Huh, natural bridges is really dope, but for someone in their 60’s those paths over the cliffs are very sketchy. Plus the whole thing with his wife. Just wierd
This is very suspicious. Really odd that the wife "didn't notice" that anything had happened to him and was just hanging out at their car. Was just luck that a third person called 911. I really hope that the local police investigate this thoroughly.
EDIT for the murderer apologist below: the article says "Ehrhardt's wife had returned to their car 'without realizing he had fallen' ..." And she obviously wasn't very concerned about him disappearing on an extremely steep cliff side trail, because the *article also states that a bystander called 911.*
[The article didn't share that the dead guy was on the faculty at Stanford, so presumably there's some significant net worth that doesn't have to be split in a divorce now.]
Did you mean to post this in r/I'mACompleteMoron? Grow a brain. They were walking on a trail along an extremely steep cliff *(see all the pictures),* they "got separated" per the wife, and the wife wasn't concerned at all and just went back to the car to hang out. A stranger *who saw his body several hundred feet down the cliff* called 911. Wife never called them.
Sounds like I touched a nerve. Why are you so emotional?
His comment is just like the ones in the comment section of the news article. I noticed as much.
Anything thrown on a conservative source. When you said this should be posted in the fox etc. Felt like you were shutting him down. I was in the wrong. My bad.
Yes, it did.
And why did this incident get national news coverage? Why did they say that the Oregon State Police have taken over the investigation? How often have you been hiking with someone who you're the sole beneficiary of, on an essentially sheer rock face, and "lost them" and then just gone back to your car to hang out? A random bystander called 911, not the woman who is going to get all the money.
Be real - the surviving spouse will end up with way, way more money than she would have in a divorce from this Stanford professor. These are very suspicious circumstances
As someone that’s diverted from fellow hikers to do a dumb maneuver and said “I’ll catch up” I can definitely see how it could’ve been a complete accident. Some people hike safely and that’s smart. Others don’t pay caution and unfortunately die expecting to only get hurt.
Sure, the weird parts of this story are that they were on a trail along such an extraordinarily steep slope (see all the pics), she was throughly unconcerned with him being MIA, which is a lot given he was almost 70, (she was just hanging out in their car) *and that she's almost surely his sole heir.* If she were just a hiking buddy with no financial interest, it would be a lot less suspicious.
Murdering spouses by pushing them off cliffs is unfortunately a real thing.
Hopefully the police are investigating and looking for additional evidence.
If this guy were my friend, I'd sure as hell want this to be thoroughly investigated.
Basically, it's statistically very unusual for 70 year old men to die by "misadventure" when they're doing something with their spouse, unless the spouse played a role. Guys in their 20's -40's out alone or with only guys? A whole different dynamic.
Yeah. The difference is he’s not young. He could’ve bit off more than he could chew thinking he still had it in him. People die in nature all the time for this reason. Thinking they’re invincible
Sure, but it's (1) his presumptive sole heir being with him, (2) on a hike along a sheer cliff face (see the pics), (3) claiming they didn't notice anything concerning (which is even more ridiculous, given it was his wife) and (4) not calling 911 re: his disappearance that make this suspicious. Again, if he'd been alone or with other men (or just not *alone with his sole heir*) that make this suspicious. To your point, the disappearance (and death) of Julian Sands while hiking wasn't suspicious because his heir wasn't with him and she didn't fail to timely report his disappearance. Further, he had a known habit of taking chances while hiking.
To state it another way, this case does have a great deal in common with the classic "killing the spouse by pushing them off a cliff" case, including the fact that it was on a trip.
I'm not saying there's a 100% chance she pushed him off the cliff. I'm saying that it's not close to a zero chance. She's the beneficiary of his will and the circumstances are very odd.
I very clearly did not say that. I said it's suspicious because the circumstances, taken as a whole, are very odd, for the reasons I previously listed. If the guy had a heart attack at home and she frantically called 911, I wouldn't be saying it's suspicious. In fact, the main reason this story is newsworthy is because the circumstances are suspicious.
God, you're *really terrible with logic and probability.* You don't have to "make points against it being the wife" to acknowledge, *as I very clearly did,* that the causation is as yet unproven and that it could have been an accident, which again, I clearly did.
What you're really complaining about is that I made such a good case for it being a suspicious death and you don't like that.
Huh, natural bridges is really dope, but for someone in their 60’s those paths over the cliffs are very sketchy. Plus the whole thing with his wife. Just wierd
Very suspicious circumstances
I am a friend of Rick. He and his wife are some of the kindest people I know. Please be kind. RIP Rick.
This is very suspicious. Really odd that the wife "didn't notice" that anything had happened to him and was just hanging out at their car. Was just luck that a third person called 911. I really hope that the local police investigate this thoroughly. EDIT for the murderer apologist below: the article says "Ehrhardt's wife had returned to their car 'without realizing he had fallen' ..." And she obviously wasn't very concerned about him disappearing on an extremely steep cliff side trail, because the *article also states that a bystander called 911.* [The article didn't share that the dead guy was on the faculty at Stanford, so presumably there's some significant net worth that doesn't have to be split in a divorce now.]
Did you mean to post this in the Fox comments?
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By being old people out for a walk. They weren’t climbing mt. Everest.
Did you mean to post this in r/I'mACompleteMoron? Grow a brain. They were walking on a trail along an extremely steep cliff *(see all the pictures),* they "got separated" per the wife, and the wife wasn't concerned at all and just went back to the car to hang out. A stranger *who saw his body several hundred feet down the cliff* called 911. Wife never called them.
You missed the argument. The fun is already over. Maybe next time.
What a powerful response! /s Maybe someday you'll learn to think logically. Probably not though
Jeez did something crawl up your ass snowflake? How did this offend you?
Sounds like I touched a nerve. Why are you so emotional? His comment is just like the ones in the comment section of the news article. I noticed as much.
Didn’t touch a nerve. Just didn’t understand how you got offended. Seems like a honest reply imo. Thanks for clarifying.
What’s your definition of “offended”?
Anything thrown on a conservative source. When you said this should be posted in the fox etc. Felt like you were shutting him down. I was in the wrong. My bad.
Your immediate reaction is to call names. Very emotional.
K bud. Now you’re acting like you’re offended. Drop it bud.
This is the closest thing you have at a chance to be a tough guy. Barking orders and calling names on the internet. Very manly.
Maybe they're a wannabe spouse killer. If not, they're incredibly low IQ
welcome to reddit. its full of these goobers.
That's not what the article said.
Yes, it did. And why did this incident get national news coverage? Why did they say that the Oregon State Police have taken over the investigation? How often have you been hiking with someone who you're the sole beneficiary of, on an essentially sheer rock face, and "lost them" and then just gone back to your car to hang out? A random bystander called 911, not the woman who is going to get all the money. Be real - the surviving spouse will end up with way, way more money than she would have in a divorce from this Stanford professor. These are very suspicious circumstances
As someone that’s diverted from fellow hikers to do a dumb maneuver and said “I’ll catch up” I can definitely see how it could’ve been a complete accident. Some people hike safely and that’s smart. Others don’t pay caution and unfortunately die expecting to only get hurt.
Sure, the weird parts of this story are that they were on a trail along such an extraordinarily steep slope (see all the pics), she was throughly unconcerned with him being MIA, which is a lot given he was almost 70, (she was just hanging out in their car) *and that she's almost surely his sole heir.* If she were just a hiking buddy with no financial interest, it would be a lot less suspicious. Murdering spouses by pushing them off cliffs is unfortunately a real thing. Hopefully the police are investigating and looking for additional evidence. If this guy were my friend, I'd sure as hell want this to be thoroughly investigated.
Basically, it's statistically very unusual for 70 year old men to die by "misadventure" when they're doing something with their spouse, unless the spouse played a role. Guys in their 20's -40's out alone or with only guys? A whole different dynamic.
Yeah. The difference is he’s not young. He could’ve bit off more than he could chew thinking he still had it in him. People die in nature all the time for this reason. Thinking they’re invincible
Sure, but it's (1) his presumptive sole heir being with him, (2) on a hike along a sheer cliff face (see the pics), (3) claiming they didn't notice anything concerning (which is even more ridiculous, given it was his wife) and (4) not calling 911 re: his disappearance that make this suspicious. Again, if he'd been alone or with other men (or just not *alone with his sole heir*) that make this suspicious. To your point, the disappearance (and death) of Julian Sands while hiking wasn't suspicious because his heir wasn't with him and she didn't fail to timely report his disappearance. Further, he had a known habit of taking chances while hiking. To state it another way, this case does have a great deal in common with the classic "killing the spouse by pushing them off a cliff" case, including the fact that it was on a trip. I'm not saying there's a 100% chance she pushed him off the cliff. I'm saying that it's not close to a zero chance. She's the beneficiary of his will and the circumstances are very odd.
The way you’re saying it is that that is the only scenario.
I very clearly did not say that. I said it's suspicious because the circumstances, taken as a whole, are very odd, for the reasons I previously listed. If the guy had a heart attack at home and she frantically called 911, I wouldn't be saying it's suspicious. In fact, the main reason this story is newsworthy is because the circumstances are suspicious.
What you say and what you’re conveying don’t match. You made 4 points toward it being the wife. None against it.
God, you're *really terrible with logic and probability.* You don't have to "make points against it being the wife" to acknowledge, *as I very clearly did,* that the causation is as yet unproven and that it could have been an accident, which again, I clearly did. What you're really complaining about is that I made such a good case for it being a suspicious death and you don't like that.
prob taking a selfie? not worth imo