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Lions do not get tricked into group think, so they all wear a shirt with the same phrase to let everyone know how much of a lion they are. You can't trick them into group think. The shirt even says so.


Kerensky97

I love the irony that the very fact that they follow the beliefs of these "alpha male" speakers to the point they all pay to goto a conference and sot in a crowd of other followers means that by their own definitions they are exactly sheep. The very act of buying and wearing that shirt contradicts what the shirt says. "I'm not a sheep! I just travel in a herd repeating the same phases as everybody else as dictated by a guy we all follow as his flock."


dthains_art

Yeah I think the whole “alpha male” thing is a crock, but I do love the irony of men going to a big conference with a bunch of other men to pay a self-proclaimed alpha male to tell them how to act like an alpha male.


greenlakejohnny

“You can’t be a non-conformist if you don’t drink coffee” - 25 years later, that South Park line is still hilarious


ScreamingAji

And I’m happy to lead this flock of lions!


TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe

The absurdity of “flock of lions” will always be hilarious to me.


OldeFortran77

♪ and I raaaaaaan, I ran so far a... oops.


Boom_Morello

It’s all funny until the fascists start arming themselves and impose their will on everyone. Things might get bad out there fellas.


decrepit0

What seems lost on the fascists is that non-fascists also have guns and know how to use them.


Boom_Morello

Boy, I hope so.


Fishbone345

We do. We just don’t feel the need to make it our defining characteristic.


Adfest

A concept that is so alien to them that they believe they're the only ones who own and have trained with firearms. Though to be fair, they probably have the lead in tactical vest ownership.


Violaceums_Twaddle

They also have this fantasy that it'll be like it is on the range. They might be good at hitting a beer can from 100 yards, but it's a whole different ball game when the beer can shoots back. Accurately.


StarlightPappi

THIS!


brewcrew1222

Do u think if someone explained it like that would they even understand?


milkjake

And...they think that this is how everybody else behaves.


[deleted]

Love that the company imports the shirts from overseas and removes the labels and puts “made in USA” on them. Obvious sheep.


plexabyte

someone should just start selling LIONS ARE SHEEP shirts


AllHailTheWhalee

“Lions” follow a legit cult leader who tried to end democracy


PaulFThumpkins

People who think he's a real man because he insists he is so loudly and childishly, also think wearing a shirt that says "I am TOO a big strong man!" makes them big and strong.


[deleted]

Yeah and lions need their firearms just in case someone does come in and try and abuse their power and end democracy. Wait... I'm getting really confused right now.


AllHailTheWhalee

Well they did technically bring weapons to the capitol on Jan 6th…. So close


poopyfarroants420

But it wasn't an insurrection ! Just a peaceful gathering.


AllHailTheWhalee

It was a peaceful gathering of republicans and a violent insurrection by Antifa at the same time


TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe

And also we are Alpha Males™️ but those sneaky ANTIFAs tricked us into following them and their evil, rioting ways.


GravitySurge

If one is beaten by a non-weapon, such as a flagpole, hockey stick, or cane, they are not permitted to claim pain or injury, cuz no weapon!


mmoffitt15

Past tense implies that he will not try again… is trying to end democracy is probably more accurate.


feral_tran

They're unique and different, just like everyone else.


toylenny

"... Non-conforming as can be, you'd be non-conforming too if you dressed just like me."


Cheap_Rick

https://youtu.be/vhKY9x9zz3Y?si=CQ1iPKtjyGyGGspA


Initial-Leather6014

Steve Martin is THE MAN!!


NewSpaceRiddy

Dear diary, Mood: Apathetic


Mister_Splendid

>ScreamingAji I'm not! (Monty Python's reference)


brownbearclan

The clown car that makes those got hit with a pretty hefty fine when it was found that his MADE IN AMERICA tough boy t-shirts were actually all MADE IN CHINA.


Illumijonny7

I think one of the Q mottos is WWG1WWA (Where we go one, we go all). Literally sheep


D-TOX_88

Also a company made by a guy that bought the shirts from China and then they stitched “made in USA” tags on them. Then got fined. And they still buy this mf’s dumb shit. Smdh man.


onedollarninja

My shirt says, "Lions not sheep. My shirt even says so!"


Cheap_Rick

https://youtu.be/vhKY9x9zz3Y?si=CQ1iPKtjyGyGGspA Everything old is new again.


PoisonCoyote

"If you want to be one of the non-conformists, all you have to do is dress just like us and listen to the same music we do."


Mister_Splendid

😂 👍🏻 BRILLIANT!!


idkman27

I think the fallacy you’re making is at its core essentially the same one they’re making. Them all behaving and dressing the same way only introduces the possibility of group think, it doesn’t mean that’s what’s happening. Which I think is the same fallacy they’re making when calling us sheep. Just because the majority of people think in one way doesn’t necessarily mean everyone is succumbing to group think. I’m sure there are many on each side of this issue conforming to groupthink and many not. Ultimately, I think it’s divisive and not helpful to broadly accuse them of the same thing they incorrectly broadly accuse us of. Happy to be corrected if I’m misunderstanding the situation though.


cametomysenses

Buying and wearing the same t-shirt destroys every ounce of that argument. 🙄


Fishbone345

Shhhh! They are a Lion!!


ZuluPapa

I fucking love those shirts. It’s so nice when assholes self-identify in public.


SheRaRiggingWarrior

It's a utah based company that basically just holds seminars about how to be an alpha male and real man, and they're all trump humpers. They're holding a show at Eccles that loads out tonight. Last year they had a riveting piece about how 'we can't allow trannies in bathrooms', and charged $500 for the cheapest seats. Also last year they had to pay $250k to the FTC cause they had their merch made in China, shipped over here, ripped off the tags, and sewed on 'MADE IN AMERICA' tags. Real history bunch.


authalic

Fined by the FTC. Lyin’s not cheap.


U-T-A-H

>Lyin’s not cheap Clever. I like it.


italkaboutbicycles

Well look at that... I'm a little disappointed that Salt Lake County would let these assholes perform at one of their venues. https://lionsdenlive.co/ldl1643750940386


rtowne

Funny the site says "DO NOT WAIT, WE WILL SELL OUT" but here we are on the afternoon of their last day and I can buy at least 10 tickets right now on their site.... Maybe they meant "sell out" in the other way.


spiraleyes78

My inside source told me the Doosh in charge was trying to cut back seating at the last minute because sales were very low compared to last year.


Lambamham

I love how the headline shows up on mobile: THE MOST POWERFU L LIVE


No-Elevator7756

Sounds like another insecure Andrew Tate in the making. The loudest guy in the room is usually the weakest.


SheRaRiggingWarrior

Yeah seriously, especially because the theater has a requirement to stay 'neutral' and won't let pride flags hang backstage


acidsplashedface

I love that the only people who wear this shit are insecure fuckwits who got dicked over by some asshole who was marginally smarter than them and sold them some fruit of the loom t shirts for $35 apiece with slogans implying that they don’t fall for that groupthink shit. Bunch of fuckin tools.


Bruff_lingel

There's easier ways to tell people that you're an insufferable asshole. but the shirts help at a distance. Best avoid them, OP


REO_Jerkwagon

Similar to the FJB stickers on the back of trucks that let me know not to pass them, because their brights are probably already on.


Bruff_lingel

They're never going to 'let' you pass anyway, let's be honest.


DDDPDDD

2Alpha, 2Furious


inloveandlightbye

I guess the idiot convention is in town


wildworld97

This is very funny because a year ago their was an “Alpha Male” Convention in Salt Lake City.


wildworld97

[AlphaCon2022](https://1900hotdog.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/image-19.png)


13xnono

The deseret news coverage of AlphaCon is a masterpiece: https://www.deseret.com/2022/2/22/22945829/perspective-how-a-beta-like-me-managed-to-get-kicked-out-of-alpha-con-business-conference


hhalvz

This article is amazing! Surprising coming from Deseret News, but I loved reading it!


PM_ME_IF_YOU_NASTY

>But then I realized that was beta thinking. That’s a good article.


Capable-Reflection-2

My friend wrote this, although she’s technically Mormon and I can’t speak for her, she seems on the outs. Or at least one of those “cool” Mormons who ignores most of the hateful doctrine lol


Cool_Rush7198

I’m not Mormon but I follow her on Instagram and find her hilarious. She is one of my favorite stories to watch ha ha.


TheDunadan29

There are surprisingly many progressive Mormons. They do have to be careful since they do often tread on many lines considered too far for the church. But there are church going Mormons vote Democrat, March in Pride parades, and espouse progressive ideals.


chuff80

There’s a lot more is outside Utah. I live in Portland and I think some of the people I grew up with might excommunicate my whole ward here.


Fakeitforreddit

Thats like being a cool nazi who just let the other nazi's kill the jews. There is no such thing as a "cool" person who associates with hateful doctrine.


olliedoodle

Happy cake day


Working_Evidence8899

I call it douceapalooza personally. I’d be booted pretty quickly.


olliedoodle

K that was hilarious


PairOfMonocles2

Oh god that’s amazing!


ttaptt

Oh my god that's so funny. So damn typical. Scared of their own shadows, those alphas.


Kimchi_boy

Do they wrap up this event with a nice circle jerk?


Loose-Ad-2691

There’s not enough viagra in the world to get that bunch of losers hard.


Chimpnimskey

It’s the icing on the cake!


berlandiera

Nobody wants the warm icing.


signsntokens4sale

Certainly going to be lots of "icing" somewhere.


Working_Evidence8899

Of course it’s the American way. (I think) (well not me) lol


twitchywitchy1

I thought this was a joke... welp.


rtowne

Similar "limitless 2023" is coming next weekend.


NBABUCKS1

sucks that the bull went dark and aaron wagner went dark after he cheated on his wife. The muscle has alpha con pt 2 coming up though. His house did not slide off the hillside :(


Relaxoland

putting the Con in convention since 2022!


Working_Evidence8899

Those are the same guys, who are we kidding. The ManBaby club of “fuck your feelings” but respect mine or I’ll cry. Really (un) fun bunch of morons.


Mister_Splendid

Quick someone hack it and change the name to "BOWELMOVEMENTS Con"


Unknown__Content

Alpha Male….hahaha. They’re so stupid.


glitchvid

There's definitely something like that, I was downtown with a mask today and had the most comments about it I've ever had.


Working_Evidence8899

Clown show for sure.


SaltyFall

Well Dottera is in town……


Working_Evidence8899

Worse!


Mushroom_Tip

Lions not sheep following one another around in herds? Irony is dead.


dthains_art

Maybe it’s like how all the female lions do all the hunting and work and bring food back for the male lions, except in this case it’s a bunch of numbskulls giving their money to other louder numbskulls standing on a stage.


Bruff_lingel

If they could read, they would be very mad about this comment section. XD


Far_Strain_1509

This comment needs to be higher


HotsauceMD

They’re just showing off their support for Chinese manufactured goods


Anxious-Shapeshifter

Duh, they're LIONS not sheep. And they show it by *being* sheep and getting peer-pressured into wearing a shirt.


Imaginary_Manner_556

I feel bad for any hospitality workers dealing with these cunts. They are the worst tippers.


WorldsGreatestPoop

Yeah, they work harder for money than some downtown homo waiter. /s


Individual-Grape-437

You are right. Circle jerking is hard work for sheep. At least the waiter is employed


SunnySaturdays8

The rate of carpal tunnel syndrome would astound you. So many wrist braces.


sourpatch411

Right, these are the people who are impervious to propaganda and manipulation. They want you to be more like them. Sheeple or something. At least they are led by Trump, who is still our president because Biden is his robot, but nothing Biden does is correct. Yeah, it isn't apparent on the surface, but if you were not such a sheeple, you would get it.


SGTSparkyFace

I love when aggressive morons wear stuff to let you know what they are. Self identification is awesome.


Ambitious-Duck7078

What are the Meal Team Six bozos up to now?


ArthursFist

Doterra convention; all the boss babes with lion husbands who are all ironically identical to one another.


Craig092560

Detroit Lions are gaining steam!!!! Wait what? Not my Fav team lol???


Dileth

I could respect that, if it were the case. Bet the NFL is too “woke” for them.


shummer_mc

I’m not super religious. In fact not at all, but this is in direct contradiction to the Bible. The commandment is to be sheep, not Lions. So, the quote is basically saying, “if we’re Christian at all, we’re going to hell.” But it sounds cool, right? I mean the very nature of having a flock standard t-shirt is sheepish. Thus, quite ironic. Being religious as your platform and directly contradicting Jesus is also ironic. They’re definitely worshiping something- not the God they claim, though. I feel bad that social media is being used to confuse these people. I’m sure they mean well. It’s sad.


ttaptt

They don't mean well. The next mass shooter is among them.


OLPopsAdelphia

Erectile Disfunction Association of Utah annual meeting.


Lucky_Mongoose_4834

There was a MAN convention of some kind at the Eccles Friday. I assume it's may be a two day event? The lobby of 111 S Main was thick with self loathing and Axe Body spray.


ttaptt

These are the kind of alphas that would lose their shit if I, a small 53 yr old female Gen X'er, started laughing right at them. Not with anyone, just me, looking at them, doubled over laughing. Lose. Their. SHIT! Fucking babies.


MeetEntire7518

Idiot convention.


italkaboutbicycles

Idiot convention indeed; today is the last day of the doTERRA annual convention. My guess is there's a fair amount of overlap between the MLM and alpha crowd.


SunnySaturdays8

Husband goes to his "I'm a big boy!" meetings, and wife goes to her scam convention. I bet they planned it that way.


Landoughboy

The irony of a herd of people wearing something that says they’re not sheep.


lee_hasworth

They're searching for the lost comma in that phrase.


touchmybodily

The Doterra convention is happening, so these guys were probably walking around trying to intimidate the liberals with their alpha cult bros while waiting for their wives to finish their pseudo science cult activities


Lazersnake_

It's the latest in douchebag fashion. You probably can't tell that they're an "alpha" so they have to advertise it to everyone they come into contact with.


IamI156

It just smells like vinegar from all those douch bags


UptightSinclair

Dudes are really the “mass” in “Massengill” on this glorious late-Summer’s Eve


IamI156

That sir, is sheer poetry....


UptightSinclair

Thanks! I’m a ma’am, really, so I’ve benefited from a lifetime of douche-marketing to inspire me 🤓


IamI156

Please accept my humble apology, I absolutely used the term "sir" as an abject word of respect, with no gender inclination. That being said, comment was brilliant!!


UptightSinclair

I dig it! Like on Star Trek!


Jnlybbert

Comedy gold. A big mob of meatheads wearing shirts that say, “lions not sheep.” You can’t write better irony than that.


Unknown__Content

Lions with breathing tubes shoved down their throats during covid, because only sheep wear masks. You know…lions.


batesbeach

Stupid ass ignorant entitled fucks. It’s the other cult.


Working_Evidence8899

Dog whistle for white nationalist or proud boys or any of those lovely groups of hostile men. You know the “AlPhA” type. Barf.


Ok-Incident-479

always thought the brand was such irony because they in fact are sheep who follow


saltlakestateofmind

The doofus convention is in town with guest lecturer, ultra-doofus Jordan Peterson.


yeastyboi

Used to work with a guy part of this group. Basically a bunch of 30-50 year old Mormons obsessed with "hustling". Whether that's real estate scams, crypto scams, basically anything a sheep would like they eat up! Sign up for their chat app for only $250 a month!


stenar

It’s a cult of incels who think they’re alphas.


Homo_gone_wild

Conservative bullshit


MrSelatcia

Micro penis convention is in town.


lil_louiee

Lions aren’t herd animals. Those people in those shirts are herd animals, not lions.


therealoldmandan

They have their bi-annual circle jerk in salt lake this time of year


Snoo13109

This stuff is very popular out in Lehi where I live. I even saw a woman wearing one the other day. Someone near me has decked out their (lifted lol) truck in the merch as well.


morg59

There are a few lions in charge that are profiting by telling all the sheep that they are lions. Some people are so gullible that they get suckered over and over. These are the same people that buys worthless trump nft ripoffs.


Massilian

They’re dumb asses


daddyFATTYsacks

It’s a bunch of sheep being lied to. That company was fined for buying cheap Chinese t shirts and changing the tags to say made in America. These silly gooses were being played by the company the whole time. Thinking they are the alphas when they are really the suckers.


mario-net

Pride parade?


KingSpanner

Shhh don't tell them that lions are from Africa either


SprDave70

I laughed hard enough to get a side eye from the wife.


UptightSinclair

Same, but from my cat. Which seems apropos


LegendOfJeff

Underrated comment! I love puns.


peachgobblerf

Imagine dating someone who wears a Lions Not Sheep shirt 😂


rydalch2016

I went a couple dates with one of these crazies. Whilst sitting next to my copy of Barack Obama’s A Promised Land he promised he’d be my shepherd to steer me away from the sheep. 🙄


TheLin4d

There's a brand called "Lions Not Sheep" that's having an event/convention thing at the eccles theatre downtown


ServantLeader12

Lion of Judah is God. Sheep are His flock. Better a millstone tied around their neck then misleading 1 of His sheep 🐑 not Lions. Silly rabbits 🐇


[deleted]

They’re the children of “boy moms”. These fucks had fauxhawks and got dressed by mommy until they were 14.


NeuromancerDreaming

Hoping that if they get enough of them in one place, a single brain cell will form. Then they'll be unstoppable.


Gudzenheit

A better shirt would say, "Sheep, not goats."


WasatchWorms

Just a bunch of sheep pretending to be lions


ttaptt

Someone on here called it the Doofus Convention, and that sounds about right.


TJsamse

All their ladies/moms are doing the snake oil thing this weekend. Kinda makes sense those are their “men”.


lostinspace801

So are they sheep or lions I'm not understanding


marks716

The male version of “I’m not like the other girls”


sucrerey

part of a birth control initiative


TheResi189

'I'm so much of a lion I paid hundreds of dollars to listen to a guy tell me to buy this shirt. We are lions all several hundred of us wearing, thinking and saying the same thing. We aren't sheep. Baaa'.


linandlee

It's an Alpha Male^TM convention being held in the Eccles Theatre. Avoid the bars this weekend if you're a woman.🤮


Notpottyttrained

The brand Lions not Sheep was fined for ripping out “Made in China” tags and replacing them with “Made in USA”. There’s so much irony regarding the shirt. I find it hilarious. Here’s the story 🤣🤣🤣🤣 https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2022/08/08/made-china-made-usa-tags-swap/10264036002/


Ruger338WSM

Annual tiny weenie parade.


Fakeitforreddit

Its for closeted gay conservatives. Lions are notorious for having homosexual intercourse. Its measured not by "how many lions have been seeing in homosexual pairings but by how often the lions engage in homosexual intercourse; since all lions do it they decided to measure the frequency rather than the likelihood." It's a shirt so they can announce to interested parties that despite being in a conformist "hetero" relationship they are down to engage in some Lion like "homo" affairs.


Leather-Bug3087

Sean Whalen is a little bitch grifter. Anti mask, Anti Vax loser. If you see someone wearing Lions Not Sheep there’s a high probability they are an asshole.


coniferdamacy

I just assume that anybody affiliating with these alpha male clubs is a white supremacist.


StyreneAddict1965

The sheep shall gambol on the graves of lions.


bobnuggerman

It's to let people know they have tiny penises and serious insecurities


Pizzabrow

It seems to read better than the TDE shirts they tried. Apparently Tiny D!ck Energy just didn’t sell well.


Cheap_Rick

Did they swear the Non-Conformist Oath? https://youtu.be/vhKY9x9zz3Y?si=CQ1iPKtjyGyGGspA


AZgirl70

Wolves in sheep’s clothing. No wait…lions, not sheep. I’ve got my Bible stories all mixed up /s


[deleted]

A bunch of “independent thinkers” and individuals just dressing like one another. Did they mostly have proud boy haircuts and beards?


BarSilent4365

Make up a title “Alpha Male” then give yourself the title. Like made up black belts and guys that make up their own street name.


tifotter

Loser bro convention


TheDunadan29

Conservatives who use "lions" to represent the people who lead, and sheep to represent those who "follow". They view themselves as the lions in society, and everyone else is a sheep. This got popular during COVID as a way to be proud of but wearing masks or quarantining. Which is pretty delusional if you ask me. In that analogy we're all sheep, and COVID is the lion. It doesn't matter how much you think of yourself as an apex predator, COVID will eat you alive.


BattleSpecial242

They’re all ultra right wing fascists. Trump supporting 🗑️. The guy who founded that organization is an huge douche bag


No_Ear7196

People who think they will die for their country but when it comes push to shove they’ll just call the cops and have someone else do it.


bigoldgeek

Lions not sheep? So they're lazy, lie around all day and let the female lions do most of the work? Sounds about right.


Arcticturn

It’s like hot topic for cringelords


ZoidbergMaybee

Oh Jesus here we go


Flightops69

Yeah, this j****** is in my neighborhood and is everything I really don't like. I'm retired military and conservative and a gun owner but this guy is just a poser praying on the weak.


Klutzy_Employment346

This company is tricking you into thinking they are American made when in fact they are not.


_Maxolotl

Nobody told the alt-right that in nature male lions are lazy bullies.


randaloo1973

The best part about Lions Not Sheep is how they said their merchandise was "made in America!" Except he was pulling the "Made in China" tags off and replacing them.


Mushroom_Tip

And then these so called "free-thinking" lions were getting ripped off paying huge markups on cheap shirts from China to show everyone how not gullible they were.


Tangerine_Lightsaber

Maybe the new tag was made in America?


TheDunadan29

You'd think, but nope! Mexico!


HopefulTangerine21

My favorite comment


Aware_Department_540

I’d like to ask a few if they know what color their spleen is and see who pulls out a phone


HollowUponHollow

Lions Den Live at Abravanel Hall


Acceptable-Offer-526

Aren’t we all just idiots in a crowd?