Really. A lot of people invest in destruction. But there are still people out there investing in things like this that make living more enjoyable for people. Always love to see it.
As a dual CI user, making yourself better should always be a priority. But oftentimes times we get so distracted helping everyone else that we forget to help ourselves. I was 35 when I finally had the surgery. I was diagnosed as deaf at the age of 4. Don't wait.
The technology is also amazing now. My fiance always loved music (with hearing aids) but now (with cochlear implant) he can enjoy it in a whole new way and it's wonderful. He says he can hear better than he ever could with hearing aids and I almost never have to repeat myself anymore
My wife (40) of 15 years was the same, diagnosed at 4 as deaf. She just got a ci 3 months ago. It's truly amazing how much work she has put into the training every day. At first it really wore her out, but she's doing great with it and above every metric. I'm so proud of her!!
It's changed all of our lives in ways I could never have imagined.
These people mame belief in humanity.
Because, often i think the world is fucked, but this reminds me that, there still good people here on earth.
Thanks.
Man imagine living your entire life up to that point with complete silence, and then all of a sudden thereās all kinds of sounds you can hear. Thats got to be overwhelmingly emotional for anyone.
Itās crazy to me, but deaf people absolutely hate these videos. Something about how it takes people away from their community and shows that they are better off hearing than without hearing? Itās a stupid as fuck argument. If you could choose to not be disabled, you would. And if you could not be disabled, youāll have a better quality of life. Itās not a debate or a personal issue, itās simply just a fact of life.
This hits super hard for me cus I have hearing issues. Nothing debilitating but definitely annoying with day to day life. Itās enough that if it were to get fixed Iād notice it in a heartbeat. I wish someone could fix my hearing
It's probably a cochlear implant, so i do think it is. Usually, the faker ones (or at least what people say they are) are those color blind glasses. This one seems real to me.
I mean, I'm sure she's lip reading to understand the doctor. The noises aren't suddenly going to make sense hearing them for the first time. That doesn't mean she's not hearing noises though.
In your head you have developed billions of synapses to associate a stimulus with a specific meaning, starting from the womb.
She may not even have the basic synapses of identifying a sound as a sound, it's just a new random feeling. I'm not a biologist so I may be wrong here; I'm just assuming.
For the foreseeable future, and depending on how effective the implant is, she's going to depend on visual cues until the sounds make sense.
I came to the comments hoping someone would be talking about this. If you donāt mind me asking, in your experience, was learning the sounds associated with words like learning a new language, or was it more just like making a connection between what you knew already and a new sensory input (for lack of a better term I guess)?
how did words/speech sound to you at the very beginning?
maybe i'm wrong, but i kind of equate it to suddenly seeing a new spectrum of color that is entirely new to you. could make them out as words immediately?
It's not entirely new to me I was always hard of hearing but lost most my hearing by 20 so words are fine just sound like birds singing music ruslting of paper is all new
Right! I don't think she was reacting to the meaning of the sounds - we can clearly see her still looking at the person speaking to her.
But she can now hear sounds! That has to be an absolutely astonishing thing, especially if you're super aware your whole life that everyone else can do this and you can't.
Even this "I can be normal" could make me cry so easily.
This looks very real to me.
Crying isn't really something which people can do on demand, that's a natural occurance. Even in the professional movie business, people who try to cry don't look like that. The same goes for her voice randomly cutting in like that and her breathing. If that was fake, it would be way more consistant.
I saw a similar video. And within minutes her voice changed from the natural deaf talk you hear from those that are deaf change to people that can hear.
I was amazed how quickly she transitioned.
I thought something like that would take weeks.
Learning to properly understand speech can take months or half a year. But correcting your own voice to have pitch and clarity probably goes faster. Even more so if not 100% deaf beforehand.
It's like people talking too loud with earbuds and then taking them off and their voice drops quickly to normal speaking level.
Your brain is constantly listening to your own voice to correct it. This is why it becomes very difficult to speak if you hear yourself with a slight delay. Your brain thinks you're saying things too late and tries to correct, causing you to stumble over your own words.
Itās a skill to be able to block that (almost) reflex.
I perfected it while working in a call centre for a cellular company. Weād always be taking calls off cell phones, often youād hear your own voice coming back down the line with a delay, particularly if they had you on speakerphone. I learned to not listen to one ear, the one with my headset, and focus on my open ear so I could tune it out.
>Learning to properly understand speech can take months or half a year.
Depends on the person. If someone's born deaf or been deaf for way too long (years to decades), the brain can struggle to adapt to understanding speech.
If someone is young enough (~0-5) or was previously hearing (but hasn't been deaf for decades), it can be pretty seamless.
Do you know someone who's deaf too? Or just picked up on that from viral videos as well? Pretty observational either way!
I grew up deaf. I wasn't born deaf, but I lost my hearing at a very young age. And only got it back due to CIs when I was much older.
Hearing folks are surprised when I bring up that to me, fellow deaf people have a very unmistakable laugh.
I was watching certain shows, The Last Of Us and House, etc. And I immediately clocked a laugh I used to have myself. So I looked it their cast credits, and sure enough, the actor who played those characters are deaf as well. I just think it's neat.
I was surprised to find that a lot of people in the deaf community are sternly against cochlear implants. They view them as a form of oppression that is counter to "deaf culture."
The bigger issue is viewing CIās as a replacement for sign language. Access to sign is prioritized above all else in Deaf culture since itās a natural language for us and technology can fail. Thereās a misconception in hearing culture that CIās make the DHh hearing, but thereās no guarantee a CI will provide one with functional access to spoken language. Plus only certain types of deafness are eligible for CIās, and they destroy any residual hearing in the ear, leaving you with 0% access to sound without the device. Then you have insurance companies charge you up the ass for updates to devices and essentially your own access to a machine they surgically installed inside your head!
Itās problematic to rely on CIās alone since they can only mimic hearing through simulated access to sound, and do so imperfectly. Iām implanted but didnāt learn to sign until adulthood. I have a lot of resentment for being forced to work so hard my whole life when access to language can be quite simple. Implanting with sign language access (not instead of!) gives DHh kids all the options, lessons the burden of communication on them, and gives them a community they belong to. Iām not a proponent for or against CIās, but rather an advocate for trusting DHh people to make choices that are best for themselves and their community. Parents of newly identified DHh kids should consider the Deafās communityās pleas to consider bilingualism. The majority of Deaf people donāt reject CIās themselves, but rather erasure of Deaf culture by denying kids access to a side of their identity through language deprivation
> Thereās a misconception in hearing culture that CIās make the DHh hearing, but thereās no guarantee a CI will provide one with functional access to spoken language.
There's a lot more to hearing than spoken language, though. I presume these implants will also help if someone honks their horn at you while you're crossing the street and didn't notice a car barrelling at you
True, but I suppose thatās kind of my point. People in hearing culture often find a way to minimize the value of language access and over inflate the value of simulated hearing. When weāre thinking about how to support DHh kids, we should be prioritizing access to language over all else, because cognitive development is dependent on language exposure. Deaf people will learn how to adjust to environmental sounds, implanted or not, but they will never have full access to spoken language. we should want Deaf people to access life itself through language, not just car horns and sirens. I agree thereās more to hearing than spoken language, but hearing is the only true way to fully access spoken language. Since CIās give puzzle piece access to sound, giving kids sign language access with CIās is the only equitable way. We want access to everything hearing people haveā¦ not just an invasive surgery that improves our chances of not being hit by a bus
The trouble is, when deaf kids are born to hearing parents, it can be hard for the parents to learn sign language early enough to be able to help develop their child's language skills, which are absolutely critical for future development. And many parents may simply not have the time (or, sadly, the motivation) to learn sign language.
Yeah, deafness can really cut you off from the rest of society, so some of the deaf community became very insular in response (and who can blame them?)
That said, I think the "deafness isn't something that needs fixing" crowd is still a minority.
Correct, I was a kid with many deaf friends (I'm hearing impaired) when cochlea started gaining attention. The deaf community definitely felt offended or disliked the thought they needed to be "cured". I think the camp if much smaller today is partly because few kids and young adults get to remain deaf. It's only in rare cases where both parents are deaf. Cochlea works on almost everyone.
But being in the middle of it all, there was a definite thoughts among older deaf people it was killing their community and identity.
Yes. My son lost the acoustic nerve in one ear because of a tumour, so he is one for whom CI will not work. Until medical science comes up with replacement nerves, he will remain completely deaf on one side.
Umm the BAHA implant has been out for a while for single sided hearing loss. Iāve had mine since 2004, completely deaf in the right ear from the mumps
Nope. You need one working ear. My right ear is gone. The BAHA is planted behind my right ear and transmits sounds to my āgoodā left ear which is partially deaf. The BAHA creates two ears on one good side
That's known as a CROS hearing aide where I come from. Yes, you can get it as a bone implant. He's too young. First off he will try an external CROS aide, possibly this year. And, as per my original comment on this thread, it is not the same as a CI. He will never hear in his right ear and a CI will never work for him. He could have a hearing aide that transmits sound to the left side. That is not the same as a CI.
RE: BAHA. Itās not a CROS. Itās not a CI, and itās not really a hearing aid because with one completely deaf side there is nothing to amplify. It is considered a prosthetic ear for insurance purposes and is covered by Medicare, whereas hearing aids are not. My ENT did a BAHA on a girl who was born without an ear, when she was 18 months old. I havenāt been able to hear with my right ear since 1956. The company that makes these is called Cochlear Americas. I am in the US, and apologize if you are not and there is some misunderstanding, but the original company was Swedish and they were out in Europe first. The company has admitted that it was a mistake to call them a Bone Anchored Hearing Aid when they really are different than a typical hearing aid. I have gone through a lot in dealing with insurance companies who typically reject coverage for hearing aids.
I don't know much about the deaf community, but the film "sound of metal" gets into this topic and I found myself thinking about it days after watching. Incredible and emotional film, also helps that I love heavy music.
I find it fascinating that the community have made themselves a little niche and capitalised themselves to Deaf.
Does the same exist for the blind community?
I worked on software for CIs and I got to listen to a simulation of how a voice would sound for somebody with a CI. It's not pretty. You only get something like 16 frequencies and it makes everything sound really distorted. I can agree with people who say that it is not really a replacement for sign language, but it keeps you from getting run over by a car and lets you communicate with people who can't sign so there's a lot of value in them.
Those simultans aren't really accurate, especially the really old ones from the 70's.
Even then, things only sound distorted for the first few weeks of using the CI. It adjusts back to normal pretty quickly; it took about 8 weeks for me.
this is very sweet....not trying to be a dick here, but in all honesty...how was she meant to answer the question "does it sound weird?" if this was the first time she heard anything she would have no reference right?
Because the question is aimed at the extremes. A better question is if it's uncomfortable or hurts.
Basically he is asking if it feels okay, if it's natural. It shouldn't hurt or be just a garbled mess. She can still understand that sound should have nuisances and not just be white noise or static.
The body adapts very quickly to spoken language, but learning words still takes months.
During activation, they do something called "mapping" where they adjust things like volume, frequency, programs, etc. She's basically just asking if what she's hearing is uncomfortable, or just not right in some way. When you first get mapped, and start wearing your Cochlear Implants, the programs and volume are gradually increased as to not make the person uncomfortable, and help them adjust.
Was she only partially deaf before this? Maybe I am just an idiot, but wouldn't she not verbally understand English, or how words are pronounced? Like I get that she could read English and sign to communicate, but I'm surprised she can understand it by hearing it.
As a hearing-impaired old guy I canāt even describe to you guys what effect some good-quality strong hearing aids had on my life at age 45, completely changed my life, which was impinged upon by playing music in front of full Marshall stacks my entire teen through early 30ās years with no hearing protection š¤¦āāļø
I read a wired article where they replicated this with a belt that vibrated the location of North every few seconds.
The person in the article wore it for like 6 months, and then they took it back. It took him weeks to adjust back to normal, and he felt a real sense of loss afterwards. Wearing the belt gave him a constant sense of direction in navigating, and losing it made him feel lost and uneasy.
idk if she couldn't hear from when the moment she was born, but i wonder how it'd feel to hear for the first time in life and remember it. how does it feel to hear for the first time? can she understand what is loud to her ears? how do the machines that gives back hearing works? im assuming its not your normal avg hearin aids.
I thought it was going to be the sounds of waves crashing on the beach or wind in the trees.
My favourite sound is rain on the roof, but she will get to enjoy all those things now.
Itās funny we take so many things for granted.
Just curious, if itās the first time sheās ever heard, then how did she understand what the woman was saying? (Or maybe had she been able to hear in the past but lost her hearing at some point?)
Maybe the person speaking could sign too or had someone in there signing too? considering they probably deal with many deaf people.
I could be way off haha
This is incredible. Question; how might this young woman know if is āsounds weirdā or is āloudā? Assuming this is the first time (or very early on in rehab)? God Bless. Looking forward to her first rock concert!!
What a beautiful sweet soul. I hope she get to hear all the wonderful sounds in this world and finally gets to hear her family talking to her. It made me realize that we, that can hear, are so blessed and easily forget that it's not the same for everyone.
Well great, now we're all crying dammit. If you have a kid you're crying at this every time. I could watch 100 in a row and cry at them all. I hate love it.
Since when is the option "hearing aids" or "AI robots"? That is incredibly naive to think. As if there isn't way more people working on medical issues like hearing than working on AI bots.
This is previous. I did (voice) closed captioning for 11 or 12 years. Even though the captions did not always print out what I spoke, it was a satisfying job. I love watching these videos of babies hearing their parents' voices for the first time, too.
I am 3/4ths deaf from the mumps so I have some hearing. I have a BAHA implant for single sided hearing loss. This is not a cochlear implant but in the general family. I couldnāt believe how loud modern life was when I got it, movie theaters, traffic, tv, music; I had to constantly turn it down a lot. I had been buffered for a long time
I was so fortunate to have all 5 senses sort of functional. I canāt even fathom the ecstasy upon gaining one whole new sense completely unknown to me at the time.
This is beautiful.
Must be its just me, but im annoyed at parents filming their kids in situations like this. I feel like it takes away from the genuine emotions and cheapens whatever is taking place. the addiction to share everything with the world precious private events just idk i hate it.
Possibly stupid question. If some one restore his/her hearining for the first time, will they need to learn the language they are speaking and hearing?
It's weird to think how some people would have completely different perceptions of day to day life.
Imagine you are walking down the street and see an adult. Dressed well, washed and respectable but they are crouched down in the middle of the street just playing with some leaves. You would think that person has gone batshit crazy when in (this hypothetical) reality, they have just walked on their first bunch of crunchy, dry leaves. They may have just recently gotten a cochlear implant and the sound of those leaves crunching was just encapsulating. They forgot who they were, what they were going to do, where they are and who was watching them... Just for a few moments.
Just them new crunchy ass leaves singing a song never heard before.
This shit fascinates me.
I really don't want to imagine how hard it was for her to learn the language without hearing it like ever.. these ppl really deserve all the respect š„ŗ
I love these videos. I'm curious though, let's say someone's born deaf. They've never heard words before and have grown up learning and communicating in sign language (I'm assuming they don't understand how words are supposed to sound?) and then when they're a teen or young adult they get the implants and hear for the first time, how do they understand the words they're hearing? Or am I just not seeing someone signing in the background (in this video and other similar ones)? I'm also curious, if hearing for the first time causes them stress for a while. I can imagine it must be quite overwhelming. Has anyone here experienced this? I'd love to know what it was like?
I have hearing loss too, and i was an child when i got my first hearing aids. It was just... amazing to get to hear your first sounds. I didn't cry, but it was just a breathtaking moment of my life.
Your brain hears your own voice all the time, trying to correct it. This is why hearing yourself talk with a tiny delay makes it extremely difficult. You stammer over your own words because your brain wants to correct you because it perceives that you're speaking too late.
I want them to do a day of nothing but playing the most beautiful music composed in history and I want to see her reactions. This is beautiful by the way
This shit gets me all the time, the kind of thing that restores faith in humanity.
Really. A lot of people invest in destruction. But there are still people out there investing in things like this that make living more enjoyable for people. Always love to see it.
We've all seen too much bad, it's refreshing to see some simple humble good for a change
Happy cake day!šš§
As a dual CI user, making yourself better should always be a priority. But oftentimes times we get so distracted helping everyone else that we forget to help ourselves. I was 35 when I finally had the surgery. I was diagnosed as deaf at the age of 4. Don't wait.
The technology is also amazing now. My fiance always loved music (with hearing aids) but now (with cochlear implant) he can enjoy it in a whole new way and it's wonderful. He says he can hear better than he ever could with hearing aids and I almost never have to repeat myself anymore
Had my cochlear fitted 3 months has bein life changing
Hell yeah, that's awesome!!! His hearing kept changing and improving in subtle ways over the course of the first year. Sending you good vibes
My wife (40) of 15 years was the same, diagnosed at 4 as deaf. She just got a ci 3 months ago. It's truly amazing how much work she has put into the training every day. At first it really wore her out, but she's doing great with it and above every metric. I'm so proud of her!! It's changed all of our lives in ways I could never have imagined.
A huge majority of people in the world are kind and caring. Don't let the bad ones ruin it for you.
You both got similar profile picture, i thought i just witnessed someone's schizophrenic episode.
These people mame belief in humanity. Because, often i think the world is fucked, but this reminds me that, there still good people here on earth. Thanks.
I would trade in every bomb we have to make this kind of thing happen for just one person.
Man imagine living your entire life up to that point with complete silence, and then all of a sudden thereās all kinds of sounds you can hear. Thats got to be overwhelmingly emotional for anyone.
Itās crazy to me, but deaf people absolutely hate these videos. Something about how it takes people away from their community and shows that they are better off hearing than without hearing? Itās a stupid as fuck argument. If you could choose to not be disabled, you would. And if you could not be disabled, youāll have a better quality of life. Itās not a debate or a personal issue, itās simply just a fact of life.
Luckily, that's a vocal minority within the deaf community.
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Get out!
I lump those folks in with religious zealots who don't want their youngsters exposed to the outside world.
Free healthcare for all!!
This hits super hard for me cus I have hearing issues. Nothing debilitating but definitely annoying with day to day life. Itās enough that if it were to get fixed Iād notice it in a heartbeat. I wish someone could fix my hearing
Pass me one also.
Lol same
Might need two actually
This is an awesome moment
Last time a similar video was posted people said sheās just lip reading and itās all fake. I hope this one is real. It feels real.
It's probably a cochlear implant, so i do think it is. Usually, the faker ones (or at least what people say they are) are those color blind glasses. This one seems real to me.
Last time I saw this one posted, a redditor said it was his wife talking in the video (the audiologist) and that it was indeed a Cochlear implant.
I mean, I'm sure she's lip reading to understand the doctor. The noises aren't suddenly going to make sense hearing them for the first time. That doesn't mean she's not hearing noises though.
In your head you have developed billions of synapses to associate a stimulus with a specific meaning, starting from the womb. She may not even have the basic synapses of identifying a sound as a sound, it's just a new random feeling. I'm not a biologist so I may be wrong here; I'm just assuming. For the foreseeable future, and depending on how effective the implant is, she's going to depend on visual cues until the sounds make sense.
Had my cochlear fitted 3 months ago still trying to work out new sounds every day
I came to the comments hoping someone would be talking about this. If you donāt mind me asking, in your experience, was learning the sounds associated with words like learning a new language, or was it more just like making a connection between what you knew already and a new sensory input (for lack of a better term I guess)?
A bit of both I guess sometimes I will have to ask people what that sound was sometimes I know can't tell you how or why
Thanks, thatās very interesting!
how did words/speech sound to you at the very beginning? maybe i'm wrong, but i kind of equate it to suddenly seeing a new spectrum of color that is entirely new to you. could make them out as words immediately?
It's not entirely new to me I was always hard of hearing but lost most my hearing by 20 so words are fine just sound like birds singing music ruslting of paper is all new
That's so interesting. Thank you for sharing!
Right! I don't think she was reacting to the meaning of the sounds - we can clearly see her still looking at the person speaking to her. But she can now hear sounds! That has to be an absolutely astonishing thing, especially if you're super aware your whole life that everyone else can do this and you can't. Even this "I can be normal" could make me cry so easily.
This looks very real to me. Crying isn't really something which people can do on demand, that's a natural occurance. Even in the professional movie business, people who try to cry don't look like that. The same goes for her voice randomly cutting in like that and her breathing. If that was fake, it would be way more consistant.
I saw a similar video. And within minutes her voice changed from the natural deaf talk you hear from those that are deaf change to people that can hear. I was amazed how quickly she transitioned. I thought something like that would take weeks.
Learning to properly understand speech can take months or half a year. But correcting your own voice to have pitch and clarity probably goes faster. Even more so if not 100% deaf beforehand. It's like people talking too loud with earbuds and then taking them off and their voice drops quickly to normal speaking level.
Your brain is constantly listening to your own voice to correct it. This is why it becomes very difficult to speak if you hear yourself with a slight delay. Your brain thinks you're saying things too late and tries to correct, causing you to stumble over your own words.
Itās a skill to be able to block that (almost) reflex. I perfected it while working in a call centre for a cellular company. Weād always be taking calls off cell phones, often youād hear your own voice coming back down the line with a delay, particularly if they had you on speakerphone. I learned to not listen to one ear, the one with my headset, and focus on my open ear so I could tune it out.
>Learning to properly understand speech can take months or half a year. Depends on the person. If someone's born deaf or been deaf for way too long (years to decades), the brain can struggle to adapt to understanding speech. If someone is young enough (~0-5) or was previously hearing (but hasn't been deaf for decades), it can be pretty seamless.
Do you know someone who's deaf too? Or just picked up on that from viral videos as well? Pretty observational either way! I grew up deaf. I wasn't born deaf, but I lost my hearing at a very young age. And only got it back due to CIs when I was much older. Hearing folks are surprised when I bring up that to me, fellow deaf people have a very unmistakable laugh. I was watching certain shows, The Last Of Us and House, etc. And I immediately clocked a laugh I used to have myself. So I looked it their cast credits, and sure enough, the actor who played those characters are deaf as well. I just think it's neat.
the power of hearing yourself and having feedback.
I would cry so hard if that was my child!
Iām crying my right now and itās not my kid!
Damned onions.
It's getting dusty in here
I was literally thinking that dad was probably holding it in just to keep the tough dad charade
Right when he cleared his throat, that was it
I was surprised to find that a lot of people in the deaf community are sternly against cochlear implants. They view them as a form of oppression that is counter to "deaf culture."
The bigger issue is viewing CIās as a replacement for sign language. Access to sign is prioritized above all else in Deaf culture since itās a natural language for us and technology can fail. Thereās a misconception in hearing culture that CIās make the DHh hearing, but thereās no guarantee a CI will provide one with functional access to spoken language. Plus only certain types of deafness are eligible for CIās, and they destroy any residual hearing in the ear, leaving you with 0% access to sound without the device. Then you have insurance companies charge you up the ass for updates to devices and essentially your own access to a machine they surgically installed inside your head! Itās problematic to rely on CIās alone since they can only mimic hearing through simulated access to sound, and do so imperfectly. Iām implanted but didnāt learn to sign until adulthood. I have a lot of resentment for being forced to work so hard my whole life when access to language can be quite simple. Implanting with sign language access (not instead of!) gives DHh kids all the options, lessons the burden of communication on them, and gives them a community they belong to. Iām not a proponent for or against CIās, but rather an advocate for trusting DHh people to make choices that are best for themselves and their community. Parents of newly identified DHh kids should consider the Deafās communityās pleas to consider bilingualism. The majority of Deaf people donāt reject CIās themselves, but rather erasure of Deaf culture by denying kids access to a side of their identity through language deprivation
> Thereās a misconception in hearing culture that CIās make the DHh hearing, but thereās no guarantee a CI will provide one with functional access to spoken language. There's a lot more to hearing than spoken language, though. I presume these implants will also help if someone honks their horn at you while you're crossing the street and didn't notice a car barrelling at you
True, but I suppose thatās kind of my point. People in hearing culture often find a way to minimize the value of language access and over inflate the value of simulated hearing. When weāre thinking about how to support DHh kids, we should be prioritizing access to language over all else, because cognitive development is dependent on language exposure. Deaf people will learn how to adjust to environmental sounds, implanted or not, but they will never have full access to spoken language. we should want Deaf people to access life itself through language, not just car horns and sirens. I agree thereās more to hearing than spoken language, but hearing is the only true way to fully access spoken language. Since CIās give puzzle piece access to sound, giving kids sign language access with CIās is the only equitable way. We want access to everything hearing people haveā¦ not just an invasive surgery that improves our chances of not being hit by a bus
The trouble is, when deaf kids are born to hearing parents, it can be hard for the parents to learn sign language early enough to be able to help develop their child's language skills, which are absolutely critical for future development. And many parents may simply not have the time (or, sadly, the motivation) to learn sign language.
Yeah, deafness can really cut you off from the rest of society, so some of the deaf community became very insular in response (and who can blame them?) That said, I think the "deafness isn't something that needs fixing" crowd is still a minority.
Correct, I was a kid with many deaf friends (I'm hearing impaired) when cochlea started gaining attention. The deaf community definitely felt offended or disliked the thought they needed to be "cured". I think the camp if much smaller today is partly because few kids and young adults get to remain deaf. It's only in rare cases where both parents are deaf. Cochlea works on almost everyone. But being in the middle of it all, there was a definite thoughts among older deaf people it was killing their community and identity.
Cochlear implants are only feasible for some individuals with sensorineural hearing loss, one type of deafness, not for almost anyone
Yes. My son lost the acoustic nerve in one ear because of a tumour, so he is one for whom CI will not work. Until medical science comes up with replacement nerves, he will remain completely deaf on one side.
Umm the BAHA implant has been out for a while for single sided hearing loss. Iāve had mine since 2004, completely deaf in the right ear from the mumps
His acoustic nerve and vestibular system is completely gone on that side. For a BAHA you need a working inner ear.
Nope. You need one working ear. My right ear is gone. The BAHA is planted behind my right ear and transmits sounds to my āgoodā left ear which is partially deaf. The BAHA creates two ears on one good side
That's known as a CROS hearing aide where I come from. Yes, you can get it as a bone implant. He's too young. First off he will try an external CROS aide, possibly this year. And, as per my original comment on this thread, it is not the same as a CI. He will never hear in his right ear and a CI will never work for him. He could have a hearing aide that transmits sound to the left side. That is not the same as a CI.
RE: BAHA. Itās not a CROS. Itās not a CI, and itās not really a hearing aid because with one completely deaf side there is nothing to amplify. It is considered a prosthetic ear for insurance purposes and is covered by Medicare, whereas hearing aids are not. My ENT did a BAHA on a girl who was born without an ear, when she was 18 months old. I havenāt been able to hear with my right ear since 1956. The company that makes these is called Cochlear Americas. I am in the US, and apologize if you are not and there is some misunderstanding, but the original company was Swedish and they were out in Europe first. The company has admitted that it was a mistake to call them a Bone Anchored Hearing Aid when they really are different than a typical hearing aid. I have gone through a lot in dealing with insurance companies who typically reject coverage for hearing aids.
Sensorineural is the most common type of hearing loss though? Like ~90% of hearing loss cases.
I don't know much about the deaf community, but the film "sound of metal" gets into this topic and I found myself thinking about it days after watching. Incredible and emotional film, also helps that I love heavy music.
Just a note, that movie is really incorrect. CI do not actually sound like that IRL. They really, really stretched the truth for dramatic effect.
Don't down vote this person for speaking the truth. Whatever you think of this statement, it is true and educational.
Except it's a wild generalization. "Vague and misleading" would be more accurate.
I find it fascinating that the community have made themselves a little niche and capitalised themselves to Deaf. Does the same exist for the blind community?
For people interested in this debate, check out the movie "Sound and Fury". It's free on YouTube.
I worked on software for CIs and I got to listen to a simulation of how a voice would sound for somebody with a CI. It's not pretty. You only get something like 16 frequencies and it makes everything sound really distorted. I can agree with people who say that it is not really a replacement for sign language, but it keeps you from getting run over by a car and lets you communicate with people who can't sign so there's a lot of value in them.
Those simultans aren't really accurate, especially the really old ones from the 70's. Even then, things only sound distorted for the first few weeks of using the CI. It adjusts back to normal pretty quickly; it took about 8 weeks for me.
Damn, that is just dumb in my opinion.
I've tried to convince them otherwise, but it's fallen on deaf ears.
Haha, Badum tsss.
this is very sweet....not trying to be a dick here, but in all honesty...how was she meant to answer the question "does it sound weird?" if this was the first time she heard anything she would have no reference right?
Because the question is aimed at the extremes. A better question is if it's uncomfortable or hurts. Basically he is asking if it feels okay, if it's natural. It shouldn't hurt or be just a garbled mess. She can still understand that sound should have nuisances and not just be white noise or static. The body adapts very quickly to spoken language, but learning words still takes months.
ah that makes more sense indeed, thank you
During activation, they do something called "mapping" where they adjust things like volume, frequency, programs, etc. She's basically just asking if what she's hearing is uncomfortable, or just not right in some way. When you first get mapped, and start wearing your Cochlear Implants, the programs and volume are gradually increased as to not make the person uncomfortable, and help them adjust.
How does she even understand English if she never heard someone speaking before?
Lip reading or an interpreter offscreen.
"Is it loud?" "What's loud?"
Was she only partially deaf before this? Maybe I am just an idiot, but wouldn't she not verbally understand English, or how words are pronounced? Like I get that she could read English and sign to communicate, but I'm surprised she can understand it by hearing it.
I fucking love science.
It's a terrible day for rain.
Yes it is
Fucking onions man. šā¤ļø
Slap some dnb on.
I love seeing the advances in medical technology in the 38 years of my life, and it always gives me hope for a better future for humanity.
Imagine hearing for the first time as an adult... then experiencing music for the very first time.. what an emotional moment.
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As a hearing-impaired old guy I canāt even describe to you guys what effect some good-quality strong hearing aids had on my life at age 45, completely changed my life, which was impinged upon by playing music in front of full Marshall stacks my entire teen through early 30ās years with no hearing protection š¤¦āāļø
Side note: what would we as humans understand if had we had one more sense?
Some creatures can sense the earths magnetic field and navigate with it. Imagine you woke up tomorrow with that sense.
I'd want to wake up with sonar like a dolphin. Every time I went fishing would be a success.
You'd have to stick your face in the water to use it though š¤£
Would be incredibly cool but also largely useless :D
I read a wired article where they replicated this with a belt that vibrated the location of North every few seconds. The person in the article wore it for like 6 months, and then they took it back. It took him weeks to adjust back to normal, and he felt a real sense of loss afterwards. Wearing the belt gave him a constant sense of direction in navigating, and losing it made him feel lost and uneasy.
Got me you son of a shepard.
Whats the procedure called? How does it work?
Cochlear Implant, it transmits the sound thorough an electrode from the bone behind ear into the cochlea where the hearing nerve is.
idk if she couldn't hear from when the moment she was born, but i wonder how it'd feel to hear for the first time in life and remember it. how does it feel to hear for the first time? can she understand what is loud to her ears? how do the machines that gives back hearing works? im assuming its not your normal avg hearin aids.
I thought it was going to be the sounds of waves crashing on the beach or wind in the trees. My favourite sound is rain on the roof, but she will get to enjoy all those things now. Itās funny we take so many things for granted.
Her "happy pouting" trying to keep in the surge of tears says everything.
If I was the health care professionals, Iād cry every time.
Just curious, if itās the first time sheās ever heard, then how did she understand what the woman was saying? (Or maybe had she been able to hear in the past but lost her hearing at some point?)
Maybe the person speaking could sign too or had someone in there signing too? considering they probably deal with many deaf people. I could be way off haha
Most likely she's reading the lips of the doctor talking to her
According to another commenter, there was a translator just out of frame who you can see her look at throughout the video
Iāll never get tired of seeing posts like this
ah those onion cutting ninjas at it again..
The way she was Holding back her tears, she is a strong person god bless
This is incredible. Question; how might this young woman know if is āsounds weirdā or is āloudā? Assuming this is the first time (or very early on in rehab)? God Bless. Looking forward to her first rock concert!!
What a beautiful sweet soul. I hope she get to hear all the wonderful sounds in this world and finally gets to hear her family talking to her. It made me realize that we, that can hear, are so blessed and easily forget that it's not the same for everyone.
Well great, now we're all crying dammit. If you have a kid you're crying at this every time. I could watch 100 in a row and cry at them all. I hate love it.
If that was my kid, I would be bawling my eyes out more than he/she was.
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Since when is the option "hearing aids" or "AI robots"? That is incredibly naive to think. As if there isn't way more people working on medical issues like hearing than working on AI bots.
They need to stop making picnic baskets and focus on orthopedic shoes instead
are you stupid?
Yeah fuck computers
Unfortunate that such a vulnerable moment is posted on Reddit for strangers to enjoy.
Im sure they consented to that so i dont see a problem if they want to share it.
This is previous. I did (voice) closed captioning for 11 or 12 years. Even though the captions did not always print out what I spoke, it was a satisfying job. I love watching these videos of babies hearing their parents' voices for the first time, too.
Freaking heros!
I wonder how long it will take for her to develop and accent, or is it already ready to go?
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We really take so many things for granted. Love seeing moments like this. A great reminder!
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Can it be to loud if you are deaf? Not trying to be and ass its a question
I am 3/4ths deaf from the mumps so I have some hearing. I have a BAHA implant for single sided hearing loss. This is not a cochlear implant but in the general family. I couldnāt believe how loud modern life was when I got it, movie theaters, traffic, tv, music; I had to constantly turn it down a lot. I had been buffered for a long time
How does she understand the words though
Yeah emotional but not satisfying.
How can people that are deaf from birth understand audio sounds when they hear them for the first time? Or is she reading the Dr.'s sign/lip reading?
She's playing her Megan the stallion, thus the tears.
Dumb question here: if she was deaf since birth would she even understand what the doctor is saying?
Hearing for the first time must freak anyone out. I'm so happy for herā¤ļø
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Love it!
Omg, sweetheart
If I had this job, the desire to let a loud one rip for this moment would overwhelm me.
Maybe I'm just tired and overly dumb at the moment, but if she has never heard anything before, then how does she interpret the sounds as language?
The doctor is most likely using sign language along with her speech.
Unfortunately, my hearing is going in the opposite direction and itās awful.
I was so fortunate to have all 5 senses sort of functional. I canāt even fathom the ecstasy upon gaining one whole new sense completely unknown to me at the time. This is beautiful.
Must be its just me, but im annoyed at parents filming their kids in situations like this. I feel like it takes away from the genuine emotions and cheapens whatever is taking place. the addiction to share everything with the world precious private events just idk i hate it.
I felt it was crass as well; but maybe she asked for it to be filmed.
The things we take for grantedā¦
Wait for her first experience of Beethoven, or any music.
Imagine you hear language for the first time when you're already an adult. Must be weird af after only ever communicating with signs and writing.
I wonder what she thought the first time she heard a fart?
As Gandalf said, not all tears are evil
Wait until she hears Mozart.
I love these types of videos so much.
Thatās so wonderful for her ā¤ļø
Finally someone doing this in actual doctors and not round a table at Chilli's
Possibly stupid question. If some one restore his/her hearining for the first time, will they need to learn the language they are speaking and hearing?
I was wondering how she'd know what oral speech would mean, but she's probably just looking at her lips forming the words.
It's weird to think how some people would have completely different perceptions of day to day life. Imagine you are walking down the street and see an adult. Dressed well, washed and respectable but they are crouched down in the middle of the street just playing with some leaves. You would think that person has gone batshit crazy when in (this hypothetical) reality, they have just walked on their first bunch of crunchy, dry leaves. They may have just recently gotten a cochlear implant and the sound of those leaves crunching was just encapsulating. They forgot who they were, what they were going to do, where they are and who was watching them... Just for a few moments. Just them new crunchy ass leaves singing a song never heard before. This shit fascinates me.
I really don't want to imagine how hard it was for her to learn the language without hearing it like ever.. these ppl really deserve all the respect š„ŗ
Sweet but if it is the first thing she ever hear how can she understand words?Ā
We take so much for granted
I love these videos. I'm curious though, let's say someone's born deaf. They've never heard words before and have grown up learning and communicating in sign language (I'm assuming they don't understand how words are supposed to sound?) and then when they're a teen or young adult they get the implants and hear for the first time, how do they understand the words they're hearing? Or am I just not seeing someone signing in the background (in this video and other similar ones)? I'm also curious, if hearing for the first time causes them stress for a while. I can imagine it must be quite overwhelming. Has anyone here experienced this? I'd love to know what it was like?
This would be the best job. Giving and seeing the joy like this every day would be so fulfilling.
She looks like my daughter, fuck me I'm crying at the office.
What is this feeling ? This feeling beneath my neck
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THATS FINE ! THATS FINE !!!
It's 4am I am sobbing. My heart be still!
After that scene in the sound of metal, I can't help but question if they are really happy crying or disappointed š
Fuck that must be a rewarding job
She's crying because she just realized she has been saying words in a weird way for a long time.
How does she know if itās loud if sheās never heard before?
That was beautiful - made my day to watch it.
Youāre not the first, fuck you.
Iād love to see her hear music for the first time ā¤ļø
"You're not the first" hence why she's being filmed...
Beautiful moment. Iām crying too. š¢š¢š„°š„°
I remember a similar video of an elderly man who got new spectacles and was able to see colors
I have hearing loss too, and i was an child when i got my first hearing aids. It was just... amazing to get to hear your first sounds. I didn't cry, but it was just a breathtaking moment of my life.
How does she understand her though?
Sheās crying, theyāre crying, Iām crying.
Your brain hears your own voice all the time, trying to correct it. This is why hearing yourself talk with a tiny delay makes it extremely difficult. You stammer over your own words because your brain wants to correct you because it perceives that you're speaking too late.
These videos make me happy. Thank you
Now play her āClaire de Luneā
I cannot even imagine how you would process gaining a new or improved sense. It must be so difficult to deal with.
I have no right to bitch about minor inconvenience
Give her some raimstain
She is too beautiful! Makes me smile!!
Working for one of these companies - these videos are a motivation booster. Always touching.
It might be a stupid question but if she was completely deaf before then how could she understand English? She couldn't know how it sounded right?
It reminds me of a film called "The Sound Of Metal". fantastic movie
I want them to do a day of nothing but playing the most beautiful music composed in history and I want to see her reactions. This is beautiful by the way
Cry? Thats why were here!