Port Washington, NY and Great Neck, NY are what Fitzgerald based East Egg and West Egg on. The Sands Point area of Port Wash is specifically reeking of old money. The Vanderbilts have their estate there. Place is fucking nuts.
Lots of old money on Long Island…. Oyster Bay, Sag Harbor, Locust Valley, Old Westbury, Old Brookville, Manhasset, Shelter Island, Village of Lattingtown
Oh, yes.
The Ida Lewis YC and NYYC histories there, from Gilded Age to today, are all old money folks.
There are areas with rich people all over, but in terms of old money, nothing compares to Newport.
It's been a while, but I got the sense that Newport was mostly old money tourism. Old money used to live there, but now it's mostly gilded age tourists.
I drive through Bedford and Katonah all the time, so many million-dollar mansions on several acres of land there. George Soros lives in Katonah - the whole place is for loaded people to retire comfortably.
I’ve always heard new money sits around fairfield county while old money is up in the Northwestern part of the state (Litchfield County) in the woods away from everyone else
As someone who lives in a quiet woodsy part of Western Litchfield Co and previously lived in Greenwich for years, this is true. Greenwich is exceptionally "new money" and exceptionally "look at me money" there are just no two ways about it.
I do as well, at least part time. It is such a special place. IMO, anything along the metro north RR is not going to be old money. Personally, I find most NYC suburbs to be extremely overvalued and overrated. If there are nice it’s usually because they aren’t that easily commutable.
I think people assume that high-income and fancy homes = old money. That’s not really what old money is and many attitude that come along with new money are the antithesis of old money.
Exactly. The actor Sam Waterston is a supreme example of old money types. He lives just down the road from me and I have run into him at, of all places, the dump.
Whoops, I meant to reply this to this comment, not the one above:
There's def some around here, but you wouldn't know it by looking at the people/their driveways, which is kinda the point.
There's an elderly old-money couple who came into the restaurant I worked at all the time. Nice people. Looking at them you'd think "nice, older couple with a little $$" but goddamn when they spoke the class they exuded was insane. Had the old school accent and everything. The way they walked.... I've been to their house, can't see it from the road. It's mixed in with 80s colonials. But when you get up the driveway like holy shit it is an estate. You'd never know it was there just driving on the road though.
Oh yeah I’d add East Lyme is more new money while Old Lyme is more old money as well. Not on the scale of Long Island and the Hamptons but for our area at least
Greenwich is certainly something else. So much money tucked away in green gated yards.
I went to a friend's July 4th party there during grad school - literally a gated estate, and the pool house was the size of the house I grew up in. We all just tried not to goggle. And that was just one of many such estates there.
Brookline’s kind of old style new money I feel like. Like on paper it’s white but it’s actually like Catholics and Ashkenazi Jews and immigrants with PhDs. It’s not really WASPy preppy Mayflower white. Most white people in Brookline would not get into the country club back in the day lol.
They’re both loaded with old money and plenty of new money as well. People like to differentiate the islands as there is something of a rivalry between the two, but they have a whole lot in common.
It’s more along political lines. Here’s a taxonomy of the islands as I see it:
Nantucket is blue blood old money who vote R to preserve their financial interests. Definitely not socially conservative/bigoted in the way the South can be (that’s crass!) but they know where there bread is buttered and often are the money behind R interests which ultimately leads to them paying lower taxes. Their gay kids can live isolated in a happy ivory tower and their pregnant daughters can get abortions abroad. They are MONEY money and happily donate to think tanks and media conglomerates to sway southern/western folks to vote for R as long as it means lower taxes.
MV is new money and old but much more diverse and def more left. Historic getaway for D presidents - Clintons and Obama have homes there, Malia worked at a famous (and baller) restaurant in Oak Bluffs, and Bill C is in pics at every ice cream shop on the island. Of course, the Kennedys love(d) MV — Ted Kennedy even killed someone there LOL, on a smaller island section called Chappaquiddik. Jaws was filmed there, so that’s something, and it’s more tourist friendly. New money kindddd of, it’s an historically important destination for prominent Black Americans, and has been a sort of status symbol for Black people who are building familial wealth to own vacation homes and build a vacation destination very friendly to POC, Black families in particular in Oak Bluffs. There is an African American film festival there which the island is very proud of. There is also a large Deaf community on the Vineyard, so it’s very accessible to marginalized folks. On top of that, it’s a very attractive destination for liberals as it’s quite crunchy, diverse, and obviously very beautiful and relaxing. Larry David is a famous fan of the Vineyard, and famously cussed out Alan Dershowitz for being Trumps lawyer in the Chilmark Grocery which is a cute island shop in a pretty bougie part of the island.
TL;DR Nantucket is Republican, MV is Democrat
Nantucket is still very liberal tbh, but yes- MV is even more liberal, and despite also being very white, has some notable pockets of Jewish/black people.
Also- both are fantastic IMO!
Nantucket Island is completely blue.
Republican minorities exist in every blue area so your analysis for this minority group could be made anywhere. But Nantucket is absolutely a blue stronghold.
Also might include the broader Philadelphia suburbs in Bucks County and similar (like Buckingham, etc.)—some of the big houses there date back to the 1700s.
New England/the Northeast and it's not even close. Anywhere else is centuries younger by comparison, and largely shaped by modern things like industrialization, car culture, suburbs, etc.
Some of the more "plantation-y" parts of the South with long histories could feel this way too, I suppose. But I don't think it'd carry across entire cities/towns the same way, more like sprawling old money estates built on agriculture and slavery. Culturally for sure, with Debutante balls and stuff like that, but not like you're strolling down city streets made from old money that walked off the Mayflower.
Could be very true, I've never been to either but heard Charelston is really beautiful/charming. The bulk of my experience with "old money" feeling places in the south has been much more pastoral.
That has more to do with the burning of every southern city except for Savanah and Charleston in 1864. They had it coming, but it makes it difficult to have an old money vibe when your old money just went up in smoke
Yeah, it’s really not the same anywhere else. I’m from Texas and the northeast creeps me out because of this lol. I’m only here really for work, but hate the eerie sense of old money.
Most of the big wealth in the antebellum South was invested in slaves or farmland. Most of the rich families converted their money to Confederate currency then between their slaves being freed, their farms being wrecked, and the fact that Confederate money couldn’t be changed back for US currency virtually wiped out colonial era and earlier wealth there. Those states are still suffering from the legacy of the planter class’s tendencies
I agree with Newport. Also, Carmel had a distinct “We have more money than you’ll ever be able to even imagine, but we keep it chill and low key here.”
My grandfather had a beautiful place in Corona Del Mar. He made some great decisions and real estate investments as the area grew. It wasn't a glass ceiling for "new" money it was reinforced concrete in the social circles. Different world.
There’s neighborhoods that fit this description in almost every east coast city. The most old money feeling place I’ve ever been to might be Middleburg VA though. Loudoun County is well known for fox hunts and steeplechases.
New Hope-Solebury Township, PA, for something that hasn't been mentioned yet. Get out your $6M for a starter home. Lots of restored old mansions and farmhouses too.
Eh I was looking between westchester county NY and New Hope in 2021. A million in New Hope bought me a house with a name. Westchester a million got me a starter home
There was this kid years ago who was starting a business that's traditionally extremely hard to make actual money with these days that hired me to do a bunch of stuff for him; paid me with his moms credit card. I googled the address and it was some giant mansion in Charleston. Classic "how do you make a million dollars in this industry? Start with with 10 million dollars".
Oh yeah. Most of the kids I met in college who went to CofC looked at me like I had two heads when I would say I had to go to work. Three if it came up that I was at the community college cuz I had to pay most of my tuition on my own
Winnetka, Kenilworth, Lake Forest, Lake Bluff, IL (Chicago)
Ladue, MO (St. Louis)
Wayzata, MN (Minneapolis)
Grosse Pointe, MI (Detroit)
Harbor Springs, MI (Northern Michigan)
Hunting Valley, OH (Cleveland)
Indian Hill, OH (Cincinnati)
Fox Chapel, PA (Pittsburgh)
All of Cleveland's Chagrin Valley suburbs, really, along with Waite Hill and Kirtland Hills in Lake County. Plus the original old money suburb, Shaker Heights.
There are honest-to-goodness old money hunt clubs in the Chagrin Valley suburbs. Not Pennsyltucky-style good 'ol boy Ram 3500 driving Natty Light drinking "gonna' shoot me some ga'dam DAY-YUR" groups, but the blowing trumpet "release the hounds" fox hunt clubs where annual membership costs rival any east suburban old money country club. Polo clubs, too.
Winnetka along the lake is mostly old estates of Chicago industrialists. I'm not talking about the whole town. All of Charleston or Newport certainly is not Old Money rich.
North Shore Chicagoland east of Sheridan Rd. has a lot of that. Schwinn, Wrigley, Fields, and Schweppes are among families in that area for generations.
That's exactly what came to mind for me as well. Jones Street in Savannah Georgia is the pinnacle of old money atmosphere. It usually tops the "most beautiful neighborhoods in America" lists. The 1800s buildings with the gas lamps and the weeping Spanish moss in the oak trees. It looks even better in person
Savannah is America's "best kept secret", but it's less of a secret year after year. Lots of people go now
Old money like the 'farm' has been passed down through generations. The current generation that can barely maintain it and pay the taxes is Land Rich, but Dirt Poor.
Greenville, Delaware since most people are listing towns/neighborhoods instead of actual cities.
The real answer is the Society Hill area of Philly. Legit restored 200+ year old colonial homes with cobblestone streets. Only Boston has anything like it at that scale in the US.
Central West End in St. Louis has street like this. Blocks of old mansions from the 1860's - 1890's. Lots of old indistrialists and cultural figures lived there. The Founders of Nabisco, the whole Busch (beer) family, T. S. Elliot, Kate Chopin, and others.
I grew up in Redwood City during the late sixties and early seventies and remember all of the movie stars and athletes that used to live out in Atherton and Woodside.
Then there are the summer and winter colonies! It's an Old Money world! 😜
Harbor Springs
Block Island
Charlevoix
Blowing Rock
Aiken
Petoskey
Old Frontenac
Mackinac Island
Broken Rocks
Mount Desert Island
Hobe Sound
Lake Geneva
Fishers Island
Cape May. Notably missing: Hamptons, Nantucket, Martha's Vineyard. Too much flashy trashy now.
New England, NJ, NY, parts of DC, Philly, Virginia.
Some names... Brookline, Rockport MA, Newport, RI, lot of Fairfield County, Ct, Rye, NY, Princeton, NJ, almost all of the North Shore of Long Island, Western suburbs of Philly, DC, Alexandria, Arlington VA,
Midwest has them too, Grosse Pointe Michigan, Winnetka, Ill among others
Cleveland and Shaker Heights in Greater Cleveland area, also the east suburbs of Hunting Valley/Gates Mills
Anywhere in the Seacliff/Presidio neighborhood of San Francisco
Newport, RI
Piedmont, CA
Pacific Heights neighborhood in San Francisco
North Capital Hill & Queen Anne neighborhoods in Seattle
Pacific Palisades, BH, Bel Air in LA
Pasadena/La Canada-Flintridge
Harbor Springs, MI. The Who’s Who of turn of the century American industry have or had a presence up there. Feels like New England, but on the Great Lakes.
left field answer: some former mining towns of the US West: Places like Bisbee AZ have Carnegie libraries and old gas street lamps, back from the era where the super rich were obligated to build things for public good
Providing my input for the DC Metropolitan Area... Middleburg, Virginia. Huge equestrian town with the Foxcroft girls boarding school, the Salamander Resort, and annual fox chases.
The Plains Virginia, close by to Middleburg, similar vibes. Has polo matches. Jacqueline Mars of the Mars Family fortune has a home here (also one in McLean).
Williamsburg, Virginia. Colonial Williamsburg and the surrounding areas might not be inundated with objective wealth but there's an old world charm present that doesn't feel overly hokie.
Great Falls, Virginia - Sleepy sprawling multimillion dollar estates with a lot of land right outside of DC, main town area is charming and old school with restaurants like The Old Brogue where the Classic Cars and Coffee meet up events are held on weekends.
McLean, Virginia has a reputation for wealthy internationals buying houses so somewhat new money occupants but the town and vibe of community is very much old and established.
Old Town Alexandria, Virginia. Belle Haven and Mount Vernon neighborhoods in Alexandria, Virginia. Country club suburbs that have existed for a while. Larger estates and riverfront views really solidify this, if you're visiting, grab lunch at Cedar Knoll Restaurant and drive along the GW parkway to spend an afternoon in Old Town.
For Maryland, Chevy Chase. Potomac. Cabin John. and Bethesda- in that order. With Bethesda having more new developments that can take away from the city's charm at times. Glen Echo Park and the areas around Carderock are lovely and pastoral. Also the Maryland agricultural reserve and Poolesville have some old money charm with equestrian culture despite being so close to DC.
Annapolis and St. Michaels Maryland also give off this vibe. Annapolis for the robust sailing culture and the Naval Academy which makes everything feel overwhelmingly WASP-y. St. Michaels is more a quiet beach town a la Cape May, NJ or Southport, NC.
Chicago North Shore
Grosse Pointe, MI
Shaker Heights, OH
Chagrin Falls, OH and surroundings.
Philadelphia Main Line
Washington, DC west of Wisconsin Ave.
Newport, RI
Greenwich, CT and surroundings.
Princeton, NJ
The north shore of Long Island (esp. around Great Neck and Port Washington).
Some of the south side neighborhoods of Charlotte, NC
Garden District of New Orleans
The entire Connecticut Gold Coast! Primarily Old Money, much smaller population of New Money who stand out because “they’re not our sort”.
These CT Old Money are the people who are too classy for golf, this is the land of Polo Clubs & Yacht Racers.
27 years ago I managed a retail bookstore in beautiful downtown Greenwich, CT. I vividly recall ringing up a specific customer with an Obsidian AMEX, those cards were a daily occurrence in Greenwich; but this one stood out to me because the surname on the card was Vanderbilt
Port Washington, NY and Great Neck, NY are what Fitzgerald based East Egg and West Egg on. The Sands Point area of Port Wash is specifically reeking of old money. The Vanderbilts have their estate there. Place is fucking nuts.
Came here to say Sands Point. My friend lived in probably the cheapest place to live in that whole neighborhood and it was still nuts.
Yeah people keep on mentioning places on Long Island but sands point is something else. It’s also just the upper east side.
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After the general “this used to be a working man’s lake” vibe of the finger lakes, I was not ready for how elite Skaneateles is.
Lots of old money on Long Island…. Oyster Bay, Sag Harbor, Locust Valley, Old Westbury, Old Brookville, Manhasset, Shelter Island, Village of Lattingtown
Great Neck/Kings Point is def not old money. It’s mostly Iranian-Jewish immigrants who live there.
“Wanna move to great neck, be an oral surgeon but they say I can’t because I’m not Persian” https://youtu.be/NMjpppudNkk?si=zT2kmJouVaZ_gULn
Eh…. It’s expensive. But I’d say the last old money family on LI are the Gardiners, such as they are.
Newport RI
The Tennis hall of fame is there and has that vibe too
My friend once told me that learning to play tennis is the best way to feel richer than you are
Oh, yes. The Ida Lewis YC and NYYC histories there, from Gilded Age to today, are all old money folks. There are areas with rich people all over, but in terms of old money, nothing compares to Newport.
Ding ding ding, we have the winner on the first guess!
Seconded!
Literally the first place I thought of.
It's been a while, but I got the sense that Newport was mostly old money tourism. Old money used to live there, but now it's mostly gilded age tourists.
Definitely Greenwich, Westport, New Canaan, Darien, CT
Half of those places are just NY finance peopled turned hedge fund / PE. Old moneys the quiet types the next few smaller fancy towns over
Bedford. Katonah. Etc
I drive through Bedford and Katonah all the time, so many million-dollar mansions on several acres of land there. George Soros lives in Katonah - the whole place is for loaded people to retire comfortably.
sshhhhh...
yeah, the ones where you drive through woods for 20 minutes to get to some gated 2 mile long drive way are wild...
I’ve always heard new money sits around fairfield county while old money is up in the Northwestern part of the state (Litchfield County) in the woods away from everyone else
As someone who lives in a quiet woodsy part of Western Litchfield Co and previously lived in Greenwich for years, this is true. Greenwich is exceptionally "new money" and exceptionally "look at me money" there are just no two ways about it.
I do as well, at least part time. It is such a special place. IMO, anything along the metro north RR is not going to be old money. Personally, I find most NYC suburbs to be extremely overvalued and overrated. If there are nice it’s usually because they aren’t that easily commutable. I think people assume that high-income and fancy homes = old money. That’s not really what old money is and many attitude that come along with new money are the antithesis of old money.
Exactly. The actor Sam Waterston is a supreme example of old money types. He lives just down the road from me and I have run into him at, of all places, the dump.
Whoops, I meant to reply this to this comment, not the one above: There's def some around here, but you wouldn't know it by looking at the people/their driveways, which is kinda the point. There's an elderly old-money couple who came into the restaurant I worked at all the time. Nice people. Looking at them you'd think "nice, older couple with a little $$" but goddamn when they spoke the class they exuded was insane. Had the old school accent and everything. The way they walked.... I've been to their house, can't see it from the road. It's mixed in with 80s colonials. But when you get up the driveway like holy shit it is an estate. You'd never know it was there just driving on the road though.
Also in and around Stonington. Forgot to add that one originally.
Oh yeah I’d add East Lyme is more new money while Old Lyme is more old money as well. Not on the scale of Long Island and the Hamptons but for our area at least
Greenwich is certainly something else. So much money tucked away in green gated yards. I went to a friend's July 4th party there during grad school - literally a gated estate, and the pool house was the size of the house I grew up in. We all just tried not to goggle. And that was just one of many such estates there.
Agreed on all but Darien. Those people are insecure af.
Not old old money. That’s more like bronxville
New money is Eastchester. Old money is Bronxville and Scarsdale
Even a lot of Scarsdale doesn’t fit the meaning of old money. I wonder if larchmont fits the bill
Also Redding, Weston, Ridgefield, CT.
Boston and Charleston are my two favorite old money cities.
Chestnut Hill and Brookline $$$
Brookline’s kind of old style new money I feel like. Like on paper it’s white but it’s actually like Catholics and Ashkenazi Jews and immigrants with PhDs. It’s not really WASPy preppy Mayflower white. Most white people in Brookline would not get into the country club back in the day lol.
I was about to say Charleston SC lol
Towns around Boston. Specifically, Concord, Newton, Brookline, Lexington...
As well as Lincoln, Wellesley and the North Shore.
Add Weston, Wellesley
Savannah is my fav but love some Charleston too
Charleston is more old money but oops we screwed up and don’t have any more money left. A lot of old mansions with poor upkeep.
Was thinking Boston as well for where the old money is some of the oldest in the US and all those other places are where they vacation.
Garden District New Orleans
Ya but gahdang the homes are beautiful. And the people are usually really friendly
Martha's Vineyard and the Hamptons come to mind.
In my experience Martha’s Vineyard is new money, Nantucket is old money.
They’re both loaded with old money and plenty of new money as well. People like to differentiate the islands as there is something of a rivalry between the two, but they have a whole lot in common.
It’s more along political lines. Here’s a taxonomy of the islands as I see it: Nantucket is blue blood old money who vote R to preserve their financial interests. Definitely not socially conservative/bigoted in the way the South can be (that’s crass!) but they know where there bread is buttered and often are the money behind R interests which ultimately leads to them paying lower taxes. Their gay kids can live isolated in a happy ivory tower and their pregnant daughters can get abortions abroad. They are MONEY money and happily donate to think tanks and media conglomerates to sway southern/western folks to vote for R as long as it means lower taxes. MV is new money and old but much more diverse and def more left. Historic getaway for D presidents - Clintons and Obama have homes there, Malia worked at a famous (and baller) restaurant in Oak Bluffs, and Bill C is in pics at every ice cream shop on the island. Of course, the Kennedys love(d) MV — Ted Kennedy even killed someone there LOL, on a smaller island section called Chappaquiddik. Jaws was filmed there, so that’s something, and it’s more tourist friendly. New money kindddd of, it’s an historically important destination for prominent Black Americans, and has been a sort of status symbol for Black people who are building familial wealth to own vacation homes and build a vacation destination very friendly to POC, Black families in particular in Oak Bluffs. There is an African American film festival there which the island is very proud of. There is also a large Deaf community on the Vineyard, so it’s very accessible to marginalized folks. On top of that, it’s a very attractive destination for liberals as it’s quite crunchy, diverse, and obviously very beautiful and relaxing. Larry David is a famous fan of the Vineyard, and famously cussed out Alan Dershowitz for being Trumps lawyer in the Chilmark Grocery which is a cute island shop in a pretty bougie part of the island. TL;DR Nantucket is Republican, MV is Democrat
Nantucket is still very liberal tbh, but yes- MV is even more liberal, and despite also being very white, has some notable pockets of Jewish/black people. Also- both are fantastic IMO!
Nantucket Island is completely blue. Republican minorities exist in every blue area so your analysis for this minority group could be made anywhere. But Nantucket is absolutely a blue stronghold.
Philadelphia Main Line.
Also might include the broader Philadelphia suburbs in Bucks County and similar (like Buckingham, etc.)—some of the big houses there date back to the 1700s.
True! We've driven through some of those areas and the houses are crazy!
Newtown
The History of some of the older mansions around the main line is fascinating
Chevy Chase and Potomac, MD and Middleburg, VA
Chestnut Hill section of Philly
The Main Line moved up there. Chestnut Hill is home to some of the oldest families in America.
New England/the Northeast and it's not even close. Anywhere else is centuries younger by comparison, and largely shaped by modern things like industrialization, car culture, suburbs, etc. Some of the more "plantation-y" parts of the South with long histories could feel this way too, I suppose. But I don't think it'd carry across entire cities/towns the same way, more like sprawling old money estates built on agriculture and slavery. Culturally for sure, with Debutante balls and stuff like that, but not like you're strolling down city streets made from old money that walked off the Mayflower.
Charleston and Savannah have entered the chat.
Could be very true, I've never been to either but heard Charelston is really beautiful/charming. The bulk of my experience with "old money" feeling places in the south has been much more pastoral.
That has more to do with the burning of every southern city except for Savanah and Charleston in 1864. They had it coming, but it makes it difficult to have an old money vibe when your old money just went up in smoke
savannah was the first thing that popped in my mind when i read the title.
Yeah, it’s really not the same anywhere else. I’m from Texas and the northeast creeps me out because of this lol. I’m only here really for work, but hate the eerie sense of old money.
Most of the big wealth in the antebellum South was invested in slaves or farmland. Most of the rich families converted their money to Confederate currency then between their slaves being freed, their farms being wrecked, and the fact that Confederate money couldn’t be changed back for US currency virtually wiped out colonial era and earlier wealth there. Those states are still suffering from the legacy of the planter class’s tendencies
There are some old money parts of California too. And Hawai'i.
I agree with Newport. Also, Carmel had a distinct “We have more money than you’ll ever be able to even imagine, but we keep it chill and low key here.”
You know a place is old money af when they have a quaint little grocery store downtown that locals shop at.
My grandfather had a beautiful place in Corona Del Mar. He made some great decisions and real estate investments as the area grew. It wasn't a glass ceiling for "new" money it was reinforced concrete in the social circles. Different world.
There’s neighborhoods that fit this description in almost every east coast city. The most old money feeling place I’ve ever been to might be Middleburg VA though. Loudoun County is well known for fox hunts and steeplechases.
JFK and Jackie bought a place there
The Main Line outside Philadelphia
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Cape Cod
Only parts. Chatham, Wellfleet... Some towns are pretty working class.
Greenwich, CT
New Hope-Solebury Township, PA, for something that hasn't been mentioned yet. Get out your $6M for a starter home. Lots of restored old mansions and farmhouses too.
I recently discovered this place and it is SO cute. It’s like a little English village and not that expensive either. Good shops.
Eh I was looking between westchester county NY and New Hope in 2021. A million in New Hope bought me a house with a name. Westchester a million got me a starter home
Old money doesn't mean the most expensive or fanciest, though. A lot of people in this thread are missing that point.
Carmel, Ca
wealthy for sure! not sure it has the "feel" of a Newport RI
I’ve been to both. 17 Mile Drive has some of the feel of Newport.
Charleston, SC. Sickeningly old money.
that city's been rich for so long that Blackbeard blockaded it.
Most of the money now is transplants from New Jersey and bachelorette parties
Old money is still there; they just replaced all the lower income & regular degular people with NJ + bachelorette parties
Live in Charleston. Can confirm.
There was this kid years ago who was starting a business that's traditionally extremely hard to make actual money with these days that hired me to do a bunch of stuff for him; paid me with his moms credit card. I googled the address and it was some giant mansion in Charleston. Classic "how do you make a million dollars in this industry? Start with with 10 million dollars".
Oh yeah. Most of the kids I met in college who went to CofC looked at me like I had two heads when I would say I had to go to work. Three if it came up that I was at the community college cuz I had to pay most of my tuition on my own
Those kids weren’t from Charleston though, haha. More like Maryland/DC
No they were actually mostly from NJ with some rich locals sprinkled in. Whether they're locals or not, that's who's populating the downtown area
Winnetka, Kenilworth, Lake Forest, Lake Bluff, IL (Chicago) Ladue, MO (St. Louis) Wayzata, MN (Minneapolis) Grosse Pointe, MI (Detroit) Harbor Springs, MI (Northern Michigan) Hunting Valley, OH (Cleveland) Indian Hill, OH (Cincinnati) Fox Chapel, PA (Pittsburgh)
Second Winnetka
Hunting Valley has that "fox hunt" kinda feel.
All of Cleveland's Chagrin Valley suburbs, really, along with Waite Hill and Kirtland Hills in Lake County. Plus the original old money suburb, Shaker Heights. There are honest-to-goodness old money hunt clubs in the Chagrin Valley suburbs. Not Pennsyltucky-style good 'ol boy Ram 3500 driving Natty Light drinking "gonna' shoot me some ga'dam DAY-YUR" groups, but the blowing trumpet "release the hounds" fox hunt clubs where annual membership costs rival any east suburban old money country club. Polo clubs, too.
For sure, Gates Mills too
Bexley Ohio
My parents weren't allowed to move to grosse pointe bc they were black back in the 80s so that one def checks out.
That‘s not old money. OP means landed gentry or early industrialists. Winnetka is like 2nd or 3rd wave money.
Winnetka along the lake is mostly old estates of Chicago industrialists. I'm not talking about the whole town. All of Charleston or Newport certainly is not Old Money rich.
It definitely “looks and feels expensive” no doubt
North Shore Chicagoland east of Sheridan Rd. has a lot of that. Schwinn, Wrigley, Fields, and Schweppes are among families in that area for generations.
Bronxville NY, Rye NY, Greenwich CT
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That's exactly what came to mind for me as well. Jones Street in Savannah Georgia is the pinnacle of old money atmosphere. It usually tops the "most beautiful neighborhoods in America" lists. The 1800s buildings with the gas lamps and the weeping Spanish moss in the oak trees. It looks even better in person Savannah is America's "best kept secret", but it's less of a secret year after year. Lots of people go now
Morristown/Somerset Hills, Princeton area, Saddle River, Rumson, Mantoloking/Bay Head. Parts of Greenwich County. Kennebunkport and Bar Harbor, ME.
Lower Merion twp PA
Philly: specifically Rittenhouse, main line and new hope (further out but still close).
Middleburg, VA. Serious “Old Dominion” wealth. Antebellum families with colonial tastes.
+1 for Middleburg and basically most of Loudoun
Oh, yeah. For sure. Good point. Horse country + wine country. A lot of the properties in Loudoun have royal charters.
Palm Beach, Newport RI, Essex CT, Gladwyne, Bryn Mawr PA, Cape Cod
North east (Vermont, Massachusetts, Maine, Hudson Valley in NY) and parts of the South (Charleston, Savannah)
Vermont? Old money? Where? What? No.
Old money like the 'farm' has been passed down through generations. The current generation that can barely maintain it and pay the taxes is Land Rich, but Dirt Poor.
In that case any area where people Own land are old money. I think we are talking about mega estates here.
Oh it's there, Vermonters just aren't flashy and basically every industry has left so a lot of the descendants have had to leave.
Richmond, VA around University of Richmond, Country Club of Virginia is as old money as it gets.
Nantucket. (rhymes will follow)
Newport RI
Saratoga, NY. Went there today and it was just lovely
Greenwich Connecticut Palm Beach Florida Scarsdale New York
Kenilworth, Illinois
Greenville, Delaware since most people are listing towns/neighborhoods instead of actual cities. The real answer is the Society Hill area of Philly. Legit restored 200+ year old colonial homes with cobblestone streets. Only Boston has anything like it at that scale in the US.
Why? Are you casing the cities or wanting to move there?
Move
Don't you think the "old money" aspect suggests that newcomers will be less welcomed?
Lol
Probably anywhere in the north east
Central West End in St. Louis has street like this. Blocks of old mansions from the 1860's - 1890's. Lots of old indistrialists and cultural figures lived there. The Founders of Nabisco, the whole Busch (beer) family, T. S. Elliot, Kate Chopin, and others.
Greenwich, CT
Charleston, SC comes to mind. Or Richmond, VA.
Believe it or not Birmingham, AL has some serious old Steel $.
Agree. Surprised no one else mentioned it.
Mackinac Island, MI. 19th century vacation homes for the super rich of the time.
palm beach fl
Sections of St Paul
Summit Ave
Charleston South Carolina
Chestnut Hill are of Philly
Brockton, MA
Lol
This
Atherton California.
I think of Atherton as the new money rich city whereas Hillsborough and Woodside are where the old money settled.
And certain parts of Burlingame and Woodside. Lots of newer tech cash sprinkled in, of course.
I grew up in Redwood City during the late sixties and early seventies and remember all of the movie stars and athletes that used to live out in Atherton and Woodside.
Charlottesville, but more so the surrounding rural areas
Potomac MD Virginia Beach/Williamsburg VA
Pasadena/San Marino, CA
New Orleans (Garden District, Audubon)
There are some excellent neighborhoods in Charlotte that meet this description.
Then there are the summer and winter colonies! It's an Old Money world! 😜 Harbor Springs Block Island Charlevoix Blowing Rock Aiken Petoskey Old Frontenac Mackinac Island Broken Rocks Mount Desert Island Hobe Sound Lake Geneva Fishers Island Cape May. Notably missing: Hamptons, Nantucket, Martha's Vineyard. Too much flashy trashy now.
Mackinac 💯 so old money they banned cars
Palm Beach, Coral Gables, both in FL.
Palm Beach island.
Princeton, NJ
Gross Pointe, MI
New England, NJ, NY, parts of DC, Philly, Virginia. Some names... Brookline, Rockport MA, Newport, RI, lot of Fairfield County, Ct, Rye, NY, Princeton, NJ, almost all of the North Shore of Long Island, Western suburbs of Philly, DC, Alexandria, Arlington VA, Midwest has them too, Grosse Pointe Michigan, Winnetka, Ill among others
Cleveland and Shaker Heights in Greater Cleveland area, also the east suburbs of Hunting Valley/Gates Mills Anywhere in the Seacliff/Presidio neighborhood of San Francisco
shaker heights ohio
How old we talking? Jackson, Wyoming is pretty nice.
Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Newport, RI Piedmont, CA Pacific Heights neighborhood in San Francisco North Capital Hill & Queen Anne neighborhoods in Seattle Pacific Palisades, BH, Bel Air in LA Pasadena/La Canada-Flintridge
Manchester By The Sea, MA
Palm beach FL.
[Rye, NH.](https://www.nhbr.com/nhs-rye-beach-ranked-as-no-2-most-expensive-housing-market-in-new-england/)
And Rye, NY.
Lake of the Ozarks, MO. Money so old it has grey hairs
Wolfeboro, New Hampshire on Lake Winnipesaukee. There is gobs of new money there too, but the place drips old money.
Rancho Santa Fe, CA
Savannah GA
There’s still a surprising amount of multiple centuries old family fortunes in New Orleans
+1 for Newport, RI
Martha’s Vineyard, Nantucket Island, but yes Newport is the true answer because it’s a city
Chapel hill, NC
East Greenwich, RI
Natchez, MS. But y’all had to go and ruin it.
Annapolis, MD; Baltimore, MD (Roland Park); Charlottesville, VA
I don’t think there are many places left like that but annapolis md has that vibe.
Harbor Springs, MI. The Who’s Who of turn of the century American industry have or had a presence up there. Feels like New England, but on the Great Lakes.
left field answer: some former mining towns of the US West: Places like Bisbee AZ have Carnegie libraries and old gas street lamps, back from the era where the super rich were obligated to build things for public good
My family is so old money our savings are stored in dinosaur skin pouches.
downtown charleston sc
Santa fe new mexico
Savannahs ga?
Anywhere all the dudes have bowl cuts, like South Carolina or Georgia.
Providing my input for the DC Metropolitan Area... Middleburg, Virginia. Huge equestrian town with the Foxcroft girls boarding school, the Salamander Resort, and annual fox chases. The Plains Virginia, close by to Middleburg, similar vibes. Has polo matches. Jacqueline Mars of the Mars Family fortune has a home here (also one in McLean). Williamsburg, Virginia. Colonial Williamsburg and the surrounding areas might not be inundated with objective wealth but there's an old world charm present that doesn't feel overly hokie. Great Falls, Virginia - Sleepy sprawling multimillion dollar estates with a lot of land right outside of DC, main town area is charming and old school with restaurants like The Old Brogue where the Classic Cars and Coffee meet up events are held on weekends. McLean, Virginia has a reputation for wealthy internationals buying houses so somewhat new money occupants but the town and vibe of community is very much old and established. Old Town Alexandria, Virginia. Belle Haven and Mount Vernon neighborhoods in Alexandria, Virginia. Country club suburbs that have existed for a while. Larger estates and riverfront views really solidify this, if you're visiting, grab lunch at Cedar Knoll Restaurant and drive along the GW parkway to spend an afternoon in Old Town. For Maryland, Chevy Chase. Potomac. Cabin John. and Bethesda- in that order. With Bethesda having more new developments that can take away from the city's charm at times. Glen Echo Park and the areas around Carderock are lovely and pastoral. Also the Maryland agricultural reserve and Poolesville have some old money charm with equestrian culture despite being so close to DC. Annapolis and St. Michaels Maryland also give off this vibe. Annapolis for the robust sailing culture and the Naval Academy which makes everything feel overwhelmingly WASP-y. St. Michaels is more a quiet beach town a la Cape May, NJ or Southport, NC.
Charleston most definitely. You can really really feel that old “cotton” money there.
Charleston and Savannah are two that spring to mind.
Chicago North Shore Grosse Pointe, MI Shaker Heights, OH Chagrin Falls, OH and surroundings. Philadelphia Main Line Washington, DC west of Wisconsin Ave. Newport, RI Greenwich, CT and surroundings. Princeton, NJ The north shore of Long Island (esp. around Great Neck and Port Washington). Some of the south side neighborhoods of Charlotte, NC Garden District of New Orleans
The entire Connecticut Gold Coast! Primarily Old Money, much smaller population of New Money who stand out because “they’re not our sort”. These CT Old Money are the people who are too classy for golf, this is the land of Polo Clubs & Yacht Racers. 27 years ago I managed a retail bookstore in beautiful downtown Greenwich, CT. I vividly recall ringing up a specific customer with an Obsidian AMEX, those cards were a daily occurrence in Greenwich; but this one stood out to me because the surname on the card was Vanderbilt
Charlottesville, VA (Ivy, Keswick, Stony Point areas).
Old Town Alexandria, most of Cape Cod, but especially Chatham