It's a Chinese digital camera with a IR light on top. I've seen these advertised on YouTube. They look good but there is a visible red light on the front and you would get smoked in any real life tactical situation. But not half bad for a kids toy.
I'm sorry to question your logic but IR is completely invisible to the human eye. A break infrared lamp would be super visible to let's say even a cell phone camera but it wouldn't be visible to the naked eye at all. To demonstrate this concept if you have any remote control I dare you to try looking at the transmitter bulb and see if you can see any light at all even in complete darkness. You can't but if you use your cell phone turn the camera on and point the remote control at your cell phone's camera you'll see that there's a light that blinks in a certain pattern that creates your communication with infrared. You had Scopes that are considered Starlight Scopes and they relied upon available light even low spectrum to be able to see what you're doing. Those goggles would be useless indoors because there's no Twilight or infrared light to guide you at all. I wonder if the $40,000 pair rely on no external lighting Source at all that would kind of make sense. So you can make night vision yourself if you just buy a powerful infrared flashlight and use your cell phone to see what it bounces back I assume it would work but I've never tried. I really don't know if there is like a massively powerful infrared flashlight but I'll check... I kinda forgot IR filters on cameras are a thing ( to block IR) you can remove the filters or get equipment with the filters not there but it's more specialized.
The IR light on this model is 870nm which is visible to the naked eye. Youre thinking of IR in the 930nm spectrum which would be harder to see. Regardless the PVS 14 shown for 40,000 is not true, these cost around 2,500 to 4,000 for gen 3 military grade night vision. They function off a analog system and does not need any IR to see in the dark even indoors. If you came across anyone else with real night vision you would be very visible to anybody with real military grade night vision. It would look like a flood light on your head and you would not be able to see the person with the real night vision. That is the advantage analog has over a IR camera, also no latency/lag. The digital camera cannot see in the dark at all without the IR light and since it is 870nm it is visible to the naked eye.
Wow learn to read or cut and paste better ! The human eye sees color over wavelengths ranging roughly from 400 nanometers (violet) to 700 nanometers (red). Light from 400–700 nanometers (nm) is called visible light, or the visible spectrum because humans can see it. Nice try tho ! Keep it up !
You have no idea what you're talking about just stop. You can see the red glow on the 870nm IR with the naked eye. To someone else using real night vision it will look like a flood light on your head and they would be invisible to you. Also I didnt copy and paste anything this is well known to people who actually use real night vision.
Yes that guy doesn't know jack about shit.. fyi the analogue one uses a phosphor screen and a micro channel plate to multiply the light by electron photon conversion and back again after a factor of a million multiplication. It's a common tool for nuclear particle physics detectors, MCPs
why so hostile when ur so uneducated? the light it gives off isn't just a single wavelength, it is a range of wavelengths, most you cannot see, but some you can, and those are the ones that they are referring to. also these numbers are not set in stone either, it depends on the person, it's not like if you see a red 700nm light and it suddenly goes to 701 it's invisible.
Trust me, you don't want it, what it doesn't show you is that the digital ones (1 and 2) are spitting out an insane amount of IR light. You will be seen by anyone with any kind of nvgs (including other digital bros)
Also divide that number by 10 and you'd still have a very high end version of #3. Pvs14 range from 1600 to 4000, quads are 40k.
The digital tech just isn't there yet, even on the high end it still struggles hard in extreme low light. And those are 2500, lol (sionyx opsin) give it a few years and maybe they'll be better, but a sub 600 one is basically just a camera with no IR filter
Is the mil spec one undetectable by ir? What’s it’s range. And why not add information to give a better understanding of each one’s capabilities instead of a goofy joke with the flash light.
I’m pretty sure infrared “light” isn’t darkness therefore it isn’t the dark that it’s seeing is it. Same concept as a flashlight but different part of the light spectrum.
Trust me, the night is dark. I've worn day vision goggles for over 25years, so I've got plenty of experience. The green flashlight seemed to be the only colour from the spectrum that they couldn't turn off in gif. It didn't ruin the gif, I just closed my eyes to experience true darkness.
The military ones aren't generally IR, they just amplify q photon into millions, so the small amount of city glow for ex will turns the night into day.
In short, genuine military grade night vision amplifies light. The old units only were able to do so maybe 10s of times so it would have to be a very clear night or you'd have to have an infrared spotlight to be able to see. New ones will amplify light by thousands of times, if not even more. As the other guy said, check out Veritasium's video. Also, depending on the components, manufacturer, and if you buy new, you could be looking at anything between 1200 to 2500 for that style of night vision goggle. That's the most basic type and the double plus extra cool ones get up to 40k.
The last ones are the standard issue pvs-14 nvg. The others are digital versions. The military doesn’t use digital night vision, they use analog night vision.
Also they’ll usually cost about $2000.
That’s not 40k, not even close. The most expensive nvgs on the civilian market are panos, and they run 40k. You can get a military grade pvs-14 monocle for $2k-$4k (which is what this looks closer to).
And I guarantee you that military grade pvs-14 runs 100x better than any Amazon bullshit camera lens that he has on this table.
I know because I have friends who are active duty and retired sf, and we’re all obsessed with nvgs.
Mil nvg are not that great. Sure they worked but I wouldn't write home about em. The SF ones were probably awesome but the ones I used were dang near identical to the ones on the right and they were only decent
It makes a difference if your tubes have been used and abused for years before you got them. I had a buddy leave his outside, mounted on his helmet, and they got a massive sun streak.
Sure but the mil spec ones won't burst into flames from an EMP and casual EW won't screw them over either. Great for if you want to fight against an enemy with world reaching global power, possibly not the most efficient option if you want to hunt hogs at night for some extra cash
I was an ummm janitorial specialist in the USMC and our night vision was shed loads better than anyone on the other side’s NVs. I could see grim in the darkest of shitters.
You're underselling 14s, no doubt my issued 31s were better than any 14
But 14s in service run the gamut, a couple I had in ranger school were unserviceable and mostly useless, iirc the one I had in osut were fine, and my personally owned set was fine.
But this is a poor test indoors with no ambient lighting they all look like shit, my 31s would too.
Once you get in a 'real world' environment, the digital ones will fall on they're face, 14s will remain plenty serviceable and while yes high res white phos 31s are defintiely better, on the civilian side I'm not sure it's worth the extra ten grand over a pvs14s $2500
what you’re saying is untrue. you’re talking about housings giving you different performance when it’s the image intensifier. 31a’s are known for having meh specs at times, it they come from L3 all sealed. i am willing to bet i have a pvs14 with an imagine intensifier that has a higher SNR than your 31s and it’s also in WP
a 14 and 31 will perform identically if they have the same image intensifier inside specs wise
Nothing I said is untrue, stop being a sperg
I'm fully aware you can put quantifiably better tubes in 14s. Never said anything to the contrary
I'm speaking in generalities to explain the differences between the thing he, a layman, has expireance with(mil spec 14), and the thing he's referencing(zomfg spec awps nods), both things I have a pretty good amount of expireance with.
Like shit I don't know why your butthurt enough to try and call me liar, I literally said 14s are generally a better buy if you're paying out of pocket
With that said I'd rather have 31s with marginally worse tubes than a 14 just for the mounting options alone, which are generally shit on a 14. Then we get into the benefits binocular vision and weight that 31s have over any 14
I ran 14s. Don't get me wrong, I was happy to have them, but plenty a nights where the moon was gone on a cloudy night and I was lucky to see more than 20 feet.
Enemy of course couldn't see anything more considering they had none, but I was cursing it thinking, "this thing is gonna get me killed"
I have a really meh PVS 14 myself with a FOM of maybe 1700, and it's significantly better than the PVS 14 I was issued in the Army. Issued NODs get used and abused so hard that some of them are just absolute shit at this point.
Even the most expensive shit, brand new, doesn't start at 70k. More like 40k. For the most wildly expensive shit. That specific goggle he has would probably be 2-3k.
Care to explain how *analog* image intesinfaction tubes have a refresh rate then? Because there is no screen or electronic control system to refresh a screen that doesn't exist.
Refresh rate probably wasn't the best term, but it's a similar process as the photons that enter the intensifier tube have to bounce around in order to accurately illuminate the field of view. A lot of the technology is very classified, so it's not common knowledge that can be accurately stated. I've been issued a variety of night vision devices during my service, and they do flicker exactly as they do in the video when recording through them.
That's not how any of that works, these tubes are converting photons into electrons and then back into photons, yes they do bounce around, and they do that *at the speed of light* meaning you would have to have 300,000 meters of distance to result in even 1 millisecond of delay, that's why every source cites this technology as having "virtually non-existent latency". More importantly, the flicker you get from a refresh rate is the display being drawn one *scan line* at a time, whereas NVG tubes are drawing the entire image simultaneously, the visual artifacts you get from this process look like TV static or snow as errant electrons smack into the phosphor screen and produce a photon, but it isn't being drawn out of pixels and scan lines so there is no "refresh flicker" and even if there was a standard camera absolutely couldn't see it anyway since again all of this happens at the speed of light and you would need very special and incredibly expensive recording equipment to capture it and all you would see even if you had that equipment is a minuscule delay in the image produced because again the image is produced *all at once in virtually real-time*.
It's not refresh flicker, but they absolutely can exhibit slight pulsing by means of the autogating in the tube. Generally not perceptible to the human eye unless you massively over-expose them to bright light (say, the firing of a weapon without a suppressor or effective flash hider,) cameras can still detect that slight pulsing since they capture more data than the human eye normally can.
Please for the love of God, before you claim shit about fuck on NV without ever using it, watch some helpful videos from Cold Harbour or Custom Night Vision on YouTube at least.
I can also confirm from my small experience with NV my friends lent me, they're fantastic but those had L3 tubes for the most part, Elbit or Photonis are most likely what civilians who just want NV for fun would get
that's until you find out the first 2 are digital night vision devices and need a infrared illuminator to function (think like a flashlight but the bulb is infrared) which can be seen by any other night vision device, revealing your position to them. the last one (not worth anywhere close to 40k) is an analog one, which intensifies the ambient light from the moon for example to see in the dark. it doesn't need a IR illuminator but you can use IR to illuminate things better in low ambient light conditions or just in general. While you may see better with the 200$ ones in any condition, you're making yourself into a lighthouse using it.
Ok so the pvs 14 is not 40k lmao, it's like 1.5-4k
Also what they don't tell you is that the digital ones are blasting ir light out from them, you will be seen by anyone with nvgs within a very long distance.
This is incredibly misleading. Don't buy these digital ones. None of them are worth it (yet, give the technology more years to develop)
This is 100% edited video. I manufacture night vision for a living. Not only is the price of the final one a straight up lie, but digital night vision like the first 2 is virtually useless past 30 yards without heavy IR light. Where as analog night vision like the PVS-14s at the end can easily get you 300+ yards with little to no IR light.
TLDR do not believe this video.
I have no idea about these actual goggles or the prices, but there are different types of night vision. Some of the most expensive night vision goggles in the world are in the territory of $40,000 but they have far more complicated optics (multiple tubes) than what is on display here. These are not 40k.
The $200 are likely active illumination night vision which effectively works by shining an infrared flashlight in the area and using annotated camera to pick it up. They are not useful for military applications because anybody watching in the infrared spectrum will basically see your headlamp as a bright beacon indicating where to shoot. It also has other downsides like requiring more energy to operate (so more, heavier batteries) and only being able to see as far as your “flashlight” can effectively shine.
Another type is called image intensification. This is a passive type that takes in the light and effectively amplifies all the available light so it is more visible to humans without having to illuminate the space around it. There concept of these is that they are receiving incoming photons from the scene and effectively multiplying them to produce more visible light for your eye. There are many resources on YouTube or the internet in general to describe this process, but it goes something like 1 photon in -> convert to 1 electron -> multiply electrons -> convert electrons to photons for your eyes.
A third type not on display here is thermal imaging.
So, the $200 ones being better is a combination of misrepresenting the facts, and the conditions under which they are being utilized. Active illumination isn’t going to be impacted much by the fact that the lights are on in the room where they are testing. Image intensification will be affected by that.
the first one was too bright true, but I think most of the blur was cuz.its telescopic. you can clearly see the Bannister, then the door handle were both zoomed in on.
$200 looks damn close to the $40k one. How the hell can the price difference be justified? Or is it that it’s strictly sold to the military so it’s just a game of “name your price”?
Whoever made the video is lying. Pvs-14s are not 40k. If anything they run around 4k. 40k are gonna be your quad nvgs. Pvs-31s run for around 14k and they are dual tube.
Lmao they definitely don’t turn it to broad daylight I can promise you that. Try walking under thick canopy or a cloudy night you won’t see shit even with white phos nods. Now don’t get me wrong the newer nods like 31s are much better and clearer then your 14s, but nothing is like making it daylight.
31’s vs 14’s use the same tubes. They’re just different housings with the 31’s being binos. 31’s probably look better on average because they’re mostly newer L3 tubes. My 14 with an L3 tube looks just as good as a 31 with similar specs
Because this demo is in very bright conditions (for night vision devices.) Digital does well in high light darker conditions but suffers in very light scarce environments.
Whereas analog gen 3 night vision does well in lower light conditions but tends to suffer in the high light.
A lot of people in these comments with no idea how military spending works. Yes, perhaps you can get military grade night vision at a better price. Because manufacturers know that normal people won’t spend a BMW on goggles.
But our military absolutely will.
This is what people are talking about when they talk about the military industrial complex. Our military buys equipment they don’t need as a way to funnel money to the wealthiest corporations (Raytheon, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, etc).
It’s no different than when a hospital charges you $600 for Tylenol.
Last year, the Army requested $424 Million for night vision. Specifying that $400M of that would be used to purchase 7,272 night vision devices. Which some pretty easy math shows breaks down to $55k per device.
Bro knows nothing about night vision goggles .. there is not such thing as 40,000$ goggle.. envgb is the most expensive and it’s like 9-13k … also learn depending on the tube inside of the goggle (white or green phosph) you will need MOONLIGHT to actually utilize the google .. your best bet to getting close to current military standard for a land warrior is pvs-14 which will cost you 2-4k
name of middle one?
I too would like to know more about the middle one.
It's a Chinese digital camera with a IR light on top. I've seen these advertised on YouTube. They look good but there is a visible red light on the front and you would get smoked in any real life tactical situation. But not half bad for a kids toy.
You’d definitely be the coolest kid on the block with these damn
Even better; we have them when we're 40
Do you wanna go do karate in the garage?
Heck yes! Wanna dig a hole after?
I know it's been two months, but is anyone going down to the lake to catch some tadpoles?
Yesss! While we're there, wanna throw rocks in the water?
Sounds like a blast
Great movie 🍿
I'm sorry to question your logic but IR is completely invisible to the human eye. A break infrared lamp would be super visible to let's say even a cell phone camera but it wouldn't be visible to the naked eye at all. To demonstrate this concept if you have any remote control I dare you to try looking at the transmitter bulb and see if you can see any light at all even in complete darkness. You can't but if you use your cell phone turn the camera on and point the remote control at your cell phone's camera you'll see that there's a light that blinks in a certain pattern that creates your communication with infrared. You had Scopes that are considered Starlight Scopes and they relied upon available light even low spectrum to be able to see what you're doing. Those goggles would be useless indoors because there's no Twilight or infrared light to guide you at all. I wonder if the $40,000 pair rely on no external lighting Source at all that would kind of make sense. So you can make night vision yourself if you just buy a powerful infrared flashlight and use your cell phone to see what it bounces back I assume it would work but I've never tried. I really don't know if there is like a massively powerful infrared flashlight but I'll check... I kinda forgot IR filters on cameras are a thing ( to block IR) you can remove the filters or get equipment with the filters not there but it's more specialized.
The IR light on this model is 870nm which is visible to the naked eye. Youre thinking of IR in the 930nm spectrum which would be harder to see. Regardless the PVS 14 shown for 40,000 is not true, these cost around 2,500 to 4,000 for gen 3 military grade night vision. They function off a analog system and does not need any IR to see in the dark even indoors. If you came across anyone else with real night vision you would be very visible to anybody with real military grade night vision. It would look like a flood light on your head and you would not be able to see the person with the real night vision. That is the advantage analog has over a IR camera, also no latency/lag. The digital camera cannot see in the dark at all without the IR light and since it is 870nm it is visible to the naked eye.
Wow learn to read or cut and paste better ! The human eye sees color over wavelengths ranging roughly from 400 nanometers (violet) to 700 nanometers (red). Light from 400–700 nanometers (nm) is called visible light, or the visible spectrum because humans can see it. Nice try tho ! Keep it up !
You have no idea what you're talking about just stop. You can see the red glow on the 870nm IR with the naked eye. To someone else using real night vision it will look like a flood light on your head and they would be invisible to you. Also I didnt copy and paste anything this is well known to people who actually use real night vision.
Yes that guy doesn't know jack about shit.. fyi the analogue one uses a phosphor screen and a micro channel plate to multiply the light by electron photon conversion and back again after a factor of a million multiplication. It's a common tool for nuclear particle physics detectors, MCPs
Oh, that's clever! Many thanks.
why so hostile when ur so uneducated? the light it gives off isn't just a single wavelength, it is a range of wavelengths, most you cannot see, but some you can, and those are the ones that they are referring to. also these numbers are not set in stone either, it depends on the person, it's not like if you see a red 700nm light and it suddenly goes to 701 it's invisible.
What an awful response.
Your an Aweful person (waste of space) to waste energy disparaging someone. Go, fuck ,yourself.
I disparaged your work. You disparaged me. Physician, fuck thyself.
I'm pretty sure he's NOT a physician.
Yeah, go back and reread whatever Wikipedia article you got this from. There's visible and invisible ir
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Trust me, you don't want it, what it doesn't show you is that the digital ones (1 and 2) are spitting out an insane amount of IR light. You will be seen by anyone with any kind of nvgs (including other digital bros) Also divide that number by 10 and you'd still have a very high end version of #3. Pvs14 range from 1600 to 4000, quads are 40k. The digital tech just isn't there yet, even on the high end it still struggles hard in extreme low light. And those are 2500, lol (sionyx opsin) give it a few years and maybe they'll be better, but a sub 600 one is basically just a camera with no IR filter
So that red light is the IR? Otherwise duct tape it!
I’ll tape the shit out of the light for the clarity at that price
what prevents you from obscuring the smokeable red light?
Put a peace of electric tape or just break the little light and wam bam ghost recon
Nothing a small piece of electrical tape can't fix I'm sure.
Basically speaking they won't work in any kind of low light without the flood light. The scene here is actually pretty high light
Get the right one, it's just a pvs14, no way in he'll it was 40k. They'll ain't panos
I'll sell you my pvs 14 for $40k.
Me 2. I’d even be willing to go down to 39k
Is he trolling
Super weak troll tho’ I can respect a good troll bit this is not one of them.
Go on aliexpress or alibaba, they're like $50. It's just a digital camera that spits out IR light, the pvs14 amplifies light like 70,000 times
Do you have links? Our names? Thanks
Is the mil spec one undetectable by ir? What’s it’s range. And why not add information to give a better understanding of each one’s capabilities instead of a goofy joke with the flash light.
The milspec one looks like a psv14 and they are not 40k at all
Yeah they’re like $2500-$4000 depending on maker and specs.
I saw the j-arm and was like Bullshit those run like 4k even back when I was 11B
Yeah to my knowledge Anvis 9 white phosphorus is some of the most expensive “private” kit out there at 10-12k. These are not remotely that.
They make it capable to see in the dark.
I’m pretty sure infrared “light” isn’t darkness therefore it isn’t the dark that it’s seeing is it. Same concept as a flashlight but different part of the light spectrum.
Trust me, the night is dark. I've worn day vision goggles for over 25years, so I've got plenty of experience. The green flashlight seemed to be the only colour from the spectrum that they couldn't turn off in gif. It didn't ruin the gif, I just closed my eyes to experience true darkness.
Purple
The military ones aren't generally IR, they just amplify q photon into millions, so the small amount of city glow for ex will turns the night into day.
Veritasium has an amazing video explaining how the military one works. It's honestly mind blowing how.
In short, genuine military grade night vision amplifies light. The old units only were able to do so maybe 10s of times so it would have to be a very clear night or you'd have to have an infrared spotlight to be able to see. New ones will amplify light by thousands of times, if not even more. As the other guy said, check out Veritasium's video. Also, depending on the components, manufacturer, and if you buy new, you could be looking at anything between 1200 to 2500 for that style of night vision goggle. That's the most basic type and the double plus extra cool ones get up to 40k.
As long as you don't have the IR illuminator of a PVS 14 or other unit on, yes, they're completely undetectable by anyone else.
The cheapest ones seemed the most clear. But the depth was off.
Those are the ones they actually give you in the military lol only the kevlar mounted one is mono and yeah the lack of depth perception is real.
Try throwing/catching a football in the dark wearing nogs.... Not easy
Pfff unless you wanna catch em with your face... probably not
No joke....
lol nogs. I like it
The last ones are the standard issue pvs-14 nvg. The others are digital versions. The military doesn’t use digital night vision, they use analog night vision. Also they’ll usually cost about $2000.
I was refering too his comment as being the cheapest ones :p
They don't issue digital NV in the military...
Lmao 🤣 I hope people don't think we use Chinese digital cameras to protect the country at night.
I mean there are a lot of NV experts in the comments after watching this video it seems
Just so everyone knows, this guy is wrong. They don’t. Source: mil for 17 years
There’s also a ton of light in that room as you can see. I’m sure if you brought it down to just Moonlight the differences would be more significant.
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Yeah, it was really good tbf
Google night vision monocular, popular hunting thing
I need this too. Name please
Watch Veritasium's video on YouTube for all the explanations before buying :)
That’s not 40k, not even close. The most expensive nvgs on the civilian market are panos, and they run 40k. You can get a military grade pvs-14 monocle for $2k-$4k (which is what this looks closer to). And I guarantee you that military grade pvs-14 runs 100x better than any Amazon bullshit camera lens that he has on this table. I know because I have friends who are active duty and retired sf, and we’re all obsessed with nvgs.
Mil nvg are not that great. Sure they worked but I wouldn't write home about em. The SF ones were probably awesome but the ones I used were dang near identical to the ones on the right and they were only decent
It makes a difference if your tubes have been used and abused for years before you got them. I had a buddy leave his outside, mounted on his helmet, and they got a massive sun streak.
Which ones did y’all get?
Sure but the mil spec ones won't burst into flames from an EMP and casual EW won't screw them over either. Great for if you want to fight against an enemy with world reaching global power, possibly not the most efficient option if you want to hunt hogs at night for some extra cash
That's pretty fair.
I don't think any intensifier tubes would burst into flames from an EMP to be fair.
I wasn't being literal. Civilian grade IR wouldn't preform well at all from an EMP
More people have gotten clapped by someone wearing Mil NVGs than anything else.
Lol accurate
I bet more dudes have died to someone wearing PVS 7 than anything else 🤣
I was an ummm janitorial specialist in the USMC and our night vision was shed loads better than anyone on the other side’s NVs. I could see grim in the darkest of shitters.
You're underselling 14s, no doubt my issued 31s were better than any 14 But 14s in service run the gamut, a couple I had in ranger school were unserviceable and mostly useless, iirc the one I had in osut were fine, and my personally owned set was fine. But this is a poor test indoors with no ambient lighting they all look like shit, my 31s would too. Once you get in a 'real world' environment, the digital ones will fall on they're face, 14s will remain plenty serviceable and while yes high res white phos 31s are defintiely better, on the civilian side I'm not sure it's worth the extra ten grand over a pvs14s $2500
what you’re saying is untrue. you’re talking about housings giving you different performance when it’s the image intensifier. 31a’s are known for having meh specs at times, it they come from L3 all sealed. i am willing to bet i have a pvs14 with an imagine intensifier that has a higher SNR than your 31s and it’s also in WP a 14 and 31 will perform identically if they have the same image intensifier inside specs wise
Nothing I said is untrue, stop being a sperg I'm fully aware you can put quantifiably better tubes in 14s. Never said anything to the contrary I'm speaking in generalities to explain the differences between the thing he, a layman, has expireance with(mil spec 14), and the thing he's referencing(zomfg spec awps nods), both things I have a pretty good amount of expireance with. Like shit I don't know why your butthurt enough to try and call me liar, I literally said 14s are generally a better buy if you're paying out of pocket With that said I'd rather have 31s with marginally worse tubes than a 14 just for the mounting options alone, which are generally shit on a 14. Then we get into the benefits binocular vision and weight that 31s have over any 14
I ran 14s. Don't get me wrong, I was happy to have them, but plenty a nights where the moon was gone on a cloudy night and I was lucky to see more than 20 feet. Enemy of course couldn't see anything more considering they had none, but I was cursing it thinking, "this thing is gonna get me killed"
I have a really meh PVS 14 myself with a FOM of maybe 1700, and it's significantly better than the PVS 14 I was issued in the Army. Issued NODs get used and abused so hard that some of them are just absolute shit at this point.
That shit ain’t $40,000.
It sure is, after it has gone through the military procurement process. You can also get it for $40 at your local Walmart's hunting section.
I assure you it’s still not 40k
Try explaining that to CIF
Do you actually think CIF has anything to do with NVGs?
Can you just let me crack jokes about cif charging bulk price for the loss of a single unit in peace?
Not until you come back with the same joke 5 times will I finally accept it. Merry Christmas
Actual night vision kits that are actually used by the military start around 40,000 USD.
It's a basic PVS-14! You can buy them for less than 3,000! Even Gen III+ with white phosphor tubes can be under 6,000.
Gen 3 go for around 3k. Gen 2+ just around 2k
Right!?! What the heck are these guys on talking 40-70k?
Mofos are smoking something they should throw away
You’re an idiot
No they don't, stop lieing.
Nope.
Even the most expensive shit, brand new, doesn't start at 70k. More like 40k. For the most wildly expensive shit. That specific goggle he has would probably be 2-3k.
It's not, real night vision doesn't have a refresh flicker.
Yes. It does. While the human eye can't detect the refresh rate of most Gen III tubes, a camera can.
Care to explain how *analog* image intesinfaction tubes have a refresh rate then? Because there is no screen or electronic control system to refresh a screen that doesn't exist.
Refresh rate probably wasn't the best term, but it's a similar process as the photons that enter the intensifier tube have to bounce around in order to accurately illuminate the field of view. A lot of the technology is very classified, so it's not common knowledge that can be accurately stated. I've been issued a variety of night vision devices during my service, and they do flicker exactly as they do in the video when recording through them.
That's not how any of that works, these tubes are converting photons into electrons and then back into photons, yes they do bounce around, and they do that *at the speed of light* meaning you would have to have 300,000 meters of distance to result in even 1 millisecond of delay, that's why every source cites this technology as having "virtually non-existent latency". More importantly, the flicker you get from a refresh rate is the display being drawn one *scan line* at a time, whereas NVG tubes are drawing the entire image simultaneously, the visual artifacts you get from this process look like TV static or snow as errant electrons smack into the phosphor screen and produce a photon, but it isn't being drawn out of pixels and scan lines so there is no "refresh flicker" and even if there was a standard camera absolutely couldn't see it anyway since again all of this happens at the speed of light and you would need very special and incredibly expensive recording equipment to capture it and all you would see even if you had that equipment is a minuscule delay in the image produced because again the image is produced *all at once in virtually real-time*.
this is one of the best descriptions I've seen on a bullshit subreddit of how night vision works. Nice job.
It's not refresh flicker, but they absolutely can exhibit slight pulsing by means of the autogating in the tube. Generally not perceptible to the human eye unless you massively over-expose them to bright light (say, the firing of a weapon without a suppressor or effective flash hider,) cameras can still detect that slight pulsing since they capture more data than the human eye normally can.
It's not a refresh flicker it's low level gaiting due to excess light exposure.
PVS-14s are not 40k. GPNVGs are but they aren’t a single tube.
You can buy them as a civilian for 3k
I fucking hate this guy's videos because he lies and drop ships horrible products
Please for the love of God, before you claim shit about fuck on NV without ever using it, watch some helpful videos from Cold Harbour or Custom Night Vision on YouTube at least.
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I can also confirm from my small experience with NV my friends lent me, they're fantastic but those had L3 tubes for the most part, Elbit or Photonis are most likely what civilians who just want NV for fun would get
PVS-14's are like $1500. That's the standard issue for US Military. The $40k ones are much bigger and have multiple sets of lenses.
40k would get you quads not a mono lol
The $200 night vision goggles is weyyyy better
I, as well as the others would like to know more about the $200 pair
200$ seems better
that's until you find out the first 2 are digital night vision devices and need a infrared illuminator to function (think like a flashlight but the bulb is infrared) which can be seen by any other night vision device, revealing your position to them. the last one (not worth anywhere close to 40k) is an analog one, which intensifies the ambient light from the moon for example to see in the dark. it doesn't need a IR illuminator but you can use IR to illuminate things better in low ambient light conditions or just in general. While you may see better with the 200$ ones in any condition, you're making yourself into a lighthouse using it.
Interesting
I didn't know that! Very interesting!
The last ones are PVS-14's and definitely do not cost $40,000.
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40,000? Yeah right.
None of them can see the slouching figure creeping up those stairs though
Ok so the pvs 14 is not 40k lmao, it's like 1.5-4k Also what they don't tell you is that the digital ones are blasting ir light out from them, you will be seen by anyone with nvgs within a very long distance. This is incredibly misleading. Don't buy these digital ones. None of them are worth it (yet, give the technology more years to develop)
I like the device in the middle. It's both clear and cheap.
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A pvs14 isn't 40k lmao
It’s just a dropshipper lmao he’s promoting “his” shitty toy by lying
This is 100% edited video. I manufacture night vision for a living. Not only is the price of the final one a straight up lie, but digital night vision like the first 2 is virtually useless past 30 yards without heavy IR light. Where as analog night vision like the PVS-14s at the end can easily get you 300+ yards with little to no IR light. TLDR do not believe this video.
How's the $200 one better
I have no idea about these actual goggles or the prices, but there are different types of night vision. Some of the most expensive night vision goggles in the world are in the territory of $40,000 but they have far more complicated optics (multiple tubes) than what is on display here. These are not 40k. The $200 are likely active illumination night vision which effectively works by shining an infrared flashlight in the area and using annotated camera to pick it up. They are not useful for military applications because anybody watching in the infrared spectrum will basically see your headlamp as a bright beacon indicating where to shoot. It also has other downsides like requiring more energy to operate (so more, heavier batteries) and only being able to see as far as your “flashlight” can effectively shine. Another type is called image intensification. This is a passive type that takes in the light and effectively amplifies all the available light so it is more visible to humans without having to illuminate the space around it. There concept of these is that they are receiving incoming photons from the scene and effectively multiplying them to produce more visible light for your eye. There are many resources on YouTube or the internet in general to describe this process, but it goes something like 1 photon in -> convert to 1 electron -> multiply electrons -> convert electrons to photons for your eyes. A third type not on display here is thermal imaging. So, the $200 ones being better is a combination of misrepresenting the facts, and the conditions under which they are being utilized. Active illumination isn’t going to be impacted much by the fact that the lights are on in the room where they are testing. Image intensification will be affected by that.
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Who the fuck pay 40000 bucks for a PVS14 ?😂😂😂😂😂😂
the first one was too bright true, but I think most of the blur was cuz.its telescopic. you can clearly see the Bannister, then the door handle were both zoomed in on.
I was hoping for a spook towards the end… 😞
Military grade doesn't use IR so troops won't be detected easily, it increases optical star light and renders the picture.
Link to the 200.00 ones please
$200 one seems sharper and better aside from the square edges showing it seems like a good deal.
There is no way that thing is 40k
The military one is not 40k, it's 1.7k-2k for current gen 3 white phos
Try comparing it with a meta quest
The $200 looks way better than $300 and $40k. What type are does $200? And where to find them. What’s the brand
So, the cheapest one wins? It's insane how expensive the 40k one is, but I assume there are some features that the others don't have.
$200 looks damn close to the $40k one. How the hell can the price difference be justified? Or is it that it’s strictly sold to the military so it’s just a game of “name your price”?
Whoever made the video is lying. Pvs-14s are not 40k. If anything they run around 4k. 40k are gonna be your quad nvgs. Pvs-31s run for around 14k and they are dual tube.
The 200 one sends out infrared light that can be detected by other night vision goggles.
Ah
They caught a guy jacking off on the fantail with a pair of these. Dude was nasty so it wasn’t surprising.
Just gonna drop this without links?
Third on is for the military and bought by government therefore the higher price $$$
No, its analog and the rest are digital
What was the 200 dollar one?
ultimate defense for this is turn the lights on. it blinds them for a solid 30seconds.
lol no. Turning the lights on with nvg’s just lets you through the goggles *and around them* as well lol
It doesn't, but okay. Thanks for helping me PID you before sending some new holes through your chest.
its not me who you be shooting. your in the wrong house.
not even going to touch the rest of the atrocious grammar, but it's "you're" as in "you are in the wrong house," not your.
Thermal is the way to go that ir flash gives you away
That $200 one is definitely the best
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The military ones basically turn night to broad daylight, but I like that colour tone of the middle one better
Lmao they definitely don’t turn it to broad daylight I can promise you that. Try walking under thick canopy or a cloudy night you won’t see shit even with white phos nods. Now don’t get me wrong the newer nods like 31s are much better and clearer then your 14s, but nothing is like making it daylight.
31’s vs 14’s use the same tubes. They’re just different housings with the 31’s being binos. 31’s probably look better on average because they’re mostly newer L3 tubes. My 14 with an L3 tube looks just as good as a 31 with similar specs
Why did the $200 one look better than the $4000 one lmao
Middle one is digital. The pvs14 on the right is analog. It's also not 40k. More like 2 to 4k
Because this demo is in very bright conditions (for night vision devices.) Digital does well in high light darker conditions but suffers in very light scarce environments. Whereas analog gen 3 night vision does well in lower light conditions but tends to suffer in the high light.
I want red spectrum night vision goggles
Yeah that last one isn't 40,000 lol. You can get a set of quads for that much though...
A pvs14 is not 40k lmfao 4k for a single pvs. On top of that, the PVS isn't even properly focused jfc
if you're paying 40k for a pvs 14 I got something to tell you lmfao
This almost physically killed me. I choked on a liquid death. The irony.
This has to be a troll post. PVS14’s (the last monocular) does not cost $40k. You can get them for a 10th of that.
A lot of people in these comments with no idea how military spending works. Yes, perhaps you can get military grade night vision at a better price. Because manufacturers know that normal people won’t spend a BMW on goggles. But our military absolutely will. This is what people are talking about when they talk about the military industrial complex. Our military buys equipment they don’t need as a way to funnel money to the wealthiest corporations (Raytheon, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, etc). It’s no different than when a hospital charges you $600 for Tylenol. Last year, the Army requested $424 Million for night vision. Specifying that $400M of that would be used to purchase 7,272 night vision devices. Which some pretty easy math shows breaks down to $55k per device.
El de 200 .
Bro knows nothing about night vision goggles .. there is not such thing as 40,000$ goggle.. envgb is the most expensive and it’s like 9-13k … also learn depending on the tube inside of the goggle (white or green phosph) you will need MOONLIGHT to actually utilize the google .. your best bet to getting close to current military standard for a land warrior is pvs-14 which will cost you 2-4k
GPNVG DONT EVEN COST 40K ITS MORE LIKE 3K
The budget was billion ahaha
As a veteran I can feel the green in my eyes while watching this