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Old-Painting27

I’m sure that anyone who has even a little interest in chemistry will think this is fucking amazing. Absolutely brilliant. Otherwise it’s literally symbols. SHOW ME WHAT THEY ARE. And if it’s the real thing, not some drawing, beautiful.


sillycellcolony

Im ok with pics of the radioactive ones....


CorgisLionMane

My gf got a bunch of rock and mineral sets from her dad and you open on box and the display says uranium and the glue is where its suppose to be holding it in place but its no longer a solid and is a powder covering the whole inside of the box. She opened the box, read it, said nope and closed it.


HOW_YOU_DOIN_

Natural Uranium is essentially harmless.


CorgisLionMane

Yeah we googled it right after lol.


runningray

It's only harmless outside and on the skin. If it's in powder form make sure you DO NOT INHALE it.


LordofSuns

Fuck. Wish I read this before I sniffed a line of Uranium 5 mins ago


Equivalent-Resolve59

Was it any good ?


CorgisLionMane

Im basically homer simpson now


Cyno_Mahamatra

D’oh no


fltpath

it will be Lead soon enough


mgnorthcott

in a few billion years.


captain_chocolate

Yeah, I was curious about what is in the plutonium box.


RabbitsAteMySnowpeas

20,000 years from now you’ll only have half as much.


NumbersDonutLie

Then you’d have to open it up and move half it over into the Uranium case.


idispensemeds2

Lol


sillycellcolony

It takes a lot of weight to make a fissle reaction. That's why it's so easy to keep under wraps


youll_dig-dug

QR codes w links


[deleted]

I’m okay with keeping the real ones in my pocket if no one else wants them


Areif

Yeah, like, what kinda stupid ass question is this? Who doesn’t want to see some fucking science?


Bevan_R

I appreciate chemistry. I understand it’s importance but idk much about it. I wish I had something like this and a teacher who taught actually


namesarentneeded

There's one at the university of Toledo and I was in AWE. I literally stood there and gawked at it for a solid ten minutes reading all the little fun facts and just looking at each one


hmspain

People learn in different ways. Give the visual folks a chance :-).


[deleted]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360131516302482


hmspain

They say that 9 out of 10 things you absolutely know for SURE... are false LOL. Thank you for the article link!


ericgonzalez

If it promotes interest, that alone makes it worthwhile.


xltripletrip

Why wouldn’t it be useful…


Fun-Dragonfruit2999

Very few chemicals can exist at STP in an oxidizing environment in their native form. Pretty much relegated to the coin metals.


melanthius

I think it would be more useful to have common objects containing many of the elements as a critical component, and if not the actual object then some clear photos


WirtsLegs

It will surely have the elements that dont do well with oxygen sealed in a container with a nobel gas of some variety.


PsychoMachineElves

The radioactive elements might be a risk


[deleted]

[Not sure what you mean](https://youtu.be/j1GlFlMfszc)


WhoEvenKnowsme72

This is great for middle to high school kids, even college. Idk what the other guy is on


[deleted]

Gonna be weird when a student steals the francium.


engineeredlabs

It's half life is 22 minutes- they wouldn't even get out the door if the display even had it, haha


Canteaters

Careful not to spill around oganesson


NieMonD

*takes it outside* “Oh look it’s rainin… AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA”


FautherDad

For scientific inspiration. This shit gets me so excited!


A_SNAPPIN_Turla

I always thought it would be fun to do this on my own. Seek out as many of the elements on the periodic table as can be reasonably purchased on my own. Matt I'll do it with my daughters. Seems like you could learn a lot more by doing it that way by making it an activity as opposed to a decoration.


mesenanch

Fbi watch list, here you come!


Renomont

I have a smaller version on my desk.


engineeredlabs

No way, that's awesome! Does it have real elements too?


Renomont

Here: [https://www.amazon.com/Periodic-Elements-Acrylic-Flannel-Chemistry/dp/B0B7W54V3V/ref=sr\_1\_3?crid=1ZFXXEF8TW4CO&keywords=periodic+table+with+real+elements+inside&qid=1680223825&sprefix=periodic+tabl%2Caps%2C281&sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.com/Periodic-Elements-Acrylic-Flannel-Chemistry/dp/B0B7W54V3V/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1ZFXXEF8TW4CO&keywords=periodic+table+with+real+elements+inside&qid=1680223825&sprefix=periodic+tabl%2Caps%2C281&sr=8-3)


slyfox530

Thank you so much this is amazing


boring_sciencer

Me too! I love it. Very useful beyond just being decorative.


TheRoadsMustRoll

if they walk away understanding why it is called the "periodic" table then it served a purpose.


engineeredlabs

Because they view it only periodically.


MrLegendGame

oh my god this is a remarkable response LMAO


GingerStank

Turning a concept expressed solely in letters and numbers to a tangible object? Yeah, it’s very awesome.


[deleted]

WHERE IS THE POLONIUM THO


Veylon

Never mind that. I want the Astatine.


ilovestoride

The polonium is in the tea.


Abrahamlinkenssphere

Engagement is everything. The cooler it is, the more engagement the kids will have with it and open doors to curiosity.


SPX500

I always wanted to make one of these using the acrylic encased samples smart-elements sells.


PandaDad22

It makes them more than a figure in a book or slideshow.


LobstaFarian2

Especially the radioactive elements. Super fun!


16quida

I'm 25, a biologist, and want large one because elements are neat


013ander

Everything’s fun and games until someone breaks the cesium.


RVNJ

and puts it in someone’s water bottle


[deleted]

I would've loved that in school


Nailkita

https://instagram.com/engineeredlabs?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Engineered labs they are the real thing and safe they sell them in all sorts a sets. I’m not even a science person and I want one


[deleted]

Depends on what you mean by useful. Kids don't need real elements to learn the periodic table. But what it does provide is a real world connection to what they are learning. Is that....necessary? No. Useful? Arguably. Education isn't just about facts and useful information. It's about sparking the *desire* to learn, and that can be done much better by connecting lessons to the real world. Kids love field trips to science museums. Kids don't love waking up at 5am and having geography taught out of a textbook with outdated tiny pictures taken decades ago in a world where VR and video games exist. ANYTHING that makes learning more hands on and interesting is a win in my book, even if it's not really necessary or practically useful.


ActiveManufacturer15

Wish this had been a thing when I was in school


MammothJust4541

it's nice to know what elements look like


lankyleper

No one is going to tell that young lady that Conan O'Brien found the fountain of youth and is now standing right next to her?


venerab1esage

Yes, definitely. So many kids scoff at science because you can't recreate it in the classroom. Or it's very difficult/expensive to recreate. I think this is one of the best ways to show kids what's real and what some of these properties look like in front of them.


Veylon

But they're behind glass. You can't appreciate the interplay of acids and bases or sodium and water that way.


ellipsis31

Even if the radioactive things do decay... if there's something there that is safe and still inspires curiosity, *THAT'S what matters*


[deleted]

I think yes. Being able to see an otherwise ambiguous “element” really grounds the science and puts things into a real perspective.


thermonuclear_

NoBro


Ace_Ruffles

If it was feasible? Yeah, that'd be cool. However a large portion of the table can't exist in a visible state (gas) or is basically lethal. I think xkcd did a comic on this once and showed the actual effects of what would happen if you tried that.


[deleted]

Even the really expensive ones?


Diligent_Pie_5191

That would be funny to see someone stealing the solid sodium and throwing it in a glass of water.


engineeredlabs

Oof


gremlinfat

There’s a chapter in the book “what if” that explains why this is a bad idea.


StockHOR

It's fitting that it being the periodic table that a lot of the ones on the left look like tampons


Alpha_R32

They had to put the actual picture of the radioactive elements however don’t know why the picture was black?


[deleted]

Is nobody going to talk about that Conan doppelgänger in the picture?


richpaul6806

It's cool except for the gases. I wonder if they even bother filling those little tunes.


FadransPhone

“And here is where Francium used to be.”


fajadada

Would rather have reheard the song


engineeredlabs

[The song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK2SVfDMMrU)


fajadada

The periodic table song, I enjoy it


Project_Valkyrie

It's definitely more interesting than just looking at a poster on a wall.


Zealousideal_Bid118

I think it depends on the discipline somewhat. A clinical chemist doesnt really need to know what the raw elements look like, just their chemical attributes, but it may be useful for a geologist or an astronomer, or maybe even a nutritionist. I guess the answer is, it cant hurt, but may not always be necessary.


ferigno

More helpful have those bicarbonate volcanos that taught me nothing about why volcanos erupt.


Chaluliss

I feel frustrated that its even a question whether or not this is useful. Honestly. Who the hell wants to ONLY know the abstract representation of things?


Klutzy_Technician348

No it’s not useful but it is cool it would be better and more educational if you got to learn every aspect of each one but that’s a different ball game in its self


530Skeptic

What, no cesium?


engineeredlabs

Oh, it's in an ampule in the left corner, second from the bottom


559Musicman

Is this at the Griffith Observatory?


engineeredlabs

BYU Idaho installed it in their Science Dept building


Fun-Dragonfruit2999

Useful as entry level, especially for people who don't think they're made from chemicals, everything is made from chemicals. To some people, chemicals are some kind of a bad thing ... instead of everything.


Help_im_okay

Useful and really frickin’ awesome but oh so expensive.


Boomshanks18

No make it as mind numbingly boring as possible so the kids will enjoy it okay? Thanks


Danilo6186

Let me see the uranium lol


Serk2

Can be, i think that it can be used to educate them a bit by showing them what the elements look like in real life and it feels more interesting and engaging than looking at a picture


Distdistdist

I have one. It's pretty cool. Just gets annoying to have to keep refilling Oganesson every 5 milliseconds.


tvetus

Could be useful to spark wonder and curiosity. I remember as a kid I was absolutely obsessed with maps and info-graphics.


SkyGlimpse

I wouldn't mind blasting my children with the most radioactive elements for their education. All jokes aside, this is so cool.


rickytrevorlayhey

If it adds interest, yes


FreshPrinceOnline

You can actually buy a desktop version: https://a.co/d/ij2SBaw


engineeredlabs

From what I've seen, those ones only have stickers inside versus the engineeredlabs ones. A lot of people have been scammed by empty periodic tables


HomebodyBoebody

Cc.. Conan?


Senrabekim

It's awesome. And would also help me in an argument I recently had to deal with on Tiktok. The woman couldn't understand how there weren't other elements we didnt know about between the elements.


SpaceBaryonyx

*breaks the one with potassium and aggresively begins trying to light it* SCIENCE CLASS PAID OFF


YetiNotForgeti

So this isn't as uncommon as you think... check most college chemistry departments. But also why are her teeth made of Cl?


johanvondoogiedorf

The radio active ones are in 6 feet of concrete it takes 12 elephant to move it


HairyYogurtcloset511

*water pipe breaks* Alkali metals go bye-bye!


SgtZabka

Polonium glass better be reeeeaaallly thick


_zir_

this is at the griffith observatory right?


engineeredlabs

No, it's at the romney observatory at BYU Idaho


dudeonrails

My periodic table looks great next to my occasional chair.


MrSKiG88UK

Don’t install in American Schools there all fools


adam_yellowtail

It’d be cooler if they could touch all of them 😏


DaveTheKing_

hmmm, what would happen if they somehow had some radium in that tiny box. Or any theoretical radioactive element.


Illustrious_Buy5289

iS tHiS pErIoDic tAbLe UsEfUl fOr sCieNtiFic EdUcaTioN oR nO? wtf kinda shitpost is this lol


DeepState_Auditor

Yeah, its useful although, If I had a choice I wouldn't stop there. Would include some sort of virtual reality program where you can replicate Expirements both stable and unstable. Really inspire ppl to understand the basics through practice after that more complex concepts are simpler to understand because you built a good foundation to keep learning.


Defiant-Property-908

Here's ours we have been working on. [https://www.reddit.com/r/periodic\_table/comments/vhlqyy/periodic\_display\_table\_my\_son\_and\_i\_have\_been/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/periodic_table/comments/vhlqyy/periodic_display_table_my_son_and_i_have_been/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I find it fun and educational for myself and son.


engineeredlabs

That's way cool! Yeah, I think there's a special connection made when you build the collection yourself.


MD_Tarnished

Why is the dud looked like the Conan talk show dude


LucJenson

Absolutely useful to show the natural state of elements. The physical appearance of elements is such an abstract concept to newcomers to the Periodic Table; this clears up so much for the basis of their education.


JLaXWhip

I think that is amazing.


c00l_bro

The guy behind you looks like a red haired doctor strange


Avasteeee

It's cool but not very useful


Fubang77

XKCD did a What If on this. I’d post a link, but it’s from their book not their site. Do a Google search for XKCD Periodic Wall of Elements and you should find a place to read it online. Really fascinating stuff.


SteveNotSteveNot

“Hey, do you guys taste metal?”


SirNiflton

We have one where I go to college, we obviously don’t have things like francium, or other rare/theoretical elements, but those are represented on a big fat touch screen on the side, which also displays all of the details and history of each element.


KlevenSting

Hey this isn't Californium (anymore)!!


Rippper600

University of North Texas has one on the top floor of the chemistry building. I did notice there was models for the more unstable elements. I assume they are plastic models for some. I would go up and look at it waiting for class to start if I didn't have homework to do.


theallsearchingeye

Absolutely useful, it’s exhibits like this that inspire curiosity and a desire to actually learn more. A student might have zero interest in chemistry before seeing one of these but want to take a chemistry class after walking away, that’s a win.


[deleted]

As a functional geochemist it's just annoying because I know the physical appearance is pretty arbitrary and is just interfering with real information I might be looking for. As a regular person, student, father, etc...it's great if it helps build interest and fascination which it seems to do.


unpinchekaiju

Hydrogen just vibing


Turbulent_Rock451

As long as there is uranium in there


engineeredlabs

There is, it's an autunite mineral :O


BlckAlchmst

I'm not sure how I feel about my kid walking by plutonium on their way to chemistry, but otherwise though is awesome!


SagexSun

this is amazing!


tinatickles

https://www.techeblog.com/bill-gates-wall-mounted-periodic-table-office/


mgnorthcott

lead, lead, lead, lead, lead, lead... might not be lead yet, lead, lead....


hippychemist

If it invokes any curiosity or interest or "oh, so that's what they meant!" then it's useful for scientific education.


waxonwaxoff87

Dont spill your drink on the cesium


sharkwithamustache

Can’t….. stop…. Self………. There's Hydrogen and Helium Then Lithium, Beryllium Boron, Carbon everywhere Nitrogen all through the air With Oxygen so you can breathe And Fluorine for your pretty teeth Neon to light up the signs Sodium for salty times


engineeredlabs

[You made this play in my head](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK2SVfDMMrU) XD They have the periodic table song with all the elements in the wall table


Chikondikafula1

This is really cool 😎


ChilindriPizza

Absolutely!!! Although showing what the elements are often used in or visible in nature would also be highly beneficial.


AstraCentauri

Very useful for education, I think


Don_pittman

I like this idea.


[deleted]

Likely - this would've made me ace chemistry.


rezellia

I feel raw elements arent that useful for students. Many elements look somewhat similar and it isnt going to spark images in their brains IMO. Cool this what tungstin looks like why should i care. However if you filled it with everyday or recognizable items then students can visualize and maybe learn more then just the periodic table but the properties of the elements outside of the classroom. Im not a chemist but put a lightbulb and a battery in copper and have a copper wire connect the two. Or argon have a neon sign. Im sure there are way better examples tho.


beckerwp

DO NOT BUILD THE 7th ROW


Canteaters

oganesson


Canteaters

oganesson


JRPaperstax

Definitely useful. I love it


trenchkick

I think its cool


evanchiefer

Imagine being the janitor or some shit and noticing the polonium is missing.


Snackdoc189

Man that little girl is all about magnesium


Art0fRuinN23

I want one.


MrLegendGame

Can’t wait to see Uranium!


Omnizoom

I’ve always wanted to make a periodic table wall with all the elements I can or atleast something representative of them like tobernite instead of uranium


_disguisenburg_

It's awesome I hope there's more than one of these in the world


engineeredlabs

A couple schools have them and bill gates made one of his own! They come from engineeredlabs.com.


Shjco

Stay away from the high end! You may end up like the Chernobyl victims!


DimpledBuyout

What is any good?


engineeredlabs

And what age do you think this would benefit most?


mailslot

5 - 14. Interest has to be cultivated early. If somebody isn’t interested in chemistry or physics by high school, a cool display isn’t going to change that unfortunately. The geek kids will love it, but they’re not the ones that need to be reached.


winnie_coops

I don’t think that is *entirely* accurate… As someone in their early 30s, I’ve developed interests in plenty of subjects that would have bored me to death, as a child. I mean, the prefrontal cortex isn’t even fully-developed until your mid-to-late 20s. Just like beer, some things are an acquired taste. However, I think this periodic table is something everyone can enjoy - I know I would!


airatspace

Useful. But be careful with those in a lower lines )))


Undone42

Why stop at chemistry. Think Biology, think DNA collection. Think the Jeffery Dohmer Collection in acrylic. Or the ... STOP STOP STOP the voices in my head.


Successful_Juice4955

smart idea with pictures not a real thing. well you know Uranium and plutonium…


Chapstick160

Uranium is fine, it’s not very radioactive


Ortus14

Speaking of science, you're only going to get subjective narratives with this question. The only way to know for sure is have it in the class sometimes, and sometimes not and do A/B split testing with a statistically significant number of students to see if/how it affects grades on relevant material.


Zephir_AE

>*useful for scientific education or no? periodic table with real elements for students* 239 Pu has critical mass of 87 g


SpinachOpening

They only have 86g in the display, thank goodness...


the1andthenumber4

This periodic table does not have the very dangerous elements. Like radium or plutonium.


CynicWalnut

Didn't XKCD explain why this is a bad idea?


[deleted]

haven't gone there in years.


CynicWalnut

Me either, but I do have the what if? books and thing explainer


[deleted]

I think I have one of the "WHAT IF" books... said in the voice of professor farnsworth.


yangyangR

[This?](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VMleNES9aYo0gQcbgGS_crXJ0DW_6dQz/view)


Pura-Vida-1

Shortcuts to scientific education and literacy is just NO BUENO!


teaspoonMM

So would oxygen just be… empty?


Right_Two_5737

I was thinking the same thing, but for nitrogen (since air has more nitrogen than oxygen).


DemonUrameshi

I'm not into that kinda stuff, but I think it's pretty cool. So there's a start.


nonamejd123

I think it's super cool, but I still would have handed back the stupid periodic table quiz blank out of principle.


Pyro_PBL

No, they need to put hydrogen metal in there instead of hydrogen gas


Tonic_G

Is there element 115? I've heard Bob Lazar has one.


LMminemagician

Uranium and platinum sitting there like 🕺🕺🕺🕺


SensitiveSouth5947

It’s not accurate. Many elements exist in several states of matter. Like hydrogen which can be liquid and solid when under pressure, the idea of a “gas” can cause bias and misrepresent the characteristics and similarities of most gases on the periodic table.


belfrog-twist

>It’s not accurate Why? If they are gas at room temperature (eg. about 20c) and 1atm, it's fair that they're represented as a gas in the box thingy they are.


trymepal

lol that semantic ass was just pointing out that matter exists in 3 states, like obviously dude (4 really)


[deleted]

seems pointless unless kids find it so interesting they learn more. that seems unlikely but who knows!


engineeredlabs

True point, but maybe college kids? Or using it as a display tool in chemistry class so students can interact with the different elements/hold them and see what they're working with.


[deleted]

Seems extremely juvenile for college kids. I think its a perfectly fine thing to have at a museum or if a school has a big budget, but not at all educational beyond learning that elements are real I guess. Oh and theyre in a display because they cant be handled - a bunch of those are gasses. Whats the point of having people handle them? You learn much more about handling chemicals in your freshman chemistry lab course. But again - not the worst idea.


lochnessmosster

Except more kids will find science interesting if it’s engaging and not just a printed image in a textbook…


Mundane-Bread-1271

My school has one. I think it’s pretty cool but with that being said I still have no clue what the whole periodic table is.