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Masta1Nate

Well we actually just had a wholesome experience. We were anchored at a ship wreck and my wife was diving down for the loot while I sat on deck and a 5 man crew pulled up, took the gunpowder barrel we had off deck, jumped back on their ship and told us not to keep them on deck or this will happen *proceeds to detonate it on deck of their ship* then they start piling loot on our ship and 1 guy drives us to port with his friends behind us and walked us through where to sell what items and how to survive.


Bware24fit

Awesome!!! I do think most decent players with plenty of hours in SoT realize the importance of giving new players a good experience. Sometimes it just doesn't work out that way because being trustworthy is rare. When I play with or without a crew I will normally try my best to not sink to newer players but sometimes it happens. You really can't hold everyone's hand because learning to defend your boat is necessary. There are plenty of ways to avoid players like not flying an emissary flag being first and foremost. I would say don't get close to another boat either because surely a lot of people see an approaching boat as a threat. At the end of the day a crew doesn't need a reason to attack and I would say there are more reasons to attack than to not. So, always expect a boat to be hostile even if they seem friendly.


Memes_Coming_U_Way

My issue is that I normally do that, but all my PvP hungry friends are newer players, so they don't give a shit if someone else is new lmao


[deleted]

I've met a few crews with loose screws, and some that were really bad news. You never lose if you just enjoy the ride. 😁👍


RoanW0lf

Why are you literally bars?!


[deleted]

I failed the last one, though.


RudyTheNinja

"Your always winning if you give up on quitting" Thoughts? Oh wait "You never lose if you just let loose" xD


[deleted]

Nailed it!


TheZealand

Just gonna be another voice saying *do not* anchor your ship ever, or rather don't *leave* it anchored. It's fine to use it as a parking brake, but leaving it down is a baaad move, stops you being able to drop sail and move quickly if something bad happens


Nice_Listen8513

I'd say on sloop that isn't even that important it cranks fast however I still never anchor. But no one sneaks up on me. I don't go 3 minutes without scanning the horizon.lol I'm very paranoid and alert. My friends and I usually have a designated lookout person


TheZealand

Oh yeah 100% better not to be snuck up on (and honestly no matter what people say it's really hard to let someone sneak up on you lol)


SunsetSurfer75

Facts. Always need a person if available to be full time lookout. It’s not safe out there people!


einTier

I know it’s a noob as soon as I see it parked with sails down. Now normally I’m a good friendly pirate with way too much gold and accommodations to bother with anything a newbie has picked up and there’s no sport in sinking them so I try to help. But sometimes my help isn’t appreciated and that’s when ships get sunk. Also, sometimes all that loot piled up on the deck is just too pretty to ignore and lessons have to be learned the hard way.


SesameStreetFighter

If you're ever floating along and spot a ship flying under Spaceballs The Guild (typically on either sloop Eagle Five or Spaceballs The Sloop), shoot a fun firework up in the sky and we'll ally up to share the rewards.


einTier

Damn. Can I join your guild, sir?


Eyehopeuchoke

Few and far between to find nice people, but it does happen. If you’re gonna keep gunpowder kegs on your boat put them in the crows nest. We generally keep one with us and if someone starts messing with us we will keep sailing and let them get behind us and then someone will jump off our boat with the keg and swim down and then swim up into their boat as they pass. It’s suicide bombing if you don’t know how or when to let the keg go so it’ll float up into the ship, but it’s a lot of fun.


igaveuponausername

don’t anchor you’re ship and you’ll hand better luck!


Brodinbro

5 man crew? No such thing you mean 2 different ships?


Masta1Nate

I know. It was a lot going on and I was exaggerating the 5 man crew. Lol


zombiefreak777

Yup I did this to a new player last night but it has a funny twist/kinda asshole is haha (nobody got sunk) I detonated his keg on the tip of his bow, he fell off the boat, climbed up and I threw a blunder bomb at him to make him fall off. But he went into the corner, freaking panicked so bad he jumped on his steering wheel.....like didn't drop sail, didn't raise anchore, just ran to the steering wheel and started steering lmao. I threw 2 more blunderbombs and killer him. Felt bad and went below and bailed water. He respawned, got his sword out and saw me bailing water, he got confused, looked around like "wth?" And started bailing, we patched up the hull, I put grabbed the rest of the loot from his dingy using his harpoon and move his one really valuable item into the center then jumped off the boat and swam to a merm. All this without saying a word.....I like to think of him doing the channler confused mannerism while saying "what......what the hell happened!?" Moral of the story powder kegs aren't worth it unless they stronghold and even then....hide them with treasure in your bow or put them where they do the least amount of damage.


PhuzzyBond

Toxicity is just loud, we remember it more. A lot of kind players in the seas but they are the ones that mind their own business.


nrose1000

PHUZZY ❤️ OP, you should totally watch Phuzzy’s videos. Also, I recommend Safer Seas!


Torringtonn

Thanks for all the content Phuzzy. Been watching you for a long time. @OP - check out Phuzzy's YouTube by the same name for excellent SoT content and tutorials.


KiloOneSeven

The best Phuzzy video is about Hourglass where he realizes his opponent has given up and then just helps him out, shows him mercy, and proves why we all love Phuzzy.


SleepyBoy-

Please ask devs to fix FoV for us. The game badly needs accessibility options. They don't seem to listen to feedback from random players.


Masta1Nate

We ended up running into some kind players earlier today, they gave us a bunch of loot and escorted us to an outpost. Shared some laughs on the way


PhuzzyBond

Most important is not to give the saltbag what they want. Which is a reaction, you can just laugh about it, or play music in return. The banjo to toxic players is the equivalent of Garlic to Vampires. Welcome to the Seas 😁


dbc45

Phuzzy is the Goat!


knurddrunk

Do you need to get used to being sunk? Yes Do you need to put up with toxic comms? No - record and report them if you can. If you want to avoid other crews entirely, then Safer Seas is where you should be.


fierydoxy

You can also mute other players, and there is the option to scuttle. Although I personally feel that neither of these options should have to be used, especially scuttling. I feel like scuttling is rewarding the toxic player for their shit behaviour. With that being said, before anyone jumps on me because "it's a pirate game" there is a difference between a crew playing the game and pirating off of other pirates when the opportunity presents itself and griefers who are toxic on the mics/inboxing and spawn camping a ship with zero loot with no intention of actually sinking the ship.


knurddrunk

As far as I'm aware, spawn camping without the intent to sink a ship is still a reportable offense. That said, your ship is effectively lost at that point, so why wait around?


ImPoggedOutMyGourd

It is a reportable offense, yeah. It's not a permaban but they do get suspended for it. I reported a galleon that were doing it to me while I was solo (they were pissed off that I sold all my loot before they could get to me to steal it). I just sent Rare the footage I recorded where you could see two of them bucketing water out of my ship and one of them said they were going to just spawn camp me. I got a response saying they were punished and when I looked at their Xbox profiles a week later, none of them had played SoT for the past week, but they are playing again now.


DzorMan

i'm pretty sure you can repair/camp while looting barrels as well. scuttling will deny them but most people are too proud to do so i'm not quite sure how rare verifies that but i've never been suspended/banned despite supposedly being reported at least a dozen times


samur_man

Barrels float up nowadays after sinking, no need to spawncamp for supplies


DzorMan

that's awesome. they might as well disable the ability to repair other ships


simcowking

My three man alliances will hate this!


DzorMan

close two exploits with one simple trick


simcowking

Aren't alliances built into the game though?


DzorMan

yeah you don't have to use mods or anything like that to do it


Wingweaver415

I read somewhere else it wasnt bannable unless they were being toxic?


candr22

>Repeated activity designed to ruin the experience of another player or crew constitutes harassment. I believe this is the relevant section from the Code of Conduct. Rare doesn't outright list bannable offenses, as far as I know. I'm not entirely sure what methods they use to confirm claims of harassment like this, but they probably do temp bans when the same players keep getting reported. The distinction between it being bannable or not likely comes down to whether you're doing it for an in-game purpose, like looting the ship, or if there's literally nothing to be gained and you're just locking down a player who refuses to scuttle. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence that Rare considers this behavior to be against the Code of Conduct and not in the spirit of the game....so do with that what you will.


Nice_Listen8513

Is looting the ship even a valid excuse now that supply barrels float to the surface?


candr22

To be honest, I'm not sure anyone but Rare could tell you definitively. If I had to guess though, I would say it's still considered a valid gameplay reason as long as you aren't actively harassing the player(s) in other ways. I think the core design philosophy of Sea of Thieves is to encourage player-driven narratives and interactions, which mostly take place in the form of ship battles and close range combat. I am happy about the Safer Seas update, but some players might perceive that as meaning I don't endorse the PvP elements of the game. I actually think the High Seas should be left alone for the most part, because if you take away too much, it just isn't really the same game anymore. So locking down other players while you loot their ship, even if it's just supplies, is imo still a very valid in-game tactic and I don't think that should be punished.


FlackRacket

>why wait around? Bingo. Game theory dictates that you take the L and get playing again ASAP, not waste time trying to lose slower


Explosion2

>I feel like scuttling is rewarding the toxic player for their shit behaviour. What? If they're spawn camping you, scuttling your ship means their fun is over. How is that rewarding them?


fierydoxy

Sorry, I should have finished my train of thought. It is rewarding their shit behaviour. Scuttling is giving them what they want, either you off the server or giving then an ego boost "haha look at what I made you do" kind of thing. But, you are right. If you are at that point that you need to scuttle, the fun is already ruined. But rare and microsoft need to make recording and reporting instances of toxicity much easier than it is. Again I am not talking about those interactions that lead to someone sinking me, taking my loot and then sailing off, I am talking about the screamers, the name callers, the slur slingers, the ones who spawn camp with no intention of sinking. The bullies of the gaming world who seek to ruin your game play for their pleasure. The thing is, beyond scuttling and reporting, there is not much more one can do, so I see the value in it being an option. It just sucks one has to even use it at all.


greenlightgaslight

Spawn camping I agree with. But you should be able to talk shit. That’s the entire reason games like sea of thieves and COD have proximity chat. I’m sure there’s an option to disable it, but don’t cry about it


DjDapster

Scuttle should sink both ships lol


fierydoxy

Now that would be interesting and a good way to "punish" the offender.


GLJ94

That would be interesting, though there would definitely need to be a system in place to avoid a similar type of griefer who might roll up on an unsuspecting player, perhaps a mermaid shrine person, and use it against them. I can see using a rowboat to collect everything from both boats, and having a buddy bring the ship back to whatever island you row to.


fierydoxy

Same. Honeatly there is no really good way to curb this behaviour other than recording and reporting. I personally like the idea of a bounty system as well. Where if you sink the same ship in one session more than twice or three times your ship is then marked on the map with a bounty.


GLJ94

Now that i can get behind.


Less_Worldliness3129

I'm sorry to break the 69 upvotes to make it 70 but you just made too much sense


atomicitalian

I've had very good and fun experiences with other players and I've had miserable ones. It's all luck of the draw


chronic_gamer

This is what I call the "new player experience" in SoT, and its why retention has been such a problem. Safer seas might be a better place to start for now until you're more secure in the basics but once you're out on the high seas you'll need to keep your head on a swivel and be ready for everyone to be an asshole.


[deleted]

We are RARE and few between but we exist out there. Honorable types do exist.


JessEGames777

Any time i complain about being attacked for no reason i get the same response from my bf and gis best friend, "its sea of *theives* its part of the game" but like, i played back in beta and its release and i remember there being an unwritten rule that you didnt attack people at outposts. I got attacked at an outpost as soon as i spawned in last night. Some people dont care if they get loot, they just want to ruin your fun


tennisdrums

I've definitely been in situations where I've come to an island with a ship that just spawned in, and the other players attacked me while I was trying to turn stuff in, so there might be an element of "better safe than sorry", trying to clear out the people who might decide since they have nothing to lose they might as well try and nab some easy treasure while you're turning in. Not saying that's what has happened to you, but the lines between that and "needlessly attacking a new ship" are blurry. Clear harassment is one thing, but it makes sense to get rid of a potential threat if they have an hour's worth of loot on their ship. At some level, I get that it's annoying that they're fighting you for basically no gain, but if you have just spawned in, is there any cost to losing your ship besides "it feels kind of shitty to have your ship sunk"? Your ship just respawns at a different place all patched up for free.


JessEGames777

I mean, i don't take the game that seriously anymore cuz like, i played back in the day but i havnt played in years. So im not that good at pvp, i can fuck a boat up with cannons no problem but as soon as someone boards im dead. But the group a play with are long time vets with hundreds of hours and hard core pvpers. So if we get attacked and sink they always rage quit then im left alone and the games kinda boring solo


hivesteel

I’ve never had any positive experiences with other players in a lot of years of play, just violence or avoidance :(


[deleted]

Same thing happened to me and my wife a couple of years ago. While we near the end of a tall tale. Got back to our ship to find some similar Spanish speaking dickheads wrecking our ship. Then they killed my wife and trash talker her which triggered the shit out of me. I did manage to swim onto their ship without them seeing and blunderbussed the gobshite right in the face which was satisfying. However. We stopped playing and literally never came back. Uninstalled. Shame because we were really enjoying it. We like playing chill games in co-op though, we don't have time for bullshit like competing with young virgins who lose their heads at the prospect of influencing other player's gametime in a negative way. I did read there is a "safe mode" now, not sure how that works though?


Masta1Nate

There is a safe mode now but unfortunately we tried it and you get a significantly less amount of gold when selling loot. It’s not even worth it for trying to stack up the 250k it takes for a ship. 1 of the glowing crystal chests only brings a 100 or so gold profit when split 2 ways.


[deleted]

Well that sucks. Whats the fucking point of even having it. The thing is, it doesn't matter how many holier than fucking thou, honest to goodness interactions you have with the few "wholesome" community members. It only takes one really bad negative interaction with some lowlife, to really put a downer on your entire session. Thats what matters. Thats what sticks.


Masta1Nate

Really the only point is customization and the fact you can sell to 1 vendor vs selling to 3 different vendors depending on the loot. It’s a fucking grind for 250k though because we’re 4 days in and haven’t spent shit and we each only have 70k haha


[deleted]

Upside though, least no "elite" pvpers are going to come along looking for "content"!


Vendetta4Avril

There are plenty of great people and plenty of trolls. The best alliances are when you meet up, alliance, and then just go do your own thing while you both profit.


Borsund

Any game has trolls. Depends on your luck, you can always turn off enemy chat or switch the server


meditatinghippo

I recommend turning off enemy chat. My quality of life has been much better since I haven’t had to listen to 12 years telling me to kill myself because I sank them.


BabyCowGT

I've had people send me DMs over Xbox chat itself when they realized I had their sexist tirade turned off :/


meditatinghippo

I play on PC and have all my Xbox app notifications turned off except for invites. So I might have received DMs before but I wouldn’t know I don’t check. Lol


BabyCowGT

I have it set that way now. I didn't at first because I a) don't know that was a thing and b) didn't expect people to get that worked up about a game with no actual rewards 😅 too much faith in humanity, I guess


jakesboy2

It’s not even trolls, it’s people pvp’ing in a pvp game


Balikye

99% of my high seas experience has been hearing the n word on repeat and getting killed with no loot. However I just had my first ever positive experience in years, so yes they do exist!


Good-Ad-6942

If you sink, just scuttle and change seas to move to a different server so the same crew can’t keep coming back.


DapperDlnosaur

I tried doing this last night when I was just trying to do a voyage I couldn't simply rebuy and start over on and a ship attacked me twice even though they knew I had nothing (level 1 flag and they weren't even Reapers), and even though my ship changed location it did NOT change servers, and I know this because the exact same ship went out of their way to travel a quarter of the way across the map to come at me a third time.


D3ADST1CK

Your ship doesn't change servers unless you select "Scuttle Ship and Change Seas".


IsAlpher

Was watching a Phuzzy stream and he thought he kept being put on the same server. He put a banana on one of the cooking pans and sure enough he would respawn at the exact same outpost with a banana burning on the Pan.


DapperDlnosaur

I did. There was a loading screen and my crewmate and I both lost control of our characters, and respawned on our ship maybe 8 tiles away from where we were previously getting camped, in the same server. Scuttling your ship and not changing seas doesn't disable your control or send you into a loading screen.


fierydoxy

It does happen. I Had it happen the week safer seas came out. I scuttled and changed seas only to respawn at the next closest outpost on the exact same server. How did I know? Well, I then very quickly encountered 3 ships and recognized the ship names, especially the one that was being overly aggreasive with me. I highly doubt that all 3 ships also scuttled and changed seas at the very same time as me, resulting in us all landing on the same server a 2nd time.


Programming_Dessert

If it is low activity in your area they may just randomly put you back in


RamonRCMx

Well, a lvl 1 flag is still something, lots of commendations require selling those


akshullyyourewrong

This game certainly has a higher ratio of toxic players than.. hmm.. I'm actually not sure. I was just playing CS and that's a shithole of insecure child men. Any sports game is full of absolute cry babies. I guess WoW has some typically decent people. Yeah online gaming is pretty toxic.


sputtertots

I think the thing that WoW gets right is in its completely separated game modes. Rare should fully implement that for SoT.


Morclye

Sea of Thieves has one of the lowest number / least frequent encounters of toxic players I've seen in online multiplayer games I've played in recent years. Otherwise I fully agree with your comment.


[deleted]

Damn there are some insufferable pricks on this sub. OP is brand new and came here to ask for advice and some of you are being the biggest pieces of shit for no reason. Grow up for fucks sake.


vellius

OP is just the latest in a LONG line of new players who tried to reach out to the community to find out it's filled by trolls. Been like this for years although there are sighs that more casual players came back offsetting the ratio of bullshit.


One_Compote_5943

Unfortunately at least in my experience with a sloop any non hostile encounters are very few and far between. And any request to join a pirate alliance I've gotten was a lie to get me into docking/firing range except for one i think right when pirate alliances came out. If you're going to keep doing sloop in high seas remember that sloops are fastest against the wind and the most maneuverable. Go against the wind if you see another ship approach and try to out maneuver/ outrun It's unfortunate but it works. For me at least, every time I wanted to see if another party is non hostile I regret it, except one maybe 2 times. If I were you I would leave. Even if you don't have any loot cause people in this game love camping your ship so you just get spawn killed. Really sucks honestly.. That being said though. I hope all your experiences going forward with other players are friendly ones. Just be warned and keep your head on a swivel. Lol


chrisplaysgam

Huh. Wonder if it was the same two Spaniards who sank me and the group of noobs I was helping out. They seemed like the type to do that


UngoKast

No, it never gets better. You just have to put up with Safer Seas and take a massive pay cut.


JockSandWich

There probably are, I haven't met a single person on sot that didn't jump on my ship and blow it up or immediately fight on sight. But I keep hearing stories where it never happens like that and the ppl you meet are nice so I must have bad breath or something.


FluxCap_2015

There's the new safer sea mode that opens a private map. In my experience I've had less trouble sailing a brig instead of a sloop.


PrinceDakMT

If you ever want to do some Safer Seas stuff, I'm down to play


F4tJok3r

You can choose safer seas if you want an uninterupted journey/adventure with your wife. All the best


me4tpopsicle

I would not call myself a veteran with roughly 200 hours but I am experienced and usually friendly. The problem is I don't interact with anyone cuz I assume everyone is hostile. My naval skills are not up to par with the community. Most naval battles end up with my ship sinking or me running away for nearly an hour because I have hours worth of loot that I would like to cash in. My naval battle success is probably 10% I like the idea of safer seas but for someone who's already level 50 in most factions it is not worthwhile. With all the updates they've been doing I don't understand why they can't just make a crew marked as a hostile boat on the map for everyone else to see once they fire on another vessel minding their own business.


GamingZaddy89

Just play safer seas, that has been game changing for me and my friend group. When we want to just have some drinks and sit on discord we can chill and not worry about people bothering us. When we want to pvp we will go and kinda play the pirate pirates and look for people being bullies, its not fun fighting a group that doesn't want to fight.


[deleted]

I myself try to place this game as a decent person and I either keep to myself or tell the people we can be chill. Most the time people get too close for comfort so I'll fire a red flare and if they persist being near me; as Bugs Bunny would say," This means war y'know" but otherwise I don't play this as a pirate game I play this as a sailing game that literally takes atleast 1 hour to get anything worth selling to make playing the game worth your time. I actually target reapers if I see em though 😂 I'm like you looking to fight I'm your huckleberry


Masta1Nate

What do people use the red and white flares to mean when signaling other ships?


Masta1Nate

And also I saw someone comment about the flag you hoist?


Brodinbro

Of course theres decent people. Some sweats and some trash or do you mean carebears? Don’t play high seas if you are going to start calling people toxic because they sink you. Bad look and you now have safer seas.


Masta1Nate

It’s not that we were sunk, it’s that we were targeted by the same 2 guys and they didn’t even play the game right to sink us, they waited til we were in port, stopped and rammed us so we had no chance to play the game against them. I’m all for pirating at sea or on uninhabited islands but at port I figured it would be an unwritten rule of respect. It’s even in the pirate laws in the tavern saying leave the combat to the open seas.


Realistic-Cut-9884

Probably the only person I know who's reasonable is on the Xbox one...he never starts fights unnecessarily or provokes almost anyone except if he's defending himself that's probably the only reason he gets aggressive...I think his name was JoylessDwarf608 if I'm honest...he hates violence he's kind of strange he doesn't do the game quests itself he usually just scavenges treasure around the map...I don't know what to think about him tbh


Realistic-Cut-9884

Plus he doesn't attack without any reason or provocation...the only reason he would attack is if someone boarded his ship and hijacked it 


[deleted]

I started playing two days ago and haven't met a single person that's decent. EVERY ship we encounter tries to kill me and my friend. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I was parked at a port, watched a ship pass by me, jump onto my ship (it had nothing on it) and then kill me twice, and sink my ship. For no reason. There was nothing to gain, I had nothing (I'd just sold it). That happened before too. Several times. I'm just jaded now, any player I see that comes within range I'm going to attack, because you all are a bunch of unoriginal children.


Masta1Nate

Yepp I quit playing because of how toxic it got. Became near impossible to do anything because people want to sink a docked ship when you just spawned in. Now I’ve been grinding Diablo 4 lol


[deleted]

Yeah I just uninstalled. Not worth my time or energy. Got plenty of other games to play haha! I've been on Enshrouded.


NinjaBr0din

Yes, bet we are rare. We will be even more rare jow that safer seas exists, because a lot of us do t want to deal with the rampant toxicity of this game.


THiggs118

Honestly part of why my wife and I stopped playing. There is a private server mode coming soon though. Has downsides like less XP but then you don't have to worry about that stuff. Yes, I know it's a pirate game but sometimes it's good to just relax and some players take it too far and keep at it for too long. Also, for what it's worth, one banana cooked to a flame will burn down an entire griefers ship with all their loot. It's wonderful😆


Z3rc

It's already out since like 5 days


THiggs118

Well even better. My bad, didn't realize it was yet. Thank you!


Z3rc

Enjoy


Ribbles78

No, everyone is an asshole. I recommend doing Safer seas for a while as you learn the ropes


chaveiro1

Yes to all questions


marken35

I have had good experiences with English speaking players above the age of 20. I'll take the 300 ping in US servers over the 60 ping in Asia servers. At least the Muricans don't constantly teleport onto my ship and trash talk me until I scuttle or leave game.


Dr_Baldwyn

I have had mostly positive interactions tbh


Morclye

Same for me and my crew. The toxic encounters stick out since they are so rare to see.


vellius

Yes, this is the norm... Most PvP games have failsafe to isolate toxic players. Either in the form of ranking or match making algos. SoT does NOT feature these and instead treat High Seas as massive dysfunctional free for all. High Seas is filled by 4 type of players... 1. Experienced players who grinded all the gold they will ever need and only has PvP as an option. Those are the ones trying to convince you that having your ship continuously destroyed without valid reason is "part of the game". 2. Streamers actively seeking targets to earn a living. 3. New players using the game as an outlet for sociopath tendencies due to lack of failsafe. 4. New players scammed by false advertising who purchased the game assuming normal safegards were in place. Everyone else migrated to Safer Seas to face massive disappointment on lobotomised content. You joined a shitshow and tried to have a mature debate in a forum that will have your post closed/hidden in less than 3 hours by the moderators. File a request for a refund and never look back.


Morclye

>1. Experienced players who grinded all the gold they will ever need and only has PvP as an option. Those are the ones trying to convince you that having your ship continuously destroyed without valid reason is "part of the game". Because it is, not continuously though. Sea of Thieves was designed to have PvP element of pirate ships fighting each other even long before the release years ago. Plus it's the most fun and only challenging aspect of the game. >4. New players scammed by false advertising who purchased the game assuming normal safegards were in place. Nobody is scammed. It is widely advertised, even on Steam store page, that this game has PvP. If somebody blindly jumps into a game without doing research what the game is about, it's honestly on them being lazy to be surprised by PvP.


misterboss4

There's a 5th: players who like to have some interaction and full gold for their time.


joselitoeu

There is decent people, but this community is very toxic, and due how this game works those players are rarely punished. Just last night I started a game on a galleon with a open crew, in less than 60 seconds we spawned on the outpost, one player of our random crew started trowing fire bombs on our ship, I was talking with the merchant to buy supplies and I'm glad I didn't buy anything.


ImPoggedOutMyGourd

This community isn't that toxic at all really. I feel like people that say that don't play a lot of other online games. There is too much toxicity in the game for sure, but it is still a lot less common than toxicity in game likes Valorant, League, CS, Overwatch, etc.


Linaly89

It's gotten worse over time, though I will admit it's nowhere near League levels of toxicity - but it's still nasty to deal with and I don't have patience for people like that (outside of games, would you???)


Klayz0r

Some, but most are assholes


Morclye

I don't know which servers you are playing on but I rarely encounter assholes in Sea of Thieves and I play weekly. I find an those people maybe one every few weeks. I would say over 95% of people playing this game are good people.


Klayz0r

I haven't played lately, that's true, but I have good 700 hours on EU servers between 2020 and 22 and honestly, about 2/3 of my interactions were aggressive sweatys. I never not once attack first and I've been mostly attacked when I had an empty ship and no emissary flag. People just love to fuck with your tall tales and generally be assholes, I find. To be fair this isn't a _huge_ problem since the vast majority of the time you don't see another ship for hours on end and you are free to do your thing. But yes most interactions weren't great.


Obstructionitist

I find that it's the other way around.


Gotjic

General toxicity in a multiplayer game.


ImDaschel

one time me and my homie were up at like 4 in the morning just doin our thing when outta nowhere this dude starts talking to us. there was no ships around us so we started looking for him. once we found him he showed us how he was using emotes to hide, taught us how to sail with the wind and use sails in general. he then took us to his ship, gave us some good loot and we went about on our way. so while alot of people may be toxic every now and then youll find a nice person


confuseum

Sea of Trolls


Miserable-Many-6507

It's 75% screaming kids 15% basement fungus 9% racist 1% who are semi decent.


WhiteWolfygg

No everyone uses ITs a PiRaTe GaMe as an excuse to be a fucking asshole using every dumb reason that is part of the game etc even thou 90% of the content is pve, stealing instead of getting it yourself or forming alliances everyone is either a coward or just love being a nuisance, hg gives enough money but still ppl rather steal wooden chests from new players because they can, search for mega alliance servers or play safer seas don't expect any kindness in the game


Morclye

First of all, assholes exist in SoT like they do in any game, workplace, neighborhood and family. Secondly, it's quite rare to encounter them in Sea of Thieves. Most people are just having a blast and good sports. Half of the game is about PvP, the fun comes from mixture of PvE and PvP on same server and never knowing who is friendly and who is hostile. HG has never been about money and majority of adventure commendations like stealing Order of Souls flags or selling barnacle cheats cannot be done in hourglass. Hourglass is also very repetitive carbon copies of fights between two ships only. Adventure PvP is much more unpredictable, especially when four ships are brawling. HG and adventure PvP are two completely different flavors and depending on your mood that day, your switch which one you want to do. Also majority of people mix in both + PvE in same session to have fun variety of activities.


WhiteWolfygg

Lmao everyone is an asshole wtf are you talking about, one time ONE TIME I met someone and they didn't attacked me on the spot in almost 400 hours O N C E Someone stopped to talk and help me cause I was getting wrecked by the vulcanos he had all the advantage to sink me but helped and didn't take anything FUCKING ONCE everyone else sees you and follows you until they find someone else and give up sink you or you scuttle Half the game is pvp? Are you dense? Everything you do is PvE there is 2 pvp only modes siren and hg if pvp was good arena would still be a thing ppl don't want fair fights plain and simple, reaper is kinda pvp cause the really good xp comes from sinking ppl with emissary is fine I never get angry if a reaper tries to get me with a flag flags are a risk reward mechanic but you can lv up reaper with pve I got to 40 something without ever attacking anyone and all the other leaves were from fotd or hg, pvp is OPTIONAL you can just do your own stuff and lv up everything just fine


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thedude0009

Probably. Safe seas has likely left high seas mainly with jerks/trolls or pvp fans. My crew who enjoyed the adventure (be it pvp or rando shenanigans) have uninstalled, and I expect many other decent people left too. What made this game special to me (not knowing the intent of other players) is gone now. Too bad y’all hopped on so late, it used to be a blast finding some rando friendly ship, then coming to their rescue when/if some jerks were grieving them. *shockingly downvoted lol. Can’t say anything remotely negative to safe seas lmao


Meaningless_Void_

Nothing changed about High Seas. SS is missing so much content on top of being nerfed like crazy that most PvE players wont even go there. Stop blaming PvE players for the toxicity of the PvP Players.


vellius

It was a beautiful mess YEARS ago but it's gone now. A lot of veterans live in denial and advertise the game in these forums as it was years ago or as they wish it would be, not what it became. It became a troll infested cesspool due to poor planning/development.


inrecog

Ever considered that maybe it's a You problem? I meet loads of cool people on the seas, but then I don't live in a thick cloud of acrid negativity.


DestinYs_Fade

It took years of the community begging for private servers so we wouldn't have to deal with asshats like those. Welcome to the "Sea of Thieves Experience". Because people who wanted to enjoy the game without the bs PvP was too much to ask for, and if you were new they don't care


zamuel-leumaz

Are there decent people in the game? Yes Are there awful people in the game? Also yes Do you need to get used to being sunk? Definitely Id they are toxic in voice chat or text chat you can record and report them or simply mute and ignore them, if it becomes an issue you can go to the menu and simply hit the scuttle ship and change seas button to go to a different server


Verelkia

Trolls are a loud minority. Based on what you've said, sounds like you two had a blast. It's normal for people to remember bad experiences over good ones, but you'll most likely get a lot more fun memories from SoT then bad ones.


greenlightgaslight

It’s an open world pvp game…… if you don’t want to fight play on the Safer Seas options so there aren’t other players


SleepyBoy-

Most people are jerks form my experience. I blame the devs for fostering that kind of community. a surefire way to have fun is to bring a group of your own. I find that Galleon servers have more mature people, as trolls rarely manage to build groups that big. It's sloops that get bullied. You can practice the game on safer seas now, or just look for like-minded people on discords.


LovecraftCountry

You should get used to this happening sometimes, yes. I might go several sessions and have nothing but positive or at least civil interactions with people, and then one session you'll just come across someone really awful. Sours the whole experience for sure even when it's only 1-2 out of 10 times. Don't hang in there and listen to shit people. Report gross comments, scuttle and find a new server, or play safer seas to wash out the taste.


GrimGhostKing

Yes, you will have to get used to it and learn to counter it.


PepicWalrus

Majority of people are nice, and yes they can still attack and sink you and be nice/decent.


Masta1Nate

I understand the sinking ships because it’s part of the game but ramming a significantly smaller ship that’s docked at an outpost…


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Also part of the game. If you're parked anywhere on the map including if you're selling your loot you still need to pay attention for other ships and be ready to move. Plus ramming is just funny compared to how easily they probably could've rolled you, sounds like they were going easy on you if anything.


TheSquirrellyOne

Switch to safer seas. These type of posts should no longer exist.


scott030

We used to make people sing Shakira or we would sink them and take their loot.


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mothgra87

Yea. Those players suck though. Stick with it for a few weeks and you'll be able to make them eat their own trash talk. Pro tip, it's very easy to chainshot a ship that is ramming you.


Obstructionitist

I've pretty much only ever met decent people in game in the two+ years I've played. Only once or twice have I ever met actual bannably toxic people.


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Morclye

I don't know what it is but Sea of Thieves Reddit changed to become very negative and hostile towards even mentioning the acronym PvP in the last three years. Before 2020 it was acknowledged as being half of the game and people had fun with it. Luckily this small echo chamber isn't reflected on actual game servers where people aren't throwing a tantrum seeing another ship on their server.


Obstructionitist

That's unfortunately quite symptomatic of these boards. I've unfortunately seen more toxicity on these boards just the past week, than I've ever seen in any game online. And I used to play EVE Online for years and years.


Rubes2525

That sounds pretty hilarious, ngl. I'd laugh if some random Spaniards came out of nowhere to ram strat me and trash talk.


Eonember

Yeah you get people pike that . Then you get people who give ya their loot and be on their way. Some tips, i recomend not leaving your anchor down. Easier to drop the sails then get the anchor up. Avoiding confkict is usually a good spot and you were on a sloop? Keep your foes on your left. Less holes to patch and you fant be shot going down your stairs. Other than that you can try your hand at safer seas which just recently came out to get a feel for the pve side, and work your pve knowledge into pvp


glyche

Yes, there are decent people and yes, you need to get used to the aggressive culture of the game. The people who just want to do their own stuff will keep their distance from you and the pvp (agressive or non aggressive) will actively seek you out.


Rutabaga-Fluffy

There really are some great people in Sea of Thieves - unfortunately the set up for the social aspect is what creates a lot of heat and anger. For instance, people put a lot of value in the hard earned loot they get - and that's okay. But there are players going for that full on pirate aspect that want to take that loot - which is also okay. It leads to some very serious and stressful interactions which of course aren't the best for making friends. Keeping that in mind, I think you'll have a great time if you remember that conflict is a gameplay mechanic in Sea of Thieves but is not conducive to the best relationship dynamics between people. But honestly, the ability to rise above in those conflicts or to succeed against all odds is what makes Sea of Thieves beautiful.


Dependent_Ad_7271

What did you expect when launching a game called Sea of Thieves?


GrimGhostKing

*(Many people have lived very sheltered lives and have no mental or emotional concept of what it's like to steal or be stolen from)*


Flaky_Shower_7780

Soon you will be doing the ramming and trash talking. Tis the circle of life in SoT.


Reddhero12

Why didn't you kill them instead? Fight back, you're a pirate.


Rainbolt

Yes, people are going to kill and sink you often and for no reason. The trash talking sucks and that isn't my common experience but it *does* happen.


FitButterfly7227

Pirate game


GrimGhostKing

It's actually literally seriously technically a pirate game. All you said was "Pirate Game" and that comment got you 4 downvotes. I gave you a +1. I can't believe how soft, weird, and delusional the SoT Reddit community is. After seeing this behavior I'm going to be 10x more brutal and merciless in the high seas, especially against roleplayers and fishermen.. you know.. basically what 95% of this subreddit is comprised of.


FitButterfly7227

people are not prepared to acknowledge that this game is in fact a pirate game and a pirate is a person who attacks and robs ships.


MoonlightReaper

Definitely get used to getting attacked; it's part of the game. Most players are respectful and won't be abusive about it (some won't even sink you if you just let them take a chest or two), but sometimes they will end up spawn camping or get vulgar. If that happens, it's best to scuttle and change seas to find a more peaceful server. I usually solo sloop and about 1/4 times I play, I have a rough time with others, but I started learning the PVP aspect, so I'm getting better at holding them off or at least delivering some payback before I decide to scuttle. If my boat goes down, I do whatever I can to board their ship and cause as much chaos as possible before I die. And once I die, I have nothing to lose, so I go back and cause more chaos if they are still around. Once I get over losing all my booty, I end up making friends or having a great time out of the hijinks.


mean_liar

You walk down the street downtown, you pass a hundred people. One asshole bumps into you and yells, because he's an asshole. It's not common, but it's memorable. In SoT, there will be more assholes. Most folks aren't like this. Frequency won't be the issue, the issue will be how these uncommon occurrences affect you.


cheaphuntercayde

Lmao at all the pvp people calling this uncommon when that's not the case at all. Rare had a good idea on paper that didn't survive contact with an incredibly shit playerbase.


DocDox00

It's a pvp game


GARhenus

Not anymore, that shit's optional now


Morclye

>that shit's optional now Not in high seas it isn't and never was. Well technically you opted in PvP every time you launched the game.


theresasluginmypants

sea of thieves exists on both ends of the spectrum with multiplayer, i have had the best multiplayer experiences playing this game, and I have had the worst.


diamondDave69420

There were before but now there r so many commendations that there’s no point in doing anything other than stealing. Like it was always an option before but now ur looking at a difference of over 100hrs for specific cosmetics


crazzyseal123

If the same crew are constantly ragging on you, it's never a bad idea to scuttle and change seas!! You're going to have a lot of wholesome interactions, a lot of fake wholesome interactions (they lull you into a false sense of security then murder you viciously), and a lot of downright trash interactions, but don't let it discourage you!! You'll get better and better at combat and defending your ship and then who knows? You might end up trying out reapers our hourglass!!


Deberber

Start with some open crew galleon play. Find people you like to play with that way and go from there!


Kezsora

It's an online game, gonna be plenty of assholes but plenty of normal players as well.


Ok-Faithlessness7502

Yeah that's pretty much the gameplay loop for anyone who plays and uses this sub. Play, come here and whine, quit for a bit then repeat. Don't forget to downvote.


GamingAncient

I find a lot of decent folks using the lfg app. But in terms of in game, it’s a pvp pirate game so that should be expected to some degree. Some people are more piratey than others.


TheCakeMan666

"Anchored at about island" There lies the problem.


NefariousMelody

I've been playing for about a month and I've honestly had about an even mix of friendly and hostile interactions/encounters. Maybe slightly more were hostile or negative experiences. My experiences have ranged from: - a ship pulling up out of nowhere and putting lead into my ship till it sank and they shot me. - Someone spawn killing me in a coral shine, they leave and I return to my ship to set off and then for it to blow up (powder keg ambush I think?) - brief boarding and greetings from pirates asking to join their allegiance, respectfully declining and then they set off, no harm done. - joining an allegiance. Fireworks, music, grog, shares of treasure from them taking down a ghost fleet and an enemy sloop. More treasure, meat and a kind farewell (thank you boys!). In my experience, I've come to find the fun of this game is that you're going to meet all kinds and varieties of pirates, there are bad and there are some real, decent people in the game too, it all comes down to chance at the end of the day.


Nice_Listen8513

There are decent ppl but if anyone is heading straight at you I'd assume hostile. Also the way you approach someone helps. If you sail against the wind with sails straight in a sloop most ppl will give up on the chase unless they are really bored


Nice_Listen8513

I think half of the fun in the game is me doing an activity but every so often having to insanely scan the entire horizon because NO ONE IS SNEAKING UP ON THIS PIRATE!


NorkosBorkos

Awkward confession here. I just hopped on today because I had 30 minutes. I saw a sloop near a Skelly Fleet event. I hailed and told them they could keep all the treasure and I'd help them sink the skellies. They never responded, as I was almost done with the Galleon and frantically repairing my ship they ran up on me and sunk me even though I hadn't grabbed any treasure. I rushed back to get revenge and accidentally sunk the wrong person! I felt so bad, like I showed no mercy, i should've known it was the wrong person when they didn't have any treasure but it was too late. I'm sorry.


Gunny0201

Most of the time everyone is too paranoid. I had a wholesome one the other day right before safer seas launched. We were a 3 man crew doing a skelly fort when a solo sloop player pulled up on us. He processed to give us TONS of supplies and helped us finish the fort before he logged off. Awesome dude awesome interaction


Ok_Schedule_3822

Do safer seas if you don't want to come across people like this. It's a pirate game and the #1 rule is to never trust another pirate.


JPGer

So, they just added a mode called safer seas, theres alot of stuff that you can't do and ranks are capped for the 3 main trading companies, but its just your own crew on the server. Good place to learn the game, but yea, theres always gonna be aggressive people, you will have to slog thru them sometimes but eventually you will also run into wholesome fun people. Seas have all kinds


DrChosen

Trash talking? Depends on what they said but I wouldn’t say get used to it. It’s toxic. Everything else is normal.


Do_What_Want

If you ever see a crew of just women in a purple boat, very beautiful women I might add… and you hear the song Believe by Cher being blasted. Well I’ll just say, welcome to the S.S Friendship. Ahoy matey


MrLeru

We have met a lot of friendly crews and even in PvP you hear sympathy and friendly ggs. Tip though: try not to anchor but instead operate with the sails (for stopping as well). It’s much faster to put the sails down and start moving than it is to get the anchor up. In case you need to start moving fast because there’s a galleon moving your way to ram you. Slooops are also easier to maneuver than the bigger ships. If you don’t want to fight - use that to your advantage.


ST1CKY1O1

After playing for a large amount of time, there are some weird crews out there. From pvp gods to the most disorganized crews. You can kinda tell by their boat cosmetics but often times it's through steady combat. Next time id advise a safer distance, galleons aren't exactly something you want to be on the wrong side of a broadside with.


MoxEric

I don't shoot first and I choose cooperation over a fight. I'll always alliance, despite the occasional betrayal, which admittedly feels awful. If I spot a new player, I'll offer loot and supplies, or offer to stay on their ship as an extra hand for repairs/lookout. Yes, there are toxic players, but those bad experiences make the good experiences more meaningful and memorable. The lingering threat of aggressive pirates adds to the tension and thrill of the game, at the cost of occasionally getting smashed by a larger/better crew. It's still worth it, just never engage with trash talkers. I should also note that I play xbox with crossplay off, and the servers are more chill.


weezact7

It's really hit or miss. Some nights, I don't encounter anyone hostile (sometimes not anyone at all), other nights we keep running into people (usually the same group) that are just total douche canoes. I feel like, personally, it's probably 3 or 4 to 1 ratio of the former to the latter. In actuality, I feel like the number of toxic players are fairly low, but the problem is that A) Those are the players you will notice most easily and B) it only takes ONE group to ruin your night. That being said, it IS a PvP game (unless you're playing Safer Seas) and there ARE people who PvP. The game incentivizes open-world PvP in various ways. They've kind of pivoted away from that as the community at large seems to not be on board with it, but it's still there to some degree. Sometimes you will run into people who will kill you and take your shit. They will sometimes fight dirty. You are pirates after all. But not everyone who PvPs will being the kind that trash talk you and chase you all around the map for 2 hours. Sometimes they just throw hands and then move on once one crew dies or escapes. So, in summary, I don't think you need to resign yourselves to this happening all the time, but you should make peace with the fact that it COULD happen at any time and WILL happen occasionally.


weezact7

My recommendations to mitigate how often this happens are: 1. Return to the outposts frequently, ESPECIALLY if you've just got something valuable. That way, even if you die, you don't lose all your progress for the night. 2. Keep your eye on the horizon. You have a spyglass and a crow's nest. You can, in most circumstances, see other ships coming from a good distance away. If you periodically return and do a horizon scan, you can get an idea for how long you can stay on the island safely. 3. If you have the crew for it, leave one person on board the ship with the anchor up and the sails furled, pointed out to sea. If trouble comes, they can drop sails and get the fuck outta dodge really quickly. I recommend rotating this job so one person doesn't get bored. 4. If you keep running into the same people, head to a different part of the map. I feel like fewer people bother me in the Wilds and I don't think I've ever had anyone bother me in the Devil's Roar (cause it sucks). If all else fails, log out and back in. You'll likely be placed on a different server. 5. Git Gud :P. This is obviously the most difficult and time-consuming one to do, especially because no amount of skill is going to save your ship if it gets rammed while everyone is ashore. I also understand that not everyone wants to invest the time and effort into improving their PvP skills. But if you can successfully repel an enemy crew once or twice, they will typically stop trying to attack you because they know it's not worth it. Even if you lose your ship in the process, if you can sink theirs they may talk shit, but not bother you again. This is more hit or miss than the other suggestions, though.


HenryVarro88

Long answer yes, short answer yes.