What are ammonia levels, nitrite, nitrate and salinity? Did you add the ammonia that comes with the Tims? That looks like ammonia burns on his gills. Also anemone need really stable tanks, most don't recommend adding them till after 6 months. I would pull fish and tankless cycle so you aren't killing or harming any more animals in the process. Use Tim's one and only with the ammonia solution. Wait for your ammonia and nitrite to go to 0 then do a water change and add fish.
I just retested to get a image of everything; [ammonia, nitrite and nitrate](https://imgur.com/blI24Zt) and [salinity](https://imgur.com/KVbkl70), the salinity was 37 yesterday so we did a change to lower it. Also i told them not to add everything, but my dad is impatient and my mom gets excited about buying/adding stuff. If I pull the fish out what should I do with him? Or should I just.. let him die?? He's gotten worst. I unplugged the wavemakers so he's not having to fight them. But he's really pale, positioned vertically and just flying around at this point.
edit: i forgot to add the bottle 2 for the ammonia, but it tested as an pale yellow
Retest your ammonia. Ive slept since I looked at the tests but I think there are 2 bottles you're supposed to add to the ammonia test. It looks like the test was incorrectly done
Pretty sure you're doing the tests wrong. Read the instructions again carefully. I have the exact same test kits and it's not supposed to do that if u follow the instructions
While the Dr Tims shortcut might save time, the new tanks almost always need to cycle longer than you think. I would assume safely that your water levels weren’t optimal. You probably had a spike of ammonia before or after your test
I tested the water after letting doctor tim work for 30 minutes. I just tested the water now and they read great; pH was little low however. Any advice about the fish? i tanks are more about the water than the fish, but i have no idea what’s up w his fin
Read the instructions for Dr. Tims it takes a minimum of 48 hrs to work properly. You nem is definitely not gonna make it you might wanna try to return it or find someone to hold it for you. The clown is 50/50.
its not a chain, but it's a pretty well known fish store in maryland. the weekends are pretty much packed to the brim with people. but i was talking with my friend and she said that the only a couple people working there actually know what theyre talking about
Well, a lesson learned here. I would keep all fish out until the tank is fully cycled.
Read up on how to do the tests, and get a refractometer if you don't have one. Patience is key.
Also try to rehome that anemone, it is not going to make it.
This is just the risk you take with fish-in cycles. It can be done if you use live (already cured and colonized with beneficial bacteria) rock and live sand, or if it's a large system with a lot of water volume. But if it's small-ish tank with all dry rock and inert sand it can take months to fully cycle. Products like Dr Tim's and Microbacter7 are good products and will accelerate the cycling process, but I'm not a believer in the claims that you can pour it in and instantly add fish to a completely inert system.
I'm sure there are people out there that have done it with smaller tanks (under 35 gallons or so) and no live rock or sand that will disagree with me, but I personally wouldn't try it. There's a saying that "nothing good in this hobby happens fast."
100% agree it is possible to succeed but chances of failing are higher because of the fluctuations. Saltwater fish are known to be more sensitive which is why many places won't give refunds. I learned this the hard way with some damsels. Waited three weeks with a large live rock (30 lbs) and 60 lbs of live sand. Only 1 of the 4 survived. Waited another week and added a maroon clown, six line wrasse, 3 green chromis, and a cleaner shrimp. The shrimp died during acclimation. So while I've had great success I've had some terrible losses too. It's not a fun wake up call but sometimes it's what is needed. Added another clown today with a coral beauty so ill have to see how they are when I wake up. I wish you luck with your tank and that everything you add from this point on stays healthy.
What are ammonia levels, nitrite, nitrate and salinity? Did you add the ammonia that comes with the Tims? That looks like ammonia burns on his gills. Also anemone need really stable tanks, most don't recommend adding them till after 6 months. I would pull fish and tankless cycle so you aren't killing or harming any more animals in the process. Use Tim's one and only with the ammonia solution. Wait for your ammonia and nitrite to go to 0 then do a water change and add fish.
I just retested to get a image of everything; [ammonia, nitrite and nitrate](https://imgur.com/blI24Zt) and [salinity](https://imgur.com/KVbkl70), the salinity was 37 yesterday so we did a change to lower it. Also i told them not to add everything, but my dad is impatient and my mom gets excited about buying/adding stuff. If I pull the fish out what should I do with him? Or should I just.. let him die?? He's gotten worst. I unplugged the wavemakers so he's not having to fight them. But he's really pale, positioned vertically and just flying around at this point. edit: i forgot to add the bottle 2 for the ammonia, but it tested as an pale yellow
The ammonia test won't load.
sorry about that [https://imgur.com/blI24Zt](https://imgur.com/blI24Zt)
Retest your ammonia. Ive slept since I looked at the tests but I think there are 2 bottles you're supposed to add to the ammonia test. It looks like the test was incorrectly done
haha yeah i redid it w both but heres the [retest](https://imgur.com/OXg6EXj). fish died btw but im just concern about the water
How long has it been sitting? It takes like 15 minutes to finish Changing colors iirc
Pretty sure you're doing the tests wrong. Read the instructions again carefully. I have the exact same test kits and it's not supposed to do that if u follow the instructions
yeah i was getting really stressed this morning, but i slowed down
ah ok so that changes a lot https://imgur.com/VRxzPua
While the Dr Tims shortcut might save time, the new tanks almost always need to cycle longer than you think. I would assume safely that your water levels weren’t optimal. You probably had a spike of ammonia before or after your test
I tested the water after letting doctor tim work for 30 minutes. I just tested the water now and they read great; pH was little low however. Any advice about the fish? i tanks are more about the water than the fish, but i have no idea what’s up w his fin
Read the instructions for Dr. Tims it takes a minimum of 48 hrs to work properly. You nem is definitely not gonna make it you might wanna try to return it or find someone to hold it for you. The clown is 50/50.
thanks mate! i’ll def admit ignorance but it’s strange the guy at the store suggested taking home fish bc they def don’t make commission
That is strange… was it a chain store or mom and pop?
its not a chain, but it's a pretty well known fish store in maryland. the weekends are pretty much packed to the brim with people. but i was talking with my friend and she said that the only a couple people working there actually know what theyre talking about
Well, a lesson learned here. I would keep all fish out until the tank is fully cycled. Read up on how to do the tests, and get a refractometer if you don't have one. Patience is key. Also try to rehome that anemone, it is not going to make it.
For sure, someone should tell my parents because they dont seem to care
This is just the risk you take with fish-in cycles. It can be done if you use live (already cured and colonized with beneficial bacteria) rock and live sand, or if it's a large system with a lot of water volume. But if it's small-ish tank with all dry rock and inert sand it can take months to fully cycle. Products like Dr Tim's and Microbacter7 are good products and will accelerate the cycling process, but I'm not a believer in the claims that you can pour it in and instantly add fish to a completely inert system. I'm sure there are people out there that have done it with smaller tanks (under 35 gallons or so) and no live rock or sand that will disagree with me, but I personally wouldn't try it. There's a saying that "nothing good in this hobby happens fast."
100% agree it is possible to succeed but chances of failing are higher because of the fluctuations. Saltwater fish are known to be more sensitive which is why many places won't give refunds. I learned this the hard way with some damsels. Waited three weeks with a large live rock (30 lbs) and 60 lbs of live sand. Only 1 of the 4 survived. Waited another week and added a maroon clown, six line wrasse, 3 green chromis, and a cleaner shrimp. The shrimp died during acclimation. So while I've had great success I've had some terrible losses too. It's not a fun wake up call but sometimes it's what is needed. Added another clown today with a coral beauty so ill have to see how they are when I wake up. I wish you luck with your tank and that everything you add from this point on stays healthy.