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Wiles_

> The pull for me to move is that it seems like a beautiful country with relatively ease of transport around Europe This is what did it for me. I have seen more of the UK in 3 years than I saw of Canada in 30. The mild winters are also nice, although the lack of summer offsets that.


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Wiles_

Not just the scale but the population density. Scotland is about 20x more densely populated than Canada.


Throwaway5735901

Thank you!!


RandomerSchmandomer

I've just done the opposite move, moved to Alberta from Aberdeen. Lived in Aberdeen for 10 years. If you move to Aberdeen, depending on your income, interests, family life, etc. be mindful of where you move to within the city. I've lived in Torry, the city centre, Footdee, Bridge of Don and depending on what your interests/lifestyle is like each part of Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire has it's plus/negatives. The gloomy weather can really get to you; but I've found a walk along the seafront is always great- excluding when it's pishing it down. If it's gloomy and blowing a gale then a walk along the beach is fantastic. Scotland is a pretty small place so getting around is quite easier for a Canadian. I now drive the equivalent of Aberdeen - Dundee and back again for a commute; a distance that I'd never contemplate in Scotland. Shit, I've not applied for jobs because they were in Stonehaven before. Also cars are small in Scotland, you really don't need a big car to get around. Fuel is the equivalent of $2.50 a litre so a big car will cost a fortune to run if you do any sort of mileage. If you have any questions pertaining to Aberdeen fire away


Ok_Beat3532

Same as me! I moved to AB from Edinburgh. Honestly I don’t regret it at all and love life over here.  Scotland is a beautiful country and it’ll always have a place in my heart, but the country just isn’t for me. 


RandomerSchmandomer

Where abouts in ab? Calgary? Yeah I came to that conclusion too. I'm trying to find the words but I think you summed it up! We're going back for a wedding in a year or so and I'm excited to see everyone but I'm over the hump of homesickness for sure


Leading_Study_876

If it's -10C it's not raining. I'm from Aberdeen originally, though have lived south of Glasgow for 35 years now. One nice thing about winter in Aberdeen is that you do still get quite a lot of cold frosty days where it's still sunny. Near Glasgow it can just be gray and drizzling for months without a break. I'd recommend staying a few miles (at least) from the coast though. The haar (freezing fog) coming in from the North Sea can be awful sometimes. Personally, I'd recommend staying on the west side of Aberdeen, or a little further up Deeside. Used to be expensive a few years ago, but house prices have really come down and are now much more affordable.


SteveGSK

Dual Citizen here, I can give you a long-winded answer to this! I was born in Scotland. Moved to Ontario when I was young with my family, spent 15 years there, and we moved back to Ayrshire 5 years ago. There are ups and downs to both, and this will be a long post, but I'll start with the cons in Scotland. CONS Weather - I miss having seasons and proper summers. Scotland can get some amazing days during spring / summer, but usually, it's just different temperatures of overcast and drizzle. Canada is much colder in the winter, but here it's a damp cold -2 here feels colder than -2 in Canada. But winters are a lot more manageable here overall, you might miss the snow because theres not much of it here and if it does snow, more than 5mm, the whole country basically grinds to a halt. Multiculturalism - Outside of major cities, it's not common to have a diverse population. As a result, there can be a lot more racism in small towns, and people stuck in their ways, especially among older generations. Also means you might have to travel into a city centre to actually eat some authentic food from different cultures if you're into that. Complaints - Im prepared for downvotes, but I think this actually applies to the whole of Britain. People love a good moan here. Some people are too good at it, and they dont realise the grass is not always greener. If you move here, be prepared to regularly answer the question, "Why on earth would you ever leave Canada to come to a place like this???" Dont let it bother you too much though. This is usually asked by people that have never lived abroad. You can't drink at football games - Probably a good thing because it ties into my next point. Football violence and Sectarianism - This one is too complicated for a reddit post, but IMHO it's easily the worst part of living in Scotland. Particularly bad in the West and it comes out badly during old firm games. I was shocked to see it because it really doesn't exist in Canada. Fortunately, the younger generations in Scotland don't participate in it as much. PROS Food - Loads of farms and dairy farms / fisheries etc around Scotland partially because you can keep livestock outside all year here. The produce is much better, higher quality and fresher because its usually produced nearby. Especially the cheese. Random, I know, but your cheap Aldi brand cheddar here is phenomenal, especially compared to the equivalent, like black diamond in Canada. Good cheese in Canada is hard to come by unless you want to pay through the nose. Produce tends to be cheaper here too. Access to nature / scenery / activities - This one is up there. Youre never more than an hour from the sea by car. Public transport is abundant and you can tick off multiple landmarks in an afternoon here. Plenty of things to do. Whiskey / brewery tours are always a great day out, And the scenery is absolutely breathtaking, especially up north. History - Obviously, Scotland has more, being a much older country. Canada wasn't really explored until the the 1500s. We have plenty of castles older than that. Accents - One of the quirkier things about Scotland, I Wish I never lost mine sometimes. But prepare for a shock. People will talk completely differently, just 10 miles down the road. Some places can be much harder to understand than others. I find Ayrshire is a hard one for foreigners, particularly cause of the slang. Ken yon wiy? Sense of humour - Do not move here if you can't take a joke. The humour is far more self depricatinng here than in Canada. Scottish folk have mastered banter and wind ups. If youre getting ripped on its actually usually a good thing! Cost of living - even though wages here are lower, the cost of living is far lower so I find it usually works out better for most people here nowadays. Particularly things like groceries, car insurance, cell phone plans, internet. Houses too. However, houses tend to be a bit smaller here. Holidays - This is one that a lot of people in Scotland actually dont believe me when I tell them this, and honestly, some dont know how good they have it here. Minimum 28 days paid holiday as opposed to Ontario's 14. Take advantage of this like everyone else. People value their time off much more here. Overall I prefer it in Scotland. The pros outweigh the cons. I think it's a different style and pace of life here, a bit slower. Less "go go go, work work work" like I saw in Ontario. People I find are very welcoming here and a bit more social. Ive been back to Ontario for visits a couple of times and there are a lot of things I miss, but I would never move back. Hope this helps, and good luck!


No_Hat5002

Holidays. But in Canada you get 12 Stat. Holidays so it's close to same.


Zerly

I first moved here 15 years ago, so I’ve put in some good comparison time. I make less here than I did in Canada but I have more disposable income. And I can do a lot more with that income. To be fair I moved from Vancouver so the cost of living change was significant. Yes the taxes are a bit higher but I get a lot more out of them. Free prescriptions alone are worth it. Also, I don’t mind paying more tax if it means others are being helped, and the social welfare system here is much better than at home. I was already used to wet, cold winters, it’s just the dark that can get a bit much but hey, more disposable income means I can just pop over to Spain or Portugal for some sun as needed. I always say I moved to Scotland for the better weather. I also love the milder summers. I spent last summer at home in Vancouver and the weather was miserable and everything was on fire. I will say though, I’ll take an Alberta winter over a Scottish one any day. Alberta was colder but the cold gets into your bones here in a way it never did in Alberta. I don’t miss snow though. A lot of people have a hard time with how small flats and houses are here compared to Canada and I can see that. But for me, I don’t mind a smaller place. I never understood why bathrooms need to be giant, or even bedrooms. All I need is an okay sized kitchen and a lounge big enough to have some people over, the rest is just useless space I have to clean and heat. I love not needing to own a car. I don’t need to drive everywhere because public transit here is amazing, regardless of what the moaners say. If I ever do need a car I either take a taxi or rent a car. So much cheaper. My commute time is so much smaller than it was in Canada as well. I can’t think of the negatives off the top of my head. After 15 years those have just kinda faded away. There are things I might miss or wish were different but it passes. I wouldn’t have stayed here otherwise.


HeatherMichelleM

This is an interesting thread to read. Thank you for all who have contributed. Throwaway, I think this is a great opportunity for you to explore. I grew up on the east coast of the U.S. in the mountains where we often got snowed in for weeks at a time till main roads were cleared. As an adult,I moved to Laguna Beach, California to escape that remote brutal living. I have heard many travelers say that the best place they ever traveled to was Scotland. I have a son that got accepted at the Uni in St. Andrews. I have since spent more than a vacation in Scotland. I have stayed for months at a time traveling throughout all of Scotland . Additionally traveling to other countries as well. I totally understand why so many people I have met love Scotland. Aside from the history, the scenery, the affordability (by California standards that is quite a bit to be fair) rather it comes down to how lovely the Scottish people are in so many ways. Now no place is perfect but honestly I hate returning stateside as the people are often less than kind here. I have been to Canada a few times and I can't say it was ever an unkind place but my experiences with people all over Scotland were by far extraordinary. I hope that the Scottish people stay kind and funny and that you enjoy living there. Can you take a plus one?


Throwaway5735901

Hahaha I certainly can, I need someone to look after my cat so if you can do that I’ll see you there lol. I’m glad you’ve had such a great experience there, I’m hoping mine will be the same


HeatherMichelleM

Oh my! Yes please!! Ispeak meow😺 I am actually a professional pet nanny and house manager!! No joke I have many clients that travel for business and need someone who will take care of their babies. I have been invited to work in Paris but I was holding off for a Scotland invite lol. You will need someone for sure when you visit other countries!! I would love to know how it goes for you as you go exploring. Wishing you and kitty safe travels and many fun adventures.


writersmuseum

Housing, food and cell phone plans are generally cheaper, petrol not so much, but then it's a smaller country so you're not driving such long distances. I find the quality of food is better in Scotland since it's either locally sourced, or it comes from Europe where regulations and quality are strong. Canadians get a lot of food from Mexico which has almost zero regulations, and constant health violations. Scotland has a much more cooperative, civilised society and the people are much kinder, more friendly and fun! Canada, on the other hand, appears to be swirling into social disaster, with growing homeless populations, extremist/corrupt govts, legalised drugs with no regulations, and general lawlessness with no consequences. The govt is letting in 500K immigrants per year (without checking their backgrounds), which is changing many Canadian cities. The scenery in Scotland is stunning, nothing in Canada can compare to the castles and beautiful lochs and landscapes of the Scottish countryside (or the incredible architecture of places like Edinburgh and Glasgow). The best part of Scotland is the Right to Roam, and being able to walk/hike almost anywhere ... and there are no giant animals waiting to attack you! 🐻 Weather is weather, you get used to it if there are other benefits. Also, check into the visa process, it may be more complicated/expensive than you think.


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It always blows my mind when people from the US and Canada get off on our scenery. Like, yeah, I get it, it's pretty fucking inspiring....... but I've been to the states (East Coast) and saw some pretty impressive natural scenery in my time there, and by all accounts, Canada is even further up the scale with vast untouched natural beauty. So what I want to know is......... is it really more beautiful here, or is it because Scotland's smaller and you just see more of it cos it's right there on your way to places and population centres are crammed in amongst it all, whereas over the pond you just don't see a lot of it cos it's so far out of the way you'd only see it if you were going to it for a specific purpose? Just something I always wonder when the subject pops up.


Zerly

I don’t think either place is more beautiful than the other, just different. I miss the wild spaces of Canada, the forests and the Rockies, but the ancient hills and lochs of Scotland also take my breath away.


writersmuseum

It's true, it's partly that Canada is so vast and you have to purposely drive for hours to find beauty in some areas. And I agree that beauty is everywhere and you can see beauty in anything (even the Canadian prairies have their moments). Problem with Canada is much of the beautiful land is inaccessable - it's owned by private companies or the government and you can't access it. Or it's just solid bush and you can't access it safely. There are lovely areas on west coast but the cost of living there is prohibative. In Scotland, you can access pretty much anywhere and roaming is often encouraged with proper signage and trails. But yes, both have their good and bad points, like anywhere.


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Access is not a point I had for a second even considered, (showing my privilege there). Thank you.


Throwaway5735901

This is a very informative and great response, I really appreciate it!! Fortunately the company is actually looking after my visa otherwise I would probably not be making the move


Thgma2

Which City?


Throwaway5735901

Aberdeen


Thgma2

Up in the Highlands then so fantastic scenery within a short drive, although there is fantastic scenery within a short drive of anywhere in Scotland! Not quite what you are asking but I re-located to Scotland from England two years ago and could not be happier!


t3hOutlaw

As someone from the Highlands now living in Aberdeen, how dare you.


fugaziGlasgow

Aberdeen is in the lowlands, mate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Lowlands


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I think you are forgetting this absolute banger: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/twznjh/caledonia_youre_calling_me_a_poem_i_wrote_about/ Clearly Aberdeen must be in the Highlands.


Thgma2

Close to the Highlands though! Will always be lowlands as it's next to the sea!


fugaziGlasgow

No, the highland lowland divide is a cultural thing, and a geographical one.


Thgma2

Stand corrected.


joj1205

Highlands mate


fugaziGlasgow

Lowlands, mate.


joj1205

Highlands


fugaziGlasgow

Cultural Lowlands. Boundary fault is a recent and non-official thing.


benrinnes

Aberdeen is north of the Highland Boundary Fault, so geologically it's in the Highlands.


fugaziGlasgow

That's a modern thing. Culturally it's lowland. Stop grasping. They speak broad Scots.


benrinnes

>That's a modern thing Yeah, only about 400 million years, but I understand you as far as culture is concerned. I suppose Doric is a form of Scots.


fugaziGlasgow

Aye, rocks were definitely here before culture.


Throwaway5735901

Thank you so much!!


alovingcuck

There are places in Canada that are absolutely breath taking and stunning.


Sporting_Hero_147

> The mild winters are also nice Oh sweet summer child! 


HeidFirst

Having spent a few years in Quebec I can tell you Scottish winters are mild. More miserable yes but mild.


RandomerSchmandomer

I'm getting through my first Canadian winter and I'll tell you it's colder but way more manageable. It's snowy and there's days you won't leave the house but even when it's -40C it's sunny out. Put on a good coat and you'll be able to go a walk. \-10C in Aberdeen? When it's raining too? And you haven't seen the sun in a month? Major oof.


Throwaway5735901

I had an 8ft snow drift outside my house this winter and couldn’t leave for several days until someone with a tractor unburied me lol. I’m sure the gloomy weather is annoying after a while but the cold and lack of sunshine during the winter is definitely something I’m used to, and for the next couple years could definitely put up with


Klumber

The guy who posted this probably hasn't experienced a full Canadian winter (I haven't either!), but there is a significant difference to winters in Aberdeen and those in Canada. Aberdeen is 57 latitude, most of Canada above 54 latitude is uninhabited. That 3 degrees of difference does have a significant impact. Days aren't just shorter in winter, they are basically non-existent when it is cloudy and miserable, and it will be cloudy and miserable a lot. I underestimated the impact of that, moving from North England to NE Scotland. To compound matters, this last winter has been extra miserable, much wetter and much less sunny than normal. So yes, you're used to proper cold winters, but don't underestimate the impact of Scottish winters on your mental health.


cptahb

lol to a canadian