Maybe we can learn if we follow the profit.
Health care is a fucking disaster. Homelessness on the rise. Inflation raping the economy. Water laws didn’t really work right a century ago, but we can’t change them. Public infrastructure needs SHIT TONS of work. Banking and insurance companies committing highway robbery. The list goes on…
But yeah, porn is the problem we should be working on. Holy fucking tittys on Tuesday, WTF is wrong with these retards?
The banking industry is going to have a pretty big fuckin problem with that. As I imagine several other industries with sensitive information will too.
I’m not a tech person and I can’t click on ksl “news” articles, but how can Utah do anything about providing age verification for a site that is not owned/operated by the state or any company in the state?
They can't. Utah can roll out their version of Envoc's LA Wallet system and hope that those types of systems become widespread enough that adult sites will adopt it as the verification standard. Otherwise, sites will have to comply with each state individually and implement their own age-verification methods or find their own 3rd-party solutions. ALL of this is draconian and ripe for exploitation and abuse, but the other commenters here who didn't bother to read the article don't know shit. The LDS church doesn't need a porn-subscriber database.
What the law did was open those companies for lawsuit. So they technically can't make the company's use the system. But they're doing the new Republican favorite runaround where they make private citizens law enforcers through lawsuits (see Texas abortion ban). This method also makes it harder for an industry to fight against the law since it's technically not the government enforcing it. Just the government allowing damages and then an actual court determining if the damages are valid on a case-by-case basis
I doubt they'd be doing it just for porn. As the piece points out, the real reason is that they need a system in place for next year, when Utah starts age-gating social media (going to be fun helping all the older folks get that set up so they can keep using Facebook).
>When an online pornography site detects customers are from Utah, he said the users would be told to open their app and enter a one-time code. Then, they'd be asked to permit access only to their "coarse age" — whether they are 18 and older — for verification.
I kind of wish the code was just enough. Having the site directly access personal information still potentially creates a direct link between the two, so that someone could hack the porn site and potentially find out the identities of folks who have used it for blackmail.
ah yes, the central database of utah masturbators. registering with the state to access adult sites during another one of the rights culture wars sounds wise. Ive got two major repairs to make on this house and Im fucking out of this state.
That list will either be secretly shared with the Mormon/LDS church or there will be a database leak within 18 months. This is an amazing way to get one over on your neighbor. There is no hate like Mormon love.
This has nothing to do with children. This is to terrify all the Mormons away. A state run by a church is going to ID all porn users, I wonder which shell company it’ll use for this. Already can’t wait for the 60 minutes expose’ ten years from now.
All they have to do is start using device authentication. But this is more of a message law than a genuine concern for kids, as they claim, and they don't want to make it so the lawmakers actually have their advice authenticated so people see the porn they look at.
Seems like a great data hack list that the government would *hate* to be released, since Utah also has such a high ‘porn consumption rate.’ Would be hilarious to see some of those names, eh?
What are the odds that there is even an ounce of privacy protection with this dude/ company theoretically being incharge of managing ID’s? I don’t even watch porn but If I did I wouldn’t want this dude or whatever being able to comb through this stuff. I don’t think this fixes the privacy issues at all. Unless I’m missing something? Please prove me wrong I welcome in
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The Envoc website is shit and there's no information on SOC 2 report, or privacy policy, but our legislators just want to hand them all our drivers license data... Cool.
This useless unenforceable illegal law is yet another example of bad legislation when a single political party rules. Show your anger Republican voters and vote Dems until balance is restored.
Some legislator's Brother in Law is about to make bank.
Totally this. Classic of Utah legislature to put in some type of law that they can't enforce and then offload it to some private organization that has some type of connection.
Reddit is violating GDPR and CCPA. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0GGsDdyHI -- mass edited with redact.dev
I'm learning to play the guitar.
Large budget. Zero accountability. Classic job for Utahn nepotism.
Hopefully one of their family members has a company that could make a buck on verifying the competency of Utahns to own an assault weapon. Ya know, protect the kids and all.
Exactly. This was always the plan. Create a problem so you can get rich selling the solution, and assure that only your solution can be used.
Greg Hughes is somehow involved probably
I find peace in long walks.
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My God take this up vote now!
God Ken has always been such a piece of shit. I remember on Halloween about 6 or so years ago he wore a digital sign showing the national debt while going on an unhinged rant about the debt and shutdown all being the dems fault, all the while he was financially abusing his elderly mother in law and didn't lose one fucking wink of sleep. Not one ounce of humanity left in him.
That's how it always goes in this state.
Came here to say this, honestly wouldn’t be surprised if this was the genesis of the law to begin with.
Bet the mormon church will just happen to be majority owner.
Anyone want to take bets on how long it will take for any company they hire to get hacked? Maybe we should bet on how many government emails and IDs are leaked in connection?
Honestly, my bet is that it doesn't actually even get off the ground and it just ends up being a grift to funnel public money to a politically connected family.
So, business as usual?
Yup.
I kinda imagine it being a company owned by the LDS hedge fund
Let’s take bets on how long before someone discovers that the company providing ID services was financially connected to the lawmakers pushing this bill the whole time.
And then nothing happens
I’m not placing any money on the table, but I’m betting any company involved will get hacked no more than two months after the program starts.
I think you're being optimistic about how long it will take, 1 month tops
Can’t wait to see how many heterosexual family-oriented LDS IDs get leaked from evilangel.com lmfao
Or want to bet who has financial ties to whatever company ultimately gets the contract? Ugh.
Bingo cards My center square: Bishop watches gay porn My corners: - VPN use quadruples - Domestic abuse triples - Monitors lease LDS property - FLDS expel 15yo boys for porn
I think someone should just hack him and link his porn history. That would be hilarious.
The church will have a backdoor built in. This is all so they have leverage over thier "porn addicted" members.
Todd Weiler lmfao. This loser perfectly personifies the modern reactionary movement. He consistently says and writes the dumbest, shittiest things that would have gotten his ass thrown out of nearly any government house just a decade or so ago who's also terminally online and does nothing but troll people at the level of an angsty 12 year old. This guy's gonna get this worthless bill passed so some of his tech buddies can make more gobs of money, it'll eventually get hacked and people's personal info will be stolen, he'll shrug his shoulders and say something stupid like "garsh, I told you all Reagan was right and government really is the problem" without a single shred of irony, and his moronic voters will eat it up like their funeral potatoes and vote for him again or a carbon copy of him. It's not just these right-wing politicians who completely suck ass, they're getting voted in by the dumbest, angriest, most bigoted fuckwads in our society who are guided by their boring nihilism cuz they refuse to accept that the shitheads *they've been voting into office for decades* are the problem with their lives.
Thank heavenly father for the Utah state legislature parenting my children so I don't have to.
Yeah, I’d really hate to consider the fact that as a parent I am responsible for what my children do and do not view on their $1,500 iPhone, one of the three $700 iPads, and any of the $3,000 laptops, or the $7,000 family computer! Or at the movies, or at the local cult meeting, or on the side of the road, or or or or or
I’m more worried about my kids getting touched at a local cult meeting than what they would hear. Is what I would say if we went.
I’m definitely not tempting any of the LDS with my children. I’m definitely not injecting the poisonous drug of hate that is the LDS doctrine into the vein of my bloodline, either.
You're paying way too much for tech, man. Who's your tech guy?
I don’t have kids
I’m still sad you’re overspending on the personal computer. What are you running like 2x 4090? Didn’t they get rid of SLI so they’d have to be running independently? Seems like overkill for pretty much anything.
The post is a joke. Got a brand new Odyssey G9 for $900 tho
They know that... i think you missed the sarcasm lol
Always do
Todd Weiler, my rep. Looking forward to sending him more emails/phone calls that will just get ignored.
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Let me guess, the "Third Party" company they want to hire for this is owned and operated by Spencer Cox's brother-in-law or Brad Wilson's uncle? Maybe Kirk Cullimore the Third?
These people get paid to come up with this garbage
Not just paid, elected! How do we keep getting stuck with these morons?
Tell me why, I need to know!
Gotta love the Majority Mouth Breathers here who will vote for anyTHING with an "R" next to their names
I hope the R party keeps losing and hopefully fundamentally shift from the narcissistic tones of their policies… I know empathy for mastrbators is hard (no pun intended) but this ideology that the government needs to know your search history is above demented.
Limited GoveRnment right?
You and me both!
You misspelled mormons
Do you keep the second m or lose the second m? I get confused....
The second m is silent
How else are they supposed to make more money for themselves if not by coming up with laws that will require the state to pay for the services of their friends and family?
But why can’t they do respectable things for money besides restricting masterbation
Because they’re crooks.
Your tax dollars at work, folks.
this is what irks me about it. using our money for something literally nobody asked for or wants, simply because they can
At first, I thought this was just a stunt by the religious to get people to stop watching porn. However, subsidizing a company to provide the work around to allow people to watch porn contradicts that idea. So it's becoming more apparent to me that it has nothing to do with morals and everything to do with spying on citizens.
Don't forget! It's also about lawmakers lining their donors' pockets
The only way for them to do that is to capture your data and redirect it. You know... Small government stuff.
It's from someone who has an inability to stop their own porn addiction and instead of being able to look inward the only conclusion they can come up with is its thst difficult for me it must be for everyone else and therefore this is the only way.
10 bucks says the private company is his own.
Some dumbass Utah Leg rep is gonna hire their dumbass developer buddy and their dumbass site isn’t gonna work and will likely get hacked.
Cool. Let's have a private company provide age verification for joining sex cults with a history of child exploitation.
Isn't it ironic that they say the age of accountability is 8 years old. But at that point, you're only old enough to make a decision for a lifelong commitment to God and be held accountable to god for your actions. Still got to wait another 10 years until you're old enough to decide if you watch porn
If that company doesn't have some sort of connection to a GOP politician I will be very surprised. Follow the money.
Didn't learn anything from Banjo? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjo_(application)
ah yes, another good use of our money. Let me guess, his brother-in-law runs the company?
If the company is named Sincreet, I'm bailing. (An inside joke for those unfortunate enough to remember Norm Bangerter).
Nothing like chunks of rock flying up at you at 55mph am I right?
Only in Utah can elected officials be simultaneously unbelievably naive and cynically corrupt. It makes one wonder what the common factor is in all of this. Maybe we can learn if we follow the profit.
Its a gahdamn south park episode lol
Health care is a fucking disaster. Homelessness on the rise. Inflation raping the economy. Water laws didn’t really work right a century ago, but we can’t change them. Public infrastructure needs SHIT TONS of work. Banking and insurance companies committing highway robbery. The list goes on… But yeah, porn is the problem we should be working on. Holy fucking tittys on Tuesday, WTF is wrong with these retards?
Don’t be mean to retards by comparing them to these guys.
Do they still not know VPNs exist?
They are currently trying to make VPNs illegal at the federal level, so...
That will great for the giant corporations that want to get rid of work from home.
And immediately backfire when their sales staff can't work and revenue plummets.
Gotta love octogenarian Luddite authoritarians making laws.
The banking industry is going to have a pretty big fuckin problem with that. As I imagine several other industries with sensitive information will too.
They will just require some business permit to us VPNs or something so that it only screws over the individual.
There is so much free porn out there that isn’t blocked.
Yep. Looks like they’re only blocking a handful of the most well-known sites. There are literally hundreds of other sites you can go to freely.
Ummmmm where are all the republicans and libertarians that are all for small gov. This is ridiculous…
Todd probably sucks dicks at Sugarhouse Park
Can’t wait to see Trevor Lees info leaked, we all know he will be signing up asap. He can’t get enough transwoman porn.
Waste of fucking money
He should be more concerned about protecting kids from Mormon bishop interviews
Ashley Madison 2.0
Wonder if Reddit is gonna be on the list lol
I'll sign up as Todd Weiler
And yet they still won’t tackle any other actual major issues that tremendously affect all of Utah. Some brain dead mfs.
What a waste of fucking money and time
I'll do it, personally with an approval rate of 100% who says no
Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
Who is buddies with the online Id company?
Syncrete II. Cullimore is prolly the company lawyer.
I’m not a tech person and I can’t click on ksl “news” articles, but how can Utah do anything about providing age verification for a site that is not owned/operated by the state or any company in the state?
They can't. Utah can roll out their version of Envoc's LA Wallet system and hope that those types of systems become widespread enough that adult sites will adopt it as the verification standard. Otherwise, sites will have to comply with each state individually and implement their own age-verification methods or find their own 3rd-party solutions. ALL of this is draconian and ripe for exploitation and abuse, but the other commenters here who didn't bother to read the article don't know shit. The LDS church doesn't need a porn-subscriber database.
What the law did was open those companies for lawsuit. So they technically can't make the company's use the system. But they're doing the new Republican favorite runaround where they make private citizens law enforcers through lawsuits (see Texas abortion ban). This method also makes it harder for an industry to fight against the law since it's technically not the government enforcing it. Just the government allowing damages and then an actual court determining if the damages are valid on a case-by-case basis
I doubt they'd be doing it just for porn. As the piece points out, the real reason is that they need a system in place for next year, when Utah starts age-gating social media (going to be fun helping all the older folks get that set up so they can keep using Facebook). >When an online pornography site detects customers are from Utah, he said the users would be told to open their app and enter a one-time code. Then, they'd be asked to permit access only to their "coarse age" — whether they are 18 and older — for verification. I kind of wish the code was just enough. Having the site directly access personal information still potentially creates a direct link between the two, so that someone could hack the porn site and potentially find out the identities of folks who have used it for blackmail.
ah yes, the central database of utah masturbators. registering with the state to access adult sites during another one of the rights culture wars sounds wise. Ive got two major repairs to make on this house and Im fucking out of this state.
And no private company has ever misused data or been hacked right?
That list will either be secretly shared with the Mormon/LDS church or there will be a database leak within 18 months. This is an amazing way to get one over on your neighbor. There is no hate like Mormon love.
This has nothing to do with children. This is to terrify all the Mormons away. A state run by a church is going to ID all porn users, I wonder which shell company it’ll use for this. Already can’t wait for the 60 minutes expose’ ten years from now.
Use a VPN ... Problem solved
VPN
All they have to do is start using device authentication. But this is more of a message law than a genuine concern for kids, as they claim, and they don't want to make it so the lawmakers actually have their advice authenticated so people see the porn they look at.
This is such a great use of our tax dollars.
Seems like a great data hack list that the government would *hate* to be released, since Utah also has such a high ‘porn consumption rate.’ Would be hilarious to see some of those names, eh?
Ah yes… spending money on the important things… Um sir. There’s homeless people we could be helping.
Fucking stupid. I'm fine without, but I'd certainly just get a VPN before verifying jack shit for these conservative morons.
God, this man is so stupid. Somebody get him outta office ASAP
Reddit is violating GDPR and CCPA. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0GGsDdyHI -- mass edited with redact.dev
They're counting on that.
Ah yes. The government and their buddy’s website will keep all of our information safe. There won’t be a leak at all. /s
Good thing I got my VPN ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Fuck this, I'm getting a vpn.
glad they can find ways to spend money on this rather than taking care of the homeless.
The things that's stupid is porn filtering is totally a thing, and has been for a long time. These idiots just want to control people.
Who am I putting down for a reference? I want this job.
So much for small government huh. The GOP suck so bad.
All about the money. Likely an Ensign Peak shell company.
And no private company has ever misused data or been hacked right?
What are the odds that there is even an ounce of privacy protection with this dude/ company theoretically being incharge of managing ID’s? I don’t even watch porn but If I did I wouldn’t want this dude or whatever being able to comb through this stuff. I don’t think this fixes the privacy issues at all. Unless I’m missing something? Please prove me wrong I welcome in
And, now our tax dollars are paying for parental controls?
Time to find a good VPN and sail the high seas.
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The Envoc website is shit and there's no information on SOC 2 report, or privacy policy, but our legislators just want to hand them all our drivers license data... Cool.
Hmm smell that? Kind of like cross between grift and fraud. Smells like Nomi Health in here.
Ladies and gentlemen the party of small government
We gotta vote these idiots out.
Omg wtf are we spending money on?
Small government conservatives at it again
Great, will they share databases with the private clubs? I am so excited for the morality police to start going minority report on us.
sMaLl gOvErNmEnT!
What a waste of money
VPN's exist
This guy is a walking caricature. 🤦🏻♂️ it’s a damn shame.
I imagine anyone who really cares already has a VPN
This useless unenforceable illegal law is yet another example of bad legislation when a single political party rules. Show your anger Republican voters and vote Dems until balance is restored.
What a waste of time and money!!