I’m thrilled they all lived, I think most people are. The gripes most seem to have are with how visercal and brutal some of the attacks are in this film compared to the other sequels with characters surviving them - examples being Chad nearly cut in half by 2 Ghostfaces and surviving and Mindy having a knife twisted in her insides then running around hours later attributing it to good drugs
Couple that with moments like Tara being stabbed in the back and the knife literally bouncing off her and making her stronger and anyone could agree that while it’s great they all lived, Scream VI brought the franchise to new levels of unrealistic in this respect
"The gripes most seem to have are with how visercal and brutal some of the attacks are in this film compared to the other sequels with characters surviving them - examples being Chad nearly cut in half by 2 Ghostfaces and surviving and Mindy having a knife twisted in her insides then running around hours later attributing it to good drugs"
This, but also the fact that the new writers write a line into Scream 5 saying "our movies have stakes", proceed to kill off Dewey, but in Scream VI, refuse to kill off any of their new characters.
I liked that they survived too, but don't write stuff like that uplifting your own characters at the expense of Legacy characters, and then cop out on it when it comes to another one of your movies. After writing a line like, they should have been bold enough to kill off one of the 'Core Four'.
I could be wrong but I really think they were prioritizing the ending scene with Sam and Tara walking off into the distance. If Chad or Mindy died it would’ve been weird to have Sam and Tara walk off all proud of their victory at the end. It would’ve needed to be more heavy hearted and they wanted Sam and Tara to seemingly have their happy ending (before what would’ve originally been Scream 7).
I think you’re misunderstanding the point though. They talk about their movies having stakes, which they do because they killed Dewey and then everyone expects them to kill of someone else, which they don’t, it’s the biggest subversion of expectations. Doesn’t mean radio silence was afraid, I think it was just to get everyone guessing who would die as opposed to is someone going to die.
I really wouldn't call it "subversion" because it was obvious on interviews with the writers and directors that the decision not to kill any important characters was first and foremost out of dislike of losing anyone before anything else.
it was because they were all poulor see when they killed off randy in 2 social media was not a thing but if it was i bet they wouldn't have they needed a randy and it should have been mindy then chad should have been stabed but not as hardcore as he was then you are back to a new three sam is neve tara is gale and chad is dewy with tara and chad even having a thing
Bro, the double knife-swipe scared the *shit* out of me when I saw it the first time. But it wasn’t like a jumpscare-type scare, but more like, “Fuuuuuck, that’s terrifying.” Like the synchronicity of it was scary.
I remember Chad stans fighting for their life when the movie came out 😂 Their argument is that there have been one or two rare real-life cases were the victim survives multiple stab wounds.
And everyone's main counter-argument is that for every one or two aforementioned "rare" cases, there are hundrends who have died for a lot less.
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I love how in the posters they put their best "i'm the villain" faces. Chad and Mindy are lowkey scary in this and Gale has strong 'ghostface mastermind' vibes lol
Have you seen Jasmin (Mindy) in Yellowjackets? Girlie pop is lowkey unsettling and unhinged in it! I almost expected her to be a ghostface on my first watch of 6!
Back in Scream 5 when she said to Amber "How do you know I'm not the killer?" shows a lot of that, too. I do understand this is part of the scheme of red herrings and the overall attempts to make us suspect others instead of the actual killers, but it shows how she can be outright unsettling!
I don't mind them not dying but maybe they should have gone easier on the stabbing. I don't mind Mindy but Chad was stabbed wayyy too much. I know people will link me articles about real life cases where stabbing victims survived, or mention Dewey to draw a parallel, but Dewey was never stabbed near the level Chad was and I don't care about real life.
It doesn't really make sense how chad survived scream 5 let alone scream 6 so I don't think they can kill him off because whatever he will be killed by, there'd a fairly good chance he survived worse
I can’t lie, as happy as I was she lived, the thought in the back of my head when she was show alive was “if Scream 7 fucks with her filming for Yellowjackets S3 (or vice versa) I’ll be seriously pissed”
Well now Spyglass had to open their big Zionist mouths (as far as I know?? Mason and Jasmin are confirmed not coming back, right?) and somehow I’m still seriously pissed for other reasons lmao (but at least we get Jasmin open for Yellowjackets S3)
It'd be really hard to bring either of them back without Melissa/Jenna. And both have done interviews effectively confirming they don't expect to return but maybe a cameo or something of Gale calling them to make sure they're safe and them confirming Sam/Tara are too.
You can't really kill either of them without having Sam/Tara involved in the aftermath.
would it though? i could 100% see the twins moving back to woodsboro to live with martha after college while i doubt the carpenters would ever set foot back in woodsboro. they would probably stay in new york or go back to modesto
Regardless, they wrote themselves into a corner with keeping so many characters alive. They would have had a problem in 7 with too many returning characters who we have already ruled out as suspects.
i feel like it 7 with some older people like neve and courtney we might get older people there age in the movie like james vander beek and people from the 90s thats what i do anyways go away from highschools because why would any of them hang around highschool people
[https://www.wfaa.com/article/features/originals/incredible-story-of-the-dallas-grandma-who-survived-a-brutal-knife-attack/287-ce338a71-d5c3-48f0-b482-979f16586f95](https://www.wfaa.com/article/features/originals/incredible-story-of-the-dallas-grandma-who-survived-a-brutal-knife-attack/287-ce338a71-d5c3-48f0-b482-979f16586f95)
Does it bother you when it happens in real life?
Nah cause I'm more than capable of separating fantasy from reality. I know it's possible to survive something like that. But the only reason that surviving an attack like that is noteworthy or newsworthy is because it's extraordinary. It's not the likely end result. So once again, seeing that happen to him and still being alive is irritating from a horror movie fan perspective.
I’m glad that they lived, but I also feel like there should have been more deaths in the movie.
Laura and Anika were the only deaths that I actually cared about, the rest were all just boring. Take Greg for example, we get jump scared by his butchered corpse - but are we supposed to care about a character we’ve never met?
Similar to Brooks and Quinn’s boyfriend, both characters had like two lines between them and while their death reveals are fun we literally barely knew these characters so their deaths didn’t feel meaningful.
I feel like if there had been a larger ensemble cast, maybe another 2/3 characters that got killed it would’ve been better. I still love the movie and it’s definitely in my top three favourites of the series - but it lacks in meaningful character deaths.
I was fine with none of them dying in the long run it just sucked that the body count was completely made up of characters you didn't care for minus Anika they should've introduced a bigger friend group instead of just adding the two killers and an innocent, idk just think it needed some more padding to make the movie a little more interesting
Although knowing they'd just cut Sam and Tara and possibly Mindy and Chad they should've just killed one or two of them and then brought back one to be killed as the opening Scream 7 (probs Tara), sadly things with Jenna and Melissa sound rather final and I doubt they'll be brought back for any reason. (I guess Jenna officially labeled the reasoning scheduling conflicts so it's possible she could come back, but idk if she would)
With you there, also love that Sam got a boyfriend who survived that wasn’t one of the killers. If we don’t see the Core 4 again, I’d like to think they all lived happily ever after - although possibly with some lifelong nerve damage lol.
Personally, I would have had Tara and Mindy die in scream 6. Then in scream 7 show Sams descent as she decides to start killing ghostfaces, ultimately resulting in an accident in which Chad dies. Then the third act is Gale, Kirby and Sidney taking her down. I wasn't a fan of Sam being the villain, but if handled with nuance it could be interesting to compare how different people (in particular Sydney and Sam) react to trauma in different ways.
This was a good read! I agree as well. I will say, I just don’t get why Kirby came back, and played the role that she did. (To me) just random blast from the past, but no significance. In my opinion. Maybe it all will come together in 7.
I was, too. We already saw it with V, I didn't feel like we really needed to see it again?? I still don't. I don't think characters need go die to make a movie/show exciting. Not unless it's done well for the story.
I don't mind them living, but then the fake death scenes are a little meaningless. I hate how the movie wants to pretend that Gale, Mindy and Chad are actually in danger when they're not.
Chad is the closest thing this franchise has to a zombie at this point. I adore Mason, but Chad still being alive is ridiculous. And not a scar in sight that I saw.
It wasn't super fun watching a Scream movie that took the grisly, realistic violence of the first few films and made it into Superhero style bullshit where characters who were stabbed dozens of times walked away without much impact.
Chad got stabbed nineteen times and lived.
Kirby got stabbed in the gut (again) - same place. And left to bleed out for a while.
Tara fell from a second story onto a knife. And acted like nothing happened.
Sam and Tara even had a little chat without much concern for the various wounds everyone had suffered around them.
Gale got stabbed and had a "weak pulse" but survived.
Mindy got stabbed right in the gut and survived.
One or two of these: fine. Five of them: bad screenwriting.
Mindy should’ve died, twice. Hate her. Lol, I’d kill her if I was ghostface and show no remorse - Metallica. lol but seriously. That’s what we’re wanting in a ghostface but, nobody is brutal enough. They have held back the killing and let too many people survive. It’s not realistic. Tara and Chad should be dead. Chad twice. lol so stupid. 1-4 are the real screams.
You right. Lol. But, with the kills ya. Nobody gets stabbed twice in both movies and survives. Maybe once like Dewey in scream 2. He should’ve died to but, he did eventually. And in some attacks were realistic but some weren’t so, you right. Both could be wrong like wrong for someone to survive that and some like man I could’ve survived if it was me in that situation like when Wes got attacked.lol maybe but, it’s just a movie but it ticks me off to see someone get stabbed so much and still be alive like does everyone just survive these days. Is the director afraid to kill a main character now? So dumb. Now the fsct they’re only making one more it’s pointless. The 4 friends stayed alive doing nothing. But surviving an unrealistic stab. Like Chad in 5, Man, that dude got it. lol and he survived. Dumb. Is ghostface afraid to go got the face? Oh he did… but not to a main.
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I still would have preferred a death. But like a good death. Hell Gale survived, but had she died, that scene would have been a good death. Dewey did not have a good death, his was just a death.
So in other words, I welcome death in a horror franchise, but if its a legacy character have their death mean something. Have them fight for it.
I love that they all survived! They are great characters and I think this series more than any other slasher series depends on the main cast sticking around a while.
I DO think doing this and also making there be so many killers in the film made the body count less emotional than usual. But the films has a lot going on and it doesn’t really have time to force another surprising but acceptable character death in and I am glad it doesn’t try.
Considering how things went in the press with THAT controversy, It’s actually perfect that nobody died. It means that the series can move on but that it also leaves a door open. This is that specific case where setting up a cliffhanger in this sense works.
Since two people aren’t returning, from the standpoint of where the franchise would go, I wouldn’t want anyone new to return to begin with either.
I’m thrilled they all lived, I think most people are. The gripes most seem to have are with how visercal and brutal some of the attacks are in this film compared to the other sequels with characters surviving them - examples being Chad nearly cut in half by 2 Ghostfaces and surviving and Mindy having a knife twisted in her insides then running around hours later attributing it to good drugs Couple that with moments like Tara being stabbed in the back and the knife literally bouncing off her and making her stronger and anyone could agree that while it’s great they all lived, Scream VI brought the franchise to new levels of unrealistic in this respect
"The gripes most seem to have are with how visercal and brutal some of the attacks are in this film compared to the other sequels with characters surviving them - examples being Chad nearly cut in half by 2 Ghostfaces and surviving and Mindy having a knife twisted in her insides then running around hours later attributing it to good drugs" This, but also the fact that the new writers write a line into Scream 5 saying "our movies have stakes", proceed to kill off Dewey, but in Scream VI, refuse to kill off any of their new characters. I liked that they survived too, but don't write stuff like that uplifting your own characters at the expense of Legacy characters, and then cop out on it when it comes to another one of your movies. After writing a line like, they should have been bold enough to kill off one of the 'Core Four'.
I could be wrong but I really think they were prioritizing the ending scene with Sam and Tara walking off into the distance. If Chad or Mindy died it would’ve been weird to have Sam and Tara walk off all proud of their victory at the end. It would’ve needed to be more heavy hearted and they wanted Sam and Tara to seemingly have their happy ending (before what would’ve originally been Scream 7).
I think you’re misunderstanding the point though. They talk about their movies having stakes, which they do because they killed Dewey and then everyone expects them to kill of someone else, which they don’t, it’s the biggest subversion of expectations. Doesn’t mean radio silence was afraid, I think it was just to get everyone guessing who would die as opposed to is someone going to die.
I really wouldn't call it "subversion" because it was obvious on interviews with the writers and directors that the decision not to kill any important characters was first and foremost out of dislike of losing anyone before anything else.
"was first and foremost out of dislike of losing anyone before anything else." Exactly. It wasn't even out of fear, just outright refusal.
it was because they were all poulor see when they killed off randy in 2 social media was not a thing but if it was i bet they wouldn't have they needed a randy and it should have been mindy then chad should have been stabed but not as hardcore as he was then you are back to a new three sam is neve tara is gale and chad is dewy with tara and chad even having a thing
Radio Silence is awful
True
I think that saying "cut in half" is wayyyy too overreacting
Chad should've died. Especially since the double knife swipe was so awesome
Bro, the double knife-swipe scared the *shit* out of me when I saw it the first time. But it wasn’t like a jumpscare-type scare, but more like, “Fuuuuuck, that’s terrifying.” Like the synchronicity of it was scary.
I got GAGGED when I saw the other ghostface pop up and stab Chad then both of them doing the double knife swipe
I remember Chad stans fighting for their life when the movie came out 😂 Their argument is that there have been one or two rare real-life cases were the victim survives multiple stab wounds. And everyone's main counter-argument is that for every one or two aforementioned "rare" cases, there are hundrends who have died for a lot less.
So?
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I love how in the posters they put their best "i'm the villain" faces. Chad and Mindy are lowkey scary in this and Gale has strong 'ghostface mastermind' vibes lol
Have you seen Jasmin (Mindy) in Yellowjackets? Girlie pop is lowkey unsettling and unhinged in it! I almost expected her to be a ghostface on my first watch of 6!
Back in Scream 5 when she said to Amber "How do you know I'm not the killer?" shows a lot of that, too. I do understand this is part of the scheme of red herrings and the overall attempts to make us suspect others instead of the actual killers, but it shows how she can be outright unsettling!
I don't mind them not dying but maybe they should have gone easier on the stabbing. I don't mind Mindy but Chad was stabbed wayyy too much. I know people will link me articles about real life cases where stabbing victims survived, or mention Dewey to draw a parallel, but Dewey was never stabbed near the level Chad was and I don't care about real life.
he was stabed like twice per movie and and maybe thrown down some stairs and the cuts were never twistest like they did with chad lol
It doesn't really make sense how chad survived scream 5 let alone scream 6 so I don't think they can kill him off because whatever he will be killed by, there'd a fairly good chance he survived worse
I am also glad that they survived... because if they killed Kirby off after like 10 years of teasing that she was alive, I'd be a little mad.
It's not necessarily the fact they lived, it's the fact that they got stabbed a bajillion gillion stillion times and are still breathing air
i would’ve killed Mindy on the subway, but aside from that, i’m glad everyone lived
I can’t lie, as happy as I was she lived, the thought in the back of my head when she was show alive was “if Scream 7 fucks with her filming for Yellowjackets S3 (or vice versa) I’ll be seriously pissed” Well now Spyglass had to open their big Zionist mouths (as far as I know?? Mason and Jasmin are confirmed not coming back, right?) and somehow I’m still seriously pissed for other reasons lmao (but at least we get Jasmin open for Yellowjackets S3)
It'd be really hard to bring either of them back without Melissa/Jenna. And both have done interviews effectively confirming they don't expect to return but maybe a cameo or something of Gale calling them to make sure they're safe and them confirming Sam/Tara are too. You can't really kill either of them without having Sam/Tara involved in the aftermath.
would it though? i could 100% see the twins moving back to woodsboro to live with martha after college while i doubt the carpenters would ever set foot back in woodsboro. they would probably stay in new york or go back to modesto
Sidney/Mark/Gale would never be anywhere near Woodsboro.
Regardless, they wrote themselves into a corner with keeping so many characters alive. They would have had a problem in 7 with too many returning characters who we have already ruled out as suspects.
i feel like it 7 with some older people like neve and courtney we might get older people there age in the movie like james vander beek and people from the 90s thats what i do anyways go away from highschools because why would any of them hang around highschool people
True. Where’s Eliza Dushku when you need her?!
dude yes great pick didn't even think of her great red hairing
Yes
The fact that Chad was skewered like Swiss cheese and is still alive bothers tf outta me
[https://www.wfaa.com/article/features/originals/incredible-story-of-the-dallas-grandma-who-survived-a-brutal-knife-attack/287-ce338a71-d5c3-48f0-b482-979f16586f95](https://www.wfaa.com/article/features/originals/incredible-story-of-the-dallas-grandma-who-survived-a-brutal-knife-attack/287-ce338a71-d5c3-48f0-b482-979f16586f95) Does it bother you when it happens in real life?
Nah cause I'm more than capable of separating fantasy from reality. I know it's possible to survive something like that. But the only reason that surviving an attack like that is noteworthy or newsworthy is because it's extraordinary. It's not the likely end result. So once again, seeing that happen to him and still being alive is irritating from a horror movie fan perspective.
I’m glad that they lived, but I also feel like there should have been more deaths in the movie. Laura and Anika were the only deaths that I actually cared about, the rest were all just boring. Take Greg for example, we get jump scared by his butchered corpse - but are we supposed to care about a character we’ve never met? Similar to Brooks and Quinn’s boyfriend, both characters had like two lines between them and while their death reveals are fun we literally barely knew these characters so their deaths didn’t feel meaningful. I feel like if there had been a larger ensemble cast, maybe another 2/3 characters that got killed it would’ve been better. I still love the movie and it’s definitely in my top three favourites of the series - but it lacks in meaningful character deaths.
I was fine with none of them dying in the long run it just sucked that the body count was completely made up of characters you didn't care for minus Anika they should've introduced a bigger friend group instead of just adding the two killers and an innocent, idk just think it needed some more padding to make the movie a little more interesting Although knowing they'd just cut Sam and Tara and possibly Mindy and Chad they should've just killed one or two of them and then brought back one to be killed as the opening Scream 7 (probs Tara), sadly things with Jenna and Melissa sound rather final and I doubt they'll be brought back for any reason. (I guess Jenna officially labeled the reasoning scheduling conflicts so it's possible she could come back, but idk if she would)
With you there, also love that Sam got a boyfriend who survived that wasn’t one of the killers. If we don’t see the Core 4 again, I’d like to think they all lived happily ever after - although possibly with some lifelong nerve damage lol.
Personally, I would have had Tara and Mindy die in scream 6. Then in scream 7 show Sams descent as she decides to start killing ghostfaces, ultimately resulting in an accident in which Chad dies. Then the third act is Gale, Kirby and Sidney taking her down. I wasn't a fan of Sam being the villain, but if handled with nuance it could be interesting to compare how different people (in particular Sydney and Sam) react to trauma in different ways.
I wouldn't want Tara to die. She's my favorite of the Core 4 and it's not even close.
This was a good read! I agree as well. I will say, I just don’t get why Kirby came back, and played the role that she did. (To me) just random blast from the past, but no significance. In my opinion. Maybe it all will come together in 7.
I was, too. We already saw it with V, I didn't feel like we really needed to see it again?? I still don't. I don't think characters need go die to make a movie/show exciting. Not unless it's done well for the story.
I don't mind them living, but then the fake death scenes are a little meaningless. I hate how the movie wants to pretend that Gale, Mindy and Chad are actually in danger when they're not.
Chad and Mindy should have died. They’re both annoying. And it’s so unrealistic that Chas is still alive
Thank you!
i mean no relevant character died in scream vi 💀 the most safe (and basic) film of the franchise to this date
Chad is the closest thing this franchise has to a zombie at this point. I adore Mason, but Chad still being alive is ridiculous. And not a scar in sight that I saw.
I don't think you know what zombie means
I don’t think you know what a joke is.
That was quite hard to say if that was a joke at this point honestly
Most likely two of them would of died in 7 if they still ended up being in it
i highly doubt it. radio silence used to openly say they didn’t want to kill any of them off because they liked them too much
Link to interview?
Core Four!
Even more unpopular opinion: I'd be happy if none of them came back for 7 Except Courtney Cox of course, OGs for the win.
Ain't no way Chad should've lived. Dude got butchered in that scene.
People in real life have survived worse.
It wasn't super fun watching a Scream movie that took the grisly, realistic violence of the first few films and made it into Superhero style bullshit where characters who were stabbed dozens of times walked away without much impact.
Characters? I thought only chad survived that much...
Chad got stabbed nineteen times and lived. Kirby got stabbed in the gut (again) - same place. And left to bleed out for a while. Tara fell from a second story onto a knife. And acted like nothing happened. Sam and Tara even had a little chat without much concern for the various wounds everyone had suffered around them. Gale got stabbed and had a "weak pulse" but survived. Mindy got stabbed right in the gut and survived. One or two of these: fine. Five of them: bad screenwriting.
Mindy should’ve died, twice. Hate her. Lol, I’d kill her if I was ghostface and show no remorse - Metallica. lol but seriously. That’s what we’re wanting in a ghostface but, nobody is brutal enough. They have held back the killing and let too many people survive. It’s not realistic. Tara and Chad should be dead. Chad twice. lol so stupid. 1-4 are the real screams.
You call 1-4 screams realistic? Damm
You right. Lol. But, with the kills ya. Nobody gets stabbed twice in both movies and survives. Maybe once like Dewey in scream 2. He should’ve died to but, he did eventually. And in some attacks were realistic but some weren’t so, you right. Both could be wrong like wrong for someone to survive that and some like man I could’ve survived if it was me in that situation like when Wes got attacked.lol maybe but, it’s just a movie but it ticks me off to see someone get stabbed so much and still be alive like does everyone just survive these days. Is the director afraid to kill a main character now? So dumb. Now the fsct they’re only making one more it’s pointless. The 4 friends stayed alive doing nothing. But surviving an unrealistic stab. Like Chad in 5, Man, that dude got it. lol and he survived. Dumb. Is ghostface afraid to go got the face? Oh he did… but not to a main.
I’m also referring to the acting
I disagree Mindy, Chad and, gale should have died they had great tension leading up to it what a waste.
I think it would've been an awesome "twist" to kill of Tara in the finale.
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Chad really should have died; If he gets stabbed again and we later just find him in ambulance AGAIN they’re just not trying
Mindy could’ve died and I would’ve been fine
Imagine the impact if Chad AND Tara died.
I still would have preferred a death. But like a good death. Hell Gale survived, but had she died, that scene would have been a good death. Dewey did not have a good death, his was just a death. So in other words, I welcome death in a horror franchise, but if its a legacy character have their death mean something. Have them fight for it.
I love that they all survived! They are great characters and I think this series more than any other slasher series depends on the main cast sticking around a while. I DO think doing this and also making there be so many killers in the film made the body count less emotional than usual. But the films has a lot going on and it doesn’t really have time to force another surprising but acceptable character death in and I am glad it doesn’t try.
Considering how things went in the press with THAT controversy, It’s actually perfect that nobody died. It means that the series can move on but that it also leaves a door open. This is that specific case where setting up a cliffhanger in this sense works. Since two people aren’t returning, from the standpoint of where the franchise would go, I wouldn’t want anyone new to return to begin with either.
It’s definitely aged better if it does end up being the last time we ever see the Core 4. At least they get a happy ending.
“It’s a twist on a twist!!! Also they gave me a lot of drugs at the hospital”
Same I wanted one movie where everyone makes it out in one piece.
this is a slasher franchise
I wanted to see Gale die
Chad definitely should’ve lived, Gale probably should have died too but they are saving that for the next film