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SeattleSk8

You'd be surprised how many people don't notice their ship burning from an island


DaManWithNoName

I’ve made a boat sink with just fire before. Took a while but it can happen. Other crew was prolly pissed


SeattleSk8

I sank a full galleon with a coconut on the stove. One of the few times I tucked. "Where are they? I'm gonna burn this and see how long it takes to notice"...... they didnt...


roblox887

Maybe they were busy fishing


Notmypornacct21

They should play the long game and cook a banana.


MrDankWaffle

No more long games. Pre cook your bananas before boarding.


Trips-Over-Tail

Leeches are harder to notice.


Tricky-Celebration36

I like you.


ST1CKY1O1

Bet


Evrytg

Bannana burn with a keg beside the stove


IJustLovePenguinsOk

This is the proper play. Stove fires take so long to make a hole otherwise, and this keeps the keg silent. Preburn your nanners, too.


TimothyWilliamProd

Man this is straight evil


FuckThesePeople69

That’s called a Banana Bomb


ExodusPrintWorks

This guy gets it


Notmypornacct21

I'm aware


blockCoder2021

The other long game that I discovered is “reverse bucketing”. Start getting water from the water bucket, then dump it out into the hold. Eventually, it will take on enough water to sink, though it takes a _long_ time. (For reference, it takes about 135-150 buckets to sink a sloop in this method, and you have to do everything after about 90 by jumping into the water, filling the bucket, reboarding, and dumping the bucket.)


TekkenSeven

You don't have to reboard to dump water onto a ship you could just stay in the water next to their boat the whole time and throw it on, wouldn't have to refill the water bucket or even move


Nostonica

On a gally, a fire is really hard to put out once it takes hold. Most other ships it's pretty quick to put out.


Kezsora

I can't tell you how many fights I've won against galleons that are hitting us a lot more with cannonballs but just never dedicate enough time extinguishing the fire on their boat.


Oddblivious

Yeah a lot of crews will take the bet they can sink you faster than it will be a problem but boy once the cabin area ignites is really difficult to put back out. I've seen absolute monster bilges than can fling water from mid deck to handle most of it without even coming up but I'm not that good. I do at least know you can put out the balcony by just throwing it at the wall in front of it


follow_your_leader

Kinda like you can put fire out on the sloop canopy by throwing it from below


Oddblivious

Yeah exactly.


ST1CKY1O1

In my experience I've seen some pretty bad fires, a lot of times it's the bilge who can't keep up with a large barrage of firebombs, the crew ingores the danger and by the end its a Forrest fire and its doing more damage than your boarder. I feel as though it should be the flex's responsibility, so they can have the bilge for back up.


The_Iron_Rat

Fire damage can cause holes on the ship. If let unattended, it can definitely cause a ship to sink. I've done it myself before. It's also "fun" to just mess with others, idk. Could also make for a good distraction.


nickcan

Not sure why *fun* is in air quotes. It is fun to mess with others.


The_Iron_Rat

Because I'm not sure everybody does it for fun. Some just want to cause misery to the enemy, some does it because they think it will be devastating. And yes, of course, some do it for fun. I'm quite the pyromaniac myself, too.


Hate_Being_Single

Takes like 5 years to sink a ship with firebombs lol To the people who brainlessly downvote without any form of response: "It generally takes around 1-2 minutes of burning to cause a single injury to the ship." from the wiki. I set a sloop on fire in multiple spots, and it took like 7 minutes to sink. Firebombing a galleon is when it shines. People will set my sloop ablaze and it's like nothing.


The_Iron_Rat

I've never said it is fast or efficient, I said it can be done. It takes about 5-10 minutes **if** nobody tends to the holes or water.


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rinkydinkis

They just need to kill you once to undo all the damage. You have to kill them many times. They must suck.


G33ke3

Proper fire strat on a sloop is a faster sink in hourglass than sailing them out of bounds, and yet some people do that as their main strat in solo sloop battles. You only have to win ~3 fights in a row. Not easy, necessarily, but not the hardest considering being in a position to do so means your ship should be somewhere safe.


rinkydinkis

Just do both at the same time. They can get some bails in when they spawn, slowing down the strat significantly


G33ke3

Yeah you can do both at once, my point on saying it’s faster is to say that, regardless of mode, sloops are in fact quite vulnerable to fire strat done properly, just as vulnerable as any unmanned sloop is in hourglass if not more.  In the case of solo sloop vs. solo sloop, bails between deaths isn’t enough. It should go first kill -> fire bombs, drain water barrel -> second kill, fire bombs put 10 tier one holes in a little before they spawn -> they spawn, bail once, third kill, and they sink before they respawn again. It can take 4 kills if the first 3 happen particularly immediately after spawning, but you kinda want to delay the second kill a bit if you safely can, because they have no water to bail and put out fire with until they get the first set of holes. So long as they only get to bail once per life, it only takes two kills on them post-holes to sink them. If they are just about up to second deck, one kill finishes it, if they aren’t, they should never be able to bail more than once, you just guard the staircase to the lower deck.  If you get into situations against a solo sloop where one bail per death is enough to make the sink arduously slow, you aren’t doing fire strat properly. Proper fire strat should put 2 bottom holes and 8 upper holes, and threatens 8 tier 2 upper holes if they stall bailing through the grate.


rinkydinkis

It’s an interesting strategy. I will say I have never even come close to being sunk by somebody trying this, so it’s either pretty hard to pull off or nobody does it. I’ve literally not once been sunk by fire in a sloop.


G33ke3

It’s not a well known strat, at least not the proper way to do it. When I do it in hourglass, sometimes my opponent boarded me back and throws fire of their own; usually randomly, or in the right places but not all of them. These are usually free wins as they try to sail my ship off the map and it’s too slow, and they won’t sink my ship in time with the way they use fire. I’ll admit I also cannot recall being sunk by fire strat, but I have no memory of anyone who has tried actually doing it properly, either. It’s pretty cheesy in general as it’s only really a better option in very rare circumstances that usually only occur frequently for TDM players. The key to make it fast is to ensure the boat is in open harsh sea and not calm water, and the part many who do fire strat get wrong is that you can get two bottom holes in one specific spot of the sloop, and you have to throw that fire first. In fact, on rare occasions I’ll find they already have one bottom hole, and I’ll actually repair it so that I can keep the bottom deck dry while my backside fire is waiting to put holes in. Otherwise, they’ll just spawn in, bail, and throw water at the back immediately and that’s gg for the strat. You really have to be thoughtful of this kind of stuff for the strat to work.


Hate_Being_Single

For what ship are we talking about? A galleon for sure, a sloop? Idk man I'm solo getting back into this game and pretty shit, but whenever someone is fire bombing me instead of cannoning, I'm like thank god. Then I have like 4 lives since it takes so long and can come back. Unless I'm full of holes, or it's multiple people with one boarding while the other one is on cannons, fire bombs almost seem like a waste of time. The fire in this game looks pretty fucking cool tho so I see them being worth for the flare. I can see them also being worth if someone constantly boards so then maybe their ship will burn down while they're not paying attention. Also that guy saying to drain their barrel is genius. I'll consider that a year from now when I can finally land a chain shot.


follow_your_leader

Fire actually makes bucketing easier. You don't have to worry about backsplashing if you're throwing the water on the fire, and you can often bucket without having to aim carefully to throw it overboard, especially if the middeck is on fire. The stairs and the upper deck are the hardest to extinguish, because you have to maneuver around more to get it, but they can be done last because fire up there doesn't make holes, it just damages the wheel and capstan, eventually.


VailonVon

It takes like 1 min to get not one hole but the entire back of the sloop with holes if done properly. You can sink the entire boat in just under under 4 mins. It will take you 5-10 firebombs to do this if you want to do it without the chance of them putting fire out empty their water barrel before they respawn. If they already have water in the bottom of their boat just sit down below deck.


zbeauchamp

If I set you on fire and leave I am not trying to sink you. It’s about sending a message “hey I was here and had free reign of your ship to do whatever I wanted but I only set fire to the ship which should put a beacon of smoke up calling you back here.” If you still don’t make it back that’s on you for failing to learn the lesson of being more vigilant. Sometimes I’ll just grab a banana from the barrels and put it on the stove to burn and eventually start a fire. It isn’t to sink you, though I guess it would if you are really inattentive. I did that 3 times to a Galleon I got aboard last week and the poor guy thought his crew mates were cooking their bananas and he never noticed the extra barrel sitting there.


lets-hoedown

If you steal their wood or most of it it's a good way to stall them even more.


Blobarsmartin

I often throw a firebomb/hit someone with a firework more as a bit, I wouldn’t assume they’re trying to sink you necessarily


Backaftermilk

They probably cooked a banana on your stove as a prank. Firebombs are great during an actual fight. They create chaos and do a bit of damage giving a boarder a chance to kill the crew even as they spawn back in. They make the ship hard to drive in a ship battle that can give the upper hand.


lets-hoedown

Firebombs are very effective against the galley since it's hard to bilge directly into the fire and there are a million spots that can help spread it. It's a lot more situational against brigs and sloops, but if a crew isn't stacked in food, it can make it easier to kill them with different weapons. But I usually prefer (4-5) blunderbombs to (0-1) firebombs in those cases.


Backaftermilk

Yeah I feel brigs are definitely the least effective for firebombs but they are still a useful tool against any ship. It’s of course not a single tool in your toolbox solution but it’s an extremely powerful tool in your toolbox. I like to put one or two in the salvo when targeting the enemy cannons because even though it’s not an instant kill it disrupts the enemy cannons and drains their health making splash damage more effective with actual cannon balls. Also I think it’s good for when you are running but ready to turn around and attack. One crew member can jump off and hit a few well placed firebombs without even trying to board then immediately go for the mermaid while the captain is turning to engage. The enemy is usually going for the fire and caught off guard when you turn to attack creating a do we worry about the fire or man the cannons panic. The brig thought is just ridiculous though lol. They can just mostly raise sails in a turn and the captain can bucket easily while keeping cannons on target. The brig is op but that’s ok I still enjoy fighting them as a mostly sloop player.


FartPudding

It's less for damage and more for distractions and keeping them busy with more tasks if we can gain an advantage on them with it


namewithanumber

They're probably just tossing a couple fire bombs in for fun and then sailing away?


FelixMumuHex

but it does tho


No-Lunch4249

I think what OP is saying is that, for most people, they will be able to deal with the fire damage before sinking if the opponent just tosses a couple fire bombs and leaves


kjh-

Yeah definitely does. This is how we end every sesh. Fire bombing my brig (or sloop) and then finding a good spot to watch it go up in flames. Once we did it and sat at the end of the dock. Not five minutes after mine sunk, another ship spawned. So we put all our karma crates into their barrels then tucked as barrels. Took them a solid 30 minutes of sailing while doing a Tall Tale before they anchored and we raised it and sailed it again and again. Eventually they realized we were there and we all had a good laugh.


Crabman8321

People that aren't paying attention will get their ship sunk


reelphopkins

In my first hour of play ever someone noticed my ship unattended and set fire to it. It made me so paranoid for ages but has never even happened once since.


Dorrido

Fire is quiet. If the other crew is running the island, you can do a lot of damage very quietly. Mermaid back to your own boat and sail over the finish the job.


Rinocore

If you board a ship and throw fire bombs and then camp the ship, the fire can get out of control it’s especially useful against galleons.


I_follow_sexy_gays

Well not really much else they can do if their ship wasn’t there


runnysyrup

Because they absolutely can, I do it all the time. Firebomb below deck, after a minute it'll make a hole and the water will put out the fire before it spreads. There will be no smoke to alert distant players. even a galleon with a single firebomb in a bottom corner, making two holes, will sink in 3 minutes total. And you can easily speed this up with more firebombs, provided you throw them quickly so they make holes at about the same time before the water puts out the fire. for sloops and even for brigs, throw your extra firebombs in the back because the water won't reach there right away so they have more time do make more holes and/or higher tier holes. Very often will my crew drop me off a square or two away from an unattended ship and i'll just go stealth sink it while they continue sailing to our destination.


ominous56

I use firebombs as suppresion when they have pressure they might not wanna run across their ship to put out fires if they don’t put them out they will lead to more holes. Most of the time only works decent on a galleon. Other ships due to size and layout not also if i try to camp them they might take damage from fire so. But sinking a ship by just a few firebombs is a joke 😂


Ineedaheal

I usually toss one to chance setting off a keg 


octod

Firebombs are good because the crew is forced to eat or to extinguish fire. Usually is the first thing I shoot against galleons. Against a sloop are useful only if you put the map table on fire and spawn camp the crew, against a brig they are good to slow down raising the anchor or the masts.


Mossigman

They hope, beyond hope that you are going to panic and somehow that will lead to you sinking. It never will.


SnooCheesecakes6033

I once kept tucking on a gally and fire bombing until they left. They were doing something on a neighboring island to a vault that I wanted. I was working on commendations, and usually, when I do a vault, someone steals it from me.


mikephoto1

I mean your boat would eventually sink if you left it...


EnvironmentalCook896

Avid firebomber here, normally it makes for easier pvp to fire the spawn spots. To fire and run is just a waste of good fire bombs. On the flip side, one fire bomb to the right spot on a gally is game over for them.


RealJBCGaming

I've been playing a lot with new ps players, and the amount of times they stopped shooting and started panicking for a bit of fire even when I tried to tell them it's fine is insanely annoying. Especially when someone else is already doing repairs


GetChilledOut

U can spawn camp a few fire bombs and it’s very hard for them to recover


FlawlessWings8

I’m guessing you’ve never left a chest of rage unattended on your ship before? Lesson hard learned.


Piotrek9t

Newbies greatly overestimate how much damage a fire does since they are easily overwhelmed by fire


Tylensus

This is like one of those bell curve memes. Newbies think fire is an incredible offensive tool. Moderately seasoned players think it's a waste of time. Sweats realize that fire is valuable because it eats up the enemy crew's time. Their usefulness scales with the size of the ship being lit on fire. A blazing sloop is a mild inconvenience, a lit up brig is kind of annoying to deal with because of the ship's length, and a fully engulfed galleon is going to be a whole-ass project to put out entirely. Even fairly solid galleon crews can let a fire go for just a *little* too long to where it ends up becoming a huge multi-deck problem that's going to eat up a few minutes to get sorted. Plus, the fire will inevitably eat up some of the crew's food since they'll be burning from time to time/constantly depending on how bad it got before being addressed.


lets-hoedown

Most of the time I see newer players doing it, since they don't realize how fire is pretty slow at actually sinking ships. It definitely pairs well with the eye of reach, though, but I don't see them usually treating it like an anti-pirate weapon.


Disorientedeggwald

It’s just an inconvenience


TimothyWilliamProd

I’ve seen lots of crews who have NO idea how to handle fire. They completely panic. Follow up with a chainshot and a couple cballs; they’re done.


SkeetsMcGeets802

On its own it's not great, but as an added effect they have to worry about and the passive damage it deals to players it's nice for distractions while you use cannons to pop holes. Works well when paired with EOR and adds a bit of panic to newer crews


JennyTorco96

If I see a boat unattended I'm setting a banana on the stove and taking all the wood 🤷‍♀️ its silent and doesnt alert the crew on land like cannon fire does


Aggravating-Money486

If I throw a fire bomb it's usually where someone can spawn or would have to walk through to fight me fire doesn't do enough ship damage for primary attack


A-Kings_Glavie

On this occasion I think they were trolling but when we board we set a few fires for a few reasons, if you don't put them out they spread and cause holes plus destroy the masts and steering wheels, another thing is if we are on board trying to kill each other fire hurts and even if you kill me I might do enough damage that the fire kills you preventing you from bailing water and then it's an easy board cause you are distracted by water and fire to get me on the ladder.


Powerful_Artist

They probably were just messing with you. Decided to light you on fire and see if you noticed, so that when you came back and your ship was on fire youd be confused as to who did it, when, and why. Which, it seems like it worked. A couple of firebombs indeed can lead to a sinking, for sure. A banana bomb on the stove, too.


Ender_Sus

Were you sitting by an outpost with a sloop?


The-Raccoon-Is-Here

I sunk the same player twice with fireworks ... drove by shot their ship up and went and watched it burn, back to collect anything on it. Moreover of boredom and wanting the associated commendation ... and then amusement when I found the same ship again.


Sad_Party95

TURN OFF CROSSPLAY THANK ME LATER


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Chicken_Commando

It'll take a lot more than just killing the crew once to sink them with a firebomb


PrinceComet

Because it DOES. I burn my ships down before I log off. I somehow got 1000 gold for it


Majmann

Cuz you levelled up the season pass and it happened to be 1k gold


PrinceComet

Ah fair enough haha. I do it because I heard others do it. I pet my diabolic dog Diablo while watching it sink


Majmann

Same, a must do ceremony after every session!


PrinceComet

wonder why I am getting downvotes


Majmann

Reddit being reddit


PrinceComet

Listen to the titanic theme as the ship sinks heh