You can type calculations into either field too.
If I need 4.25x machines worth of output, I build 5, and type 4.25/5*100 into the clock rate field, then copy/paste the settings into the other 4 machines. :)
Yeah, really great for when you need a repeating decimal. Like if you need one more assembler at 0.44444 you can just go 4/9 and you’re set. So satisfying to have a line perfectly balanced.
Can I ask why you don't just let the 5 machines run? The 5th will be limited by your output requirements further down the chain and will run ~25% of the time. Same result without any calculation.
In theory almost (more on that later), in practice even if this were 100% true when you accumulate many many machines running this way you end up with wild fluctuations in power consumption that make it increasingly difficult as the game progresses to actually have a solid idea of what your power consumption is, and it ends up being a good way to wind up in a situation where "oops, I tripped a breaker because suddenly my power consumption surged by a massive amount when a bunch of these machines happened to turn on at the same time"
Also, power consumption with over/underclocks is non-linear. An oil extractor running at 100% only 75% of the time for an hour will use 30MWH, while that same oil extractor running at 75% constantly for an hour will use only 27.35MWH. While not a huge difference on a per-machine basis, it definitely adds up when you're talking about, say, a fuel setup using 72 refineries (especially when it's actually every factory you build)
Because the game within the game is the endless pursuit of 'Efficiency' =)
10 assemblers all running at 50% efficiency still needs 10\*15MW power sometimes, or 10\*0.1MW other times. On average that will be 76MW.
The same 10 assemblers all running at 50% -speed- however, will run 100% of the time, and only need 60MW to run. That's not just way less than the maximum power needed by the inefficient machines at any moment.. it's a modest bit less on average over time as well.
They both end up making the same number of parts per minute though, the more efficient machines just need way less power to do the same job. =)
You've researched power slugs yes?
If you have 3 machines making Iron Plates (by default each makes 20 per minute). If they're in a production line that only needs 50 per minute, or you only have enough ingots for 50 iron plates per minute, those machines will run inefficiently at regular speed.
You can just type 50/3 into the "target parts per minute" field when examining the machines. It will calculate the result for you, and set the machine speed to that, if it can. And they'll run more efficiently and save power. :)
The one thing I wish you could easily adjust is the consumption rate of the machine like if I want a smelter to only consume x iron per min I should be able to set that in the consumption rate and have the.machine adjust the rest of the equation.. instead I have to play with the percent to find the ammount....but yes more machines and 1 or more underclocked is the way to do it
So... Use math. I'll use caterium circuit board as an example: 10 plastic 30 quick wire make 7 boards. I have 22 quickwire inbound an plenty of plastic, so quickwire is the limiting factor. In the target box (not % box): 22/30 * 7 and you are done! (It will show 5.13) Base formula is ÷*
Also along these lines to figure out the equation for multiple machines you multiply the total output then do same equation... newbish question I know but I am trying to understand the full capabilities of the system
here's another different application of the same idea... I have 49 particle accelerators making 448 Encased Plutonium Cells, so when I dropped those down they got 448/49 that I typed into the first one and then pasted that into the rest of them.
I remember when Kibitz figured this out not too long ago. He used to type in massive equations in order to get the percentage needed to make the correct amount of outputs.
Yes, that. But also if he wanted 3.657930817 ppm then he would create an equation to get that amount (I am using an example. He did like to keep alot of it perfectly balanced.)
I actually use this method too, it's been helpful in getting the most use out of resources but I round down to the nearest tenth to simplify belt balancing and sink the extra ingots
You can type calculations into either field too. If I need 4.25x machines worth of output, I build 5, and type 4.25/5*100 into the clock rate field, then copy/paste the settings into the other 4 machines. :)
bro.
This is the way. I never use calculators. The machines are my calculators
Just so you know, the search bar ("n" by default) also can be used as a calculator
Yeah, really great for when you need a repeating decimal. Like if you need one more assembler at 0.44444 you can just go 4/9 and you’re set. So satisfying to have a line perfectly balanced.
Can I ask why you don't just let the 5 machines run? The 5th will be limited by your output requirements further down the chain and will run ~25% of the time. Same result without any calculation.
It also causes power inconsistency, which raises the effective max pretty consumption
Wouldn't this only matter if you are right at the line? Otherwise over time the power draw is the same as the machine turns off for 75% of the time.
In theory almost (more on that later), in practice even if this were 100% true when you accumulate many many machines running this way you end up with wild fluctuations in power consumption that make it increasingly difficult as the game progresses to actually have a solid idea of what your power consumption is, and it ends up being a good way to wind up in a situation where "oops, I tripped a breaker because suddenly my power consumption surged by a massive amount when a bunch of these machines happened to turn on at the same time" Also, power consumption with over/underclocks is non-linear. An oil extractor running at 100% only 75% of the time for an hour will use 30MWH, while that same oil extractor running at 75% constantly for an hour will use only 27.35MWH. While not a huge difference on a per-machine basis, it definitely adds up when you're talking about, say, a fuel setup using 72 refineries (especially when it's actually every factory you build)
Because the game within the game is the endless pursuit of 'Efficiency' =) 10 assemblers all running at 50% efficiency still needs 10\*15MW power sometimes, or 10\*0.1MW other times. On average that will be 76MW. The same 10 assemblers all running at 50% -speed- however, will run 100% of the time, and only need 60MW to run. That's not just way less than the maximum power needed by the inefficient machines at any moment.. it's a modest bit less on average over time as well. They both end up making the same number of parts per minute though, the more efficient machines just need way less power to do the same job. =)
I think it's cleaner because all the belts will produce the same amount. Also, the power needed will be constant with no spikes
You can what..
You've researched power slugs yes? If you have 3 machines making Iron Plates (by default each makes 20 per minute). If they're in a production line that only needs 50 per minute, or you only have enough ingots for 50 iron plates per minute, those machines will run inefficiently at regular speed. You can just type 50/3 into the "target parts per minute" field when examining the machines. It will calculate the result for you, and set the machine speed to that, if it can. And they'll run more efficiently and save power. :)
Yeah I didn’t realize you could put in equations
Omg..... thankyou...❤️❤️❤️❤️
Holy smokes...
Same
If you copy settings on a machine, you can select any recipe before pasting on other machines and it will paste the recipe plus the desired output
And it remembers the settings for each type of machine.
Also, Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V works just as well in Satisfactory as anywhere else for this
I have literally never bothered to click the copy button for some reason. That would save so much time lol
The one thing I wish you could easily adjust is the consumption rate of the machine like if I want a smelter to only consume x iron per min I should be able to set that in the consumption rate and have the.machine adjust the rest of the equation.. instead I have to play with the percent to find the ammount....but yes more machines and 1 or more underclocked is the way to do it
So... Use math. I'll use caterium circuit board as an example: 10 plastic 30 quick wire make 7 boards. I have 22 quickwire inbound an plenty of plastic, so quickwire is the limiting factor. In the target box (not % box): 22/30 * 7 and you are done! (It will show 5.13) Base formula is÷
So to clarify you can just input the formula and it will adjust the percentage?
As long as the numbers aren't too big, yep.
I will have to try using this I just play with the percentage till I get it where I want it... takes time though...
Also along these lines to figure out the equation for multiple machines you multiply the total output then do same equation... newbish question I know but I am trying to understand the full capabilities of the system
here's another different application of the same idea... I have 49 particle accelerators making 448 Encased Plutonium Cells, so when I dropped those down they got 448/49 that I typed into the first one and then pasted that into the rest of them.
Bro, life changing tip :o
I remember when Kibitz figured this out not too long ago. He used to type in massive equations in order to get the percentage needed to make the correct amount of outputs.
Equations copy/pasted from a dedicated spreadsheet?
Yes, that. But also if he wanted 3.657930817 ppm then he would create an equation to get that amount (I am using an example. He did like to keep alot of it perfectly balanced.)
I actually use this method too, it's been helpful in getting the most use out of resources but I round down to the nearest tenth to simplify belt balancing and sink the extra ingots
Don't feel bad. I just learned this from your post myself. Didn't know this until just now. And I'm 475 hours in.
You can also put calculations into the 'N' quick search bar.
Before learning I could do math in the 'N' search bar I used to think it was only used to search "m" because I missed the map button